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2012-09-07 12:00:40 AM
Yeah, this is just overblown reaction to entirely normal college behavior. I mean, really, who has ever been hurt by a little bit of rape? I guess women, maybe, but no one important. Hell, they don't even play a sport. Well, not a real sport.
 
2012-09-07 06:05:44 AM
Well due, it's a university in the north.
 
2012-09-07 06:06:21 AM

digistil: Well due duh, it's a university in the north.


FTFM
 
2012-09-07 06:22:27 AM
Considering the precedent that's been set here, I look forward to hearing everyone's support of crippling the program, fining the university, firing administrators whether they knew about it or not, and cheering on the failure of anything related to Boston University.
 
2012-09-07 06:58:44 AM
Why hasn't Boston University been dismantled and thrown brick by brick into the Atlantic, with a faculty member tied to each of the aforementioned bricks? Why does everyone who disagrees with my previous statement love enabling rape so much?
 
2012-09-07 07:08:15 AM
Shouldn't they be criticizing the whores who are putting out for no other reason other than they are hockey players? If it weren't for the sluts those young lads would spend evenings studying and praying.
 
2012-09-07 07:08:56 AM

Your Zionist Leader: Why hasn't Boston University been dismantled and thrown brick by brick into the Atlantic, with a faculty member tied to each of the aforementioned bricks? Why does everyone who disagrees with my previous statement love enabling rape so much?


Well, they DID toss both guys right away, crippling their chances at a title run, and launched their own "we are part of the problem" investigation, so... yeah... this is a lot different from that last college thing...
 
2012-09-07 07:15:58 AM

Vegan T-Rex: Your Zionist Leader: Why hasn't Boston University been dismantled and thrown brick by brick into the Atlantic, with a faculty member tied to each of the aforementioned bricks? Why does everyone who disagrees with my previous statement love enabling rape so much?

Well, they DID toss both guys right away, crippling their chances at a title run, and launched their own "we are part of the problem" investigation, so... yeah... this is a lot different from that last college thing...


I know, but given how trainwrecky things got talking about the other college and my own loathing of Boston sports, I couldn't resist.
.....I mean VACATE ALL WINS SINCE THE UNIVERSITY WAS FOUNDED!!!
 
2012-09-07 07:17:33 AM

Muta: Shouldn't they be criticizing the whores who are putting out for no other reason other than they are hockey players? If it weren't for the sluts those young lads would spend evenings studying and praying.


You laugh, but puck bunnies and rink rats are a real thing. They're basically the ones who couldn't cut it as groupies for rock bands, and in high school/college they're the ones that the football team passed over, but they do exist.
 
2012-09-07 07:46:37 AM

Your Zionist Leader: Muta: Shouldn't they be criticizing the whores who are putting out for no other reason other than they are hockey players? If it weren't for the sluts those young lads would spend evenings studying and praying.

You laugh, but puck bunnies and rink rats are a real thing. They're basically the ones who couldn't cut it as groupies for rock bands, and in high school/college they're the ones that the football team passed over, but they do exist.


No football at BU anyways... but at most big New England schools hockey is king and gets dibs over football anyways.
 
2012-09-07 07:49:28 AM

Vegan T-Rex: Your Zionist Leader: Muta: Shouldn't they be criticizing the whores who are putting out for no other reason other than they are hockey players? If it weren't for the sluts those young lads would spend evenings studying and praying.

You laugh, but puck bunnies and rink rats are a real thing. They're basically the ones who couldn't cut it as groupies for rock bands, and in high school/college they're the ones that the football team passed over, but they do exist.

No football at BU anyways... but at most big New England schools hockey is king and gets dibs over football anyways.


No football? Well there's the problem then. They need to make a football team and get all the degenerates over there, then we can have a proper outrage thread
 
2012-09-07 08:01:40 AM

Vegan T-Rex: Your Zionist Leader: Muta: Shouldn't they be criticizing the whores who are putting out for no other reason other than they are hockey players? If it weren't for the sluts those young lads would spend evenings studying and praying.

You laugh, but puck bunnies and rink rats are a real thing. They're basically the ones who couldn't cut it as groupies for rock bands, and in high school/college they're the ones that the football team passed over, but they do exist.

No football at BU anyways... but at most big New England schools hockey is king and gets dibs over football anyways.


Damn right. I can attest to that.
 
