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(Investors Business Daily)   Obama and Co. have no other choice but to try to convince the country that up is down and red is green. That doesn't mean voters should believe it   (news.investors.com) divider line 70
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2012-09-07 08:11:41 AM
#1: there's a little more to Obama's platform than that, Bush and Clinton tag teamed on the deregulation thing and it contributed significantly to the collapse of the housing bubble and the resulting fallout for banks and the rest of the country
#2: strawman
#3: strawman
#4: funny to hear this from the party that's been actively trying to sabotage Obama(the rest of the country be damned) for the last four years
 
2012-09-07 08:22:51 AM
Yeah.. All lies..

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2012-09-07 08:24:12 AM
Shouldn't IBD be praising Obama and the stock market recovery that has occurred under his watch? Or are they just partisan assholes?
 
2012-09-07 08:27:30 AM
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2012-09-07 08:29:52 AM

clancifer: Shouldn't IBD be praising Obama and the stock market recovery that has occurred under his watch? Or are they just partisan assholes?


They're just partisan assholes. I don't think anyone takes them seriously anymore since they went off the deep end.
 
2012-09-07 08:45:24 AM

clancifer: Shouldn't IBD be praising Obama and the stock market recovery that has occurred under his watch? Or are they just partisan assholes?


The second one. IBD isn't actually about investing.
 
2012-09-07 08:47:38 AM
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2012-09-07 08:54:19 AM
welcome to freeper friday!
 
2012-09-07 08:57:12 AM
...and the GOP is trying to convince us that "trust us, we're from the government" is suddenly going to be OK?

Romney's somewhat nebulous claims all pretty much hinge on promises to bring back the very same policies that nearly gutted our economy. Wall Street not only recovered under this Administration, a lot of companies are reporting record profits. We've seen first hand what these policies do. Drive up deficits and our debt, and leave the tax payers holding the bag for subsidies for companies that don't need them, and eliminate competition from our markets. It's the wrong path, and it is anathema to good economic and domestic policy, yet folks keep championing it, because they have friends who will profit mightily, and the rest hooting are hoping that they'll get a few scraps from the table once they beat the rest of the crowd into submission.

It's bad policy for the country, and it's grasshopper thinking that is antithetical to good Conservative economic doctrine.
 
2012-09-07 09:04:33 AM

hubiestubert: ...and the GOP is trying to convince us that "trust us, we're from the government" is suddenly going to be OK?


"We hate the government as much as you do! So you should elect us! We'll hate it from the inside!"

That argument never made a damn bit of sense.
 
2012-09-07 09:09:04 AM
It's like people forget how much 2006-2008 sucked. (I mean, it's not like the previous couple years were any better)

I mean, I was told that we could just look at the stock market to determine the health of the economy. It goes up, that's good for everyone. Is that not true anymore?
 
2012-09-07 09:10:40 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Approves
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Indeed. You keep your stick on the ice, subby.

/Remember, I'm pulling for ya--we're all in this together
 
2012-09-07 09:15:24 AM
Obama has completely failed to police the financial industry, so we should elect an actual Robber Baron instead.
 
2012-09-07 09:17:59 AM
I recall four years ago that there was nothing wrong with this economy, that it was just liberal spin to win the election. Besides, lots of people were eating out.

Now that the liberals admit the economy is just fine, it's just liberal spin to win the election. Besides, people are eating out.
 
2012-09-07 09:20:34 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Approves
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Problem is, Republicans are neither handy nor handsome.
 
2012-09-07 09:24:56 AM

bulldg4life: I mean, I was told that we could just look at the stock market to determine the health of the economy. It goes up, that's good for everyone. Is that not true anymore?


Do you personally make a profit if the market goes up? I do as I have a 401k and some other investments but how does that translate into consumer behavior? I have no intention of selling any stocks or of tapping into my retirement fund. The market goes up my paper wealth climbs.. I'm micro to the billionaire but the behavior is the same. Market goes up, guy makes 10 million bucks, guy keeps it in the market. For people who work on wall street they can make money regardless of what the market does..

So it seems, though I'm certainly no economist, that markets going up or down has no real relevance to how much I currently have in my pocket. It's just an indicator of how much richer the .0001% are.
 
2012-09-07 09:28:02 AM

xynix: So it seems, though I'm certainly no economist, that markets going up or down has no real relevance to how much I currently have in my pocket. It's just an indicator of how much richer the .0001% are.


The stock market is just the 1% shuffling money between each other for the most part. It has little to do with everyone else.
 
2012-09-07 09:33:14 AM

hubiestubert: ...and the GOP is trying to convince us that "trust us, we're from the government" is suddenly going to be OK?


