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(Hampton Roads)   Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette: "I'll donate *mmmmmmmmmmost* of my book's profits to the Navy SEAL Foundation." Navy SEAL Foundation: "How does, 'STFU, GTFO' hit your ears?"   (hamptonroads.com) divider line 204
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2012-09-07 12:43:21 AM
That swift boat didn't just run aground, it ended up somewhere in Kansas.
 
2012-09-07 01:02:19 AM

Mentat: That swift boat didn't just run aground, it ended up somewhere in Kansas.


Maybe when he gets there he'll be lynched by the Kansas Tards for scoring a victory for Obama.
 
2012-09-07 01:14:02 AM
And this folks, is what it looks like when a Democrat fights back.
 
2012-09-07 01:41:19 AM
HOOOOAAAAH!
 
2012-09-07 03:23:14 AM
Shouldn't he save the money for his defense?
 
2012-09-07 03:23:16 AM

SilentStrider: And this folks, is what it looks like when a Democrat fights back.


Yep, wish we had the Kerry I saw tonight in '04, things would've been different.
 
2012-09-07 03:25:35 AM
We dragged his carcass out of freezer storage and thawed him out long enough to play target practice for the cameras, then we dumped him in the ocean so no one would ever question our story.

The end.
 
2012-09-07 03:27:14 AM
The worse part, of course, was that there was even a demand for this book. He wouldn't have been revealing jack sh*t if people would stop treating soldiers like gods to be worshipped and saying "O TELL US MORE, WISE ONES." Soldiers are humans too, of course they're gonna fall into that fame trap. So frankly in this case I blame the military fanboys/fangirls more.
 
2012-09-07 03:31:49 AM
SEALS and their "foundation" suck donkey balls......that is all anyone needs to know.
 
2012-09-07 03:34:25 AM

batcookie: The worse part, of course, was that there was even a demand for this book. He wouldn't have been revealing jack sh*t if people would stop treating soldiers like gods to be worshipped and saying "O TELL US MORE, WISE ONES." Soldiers are humans too, of course they're gonna fall into that fame trap. So frankly in this case I blame the military fanboys/fangirls more.


No, no ,no special forces are supposed too be disciplined, not giving into impulses, and well granted I've read several good accounts from those type of guys 30+ years after the fact but this guy from what I hear wrote about an op he wasn't even in, just wrong.
 
2012-09-07 03:44:24 AM
Oh, get the fark over it. None of the rapid stream of versions of events we got from the Obama administration on how things went down match the written story from this guy who was there when it happened.

Bin Laden was not "coming right for us!" He wasn't firing a weapon. He wasn't using one of his wives as a human shield.

He was unarmed and poked his head out a door and Boom! Headshot.

Quit trying to demonize this guy because a politician lied.
 
2012-09-07 03:47:50 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: batcookie: The worse part, of course, was that there was even a demand for this book. He wouldn't have been revealing jack sh*t if people would stop treating soldiers like gods to be worshipped and saying "O TELL US MORE, WISE ONES." Soldiers are humans too, of course they're gonna fall into that fame trap. So frankly in this case I blame the military fanboys/fangirls more.

No, no ,no special forces are supposed too be disciplined, not giving into impulses, and well granted I've read several good accounts from those type of guys 30+ years after the fact but this guy from what I hear wrote about an op he wasn't even in, just wrong.


supposed too be

supposed


DING DING DING! :-)

Humans are humans. And if that latter part is true, it's even more hilarious and more the fault of the fanboys who are so desperate to listen to this b/s that it doesn't even have to be true and they're all over it.
 
2012-09-07 03:54:30 AM

batcookie: tinfoil-hat maggie: batcookie: The worse part, of course, was that there was even a demand for this book. He wouldn't have been revealing jack sh*t if people would stop treating soldiers like gods to be worshipped and saying "O TELL US MORE, WISE ONES." Soldiers are humans too, of course they're gonna fall into that fame trap. So frankly in this case I blame the military fanboys/fangirls more.