2012-09-07 08:04:16 AM
Subby: Members of the Boston University hockey team are being slammed for .... *adjusts glasses* .... let me see if I'm reading this right. It appears as if the team members are essentially in the spotlight for being university students

"Criminal charges against former player Max Nicastro, who was accused of rape, were later dropped, and Corey Trivino pleaded guilty to sexual assault."
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2012-09-07 08:08:04 AM

TheOmni: Yeah, this is just overblown reaction to entirely normal college behavior. I mean, really, who has ever been hurt by a little bit of rape? I guess women, maybe, but no one important. Hell, they don't even play a sport. Well, not a real sport.


Was it legitimate rape?
 
2012-09-07 08:09:30 AM
Of course we see the Penn State apologists jump in here, trying to compare a situation where two players, caught getting into trouble are immediately disciplined (as they should have been), to a situation where the football program was protected by covering up a string of rapes that involved an old man anally raping small boys in the football program's own showers.

If anything, this is an example of how you run an athletic program.

The only real problem here is the report's odd reference to "frequent sexual encounters with women absent an emotional relationship or ongoing commitment" - WTF does a one night stand have to do with anything? That isn't rape. It isn't abuse. It's consensual sex between two adults, and apart from living a century ago, hasn't been a social issue... and ...shock! is fairly common on campuses these days.

If anything, they are trying way too hard to find fault with the program by saying the athletes felt they had an elevated social status on campus. I don't think there is anything the program can do to stop that, honestly, because many female students will always be attracted to athletes, particularly when they are part of a successful program.

As long as crimes are not being covered up or encouraged to promote that program, what is the problem? Is isn't like the whole team was involved in serial rapes (only one of the students actually ended up charged with a crime, and he admitted to it and took responsibility) on campus.
 
2012-09-07 08:10:38 AM
I somehow managed to get through college without raping anyone. Crazy, right?
 
2012-09-07 08:29:15 AM

LesserEvil: Of course we see the Penn State apologists jump in here, trying to compare a situation where two players, caught getting into trouble are immediately disciplined (as they should have been), to a situation where the football program was protected by covering up a string of rapes that involved an old man anally raping small boys in the football program's own showers.


Being disgusted by a stampeding crowd with pitchforks is in no way being an apologist.

The issue here is that phrase "culture of athletics." People want to use it to punish everything related to a crime? Great. Then use it universally until everyone figures out how stupid it is.

LesserEvil: I don't think there is anything the program can do to stop that


Then why was the entire university at Penn State punished and not only the individuals who actually committed or abetted the crimes?
 
2012-09-07 08:49:42 AM

kwame: LesserEvil: Of course we see the Penn State apologists jump in here, trying to compare a situation where two players, caught getting into trouble are immediately disciplined (as they should have been), to a situation where the football program was protected by covering up a string of rapes that involved an old man anally raping small boys in the football program's own showers.

Being disgusted by a stampeding crowd with pitchforks is in no way being an apologist.

The issue here is that phrase "culture of athletics." People want to use it to punish everything related to a crime? Great. Then use it universally until everyone figures out how stupid it is.

LesserEvil: I don't think there is anything the program can do to stop that

Then why was the entire university at Penn State punished and not only the individuals who actually committed or abetted the crimes?


You see the world entirely in black and white, eh?

I see a Boston University program that actually RESPONDED CORRECTLY to infractions by people associated with its athletic program, without concern over their reputation.

Penn State wasn't punished because some cheerleaders like sleeping with football team members. They were punished because their program had become more important than bringing a child rapist to justice.

Big difference.

That you can't see the difference is part of the problem.

oh, and....

kwame: Being disgusted by a stampeding crowd with pitchforks is in no way being an apologist.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-07 09:08:42 AM
But the task force found that the team's "elevated social status" on campus led to "frequent sexual encounters with women absent an emotional relationship or ongoing commitment."

WTF am I reading? There was a task force to find that hockey players got some action? and they are pissed about it? me thinks these are some nanny's who just hate that the young-ins are getting some. But isn't Boston supposed to be progressive and liberal towards this stuff?
 
2012-09-07 09:16:36 AM

LesserEvil: That you can't see the difference is part of the problem.


There's a difference in everything. And the fact that you can't understand my issue is the real problem. The "environment" is acknowledged to exist at both institutions. My problem is punishing an entire institution for creating and supporting this "environment" when it is nothing more than a hypocritical and reactionary act.

