If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Jezebel)   Subby would be bothered by this article, but his house in Skyrim won't build itself   (jezebel.com) divider line 234
    More: Asinine, manliness, shooter game, moral superiority  
•       •       •

7322 clicks; posted to Geek » on 07 Sep 2012 at 9:45 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



234 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-09-07 12:20:32 AM
The trend of more online discussions requiring facebook logins is troubling, not only because it assumes everyone has or wants an account with a company whose entire business model is data mining for purposes of advertisement, but also because it lends credence to those like the author of TFA who think that online anonymity is a bad thing.

One of the great things about the internet is that it has brought about a mostly anonymous means of discussion on a world of topics. Yes, there are those that abuse the privilege, but in general the signal to noise ratio is pretty decent. Will people be more careful about what they say if they have to tie it to their real names and identities? Probably. Does being more careful mean they will be more truthful or honest about their opinions? Not necessarily.

Yes, lots of ugly things are said online, but people have many ugly thoughts. It's good to get it out into the open and allow everyone from the college professor to the high school drop out to share their view and their opinion. Anonymity on the internet hasn't made anyone more racist, misogynistic, or violent, it's just allowed those who have those views to express them without fear of repercussion in their real lives. Let people vent, and take it for what it is - the spewing of what they were already thinking. Knowing what is going through the heads of the racist, the violent, and the misogynistic is preferable to having to guess while they put on a polite facade so that no one confronts them in real life. Open discussion without repercussion allows for the possibility of these views to be addressed and confronted with logic and ideas instead of ostracism and physical violence. You can't fix anything until you know what the real problem is, and trying to censor the conversation simply hides the problem, it doesn't solve it.
 
2012-09-07 06:34:39 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The trend of more online discussions requiring facebook logins is troubling, not only because it assumes everyone has or wants an account with a company whose entire business model is data mining for purposes of advertisement, but also because it lends credence to those like the author of TFA who think that online anonymity is a bad thing.

One of the great things about the internet is that it has brought about a mostly anonymous means of discussion on a world of topics. Yes, there are those that abuse the privilege, but in general the signal to noise ratio is pretty decent. Will people be more careful about what they say if they have to tie it to their real names and identities? Probably. Does being more careful mean they will be more truthful or honest about their opinions? Not necessarily.

Yes, lots of ugly things are said online, but people have many ugly thoughts. It's good to get it out into the open and allow everyone from the college professor to the high school drop out to share their view and their opinion. Anonymity on the internet hasn't made anyone more racist, misogynistic, or violent, it's just allowed those who have those views to express them without fear of repercussion in their real lives. Let people vent, and take it for what it is - the spewing of what they were already thinking. Knowing what is going through the heads of the racist, the violent, and the misogynistic is preferable to having to guess while they put on a polite facade so that no one confronts them in real life. Open discussion without repercussion allows for the possibility of these views to be addressed and confronted with logic and ideas instead of ostracism and physical violence. You can't fix anything until you know what the real problem is, and trying to censor the conversation simply hides the problem, it doesn't solve it.


Yes. . And no.

I think it's important for websites to have a safety mode for those that do want filters. I also agree with you in that expression of self is best done while anonymous in many cases.

I almost entirely agree with the author with respect to online gaming. As a casual player (and a woman) - it's nearly impossible for me to play online with other users. I don't have 23 hours a day to devote to deveoping head shots yet I pay for a service and have earned my right to participate.

So, again, there ought to be an adult mode in which adults are free to enjoy the company of other casual gamers.

I've stopped paying for all online game services because it's simply a poor value for adult entertainment.
 
2012-09-07 06:38:17 AM
Oh, for heaven's sake.
 
2012-09-07 08:39:32 AM
This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.
 
2012-09-07 08:42:18 AM

Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.


"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."
 
2012-09-07 08:48:03 AM
If you freak out when a girl or a woman beats you in a game, you're not a man, you're a nine-year-old boy. A man doesn't need to beat a woman to know he's a man. A man is strong enough to take defeat in a fair game from anybody and move on.

Doesn't happen. Challengers accepted. (Uniwars)
 
2012-09-07 08:50:40 AM

Ricardo Klement: Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.

"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."


You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.
 
2012-09-07 08:57:15 AM
If you want to have some private little club for males only -- like keeping women out of your favorite shooter games -- you're not a man, you're an insecure little boy. A grown-up man has no problem being in the company of women. He knows he's a man.