GOP: "Maybe if we're part of that government, we can steer it in wise directions........Now where's my giant foam cowboy hat and airhorn!!!"


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2012-09-07 09:33:33 AM
As always like to remind people that the IBD "news" web-site, once published an article in which the central argument was that Stephen Hawking wouldn't be alive today if the US would have had socialized health care.

Keep this in mind when you read any of their articles.
 
2012-09-07 10:04:29 AM

mrshowrules: As always like to remind people that the IBD "news" web-site, once published an article in which the central argument was that Stephen Hawking wouldn't be alive today if the US would have had socialized health care.


I think how they put it was "If Hawking had to depend on British Healthcare NHS, he would be dead by now"
 
2012-09-07 10:09:33 AM

vernonFL: mrshowrules: As always like to remind people that the IBD "news" web-site, once published an article in which the central argument was that Stephen Hawking wouldn't be alive today if the US would have had socialized health care.

I think how they put it was "If Hawking had to depend on British Healthcare NHS, he would be dead by now"


That's even worse.

I remember they attempted a retraction saying that what they meant was that American R&D is what develops the drugs that help people like Hawking. Then (no joke) the pharmaceutical company in France who developed Hawking's ALS drugs released a statement.
 
2012-09-07 10:13:45 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-07 10:14:51 AM
Boy, they are really pushing that Community Reinvestment Act line hard.
 
2012-09-07 10:21:51 AM
Once I started taking econ classes, I stopped being able to listen to politicians and pundits on economics. I may be Republican, but this article is shiat.
 
2012-09-07 10:36:28 AM

Lando Lincoln: hubiestubert: ...and the GOP is trying to convince us that "trust us, we're from the government" is suddenly going to be OK?

"We hate the government as much as you do! So you should elect us! We'll hate it from the inside!"

That argument never made a damn bit of sense.


Sure it does. You'd take your car to a mechanic who thinks everyone should be on bicycles, right? There's no way he'd do a bad job at repairs or intentionally sabotage your car so you'd come around to his point of view.
 
2012-09-07 10:37:01 AM

hubiestubert: and the rest hooting are hoping that they'll get a few scraps from the table once they beat the rest of the crowd into submission.


I don't think they're really hoping for the scraps. I think they just want to stick it to them stupid hippies and minorities.
 
2012-09-07 10:38:42 AM

xynix: Yeah.. All lies..


Amazing how your chart still calls them the bush tax cuts when they expired 2 years ago. Also amazing how liberals continue to equate spending with revenue generation.
 
2012-09-07 10:38:58 AM

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2012-09-07 10:39:24 AM

xsive: welcome to freeper friday!


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2012-09-07 10:40:19 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Approves
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If his wife is watcthing, he'll be coming right home after the meeting convention.
 
2012-09-07 10:40:22 AM
Where did this site come from, anyway? It's a relatively new entry into the regular derptation on Fark.

And are there really people taking investment advice from a site which has, as it's current "most popular" article, "Why President Obama Hates America"?

I'd rather take my chances with tarot cards. Hell, I'd rather take my chances with Jim Cramer.
 
2012-09-07 10:41:39 AM
The stock market has recovered from the crash and is at record highs, why is Investors Business Daily trying to piss in the presidents breakfast cereal?
 
2012-09-07 10:41:54 AM

Lando Lincoln: hubiestubert: ...and the GOP is trying to convince us that "trust us, we're from the government" is suddenly going to be OK?

"We hate the government as much as you do! So you should elect us! We'll hate it from the inside!"

That argument never made a damn bit of sense.


Yes. Proposing the feds only spend the historical average 20% of GDP means they hate government... maybe, just maybe not everyone agrees the feds should spend 25%, the highest since ww2
 
2012-09-07 10:44:27 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: The stock market has recovered from the crash and is at record highs, why is Investors Business Daily trying to piss in the presidents breakfast cereal?


I'm not sure why people are willing to go and say "record highs" when the DOW is still easily 1000 points off its high.
 
2012-09-07 10:44:37 AM

clancifer: Shouldn't IBD be praising Obama and the stock market recovery that has occurred under his watch? Or are they just partisan assholes?


I don't read it, but maybe it's like the Wall Street Journal where they have normal people reporting actual events and ridiculous cartoon right-wing freaks writing opinions.
 
2012-09-07 10:45:24 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Where did this site come from, anyway? It's a relatively new entry into the regular derptation on Fark.

Investors Business Daily has been around for decades. It's always had a conservative bent since it's primarily a publication for the investor class but I don't recall seeing this level of blatant partisan politics before. Maybe Murdoch bought them.
 