LesserEvil: I see a Boston University program that actually RESPONDED CORRECTLY to infractions by people associated with its athletic program, without concern over their reputation.


The residence halls and activities that created this "environment" have existed for years. The incidents being reviewed happened nearly a year ago. How is that responding correctly, except to wait until critical mass? You can't possibly believe that they were shocked to find out athletes given preferential treatment abused that opportunity, can you?

FTA: "In response to the findings, BU announced that head hockey coach Jack Parker would be removed from his position as Executive Athletic Director and focus only on his coaching duties. Brown said the change in Parker's status resulted from "possible breaches in NCAA rules" having to do with "the lack of clear reporting lines for the men's ice hockey program."

So the AD has clearly been doing end-arounds in lines of reporting very similar to PSU, and yet he still has his job. Explain how that's a correct response?

LesserEvil: Penn State wasn't punished because some cheerleaders like sleeping with football team members.


Interesting that you call people "Penn State apologists" then turn around and marginalize adult rape.
 
2012-09-07 09:23:48 AM

Your Zionist Leader: Muta: Shouldn't they be criticizing the whores who are putting out for no other reason other than they are hockey players? If it weren't for the sluts those young lads would spend evenings studying and praying.

You laugh, but puck bunnies and rink rats are a real thing. They're basically the ones who couldn't cut it as groupies for rock bands, and in high school/college they're the ones that the football team passed over, but they do exist.


Can't be as bad as pro-wrestling and MMA ring-rats. Dear God, those women are scary. Think of your typical woman mma or pro-wrestling fan. Yeah...
 
2012-09-07 09:27:39 AM
ONce again the Penn STate apologists are in the wrong.


BU mishandled this situation, but they didn't cover it up for 12 years.


There's a difference.

Penn State tried to keep Sandusky issues quiet by denying and trying to hide everything for 12 years, only admitting it when the evidence was overwhelming.

Boston tried to keep sexual assault issues quiet by using internal controls, dismissing the accused players from the team (if not the school completely). They've also given the coach an ultimadum. Let the kids fark up again, and you're gone too.


But please, yell more about how BU and Penn State did the same thing. It only makes it easier to ignore your statements about everything else.
 
2012-09-07 09:29:51 AM

kwame: FTA: "In response to the findings, BU announced that head hockey coach Jack Parker would be removed from his position as Executive Athletic Director and focus only on his coaching duties. Brown said the change in Parker's status resulted from "possible breaches in NCAA rules" having to do with "the lack of clear reporting lines for the men's ice hockey program."


Possible breaches? I think this is legal-speak for ambiguous roles within the athletic program. Not the same as having a discussion to get your buddy our of being charged with child-rape. In fact, in Penn State's case, the reporting line was very explicitly clear, and circumvented by a coach who felt his program was more important than bringing any taint to his beloved football program.

In BU's case, it looks like they just want to make sure their is no ambiguity in the reporting lines, so no confusion would lead to an incidental breach.

As I said, these BU athletes were punished immediately upon their involvement as suspects in criminal cases.

kwame: LesserEvil: Penn State wasn't punished because some cheerleaders like sleeping with football team members.

Interesting that you call people "Penn State apologists" then turn around and marginalize adult rape.


So, a cheerleader who consents to sleeping with a football player is "adult rape" now? I'm confused.

I never defended the actions of the BU hockey player who admitted and is taking responsibility for his actions regarding the rape charge. He should be punished as all offenders should. Many of those offenders are other university students who were not associated with the athletics program... and none of them were shielded from the law by the athletic program. Odd how that works, huh?
 
2012-09-07 09:31:19 AM
kwame: The incidents being reviewed happened nearly a year ago. How is that responding correctly, except to wait until critical mass?

Huh? The players were kicked out immediately upon each of their violations. The internal investigation began as soon as it was clear that it wasn't isolated...

You know what, forget it. You just want to rage... fine. But you should probably wait for the next scandal... it's college sports, someone will screw up way bigger than BU soon. Comparing the way BU is handling things and the way PSU handled things, without even getting into the seriousness of the crimes involved, requires so much mental gymnastics that you're liable to sprain something. Deep breath, calm down, walk away from the keyboard, have a soda, move on...
 
2012-09-07 09:32:12 AM

machoprogrammer: Your Zionist Leader: Muta: Shouldn't they be criticizing the whores who are putting out for no other reason other than they are hockey players? If it weren't for the sluts those young lads would spend evenings studying and praying.