I personally don't have a problem playing games with women, but whenever some female comes on and uses a mic, inevitably some loser (other than me) tries to talk her up and focuses on hitting on the girl instead of playing the damn game. And then if I say, "hey, let's play the damn game instead of trying to make this a first date" the loser gets all huffy and insufferable, like I'm actually cock-blocking him. And it would be GREAT if the female ever said, "yes, I agree - let's play the game instead of the pathetic small talk." But they NEVER say that. I'm assuming it's because they like the attention.
 
2012-09-07 08:59:30 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.

"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."

You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.


What about comments about how hot they sound over the mic?
 
2012-09-07 09:03:29 AM

Cythraul: God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.

"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."

You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.

What about comments about how hot they sound over the mic?


Look, I'm not going to keep belching for you, so stop asking.
 
2012-09-07 09:14:41 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.

"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."

You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.


If the article was merely a call for some civility and respect, I'd not have a problem with it. I suppose this is part of the cost of the game servers being run by the vendors rather than the players. It used to be you could find servers that were well-admined and uch language and abuse wasn't allowed. Didn't like it? Plenty of uncensored servers out there.

In the meantime, this tool comes up with retarded suggestions like removing anonymity and linking to facebook to play.
 
2012-09-07 09:16:29 AM
This was the first Jezebel article I've actually read, and I was surprised... I got the impression it was a blog about "empowering women" and breaking out of gender stereotypes, is this not true? That article was just one big sexist piece of trash.
 
2012-09-07 09:20:17 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.

"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."

You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.


Huh. I like that too. Perhaps I'm a woman.
 
2012-09-07 09:25:18 AM

Ricardo Klement: God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.

"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."

You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.

If the article was merely a call for some civility and respect, I'd not have a problem with it. I suppose this is part of the cost of the game servers being run by the vendors rather than the players. It used to be you could find servers that were well-admined and uch language and abuse wasn't allowed. Didn't like it? Plenty of uncensored servers out there.

In the meantime, this tool comes up with retarded suggestions like removing anonymity and linking to facebook to play.


Well, I completely agree about the anonymity and facebook. I do think that when some little shiat for brains starts throwing around the rape threats etc, every single player, male or female, immediately needs to slap him down. That's not "boys will be boys," that's actually really vile and dreadful and shouldn't be tolerated for a second.

What I'd love to see is a log that records all your comments and plays them back to the account's primary credit card holder, in most cases, that would be mom or dad.
 
2012-09-07 09:27:05 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.

"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."

You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.

If the article was merely a call for some civility and respect, I'd not have a problem with it. I suppose this is part of the cost of the game servers being run by the vendors rather than the players. It used to be you could find servers that were well-admined and uch language and abuse wasn't allowed. Didn't like it? Plenty of uncensored servers out there.

In the meantime, this tool comes up with retarded suggestions like removing anonymity and linking to facebook to play.

Well, I completely agree with you about the anonymity and facebook.


Fixed for clarity.
 
2012-09-07 09:29:42 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: I do think that when some little shiat for brains starts throwing around the rape threats etc, every single player, male or female, immediately needs to slap him down. That's not "boys will be boys," that's actually really vile and dreadful and shouldn't be tolerated for a second.


The purpose of doing that is generally to get a reaction from people. Do you honestly think trolls will stop doing what they are doing if they get the attention of everyone in the server? Most games have the ability to mute other players, just mute them.

Don't feed the trolls.
 
2012-09-07 09:35:54 AM
I like Hearthfire. Yes it's a little cookie-cutter, but finally having a large place to store all my shiat and actually have it organized. And having its own waypoint to fast travel to is great. It did renew my interest in Skyrim for a few more hours (and I realized I never even set foot in Morthal in my second playthrough). I would've liked to....

Ohh we're talking about video game sexism. *Yawn*
 
2012-09-07 09:36:24 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: God Is My Co-Pirate: Ricardo Klement: Cythraul: This article was really long and it's a Friday. Can anyone sum it up for me? Thanks.

"I want to get laid, so I'm posting a bunch of shiat that I think women will like but that would get me beaten up and stuffed in a locker... by geeks."

You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.

