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2012-09-06 03:42:02 PM

IAmRight: Utlimately, if I had to set up a system, and if I were looking at a system in the future, I could see four conferences (Big XII probably splits up, half going to the Big 10, half going to the Pac-12 in this scenario) of 16 teams, two divisions - play everyone within your division, then winners play a title game - winner of the title game goes into a tournament for the title. Runners-up go into a tournament for a runner-up title.



I'm totally down with this.  100%.  Better than voting teams into the playoffs... however, you still have to give non-top-4-conference teams a shot in the future.  So there should be some sort of relegation system.  kicking underperforming schools out and putting up-and-comers (TCU, Boise State are the recent stories) in.
 
So what I'd so is your plan, but make it an 8 team playoff.  The top 4 seeds are the 4 conference champs.  The last 4 seeds are determined *somehow*.  Not sure how... but allow for surprise teams to at least have a shot in the playoffs.
 
Or, at least, make it a 6 team playoff.  Seeds 1 and 2 get a bye.  Seeds 3 and 4 play "wild cards" 5 and 6.  5 and 6, again, determined in as fair of a manner as possible.
 
2012-09-06 03:50:46 PM

Aar1012: Browncoat: JaredPointer: [t3.gstatic.com image 275x183]

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Sometimes this happens.

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And sometimes this happens.

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And sometimes it happens again a couple years later. you get lucky because of the bias towards your top-heavy, overrated conference and the idea that 'every game counts' is thrown out the window

FTFY


And sometimes you beat the living shiat out of LSU.

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2012-09-06 03:52:56 PM

downstairs: I'm totally down with this.  100%.  Better than voting teams into the playoffs... however, you still have to give non-top-4-conference teams a shot in the future.  So there should be some sort of relegation system.  kicking underperforming schools out and putting up-and-comers (TCU, Boise State are the recent stories) in.


Nope. No relegation/promotion. It's a stupid system that keeps bottom-feeders, bottom-feeders forever and consolidates power at the top (no one wants to go to a team that has a chance of not being in the top league).

Besides, with the top 64 teams in, Boise State and TCU would be in one of those conferences. If we're saying that there are too many teams in bowls now, and there are roughly that number of teams (only qualifying because they get many of their wins against teams that couldn't make bowl games)...well, you're not losing anything by eliminating those teams.

/if they'd just kick teams out of FBS that don't meet the qualifications (like you're supposed to at least average 10,000 fans/game), then we'd be able to eliminate 10 of the 120 teams.

downstairs: So what I'd so is your plan, but make it an 8 team playoff.  The top 4 seeds are the 4 conference champs.


(my idea is an 8-team playoff, it's just that the "conference championship game" is the first round.)
 
2012-09-06 05:55:46 PM

downstairs: IAmRight: downstairs:
EVERYTHING ALL HAS TO HAVE THE SAME FORMAT OR ELSE I REFUSE TO CARE ABOUT IT!

No, not at all.  But the current format sucks and makes the whole sport meaningless to the casual fan.  Propose something different than what I did... I'm all ears.


Gladly. I've spent entirely too much time thinking about these meaningless things. Here's my proposal

Keep the current 4-team playoff. That's actually a good move. I was in favor of 8 teams, just because of the one year where there were 5 undefeated teams in the regular season, but this is fine too. As long as there's these requirements:

*You are not allowed to play more than one FCS team every two years
*You are not getting into the playoff without winning a conference or being an undefeated independent
*Seeding and selection is done by record FIRST, and BCS ranking as a tiebreaker

Also, the bowl system will be re-integrated into a new State Championship system. The basics is this:

Most states have multiple teams in state. These states will be required to hold a state championship every year, as a "week 13 game", the week after Rivalry week and before conference championship week. If needed, semi-finals will be held on rivalry week or earlier in the season. Existing bowls will now be serving more local teams and holding a non-worthless bowl trophy. This restores meaning to bowls, as well as reduces travel costs and promotes rivalries. Examples:

Ohio: At some point in the season, Ohio State will play Cincy every year (week 1 maybe?). The winner of that game will face the best Ohio MAC team in the state title game.
Florida: In rivalry week, the winner of FSU/Miami (ACC) will face the winner of UCF/USF (Big East), while Florida takes on the winner of FAU/FIU, with the losers taking on the losers (and the loser of FIU/FAU taking on an FCS team like FAMU). The winners take each other on in the state title game.
Kansas: KSU/Kansas take each other on in the state title week, and as a result get an extra non-conference game in the regular season (same thing happens to Arizona, Oregon and Washington).
Indiana: Purdue and Indiana play in rivalry week, to take on the winner of a permanently scheduled Notre Dame/Ball State game.
Michigan: The winner of MSU/UM takes on the best Michigan team from the WAC

Each state creates their own game, and some states (Texas in particular with 16 total fbs teams in 5 different conferences) will be harder than others. But it cuts down a lot of the meaningless bowl games that become more meaningless with the playoff in place. It also doesn't eliminate the bowl system entirely, as there are more bowls that wouldn't be absorbed into that (mostly in Florida, Texas and Arizona), and the "Big 4" bowls would be left in place.
 