You laugh, but puck bunnies and rink rats are a real thing. They're basically the ones who couldn't cut it as groupies for rock bands, and in high school/college they're the ones that the football team passed over, but they do exist.

Can't be as bad as pro-wrestling and MMA ring-rats. Dear God, those women are scary. Think of your typical woman mma or pro-wrestling fan. Yeah...


They fall in between the two. So if football/basketball gets the 8-10s, hockey would get the 6-7s. MMA and rasslin would get the leftovers.
 
2012-09-07 09:32:22 AM

kwame: Considering the precedent that's been set here, I look forward to hearing everyone's support of crippling the program, fining the university, firing administrators whether they knew about it or not, and cheering on the failure of anything related to Boston University.


I must have missed that part of the article. Was a former BU hockey coach engaging in systematic rape of children in BU , discovered by the administration, and then the administration spent over a decade hiding it?

Because the article I read had the university notice two separate instances of sexual assault, report both to the police immediately for prosecution, and then ordering a very public investigation to see if more was going on and then reporting it to the public.
 
2012-09-07 09:33:44 AM
I can't decide if Subby is a troll, or just retarded.
 
2012-09-07 09:33:59 AM

TheOmni: Yeah, this is just overblown reaction to entirely normal college behavior. I mean, really, who has ever been hurt by a little bit of rape? I guess women, maybe, but no one important. Hell, they don't even play a sport. Well, not a real sport.


If you bothered to read the article you'd know the rapists were actually dealt with (one, in a somewhat shocking turn of events, actually plead guilty in a court of law. I know how terribly sad it is that I'm shocked by this but I know of very few college rapes that even make the criminal justice system...)

HOWEVER, the professors/faculty seem to be upset about frequent (implied consensual) sex "absent an emotional relationship or ongoing commitment". I'm sorry but WHY is that anybody's business? As long as everybody consented what's the freakin' problem?
 
2012-09-07 09:34:40 AM

Theaetetus: Subby: Members of the Boston University hockey team are being slammed for .... *adjusts glasses* .... let me see if I'm reading this right. It appears as if the team members are essentially in the spotlight for being university students

"Criminal charges against former player Max Nicastro, who was accused of rape, were later dropped, and Corey Trivino pleaded guilty to sexual assault."
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 456x297]


Read the rest of the article, please.
 
2012-09-07 09:36:49 AM

Your Zionist Leader: machoprogrammer: Your Zionist Leader: Muta: Shouldn't they be criticizing the whores who are putting out for no other reason other than they are hockey players? If it weren't for the sluts those young lads would spend evenings studying and praying.

You laugh, but puck bunnies and rink rats are a real thing. They're basically the ones who couldn't cut it as groupies for rock bands, and in high school/college they're the ones that the football team passed over, but they do exist.

Can't be as bad as pro-wrestling and MMA ring-rats. Dear God, those women are scary. Think of your typical woman mma or pro-wrestling fan. Yeah...

They fall in between the two. So if football/basketball gets the 8-10s, hockey would get the 6-7s. MMA and rasslin would get the leftovers.


Umm hockey players don't get 6-7's.
 
2012-09-07 09:39:16 AM

kwame: LesserEvil: I don't think there is anything the program can do to stop that

Then why was the entire university at Penn State punished and not only the individuals who actually committed or abetted the crimes?


To stop the next group who are trying to protect their university by covering up horrendous crimes. If we don't make it so that the cover-up is punished more harshly than the fallout from not covering up the crimes, someone is going to do another cover-up in the future and willingly sacrifice themselves for the institution.
 
2012-09-07 09:42:33 AM

YoungLochinvar: TheOmni: Yeah, this is just overblown reaction to entirely normal college behavior. I mean, really, who has ever been hurt by a little bit of rape? I guess women, maybe, but no one important. Hell, they don't even play a sport. Well, not a real sport.

If you bothered to read the article you'd know the rapists were actually dealt with (one, in a somewhat shocking turn of events, actually plead guilty in a court of law. I know how terribly sad it is that I'm shocked by this but I know of very few college rapes that even make the criminal justice system...)

HOWEVER, the professors/faculty seem to be upset about frequent (implied consensual) sex "absent an emotional relationship or ongoing commitment". I'm sorry but WHY is that anybody's business? As long as everybody consented what's the freakin' problem?