If the article was merely a call for some civility and respect, I'd not have a problem with it. I suppose this is part of the cost of the game servers being run by the vendors rather than the players. It used to be you could find servers that were well-admined and uch language and abuse wasn't allowed. Didn't like it? Plenty of uncensored servers out there.

In the meantime, this tool comes up with retarded suggestions like removing anonymity and linking to facebook to play.

Well, I completely agree with you about the anonymity and facebook.

Fixed for clarity.


That might help a little, but the truth is that a significant number of these abusive twatwaffles are adults. One of the mods from waaaaaaaaay back in the old RTCW days I miss being able to install on the server let us filterpwn people, so "i'm going to rape you!" could be turned into "I have a tiny penis and my diaper's wet!" These filters could be created on the fly by a mod and even targetted to a specific player. Few things were as grand as watching people throw shiatfits after their filters kept turning into self-insults with everyone laughing at them.
 
2012-09-07 09:51:30 AM
Is that article about b/tards?
 
2012-09-07 09:52:55 AM
read half the article, decided it's time to stop trusting things that bleed for 5 days and don't die. going back to to playing my sexy lady-khajiit now.
 
2012-09-07 10:03:09 AM
Oh. It's one of those articles where those who don't have the aptitude and acumen to hit the "mute" button or embarrass the trash-talker on the other team talk about the lousy state of online multiplayer, failing to realize this shiat has pretty much been going on since I was playing as a kid. And if you think Call of Duty or League of Legends (the two games with the notorious reputation for this kind of behavior) are actually worth investing huge amounts of time in, you probably deserve to be heckled, anyway.

Bontesla: I don't have 23 hours a day to devote to deveoping head shots yet I pay for a service and have earned my right to participate.


Yeah, it's called a combination of "a half-decent matchmaking system" and "since you think 'time spent playing the game' is directly proportional to 'skill', you already lost".
 
2012-09-07 10:08:20 AM

Bontesla: Yes. . And no.

I think it's important for websites to have a safety mode for those that do want filters. I also agree with you in that expression of self is best done while anonymous in many cases.

I almost entirely agree with the author with respect to online gaming. As a casual player (and a woman) - it's nearly impossible for me to play online with other users. I don't have 23 hours a day to devote to deveoping head shots yet I pay for a service and have earned my right to participate.

So, again, there ought to be an adult mode in which adults are free to enjoy the company of other casual gamers.

I've stopped paying for all online game services because it's simply a poor value for adult entertainment.


That depends on the type of game you play. I like SW TOR. People there tend to behave like adults, most of the time.
 
2012-09-07 10:08:40 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: You know what women like? Not getting rape threats and sandwich jokes when we want to play a goddamn game.


I'm so goddamned tired of hearing about this. I'm not saying it's OK for the idiots to act the way they do but lets have a little perspective here. If women can overcome the real life active violent opposition that they faced during their journey from being essentially property to equal citizens they sure as hell can overcome the prepubescent little shiats online. I personally don't like being called a n----r, f----t, q---r, or anything else either but I stay calm and use the mute button, and I play with my friends.

I play the absolute worst game for trash talk, MW3 on XBL, and I play with my wife and another squad member plays with his wife so out of our team of 6 people we usually have 2 females. Not only do we rarely run into this sort of language and behavior when we do the women can hold their own most of the time. If they can't the morons get muted and we continue to enjoy the evening.
 
2012-09-07 10:08:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsdS1yy4DNo

Something like this would have been better. Best quote. "Work on your cars. No one ever got laid in the back of an iPhone"
 
2012-09-07 10:11:11 AM
Can anyone confirm if this is an actual man who wrote this?

It doesn't read like it was written by a man.
 
2012-09-07 10:12:41 AM
I completely and totally agree with TFA.

There is a growing spotlight on the vast amount of latent and not-so-latent sexism that the Internet is starting to showcase. A woman blogs that she wants to examine gender roles in video games and she gets death threats, rape threats, her webpage vandalized, and a video game designed by some pathetic asswipe where you can beat her up. A woman speaks at a convention over a year ago and says that hitting on a woman in an enclosed space in the dead of night is kind of creepy, and she still gets threats of rape and torture and called every degrading name in the book. Women who go to conventions say there is a concern over sexual harassment that happens there and, again, threats and harassment to such a degree that women feel shut out of a domain of life that has for a long time prided itself on being inclusive and understanding because they, too, have been targets of discrimination and marginalization. Opponents of the message these women are trying to share with us have shrieked at the suggestion that getting CONSENT before making a move ruins the experience, for f*ck's sake! CONSENT! Are you f*cking serious? Every moral and legal code that is worth a goddamn on this planet is founded on the notion of consent and you're crying that having to go through the burden of asking for and waiting for a yes will stop you from getting laid and having a good time?

