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(Pro Football Talk)   Art Modell died. Services to be held in the middle of the night   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 298
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2012-09-06 08:31:43 AM  
Wrong team subby
 
2012-09-06 08:32:57 AM  
All those years of Cleveland fans sending bad karma to Baltimore have finally worked!


not a Cleveland fan
 
2012-09-06 08:33:46 AM  
Everyone in northeast Ohio is dancing in the street this morning.
 
2012-09-06 08:35:05 AM  
Sucks what he did to the fans in Cleveland.
 
2012-09-06 08:35:30 AM  
It will be the only grave in the cemetary witha urinal AND a dance floor
 
2012-09-06 08:35:57 AM  
*pa-toot*
 
2012-09-06 08:38:08 AM  

InfrasonicTom: Wrong team subby


Better:

"Art Modell died. Patients remove equipment, trash room during bedside vigil."
 
2012-09-06 08:38:58 AM  
Alive, dead, he's still unwelcome in Cleveland.
 
2012-09-06 08:39:34 AM  
:(
 
2012-09-06 08:39:42 AM  
Gonna miss his commercials.

We'll leave a light on for you, Art.
 
2012-09-06 08:43:09 AM  
B'more football is the juggernaut it is today nationally as well as within the city and community thanks to him. RIP.

/all the hate from Cleveland can eabod
 
2012-09-06 08:43:38 AM  

Gunny Highway: Sucks what he did to the fans in Cleveland.


How so?

That old drunk, Bob Irsay, repeatedly said the Colts wouldn't leave Baltimore in the media.

What happens? He packs them up and moves them in the middle of the night less than 2 weeks after saying so to then Mayor Schaefer on TV. He takes the history, the name, the logo, everything except the band to Indianapolis and guts Baltimore with the move.

Modell threatens for years for Cleveland to help build a new stadium or risk losing the team. Cleveland balks. Modell takes the team, but leaves the name and history, and the NFL allows Cleveland to have an expansion team ONE YEAR after Modell leaves town. One year without football. Try going 14 years without, through multiple attempts at expansion (with the NFL blocking it), exhibition games, a CFL team, and then and only then we get a team. Try going all those years while watching another town have your team's name and colors.

To the credit of Johnny U, Artie Donovan, Gino Marchetti, and the rest of the BALTIMORE Colts, they never accepted the Indianapolis team.

Had Irsay left the history of the team and whatnot here and renamed them, people wouldn't care. But Modell at least understood that the Browns name must stay in Cleveland.

Bob Irsay can roast in hell.

RIP Art.
 
2012-09-06 08:43:52 AM  
Not sure how to feel about Art Modell. He righted a grievous wrong committed by Jim Irsay, but screwed Browns fans in the process.

meh, either way, I am morally and ethically bound to hate all three teams tied up in this clusterfark. Art Rooney's biatch slapping him right now.
 
2012-09-06 08:44:52 AM  

meatofmystery: B'more football is the juggernaut it is today nationally as well as within the city and community thanks to him. RIP.


There wouldn't be a problem if your team didn't leave the city.

/Every Ravens win is a Browns win in my book
 
2012-09-06 08:45:18 AM  

Drunken_Irish_Joker: Modell at least understood that the Browns name must stay in Cleveland.


It took a lawsuit from the city of Cleveland to keep the team's name and records in Cleveland. Modell's plan was to create the Baltimore Browns.

Rot in Hell, you piece of sh*t.
 
2012-09-06 08:46:04 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Everyone in northeast Ohio is dancing in the street this morning.


There are still streets in northeast Ohio? I thought all they had left were ruins spotted with faded images of LeBron James.
 
2012-09-06 08:48:00 AM  
At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.
 
2012-09-06 08:48:32 AM  
When I would go to the Champ car race in Cleveland, I saw a hospital, museum and park donated by Mr. Modell.
Drive around Baltimore and find anything Irsay ever put into the city.
Rest in Peace Mr. Modell.
 
2012-09-06 08:48:59 AM  
Drunken_Irish_Joker

You seem to be a little biased.
 
2012-09-06 08:50:20 AM  

ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.


Yep, look at all the taxpayer-funded NFL stadiums that popped up after Modell left. He really did a bang-up job there.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have Charleston lessons and a trip to Baltimore to book.
 
2012-09-06 08:50:37 AM  

ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.


You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.
 
2012-09-06 08:51:58 AM  

sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.


You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.
 
2012-09-06 08:52:44 AM  
"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."
-Clarence Darrow
 
2012-09-06 08:54:05 AM  

Drunken_Irish_Joker: Gunny Highway: Sucks what he did to the fans in Cleveland.

How so?


Modell threatens for years for Cleveland to help build a new stadium or risk losing the team. Cleveland balks. Modell takes the team, but leaves the name and history, and the NFL allows Cleveland to have an expansion team ONE YEAR after Modell leaves town. One year without football. Try going 14 years without, through multiple attempts at expansion (with the NFL blocking it), exhibition games, a CFL team, and then and only then we get a team. Try going all those years while watching another town have your team's name and colors.

RIP Art.



Are you farking kidding me?