While BU probably has a left leaning student body, and has had some very prominent liberal professors, the actual administrative infrastructure of the university is actually shockingly conservative and has been ever since it was founded as a Methodist seminary in Vermont. So this isn't very surprising.

From the early 80's until the last few years, BU actually had very stringent guest policies that made having "over night guests" difficult, especially with someone of the other gender (you needed a sponsor) or short notice (extra paperwork on the spot, IDs turned over, etc.). I hear it has loosened recently, but it is probably still stricter than what you'd expect from a large secular university in Boston.
 
2012-09-07 09:44:53 AM

Vegan T-Rex: YoungLochinvar: TheOmni: Yeah, this is just overblown reaction to entirely normal college behavior. I mean, really, who has ever been hurt by a little bit of rape? I guess women, maybe, but no one important. Hell, they don't even play a sport. Well, not a real sport.

If you bothered to read the article you'd know the rapists were actually dealt with (one, in a somewhat shocking turn of events, actually plead guilty in a court of law. I know how terribly sad it is that I'm shocked by this but I know of very few college rapes that even make the criminal justice system...)

HOWEVER, the professors/faculty seem to be upset about frequent (implied consensual) sex "absent an emotional relationship or ongoing commitment". I'm sorry but WHY is that anybody's business? As long as everybody consented what's the freakin' problem?

While BU probably has a left leaning student body, and has had some very prominent liberal professors, the actual administrative infrastructure of the university is actually shockingly conservative and has been ever since it was founded as a Methodist seminary in Vermont. So this isn't very surprising.

From the early 80's until the last few years, BU actually had very stringent guest policies that made having "over night guests" difficult, especially with someone of the other gender (you needed a sponsor) or short notice (extra paperwork on the spot, IDs turned over, etc.). I hear it has loosened recently, but it is probably still stricter than what you'd expect from a large secular university in Boston.


Actually, you're right; I'd forgotten about that. I did visit a friend back a while ago and had to break into the dorm to stay overnight... thankfully that was fairly easy...
 
2012-09-07 09:45:30 AM
fatalvenom:

Umm hockey players don't get 6-7's.

You're right. There's no football at BU, and college football is marginalized throughout New England. So that seems pretty low.
 
2012-09-07 09:52:09 AM

YoungLochinvar: HOWEVER, the professors/faculty seem to be upset about frequent (implied consensual) sex "absent an emotional relationship or ongoing commitment". I'm sorry but WHY is that anybody's business? As long as everybody consented what's the freakin' problem?


If the school is farming out girls, acting like a whore house to bring in talent, then you have a problem. The school should not foster an atmosphere where girls are expected to put out because sports.

That the sexual conduct crossed over into rape on multiple occasions... it doesn't speak well of the environment.
 
2012-09-07 10:17:43 AM
Time to vacate all their wins for the last 10 years.
 
2012-09-07 10:17:58 AM
Just another reason for me to say "Fark BU."

\they are, after all, the Duke of College Hockey
\\And we all know Duke Sucks....
 
2012-09-07 10:28:45 AM

andhravodu: WTF am I reading? There was a task force to find that hockey players got some action? and they are pissed about it? me thinks these are some nanny's who just hate that the young-ins are getting some. But isn't Boston supposed to be progressive and liberal towards this stuff?


Since you can't read, I'll repeat for you that several BU players have been accused of rape.
 
2012-09-07 10:40:43 AM

meanmutton: To stop the next group who are trying to protect their university by covering up horrendous crimes. If we don't make it so that the cover-up is punished more harshly than the fallout from not covering up the crimes, someone is going to do another cover-up in the future and willingly sacrifice themselves for the institution.


It's really adorable when people think a monster who would cover up molestation would stop and go "Whoa I guess I better turn it in or we might lose a bunch of scholarships and get a big old fine."
 
2012-09-07 10:44:54 AM

Vegan T-Rex: it's college sports, someone will screw up way bigger than BU soon.


No one will screw up. The sanctions and fines placed on Penn State have completely eradicated cover ups and child molestation on college campuses. Thank goodness they weren't just retribution, right?
 
2012-09-07 11:04:16 AM

kwame: Vegan T-Rex: it's college sports, someone will screw up way bigger than BU soon.

No one will screw up. The sanctions and fines placed on Penn State have completely eradicated cover ups and child molestation on college campuses. Thank goodness they weren't just retribution, right?


So since punishments don't eradicate all similar crimes by others, why bother with any punishments? Sign me up! This will save me a ton in taxes!