This. Has. To. Stop!

No mealy-mouthed apologetics. No "boys will be boys" defense. Take a f*cking stand against this and grow the hell up. You are not entitled to abuse - physically, verbally, or emotionally - ANYONE FOR ANY REASON. They say things you disagree with? Fine, discussion and debate should be encouraged. Man the hell up and respond with thoughts, and reason, and logic. Calling a woman a slut who deserves to be raped just because she shares her experiences or shares an idea for a project she wants to do is simply unacceptable and immature to an incredible degree.

And NOT saying anything, not standing up to these bullies sends a strong message to every woman who feels marginalized, who feels that all the various groups that have coalesced more thanks to the Internet (gamers, atheists, nerds, etc.), and they hear it loud and clear. The message you send when you don't speak out is "I don't care. Let them do what they want. Deal with it." That's not a message I can tolerate. I've been on the receiving end of bullying, discrimination, and marginalization, due to being of Hispanic ethnicity, due to being an atheist, due to growing up as a nerd who played video games and read comic books and played Magic: The Gathering and Dungeons & Dragons. I hated every moment of it. I will not sit around idly and watch as others are victimized and stigmatized in the communities I am a part of, the communities I love, because that person happens to be a woman or gay. It's not going to happen anymore.

Guys - we need to deal with it. Not them. Deal with the reality that you are not entitled to get your rocks off on or in whatever woman you please, she has autonomy and the right to turn you down. She has the right to be left alone when she wants to be, and even if she doesn't want to be left alone she has the right to not want to be around you. Deal with rejection like an adult.

Deal with the reality that none of us are perfect and we can all learn to be better people, to be more tolerant or respectful, to be open to dissenting views. Grown ups handle disagreement with grace and civility, not by calling people whores or c*nts or say they should be raped and murdered. Deal with the fact that all of us are inevitably going to be wrong about something and we can learn from people who say things we initially disagree with. And deal with the reality that this is NOT going away. The goal of everyone being treated with the respect and dignity that individuals deserve - whether man or woman, gay or straight, religious or nonreligious - is simply not going to stop until it is achieved. You can either accept it and join in, help us make the country and the world a little better place when we leave it than when we came into it, or you can continue to be on the wrong and losing side of history. There are no other options.
 
2012-09-07 10:13:55 AM

Ryan2065: God Is My Co-Pirate: I do think that when some little shiat for brains starts throwing around the rape threats etc, every single player, male or female, immediately needs to slap him down. That's not "boys will be boys," that's actually really vile and dreadful and shouldn't be tolerated for a second.

The purpose of doing that is generally to get a reaction from people. Do you honestly think trolls will stop doing what they are doing if they get the attention of everyone in the server? Most games have the ability to mute other players, just mute them.

Don't feed the trolls.


I agree. The best way to stop trolls is to take away their ability to find an audience. I think crowdsourced filters could be a good way to accomplish this. I can stop spam and tracking cookies on my computer by downloading a pre-made filter, why not apply that to games? Of course, one person's annoyance is another one's friend, so tie it to a friend or group list. If one or a percentage of your friends muted him, he starts pre-muted, and an auto-matching feature could try to avoid games with them. That way, every new game isn't a fresh slate for griefers and trolls.
 
2012-09-07 10:14:22 AM

Kome: This. Has. To. Stop!


Yes. Your wall of text needs to stop. Nobody is going to read it.
 
2012-09-07 10:16:44 AM

Tiber727: I agree. The best way to stop trolls is to take away their ability to find an audience. I think crowdsourced filters could be a good way to accomplish this. I can stop spam and tracking cookies on my computer by downloading a pre-made filter, why not apply that to games? Of course, one person's annoyance is another one's friend, so tie it to a friend or group list. If one or a percentage of your friends muted him, he starts pre-muted, and an auto-matching feature could try to avoid games with them. That way, every new game isn't a fresh slate for griefers and trolls.


The few multiplayer games I play, all have server admins who would ban anyone for being an asshole to anyone.