2012-09-07 10:49:03 AM

Ricardo Klement: Monkeyhouse Zendo: The stock market has recovered from the crash and is at record highs, why is Investors Business Daily trying to piss in the presidents breakfast cereal?

I'm not sure why people are willing to go and say "record highs" when the DOW is still easily 1000 points off its high.


It's effectively doubled from its low in 2009 but if you want to split hairs, yes it hasn't quite reached it's peak during the housing and derivatives bubble.
 
2012-09-07 10:50:13 AM

MyRandomName: xynix: Yeah.. All lies..

Amazing how your chart still calls them the bush tax cuts when they expired 2 years ago. Also amazing how liberals continue to equate spending with revenue generation.


Amazing how they still call Social Security a creation of FDR and the New Deal Democrats when they've been dead for years.
 
2012-09-07 10:51:52 AM

Mugato: xynix: So it seems, though I'm certainly no economist, that markets going up or down has no real relevance to how much I currently have in my pocket. It's just an indicator of how much richer the .0001% are.

The stock market is just the 1% shuffling money between each other for the most part. It has little to do with everyone else.


So you're saying it doesn't move down through the economy in some sort of trickle.
 
2012-09-07 10:51:57 AM
IBD has no choice but to try to convince the world that Stephen Hawking is dead and has been dead for decades.

STFU, assholes. Never do anything ever again.
 
2012-09-07 10:54:36 AM

MyRandomName: Yes. Proposing the feds only spend the historical average 20% of GDP means they hate government... maybe, just maybe not everyone agrees the feds should spend 25%, the highest since ww2


You really need me to drag out quotes showing how Republicans hate the government? Really?
 
2012-09-07 10:55:48 AM

Vodka Zombie: clancifer: Shouldn't IBD be praising Obama and the stock market recovery that has occurred under his watch? Or are they just partisan assholes?

They're just partisan assholes. I don't think anyone takes them seriously anymore since they went off the deep end.


I know some Old White Guys who follow it religiously.

of course, when I engage them (as a fellow White Guy) they always admit in the end, they're just made that White Guys don't get to rule everything.
 
2012-09-07 10:58:01 AM

Mugato: xynix: So it seems, though I'm certainly no economist, that markets going up or down has no real relevance to how much I currently have in my pocket. It's just an indicator of how much richer the .0001% are.

The stock market is just the 1% shuffling money between each other for the most part. It has little to do with everyone else.


You're absolutely wrong in that respect. My company recently had a round of layoffs motivated by the need to meet the PE ratio dictated to us by Wall St and boost stock price. We were profitable but apparently not profitable enough for some people's taste.
 
2012-09-07 10:59:46 AM
Article claims Bush Tax Cuts were responsible for 8.1 million jobs created before the crash.

upload.wikimedia.org

They are counting from the very lowest point in 2003 to the highest point in 2008. Though amazingly the slop of that line looks pretty much like the slope of all of the other job growth lines since the depression. The others didn't require tax cuts.
 
2012-09-07 10:59:47 AM

thurstonxhowell: IBD has no choice but to try to convince the world that Stephen Hawking is dead and has been dead for decades.

STFU, assholes. Never do anything ever again.


wait, are we still talking about irritable bowel disease?
 
2012-09-07 11:08:59 AM
After they repeated the CRA big lie I stopped reading. Was the rest just an exercise in irony?
 
2012-09-07 11:10:07 AM

clancifer: Shouldn't IBD be praising Obama and the stock market recovery that has occurred under his watch? Or are they just partisan assholes?


If they did that, they would have to admit trickle down doesn't trickle shiat.
 
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2012-09-07 11:14:03 AM

MyRandomName: Lando Lincoln: hubiestubert: ...and the GOP is trying to convince us that "trust us, we're from the government" is suddenly going to be OK?

"We hate the government as much as you do! So you should elect us! We'll hate it from the inside!"

That argument never made a damn bit of sense.

Yes. Proposing the feds only spend the historical average 20% of GDP means they hate government... maybe, just maybe not everyone agrees the feds should spend 25%, the highest since ww2


But they had better not cut spending on programs you support, amirite? :D

/oh, who am I kidding
 
2012-09-07 11:15:08 AM

MyRandomName: xsive: welcome to freeper friday!

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2012-09-07 11:23:10 AM

MyRandomName: Yes. Proposing the feds only spend the historical average 20% of GDP means they hate government... maybe, just maybe not everyone agrees the feds should spend 25%, the highest since ww2


And 4% of GDP better be on the military whether it needs it or not. If one dollar of every five spent by the federal government isn't for the military they we, as a nation, will be immediately overrun by... somebody... who wants to do... bad things...
 
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