No, no ,no special forces are supposed too be disciplined, not giving into impulses, and well granted I've read several good accounts from those type of guys 30+ years after the fact but this guy from what I hear wrote about an op he wasn't even in, just wrong.

supposed too be

supposed

DING DING DING! :-)

Humans are humans. And if that latter part is true, it's even more hilarious and more the fault of the fanboys who are so desperate to listen to this b/s that it doesn't even have to be true and they're all over it.


Oh yea, I forgot what multiverse we in, so sorry my bad.
/24 hour not news cycle yeah that's good
 
2012-09-07 03:55:09 AM

BullBearMS: He was unarmed and poked his head out a door and Boom! Headshot.


Better than he deserved.
 
2012-09-07 04:06:40 AM
I am no military fan boy. I respect their service and am the first to recognize their humanity. As an RN, I have taken care of quite a few members of the armed services. I have been lucky enough to attend some meetings and church services with members of the 'Wounded Warriors' group. They are great kids and I'll admit some of their stories about service and loss have made more than a little 'dusty'. I've also met older officers that were likewise wounded in service of this country. We often have completely opposite views on politics or government. These young men and women compose every race and social background. They are as individual as you or me. I've met Catholics, Baptists, Pentecostals, agnostics, and almost every other religious affiliation. I personally, missed the draft and did not have to register for the selective service. You would be a fool to paint these people as anything but a great bunch of bright and hopeful young men and women.

I am an avid fishing, hunting and shooting enthusiast with a large tract of acreage for hunting (duck & deer) and fishing (salt & fresh water) in the Louisiana Atchafalaya Basin. I've got 3 or 4 special ops guys or rangers that I hunt and shoot with that sometimes relay anecdotes and personal stories. Sometimes they are just 'shooting the breeze' and other times I know their conversations to be cathartic. We rarely discuss politics and even rarer if we find we might differ on issues. If you want to dispel any other preconceived ideas or prejudices you might have before getting to know someone, hang out with them and share a beer or wet a line. Any 'peacenik' or hippy ideas I might have thought I had in regards to actual military service persons, went out the window in a pretty damn fast fashion. Are there some dickheads? Damn few, in my personal experiences. I'll climb down off my soapbox. Carry on.

Dahnkster rant mode off.
 
2012-09-07 04:10:41 AM

Kurmudgeon: BullBearMS: He was unarmed and poked his head out a door and Boom! Headshot.

Better than he deserved.


Yea, and if Obama had the stones to admit those are the orders he gave, instead of putting out all that "kill or capture" bullshiat, we wouldn't need to try to demonize one of the people who risked their life to carry out his orders.
 
2012-09-07 04:11:31 AM
How does one manange to pass through SEAL training and be hand-picked to be part of a raid to take down one of the world's most-wanted men, yet be such a drooling retard that flushes away his previous career, AND become a pariah in the US, AND is now on the hit list of every terrorist?

Nice life decision you made there, pinhead!
 
2012-09-07 04:15:42 AM
BullBearMS I am curious. Do you not believe Obama is commander-in-chief? Do you REALLY believe he was not consulted or had anything to do with that mission. I saw many conservatives blame Carter for the failed Iran hostage debacle but few were critical of the military personnel carrying out those same rescue attempts. Hotty Toddy, Gosh almighty, either way.
 
2012-09-07 04:18:29 AM

BullBearMS: Yea, and if Obama had the stones to admit those are the orders he gave, instead of putting out all that "kill or capture" bullshiat, we wouldn't need to try to demonize one of the people who risked their life to carry out his orders.


We're demonizing the shiathead because he wrote, not because of what he wrote. His one job was to STFU and he's too farking stupid to manage that, so now someone is going to have to make him pay for not doing his job. I hope he winds up in jail for a very long time. Again, not because of anything he wrote, I will never read it, but because he wrote at all. There is time for disclosure and that is many years after your confidentiality contracts expire, if they ever do.
 
2012-09-07 04:19:55 AM

BullBearMS:
Yea, and if Obama had the stones to admit those are the orders he gave, instead of putting out all that "kill or capture" bullshiat, we wouldn't need to try to demonize one of the people who risked their life to carry out his orders.