If you play with the general public, you're going to be exposed to their ignorant shiat. There is a reason I don't play games that force you to play with the general public.
 
2012-09-07 10:19:23 AM
Your blog sucks and your opinion is an idiot.
 
2012-09-07 10:20:47 AM
As much as the whole whiny trend of "we gotta fix ourselves" annoys me, this article is mostly on point. I have stopped playing Xbox Live stuff with chat enabled simply because it's embarrassing to hear all the 12-year olds and adults who act like 12-year olds. Awkward hitting on the girl? Well, you sound like an idiot and she'll shut you down if she gets annoyed. I can't get too worked up about people who spend a lot of time on video games being awkward around girls. Throwing a shiat-fit when she shoots you down in chat, well, that's gotta stop.

Frankly though, even worse are the southern-fried Pensyltucky rednecks who get on and start frothing at mouth whenever anyone who sounds black gets on chat. I have had to completely leave a game a number of times because of the hate. Even better was the guy throwing around n-bombs with real hate in his voice, and who then proceeded to scream at his young child on the open mic. (You could hear the kid crying in the background.) Then his wife came in and he started in on how much of a useless slut she was and to "keep that godda*mned kid quiet" while he was playing. That actually made me sad enough to quit playing for a few days.
 
2012-09-07 10:21:04 AM
The article goes too far in its denunciation of anonymity as generally useful, but it makes many legitimate points about decent behavior online and excessive tolerance of infantile behavior. But you only really need to enforce one principle, and it's a simple one: don't be a dick. If you're being a dick, you get a warning. Keep being a dick, and you're gone.

I do see considerable appeal in the concept of fining users in pay-to-play systems for bad behavior, but only if there is a system in place to determine the truth of every issue and protects the accused from malicious, unreasonable, or mistaken accusations. Witch-hunt justice must not be an option.
 
2012-09-07 10:23:51 AM

Kome: She has the right to be left alone when she wants to be


Sure she does but if she wants to be left alone maybe the best way to be left alone would be to avoid public gatherings in which the whole purpose of the gathering is being around other people. We have locks on our doors and mute buttons on our voice comms for a reason and any person male of female that's QQing about some aggressive trash talking deserves no sympathy. If they can't figure out how to mute the asshole then they shouldn't be playing the game.

As has already been mentioned all of us decent folks that don't say a word ARE taking a stand because 'standing up for' the woman is first of all sexist as hell. Who are we to presume that she needs our help? The internet is a purely non physical realm. Woman have no disadvantages in terms of ability to defend themselves online, so why should we treat them as if they do? Secondly feeding the trolls isn't going to make them stop.
 
2012-09-07 10:24:55 AM
So this is an article, addressing males, on Jezebel? Does anyone else see the flaw in the plan?
 
2012-09-07 10:24:57 AM
Nothing short of account bans will do anything, and good luck with all that. Companies like revenue.
 
2012-09-07 10:25:55 AM
You can build houses in skyrim?
 
2012-09-07 10:26:48 AM

Warlordtrooper: You can build houses in skyrim?


The hearthfire addon went on sale on the XBL marketplace this week. It's not bad at all for 400 GP.
 
2012-09-07 10:27:03 AM
To follow up on the point fluffy2097 was trying to make: Isn't it funny how this only became a huge problem when companies began taking away the right of players to host their own servers? As I mentioned before, this shiat existed back in the old days, but it culd also be reasonably dealt with in the types of games that attracted this kind of filth. If it was a first-person shooter, you could boot them from the server. If it was a real-time strategy game, you had the ability to ban people from chat rooms and set up your own private games. (Although I don't know when this capability was added into Battle.net, since I only really got into the service around 2002.) Now, shooters pretty much rely on private matchmaking for everything and the only recent real-time strategy game that anyone plays (StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty) uses the new version of the Battle.net service that pretty much strips away any user control from the player. It's just going to be very, very amusing when this sort of behavior gives some whackjob out there enough leverage to say that we need to censor the internet.

Kome: There is a growing spotlight on the vast amount of latent and not-so-latent sexism that the Internet is starting to showcase. A woman blogs that she wants to examine gender roles in video games and she gets death threats, rape threats, her webpage vandalized, and a video game designed by some pathetic asswipe where you can beat her up.