/You aren't good at this. Stop.
 
2012-09-07 12:02:55 PM
Seriously, how come there's never an investigation into the amount of sluts on campus? How did they get there? Don't they recruit women of "high moral fiber" to BU? God forbid personal responsibility be a 2-way street, right? Nobody ever talks about how often girls in tight social setting are out to bag the trophy guy, not for the peepee ride, but for bragging rights among their female peers. And how do you bag a guy when there's titties popping out everywhere and that girl next to you just walked up to him and grabbed his dick in the bar? You give him the bambi eyes and promise to do whatever he wants, because you don't want to be the lame hag left out. PEER PRESSURE from the other dingbats in your Phi Kappa Alpha sorority is the main problem here. Seriously, every report launched by people like Provost Jean Morrison NEVER seems to mention that factor. If you want to act like a depraved pole-smoking slut, it's legally my moral and civic duty to put a stop to you? Hah. I'm not your father. And whoever he is, he failed you as a father if this is how you act. Where's to farking program on campus to teach women a little self respect? I'm not a college athlete, but if some chick started grinding all over me, being the red-blooded male I am, I'd get a boner. It's not a mystery. So let me reiterate - 2 way street. If you want to avoid being a doormat for a student athlete, don't encourage the entitlement factor on campus and don't act like a slag throwing your roast beef everywhere. That may help you out. Otherwise, you're in big girl's school now. If the boys can't use alcohol as an excuse, it's only fair that you cannot either.
 
2012-09-07 12:08:43 PM

Vegan T-Rex: /You aren't good at this. Stop.


Says the guy who can't get the point.
 
2012-09-07 12:15:12 PM

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: Seriously, how come there's never an investigation into the amount of sluts on campus? How did they get there? Don't they recruit women of "high moral fiber" to BU? God forbid personal responsibility be a 2-way street, right? Nobody ever talks about how often girls in tight social setting are out to bag the trophy guy, not for the peepee ride, but for bragging rights among their female peers. And how do you bag a guy when there's titties popping out everywhere and that girl next to you just walked up to him and grabbed his dick in the bar? You give him the bambi eyes and promise to do whatever he wants, because you don't want to be the lame hag left out. PEER PRESSURE from the other dingbats in your Phi Kappa Alpha sorority is the main problem here. Seriously, every report launched by people like Provost Jean Morrison NEVER seems to mention that factor. If you want to act like a depraved pole-smoking slut, it's legally my moral and civic duty to put a stop to you? Hah. I'm not your father. And whoever he is, he failed you as a father if this is how you act. Where's to farking program on campus to teach women a little self respect? I'm not a college athlete, but if some chick started grinding all over me, being the red-blooded male I am, I'd get a boner. It's not a mystery. So let me reiterate - 2 way street. If you want to avoid being a doormat for a student athlete, don't encourage the entitlement factor on campus and don't act like a slag throwing your roast beef everywhere. That may help you out. Otherwise, you're in big girl's school now. If the boys can't use alcohol as an excuse, it's only fair that you cannot either.


I love this post so much.
 
2012-09-07 01:21:31 PM

foo monkey: TheOmni: Yeah, this is just overblown reaction to entirely normal college behavior. I mean, really, who has ever been hurt by a little bit of rape? I guess women, maybe, but no one important. Hell, they don't even play a sport. Well, not a real sport.

Was it legitimate rape?


It was a 40-pound box of legitimate rape rape.
 
2012-09-07 01:32:29 PM

kwame: Vegan T-Rex: /You aren't good at this. Stop.

Says the guy who can't get the point.


I know a logical fallacy when I see one.
 
2012-09-07 02:00:50 PM

legion_of_doo: YoungLochinvar: HOWEVER, the professors/faculty seem to be upset about frequent (implied consensual) sex "absent an emotional relationship or ongoing commitment". I'm sorry but WHY is that anybody's business? As long as everybody consented what's the freakin' problem?

If the school is farming out girls, acting like a whore house to bring in talent, then you have a problem. The school should not foster an atmosphere where girls are expected to put out because sports.

That the sexual conduct crossed over into rape on multiple occasions... it doesn't speak well of the environment.


Where in the hell did you get that the school was "farming out girls"? I mean if we're just gonna make ridiculous, fact-free assumptions...
 