Another option being that it happened exactly as the guy wrote and the administration was covering for the SEALs to keep them from facing a court-martial which of course the SEALs would easily clear but still be a mess to deal with publicly. Maybe the genius author of the book just confessed to killing an unarmed person against possible orders. No one is going to lose sleep over this fact considering who the target was but it's best not to take a dump in the eyes of justice if you can avoid it...
 
2012-09-07 04:20:12 AM

BullBearMS: Kurmudgeon: BullBearMS: He was unarmed and poked his head out a door and Boom! Headshot.

Better than he deserved.

Yea, and if Obama had the stones to admit those are the orders he gave, instead of putting out all that "kill or capture" bullshiat, we wouldn't need to try to demonize one of the people who risked their life to carry out his orders.


He's a guy trying to cash in on the election frenzy and broke his oath to do so. Might want to at *least* acknowledge that to yourself before you get too deep into fellating him.
 
2012-09-07 04:22:30 AM
Wait so this guy really was on the raid? I for some reason thought he was a Navy Seal but not on the raid.
 
2012-09-07 04:24:10 AM

Dahnkster: BullBearMS I am curious. Do you not believe Obama is commander-in-chief? Do you REALLY believe he was not consulted or had anything to do with that mission. I saw many conservatives blame Carter for the failed Iran hostage debacle but few were critical of the military personnel carrying out those same rescue attempts. Hotty Toddy, Gosh almighty, either way.


I'm confused. None of that has anything to do with anything I had to say.

The Obama administration has already put out large number of versions of the events that led to OBL's shooting. In every one of them he was "Coming right for us!" They claimed their orders were to "kill or capture".

This guy has embarrassed those at the top by informing everyone that none of those versions of what went down are even close to the truth. There was no effort made to capture whatsoever.

Let's not demonize one of the people who risked their life to carry out orders because he told the truth about what happened.

Your lies are embarrassing, Mr. President? Well, then don't lie. Have the stones to admit the orders you gave.
 
2012-09-07 04:24:47 AM
www.global-air.com

This story sure has a familiar ring to it. Back in 2005, a U.S. Marine who participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the public version of his capture was fabricated. According to the Marine, Saddam was captured somewhere else the day before, considerably neater and cleaner, and the "spyder hole" thing was setup for the press on the following day. (new window)
 
2012-09-07 04:25:48 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Wait so this guy really was on the raid? I for some reason thought he was a Navy Seal but not on the raid.


He was decorated at the White House by Obama for his part in the raid. That's a pretty good indication he was there.
 
2012-09-07 04:26:23 AM

BullBearMS: He was unarmed and poked his head out of a cave in Tora Bora and boom headshot and that was how George W. Bush got Osama Bin Laden and opened up a new era of diplomacy in the middle east leading to better relations with Afghanistan and Iran and pressuring Saddam Hussein and keeping him in check until the Arab Spring of 2005.

 
2012-09-07 04:28:45 AM
read 'a bridge too far' with photo's hardbound. before I ever knew there was war.

/would be interesting to see a movie, Fahrenheit 451*
//*Sci-ops
 
2012-09-07 04:29:15 AM

BullBearMS: tinfoil-hat maggie: Wait so this guy really was on the raid? I for some reason thought he was a Navy Seal but not on the raid.

He was decorated at the White House by Obama for his part in the raid. That's a pretty good indication he was there.


Links to that? Just curious.
 
2012-09-07 04:31:05 AM

RoyBatty: BullBearMS: He was unarmed and poked his head out of a cave in Tora Bora and boom headshot and that was how George W. Bush got Osama Bin Laden and opened up a new era of diplomacy in the middle east leading to better relations with Afghanistan and Iran and pressuring Saddam Hussein and keeping him in check until the Arab Spring of 2005.


Heh :)
 
2012-09-07 04:40:12 AM
I am really stunned that a Special Forces member would spill his guts publicly about and special ops. Who the hell do you think you are? You have obligation, and one of those obligations is to shut the fark up.