In fairness (and this is not to defend anyone who went after her), as it concerns the topic of video games, Anita Sarkeesian has absolutely no idea what the hell she's talking about, and falls into the same camp as Olivia Munn and Leigh Alexander, in that she makes it harder for people who actually know the topic of video games (male or female) to make in-roads into game criticism.
 
2012-09-07 10:28:53 AM

Egoy3k: Kome: She has the right to be left alone when she wants to be

Sure she does but if she wants to be left alone maybe the best way to be left alone would be to avoid public gatherings in which the whole purpose of the gathering is being around other people. We have locks on our doors and mute buttons on our voice comms for a reason and any person male of female that's QQing about some aggressive trash talking deserves no sympathy. If they can't figure out how to mute the asshole then they shouldn't be playing the game.

As has already been mentioned all of us decent folks that don't say a word ARE taking a stand because 'standing up for' the woman is first of all sexist as hell. Who are we to presume that she needs our help? The internet is a purely non physical realm. Woman have no disadvantages in terms of ability to defend themselves online, so why should we treat them as if they do? Secondly feeding the trolls isn't going to make them stop.


It's a no win situation. If you hold the door open for a woman you're a chauvinist pig, if you don't hold the door open, you're an inconsiderate asshole.
 
2012-09-07 10:29:03 AM

Kome: This. Has. To. Stop!


Wait, so me choosing to mute the microphone and only play in parties or closed-mic channels means I'm passively supporting what those assholes say or do? Fark that noise. And I mean literally Fark. That. Noise.

People need to realize that the world sucks, and the online world (with all it's anonymous glory) is a wretched hive that caters to the undercover assholes. You won't change a 12-year-old's actions by trying to take a stand against what he says. His parents are out of the room so now he gets to pretend to be a badass who can recite the top 100 dirty words on UrbanDictionary.
 
2012-09-07 10:29:50 AM

Warlordtrooper: You can build houses in skyrim?


They just released the "Hearthfire" DLC, and you can indeed build a house. And adopt kids, hire servants, build gardens, all kinds of crap.
 
2012-09-07 10:30:33 AM

Kome: I cumpletely und tutelly egree-a veet TFA.

Zeere-a is a grooeeng sputleeght oon zee fest emuoont ooff letent und nut-su-letent sexeesm thet zee Internet is sterteeng tu shoocese-a. A vumun blugs thet she-a vunts tu ixemeene-a gender rules in feedeu gemes und she-a gets deet threets, repe-a threets, her vebpege-a fundeleezed, und a feedeu geme-a deseegned by sume-a pezeeteec essveepe-a vhere-a yuoo cun beet her up. A vumun speeks et a cunfenshun oofer a yeer egu und seys thet heetting oon a vumun in un inclused spece-a in zee deed ooff neeght is keend ooff creepy, und she-a steell gets threets ooff repe-a und turtoore-a und celled ifery degredeeng neme-a in zee buuk. Vumee vhu gu tu cunfenshuns sey zeere-a is a cuncern oofer sexooel heressment thet heppens zeere-a und, egeeen, threets und heressment tu sooch a degree-a thet vumee feel shoot oooot ooff a dumeeen ooff leeffe-a thet hes fur a lung teeme-a preeded itselff oon beeeng inclooseefe-a und understundeeng becoose-a zeey, tuu, hefe-a beee tergets ooff deescrimineshun und mergeenelizeshun. Ooppunents ooff zee messege-a zeese-a vumee ere-a tryeeng tu shere-a veet us hefe-a shreeeked et zee sooggesshun thet getteeng CONSENT beffure-a mekeeng a mufe-a rooeens zee ixpereeence-a, fur f*ck's seke-a! CONSENT! Ere-a yuoo f*ckeeng sereeuoos? Ifery murel und legel cude-a thet is vurt a guddemn oon thees plunet is fuoonded oon zee nushun ooff cunsent und yuoo're-a cryeeng thet hefeeng tu gu thruoogh zee boordee ooff eskeeng fur und veeeting fur a yes veell stup yuoo frum getteeng leeed und hefeeng a guud teeme-a?

Thees. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Hes. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Tu. Stup!