2012-09-06 06:17:14 PM

pion: Per the original topic of the thread, I think it's more likely than people think, since I could see Alabama winning the game something like 30-3 or 30-0.


Western Kentucky did just beat the crap out of an FCS team like the BCS teams do. But it's a silly bet to make because you never know when Alabama is going to pull the plug, and you never know if pulling the plug is going to have an effect because you could see the 6th string running back break a 75 yard TD run.
 
2012-09-06 06:40:44 PM
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Hogs you are next!!!
 
2012-09-06 07:22:35 PM

12349876: pion: Per the original topic of the thread, I think it's more likely than people think, since I could see Alabama winning the game something like 30-3 or 30-0.

Western Kentucky did just beat the crap out of an FCS team like the BCS teams do. But it's a silly bet to make because you never know when Alabama is going to pull the plug, and you never know if pulling the plug is going to have an effect because you could see the 6th string running back break a 75 yard TD run.


Considering Bama's backup running backs just combined for 199 yards against Michigan, that's a very really real possibility.
 
2012-09-06 07:55:47 PM

rugman11: 12349876: pion: Per the original topic of the thread, I think it's more likely than people think, since I could see Alabama winning the game something like 30-3 or 30-0.

Western Kentucky did just beat the crap out of an FCS team like the BCS teams do. But it's a silly bet to make because you never know when Alabama is going to pull the plug, and you never know if pulling the plug is going to have an effect because you could see the 6th string running back break a 75 yard TD run.

Considering Bama's backup running backs just combined for 199 yards against Michigan, that's a very really real possibility.


I agree. However, if the spread is 40 points, I think WKU has a better than even chance to cover. Also, I just noticed that WKU has a senior QB, so he might be able to make enough happen to get a touchdown or two. Heck, I would love it if WKU actually won, since I'm from KY, but I can't see how their defensive line doesn't just get manhandled out of the way by Alabama, which goes back to the rushing point you two brought up.
 
2012-09-06 08:53:58 PM

pion: IAmRight: a) No one schedules two per year.

They typically only do so when another game falls through, such as Florida State did this year. Teams don't because you can only count 1 FCS win toward your bowl eligibility.

Per the original topic of the thread, I think it's more likely than people think, since I could see Alabama winning the game something like 30-3 or 30-0.


And, should WKU pull a Louisiana-Monroe against the tide, Alabama will be given a mulligan and will be allowed to play them again later in the season.

Fark Alabama.
 
2012-09-06 09:39:51 PM

Sick Old Farker: And, should WKU pull a Louisiana-Monroe against the tide, Alabama will be given a mulligan and will be allowed to play them again later in the season.

Fark Alabama.



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2012-09-06 10:00:14 PM

Sick Old Farker: pion: IAmRight: a) No one schedules two per year.

They typically only do so when another game falls through, such as Florida State did this year. Teams don't because you can only count 1 FCS win toward your bowl eligibility.

Per the original topic of the thread, I think it's more likely than people think, since I could see Alabama winning the game something like 30-3 or 30-0.

And, should WKU pull a Louisiana-Monroe against the tide, Alabama will be given a mulligan and will be allowed to play them again later in the season.

Fark Alabama.


Whatever. Nobody had a problem when it looked like Oregon was going to get a second shot at LSU, but when it's Alabama everybody gets butt hurt. Maybe if Oklahoma State had scheduled a better non-conference opponent than UL-Lafayette, Tulsa, or Arizona they would have gotten their shot at LSU.
 
2012-09-06 10:08:55 PM

rugman11: Whatever. Nobody had a problem when it looked like Oregon was going to get a second shot at LSU, but when it's Alabama everybody gets butt hurt.


In fairness, Oregon was a conference champion. Big difference between rematch of two conference champions and two teams within the same division of a conference.
 
2012-09-06 11:11:53 PM

rugman11: Whatever. Nobody had a problem when it looked like Oregon was going to get a second shot at LSU, but when it's Alabama everybody gets butt hurt. Maybe if Oklahoma State had scheduled a better non-conference opponent than UL-Lafayette, Tulsa, or Arizona they would have gotten their shot at LSU.


Oregon won their conference.
Oklahoma State won their conference.
Alabama did not win their division.

Should've been OK State - everything broke perfectly on the final weekend of the season, almost like it was rigged, to put OK State in there with no problems. oSu beat the hell out of a highly-ranked Oklahoma squad. Houston, the only other undefeated team, lost. And some other games that were less directly related.

/but I really don't care
//Oregon would've been an interesting matchup because it would've been a "start of the season/end of the season" matchup...but I didn't want to see them in there, either
///would've given LSU the title without even playing a championship game
 
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