I bet you members of the SAS know how to keep their mouths shut.
 
2012-09-07 04:48:01 AM

Harry_Seldon: I am really stunned that a Special Forces member would spill his guts publicly about and special ops.


express.howstuffworks.com
 
2012-09-07 04:48:25 AM

TV's Vinnie: How does one manange to pass through SEAL training and be hand-picked to be part of a raid to take down one of the world's most-wanted men, yet be such a drooling retard that flushes away his previous career, AND become a pariah in the US, AND is now on the hit list of every terrorist?


Good question. Money seems the most obvious reason. He probably is also motivated partly by politics - wanting to make the current administration look bad. If he doesn't already regret writing the book, I'm sure he will soon. What a way to self-destruct.
 
2012-09-07 04:54:38 AM
Finally. A thread where the neocons and libtards can hate on the armed forces together. Carry on.
 
2012-09-07 05:19:24 AM

Harry_Seldon: I am really stunned that a Special Forces member would spill his guts publicly about and special ops. Who the hell do you think you are? You have obligation, and one of those obligations is to shut the fark up.

I bet you members of the SAS know how to keep their mouths shut.


Well, Eric Haney in his book Inside Delta Force discusses the operation in Iran, but that was many years after.
 
2012-09-07 05:27:53 AM
Yeah, this thread seems to be more about 'my politics are better than your politics' and less about the guy or the book...
 
2012-09-07 05:28:44 AM
I'm still waiting for Osama's long-form death certificate.
 
2012-09-07 05:31:11 AM
They should have just released the book when the movie comes out later this year. Nobody would have probably cared then.
 
2012-09-07 05:41:28 AM
It's not hard to imagine what's going through this guy's thoughts. Call him Ahab. He and his brothers have longed to bag the great whale since 2001. It's been a long wait, and the fishing has been sparse. In fact, most of the trips over the years have been to dangerous shiatholes to catch the latest Muhammed Something-Something #2 whom no one even remembers now. And it's been dangerous as hell. But now, he's bagged the whale, the great whale, the whale that history will remember forever. No other fishing trip will ever compare, and why risk life and limb when you've caught the great Dick? So Ahab fancies himself as this guy who's made close to $200 million since his retirement by telling war stories. Ahab knows the maxim in the book/film world "if you can't be the best, be the first." He's not the guy who fired the headshot, so he figures all he has to do is be first.
 
2012-09-07 05:46:55 AM

BullBearMS: Your lies are embarrassing, Mr. President? Well, then don't lie. Have the stones to admit the orders you gave.


yeah. The fact that he has a kill list is out. I mean he orders drone strikes all the time. What's the difference?

I think the real reason is that he campaigned against things like this as a G W Bush way of thinking, and then he got in office and figured out Bush didn't have the choices Obama thought he did. Thus completing his turn to the darkside.

images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-07 05:56:18 AM

BullBearMS: Kurmudgeon: BullBearMS: He was unarmed and poked his head out a door and Boom! Headshot.

Better than he deserved.

Yea, and if Obama had the stones to admit those are the orders he gave, instead of putting out all that "kill or capture" bullshiat, we wouldn't need to try to demonize one of the people who risked their life to carry out his orders.


Oh, and dumbass, you should see a doctor about that neocon butthurt you're suffering from, it's causing you to hallucinate. "Mark Owen" himself stated that this was a kill or capture mission, as have senior Pentagon brass. LinkAnd are you really surprised that the few details of the raid that emerged, were spun in many hazy/colorful ways by hack media farkwits? And at what point in your alternate universe did imaginary Obama sit in his chair and lie?
 
2012-09-07 06:20:09 AM

planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x200]

This story sure has a familiar ring to it. Back in 2005, a U.S. Marine who participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the public version of his capture was fabricated. According to the Marine, Saddam was captured somewhere else the day before, considerably neater and cleaner, and the "spyder hole" thing was setup for the press on the following day. (new window)


Saddam Hussein was captured by 4th ID and TF 121 - it was virtually entirely an Army operation.
 