Nu meely-muoozeed epulugeteecs. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Nu "buys veell be-a buys" deffense-a. Teke-a a f*ckeeng stund egeeenst thees und groo zee hell up. Yuoo ere-a nut inteetled tu eboose-a - physeecelly, ferbelly, oor imushunelly - ENYONE FOR ENY REESON. Zeey sey theengs yuoo deesegree-a veet? Feene-a, deescoossiun und debete-a shuoold be-a incuooreged. Bork bork bork! Mun zee hell up und respund veet thuooghts, und reesun, und lugeec. Celleeng a vumun a sloot vhu deserfes tu be-a reped joost becoose-a she-a sheres her ixpereeences oor sheres un idea fur a pruject she-a vunts tu du is seemply uneccepteble-a und immetoore-a tu un incredeeble-a degree-a.

Und NOT seyeeng unytheeng, nut stundeeng up tu zeese-a boolleees sends a strung messege-a tu ifery vumun vhu feels mergeenelized, vhu feels thet ell zee fereeuoos gruoops thet hefe-a cuelesced mure-a thunks tu zee Internet (gemers, ezeeeests, nerds, itc.), und zeey heer it luood und cleer. Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp! Zee messege-a yuoo send vhee yuoo dun't speek oooot is "I dun't cere-a. Let zeem du vhet zeey vunt. Um de hur de hur de hur. Deel veet it. Um de hur de hur de hur." Thet's nut a messege-a Icoontulerete-a. I'fe-a beee oon zee receeefing ind ooff boollyeeng, deescrimineshun, und mergeenelizeshun, dooe-a tu beeeng ooff Heespunic ithneecity, dooe-a tu beeeng un ezeeeest, dooe-a tu grooeeng up es a nerd vhu pleyed feedeu gemes und reed cumeec buuks und pleyed Megeec: Zee Gezeereeng und Doongeuns & Dreguns. Um gesh dee bork, bork! I heted ifery mument ooff it. Um de hur de hur de hur. I veell nut seet eruoond idly und vetch es oozeers ere-a feectimized und steegmetized in zee cummooneeties I em a pert ooff, zee cummooneeties I lufe-a, becoose-a thet persun heppens tu be-a a vumun oor gey. Bork bork bork! It's nut gueeng tu heppee unymure-a.

Gooys - ve-a need tu deel veet it. Um de hur de hur de hur. Nut zeem. Deel veet zee reeleety thet yuoo ere-a nut inteetled tu get yuoor rucks ooffff oon oor in vhetefer vumun yuoo pleese-a, she-a hes ootunumy und zee reeght tu toorn yuoo doon. Bork bork bork! She-a hes zee reeght tu be-a lefft elune-a vhee she-a vunts tu be-a, und ifee iff she-a duesn't vunt tu be-a lefft elune-a she-a hes zee reeght tu nut vunt tu be-a eruoond yuu. Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp! Deel veet rejecshun leeke-a un edoolt. Um de hur de hur de hur.

Deel veet zee reeleety thet nune-a ooff us ere-a perffect und ve-a cun ell leern tu be-a better peuple-a, tu be-a mure-a tulerunt oor respectffool, tu be-a oopee tu deessenting feeoos. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Groon ups hundle-a deesegreement veet grece-a und ceefility, nut by celleeng peuple-a vhures oor c*nts oor sey zeey shuoold be-a reped und moordered. Bork bork bork! Deel veet zee fect thet ell ooff us ere-a inefeetebly gueeng tu be-a vrung ebuoot sumetheeng und ve-a cun leern frum peuple-a vhu sey theengs ve-a ineetielly deesegree-a veet. Und deel veet zee reeleety thet thees is NOT gueeng evey. Bork bork bork! Zee guel ooff iferyune-a beeeng treeted veet zee respect und deegnity thet indeefidooels deserfe-a - vhezeer mun oor vumun, gey oor streeeght, releegiuoos oor nunreleegiuoos - is seemply nut gueeng tu stup unteel it is echeeefed. Bork bork bork! Yuoo cun ieezeer eccept it und jueen in, help us meke-a zee cuoontry und zee vurld a leettle-a better plece-a vhee ve-a leefe-a it thun vhee ve-a ceme-a intu it, oor yuoo cun coonteenooe-a tu be-a oon zee vrung und luseeng seede-a ooff heestury. Bork bork bork! Zeere-a ere-a nu oozeer oopshuns. Um gesh dee bork, bork!


You sound like you're bad at chess.
 