2012-09-07 02:06:14 PM

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: Seriously, how come there's never an investigation into the amount of sluts on campus? How did they get there? Don't they recruit women of "high moral fiber" to BU? God forbid personal responsibility be a 2-way street, right? Nobody ever talks about how often girls in tight social setting are out to bag the trophy guy, not for the peepee ride, but for bragging rights among their female peers. And how do you bag a guy when there's titties popping out everywhere and that girl next to you just walked up to him and grabbed his dick in the bar? You give him the bambi eyes and promise to do whatever he wants, because you don't want to be the lame hag left out. PEER PRESSURE from the other dingbats in your Phi Kappa Alpha sorority is the main problem here. Seriously, every report launched by people like Provost Jean Morrison NEVER seems to mention that factor. If you want to act like a depraved pole-smoking slut, it's legally my moral and civic duty to put a stop to you? Hah. I'm not your father. And whoever he is, he failed you as a father if this is how you act. Where's to farking program on campus to teach women a little self respect? I'm not a college athlete, but if some chick started grinding all over me, being the red-blooded male I am, I'd get a boner. It's not a mystery. So let me reiterate - 2 way street. If you want to avoid being a doormat for a student athlete, don't encourage the entitlement factor on campus and don't act like a slag throwing your roast beef everywhere. That may help you out. Otherwise, you're in big girl's school now. If the boys can't use alcohol as an excuse, it's only fair that you cannot either.


Hey, just because she showed up at the party with a top that stopped 1/4 of an inch above her nipples, and stopped 8 inches above the top of her skirt (which stops about 1/2 an inch below her ass), with a push up bra, 2 pounds of makeup, and 8 ounces of perfume on, then proceeded to kill two bottles of tequila with you, while you did body shots out of her navel, ground on your lap for 2 hours, made out with you for 45 minutes, took you back to her dorm room/apartment, gave you a little strip tease, and screamed "Oh God, Yes, Fark Me Harker!" all night, that DOES NOT mean she wanted to have sex with you, or "deserved it" in some way if three days later she decides that she was raped. You should know that. The second X chromosome means that she can decide that something is rape, and your Y chromosome means that you're wrong. No matter what.
 
2012-09-07 03:35:22 PM

legion_of_doo: YoungLochinvar: HOWEVER, the professors/faculty seem to be upset about frequent (implied consensual) sex "absent an emotional relationship or ongoing commitment". I'm sorry but WHY is that anybody's business? As long as everybody consented what's the freakin' problem?

If the school is farming out girls, acting like a whore house to bring in talent, then you have a problem. The school should not foster an atmosphere where girls are expected to put out because sports.

That the sexual conduct crossed over into rape on multiple occasions... it doesn't speak well of the environment.


Perhaps you can explain to me how one guilty plea and one set of dropped charges = multiple rapes.
 
2012-09-07 03:45:48 PM
In the Northeast, especially in the Hockey East universities, hockey beats out football. (This coming from a former college football player.) Couple that with the fact that BU doesn't even have a football program anymore, and the phenomenon around here known as puck sluts, and you have your recipe for disaster. Knuckleheads who don't understand women as individuals, and entitlement and all that.

CSB:
I knew people who have been kicked out of school for rape, brought to police, and brought in front of committees for being too stupid and stubborn to understand that sometimes a woman doesn't want to have sex. It may very well be that she had consensual sex with the rapist only days prior. She also may confuse you further by not being as attractive as some of the girls from your sexual past. But you have to be some kind of dirtbag, regardless of the "entitlement environment", to not understand when someone says no, and not understand it when she says it multiple times throughout the whole incident. If you can't understand her feelings, at least you can comprehend the consequences...jailtime, expulsion...right? no? It still happens?

My take away from those situations were:
1. I can't believe I am associated with these people - I tend to just look the other way when they're pulling fire alarms or playing with a fire extinguisher or cheating on tests, but they keep pushing in the wrong direction and not facing large enough penalties while committing misdemeanors or slight indiscretions, etc...

2. I'm not the least bit surprised that they did this - it's like getting away with pulling fire alarms, shooting off fire extinguishers, and cheating and generally being stupid and brash is a gateway to potentially being a type of rapist. But not everyone who has these entitlement issues actually is a rapist..though the dangerous potential is there.

3. Being around these people brings the rest of us down. No matter how good they are at tackling or throwing or in this BU case ,puck handling, an idiot is an idiot is an idiot. The potential is there and you don't need the risk or the headaches, Get rid of them.
/end CSB-rant-gibberish
 
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