2012-09-07 06:24:17 AM

SweetDickens: SEALS and their "foundation" suck donkey balls......that is all anyone needs to know.


I don't see you out there keeping the world safe, or even better, protecting YOUR right to say "donkey balls"
 
2012-09-07 06:41:19 AM

croesius: HOOOOAAAAH!


Wrong branch dumbass...
 
2012-09-07 06:51:17 AM

Cubansaltyballs: Mentat: That swift boat didn't just run aground, it ended up somewhere in Kansas.

Maybe when he gets there he'll be lynched by the Kansas Tards for scoring a victory for Obama.


I love it when a political hack job plan fails to come together.
 
2012-09-07 07:00:09 AM

planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x200]

This story sure has a familiar ring to it. Back in 2005, a U.S. Marine who participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the public version of his capture was fabricated. According to the Marine, Saddam was captured somewhere else the day before, considerably neater and cleaner, and the "spyder hole" thing was setup for the press on the following day. (new window)


Such details of Saddam's capture only matter to idiots. We caught him, made fun of him, tried him and executed him. I see nothing wrong with this even if unimportant details were "sexied" up for the media.

And I hated the Bush administration's general execution of the Afghanistan and Iraq operations, so please do not interpret that as some implied lack of criticism on my part. Just, more like "who cares?".
 
2012-09-07 07:13:29 AM

batcookie: The worse part, of course, was that there was even a demand for this book. He wouldn't have been revealing jack sh*t if people would stop treating soldiers like gods to be worshipped and saying "O TELL US MORE, WISE ONES." Soldiers are humans too, of course they're gonna fall into that fame trap. So frankly in this case I blame the military fanboys/fangirls more.


So being curious about something and wanting to know more means you worship authors of the books they write?

Ok.


Crotchrocket Slim: Such details of Saddam's capture only matter to idiots. We caught him, made fun of him, tried him and executed him. I see nothing wrong with this even if unimportant details were "sexied" up for the media.


Define matter.

Matter enough to change how you think of the US yes.

Matter enough you want to know a little more, no.

/for the record not really interested in this book, but having read a few accounts of "bravo-two-zero" I can understand people who do.
//it they ever release info on the aircraft I will be all over that.
 
2012-09-07 07:25:18 AM
I thought the best soldiers never told their tales.
 
2012-09-07 07:33:01 AM

liam76: batcookie: The worse part, of course, was that there was even a demand for this book. He wouldn't have been revealing jack sh*t if people would stop treating soldiers like gods to be worshipped and saying "O TELL US MORE, WISE ONES." Soldiers are humans too, of course they're gonna fall into that fame trap. So frankly in this case I blame the military fanboys/fangirls more.

So being curious about something and wanting to know more means you worship authors of the books they write?

Ok.


Crotchrocket Slim: Such details of Saddam's capture only matter to idiots. We caught him, made fun of him, tried him and executed him. I see nothing wrong with this even if unimportant details were "sexied" up for the media.

Define matter.

Matter enough to change how you think of the US yes.

Matter enough you want to know a little more, no.

/for the record not really interested in this book, but having read a few accounts of "bravo-two-zero" I can understand people who do.
//it they ever release info on the aircraft I will be all over that.


How about matter in the sense that Saddam was already pretty powerless, not able to be a scourge of the international community, and that in the end he would be just as dead now had they publicized the events of his capture as they "really" happened vs the supposed ginned up version, assuming outlandish claims aren't routinely made on the internet on an hourly basis. If you really expect profit- and ratings- driven media to not be mostly entertainment and little news these days you know nothing about how the industry works.
/government run media has its own warts
 
2012-09-07 07:33:57 AM
Meh. I just got the pdf last night so I'm only a few chapters in to it but so far it seems no worse than a Dicky Boy Marchinko book.
 
2012-09-07 07:34:59 AM
This whole staged fiasco profanes the good name of the SEALS.

I will not have those kidnapping assassins treated in this manner. Those men have to sacrifice honor and humanity to do an important job for the US. How could the bankers force bad paper on the world without their goodly work.
 
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