2012-09-07 10:30:46 AM

Mike_LowELL: To follow up on the point fluffy2097 was trying to make: Isn't it funny how this only became a huge problem when companies began taking away the right of players to host their own servers? As I mentioned before, this shiat existed back in the old days, but it culd also be reasonably dealt with in the types of games that attracted this kind of filth. If it was a first-person shooter, you could boot them from the server. If it was a real-time strategy game, you had the ability to ban people from chat rooms and set up your own private games. (Although I don't know when this capability was added into Battle.net, since I only really got into the service around 2002.) Now, shooters pretty much rely on private matchmaking for everything and the only recent real-time strategy game that anyone plays (StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty) uses the new version of the Battle.net service that pretty much strips away any user control from the player. It's just going to be very, very amusing when this sort of behavior gives some whackjob out there enough leverage to say that we need to censor the internet.


MMO's have GM's that can and do hand out bans in a similar manner. It's the FPS and other games that have servers but no admins keeping an eye on things where the shiat goes unchecked because nobody is provided a way to report it and get people removed.
 
2012-09-07 10:33:10 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: You sound like you're bad at chess.


you look like you didn't read his profile.

/you were just checkmated by him.
 
2012-09-07 10:33:42 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: You sound like you're bad at chess


Is that an ERMAHGERD! translator?!
 
2012-09-07 10:34:05 AM

fluffy2097: Can anyone confirm if this is an actual man who wrote this?

It doesn't read like it was written by a man.


uclassify shows this result
1. female (66.9 %)
2. male (33.1 %)
 
2012-09-07 10:36:40 AM

fluffy2097: Egoy3k: Kome: She has the right to be left alone when she wants to be

Sure she does but if she wants to be left alone maybe the best way to be left alone would be to avoid public gatherings in which the whole purpose of the gathering is being around other people. We have locks on our doors and mute buttons on our voice comms for a reason and any person male of female that's QQing about some aggressive trash talking deserves no sympathy. If they can't figure out how to mute the asshole then they shouldn't be playing the game.

As has already been mentioned all of us decent folks that don't say a word ARE taking a stand because 'standing up for' the woman is first of all sexist as hell. Who are we to presume that she needs our help? The internet is a purely non physical realm. Woman have no disadvantages in terms of ability to defend themselves online, so why should we treat them as if they do? Secondly feeding the trolls isn't going to make them stop.

It's a no win situation. If you hold the door open for a woman you're a chauvinist pig, if you don't hold the door open, you're an inconsiderate asshole.


Even more so on the internet. If I saw someone physically abusing a female I would step in since well you know, upper body strength, aggressiveness, and all that does make men more likely to be physically dominant. In the online world all that matters is mental ability. For games, dexterity and reaction time matter too but these are not areas in which females are at any disadvantage.
 
2012-09-07 10:42:35 AM

Ryan2065: God Is My Co-Pirate: I do think that when some little shiat for brains starts throwing around the rape threats etc, every single player, male or female, immediately needs to slap him down. That's not "boys will be boys," that's actually really vile and dreadful and shouldn't be tolerated for a second.

The purpose of doing that is generally to get a reaction from people. Do you honestly think trolls will stop doing what they are doing if they get the attaention of everyone in the server? Most games have the ability to mute other players, just mute them.

Don't feed the trolls.



LOLOLOLOL it's pure irony how noob God Is My Co-Pirate is about this idea to "slap down the trolls".
 
2012-09-07 10:45:55 AM

AngryPoet: fluffy2097: Can anyone confirm if this is an actual man who wrote this?

It doesn't read like it was written by a man.

uclassify shows this result
1. female (66.9 %)
2. male (33.1 %)


Yeah, that sounds about right. His wife must have been standing over his shoulder, angrily telling him what to write. I did a bit of digging and found the guys facebook page. He is a neckbeard and a game developer.

WE are all the reason he isn't getting laid.
 
2012-09-07 10:46:13 AM
I was bullied when I was growing up (by both boys and girls) and was basically told to just "shut up and deal with it." That shiat doesn't work and I have some psychological scars because I kept my mouth shut about it and let it continue, rather than try to make it stop. "Shut up and deal with it" is not a healthy approach. When you do that, you're saying that the negative behavior is okay. The perpetrators need to be put in their place and told that their behavior is not okay, and if they continue to do it, they need to be removed from the game.
 
Displayed 50 of 234 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report