Art Modell tried to blackmail the citizens of the city to pay for a stadium that SHOULD have been be paid for by the team/NFL. Public paid football stadiums are almost always a HUGE drag on the local economies. At the time he was blackmailing the city for hundreds of millions of dollars, the city desperately needed money for real improvements to the economy. He left and the city still bent over backwards to get another team. To the tune of $400 million dollars so far. The current value of the stadium? $122 million.

fark you, fark the Browns and fark professional football all together. I have not watched a pro game since the NFL owners agreed to let him leave.
 
2012-09-06 08:54:36 AM  

we'refromthesamestory: sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.

You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.


Are you from Baltimore?
 
2012-09-06 08:54:36 AM  

we'refromthesamestory: sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.

You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.


He uprooted our team, took away something that was ingrained in the city, something that unified the people here, gave it to a city that had their team uprooted yet welcomed someone else's team with open arms, and we were left with the empty, resurrected "Pet Sematary" corpse that has been the Cleveland Browns of the last 13 years. I hope he's in whatever part of Hell that requires daily Hitler sodomizing.
 
2012-09-06 08:54:37 AM  
As a Steelers fan, this man robbed us of our greatest enemy. Sure, we went on to hate the Ravens and the new Browns, but it's never been quite the same.
 
2012-09-06 08:55:29 AM  
Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
2012-09-06 08:55:37 AM  
www.themaneater.com

RIP Naked Lady


/this meme shall never die.
 
2012-09-06 08:56:08 AM  
Modell, was very upfront when he left Cleveland. He told them for YEARS they needed to do something. They ignored him, he left.

Irsay was the whore slut leaving in the middle of the night.

(for the record no one wanted the "browns" name - it always was and still is a losing franchise:P)
 
2012-09-06 08:56:32 AM  
Das Model?
 
2012-09-06 08:58:11 AM  

Gunny Highway: Drunken_Irish_Joker

You seem to be a little biased.


You're goddamned right I am.

CavalierEternal: Drunken_Irish_Joker: Modell at least understood that the Browns name must stay in Cleveland.

It took a lawsuit from the city of Cleveland to keep the team's name and records in Cleveland. Modell's plan was to create the Baltimore Browns.

Rot in Hell, you piece of sh*t.


Wrong. It was because of wrongful termination of the lease of the stadium. Not because of the name/records. The NFL deactivated that because of the debacle with the Colts leaving Baltimore. The NFL held the naming rights and put them up for bid to the new owners.
 
2012-09-06 08:58:15 AM  
time heals all wounds Cleveland.....................

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www.theclevelandfan.com

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2012-09-06 08:58:49 AM  

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: fark you, fark the Browns and fark professional football all together. I have not watched a pro game since the NFL owners agreed to let him leave.


Thanks to the NCAA taking out about every good team north of the Mason-Dixon, college football isn't doing well in Ohio as well.
 
2012-09-06 08:58:53 AM  

CavalierEternal: we'refromthesamestory: sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.

You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.

He uprooted our team, took away something that was ingrained in the city, something that unified the people here, gave it to a city that had their team uprooted yet welcomed someone else's team with open arms, and we were left with the empty, resurrected "Pet Sematary" corpse that has been the Cleveland Browns of the last 13 years. I hope he's in whatever part of Hell that requires daily Hitler sodomizing.


You're talking to someone who didn't have football to watch until they were 8...

Also, You still have the name. You still have a team. We got left with nothing. It's a little hard to feel bad for you. Especially when you're flaming a man that's in the grave.
 
2012-09-06 08:59:47 AM  

Gunny Highway: Drunken_Irish_Joker

You seem to be a little biased.


And ignorant. He conveniently left out the fact that the city of Baltimore was going to take the Colts away from Irsay, claiming eminent domain. Irsay tried to work with the city but ulitmately he did what he had to do to keep what was rightfully his.

/Baltimore sucks
 
2012-09-06 09:00:16 AM  

we'refromthesamestory: CavalierEternal: we'refromthesamestory: sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.

You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.

He uprooted our team, took away something that was ingrained in the city, something that unified the people here, gave it to a city that had their team uprooted yet welcomed someone else's team with open arms, and we were left with the empty, resurrected "Pet Sematary" corpse that has been the Cleveland Browns of the last 13 years. I hope he's in whatever part of Hell that requires daily Hitler sodomizing.

You're talking to someone who didn't have football to watch until they were 8...

Also, You still have the name. You still have a team. We got left with nothing. It's a little hard to feel bad for you. Especially when you're flaming a man that's in the grave.


You have a team that by all rights shouldn't exist. The fact that it does is a permanent stain on the league.
 
2012-09-06 09:00:36 AM  

crashumbc: Modell, was very upfront when he left Cleveland. He told them for YEARS they needed to do something. They ignored him, he left.

Irsay was the whore slut leaving in the middle of the night.

(for the record no one wanted the "browns" name - it always was and still is a losing franchise:P)


This.
 
2012-09-06 09:01:42 AM  

Drunken_Irish_Joker: You're goddamned right I am.


we'refromthesamestory: Also, You still have the name. You still have a team. We got left with nothing. It's a little hard to feel bad for you. Especially when you're flaming a man that's in the grave.


Kurmudgeon: Two wrongs don't make a right.

 
2012-09-06 09:02:08 AM  

CavalierEternal: we'refromthesamestory: sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.

You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.

He uprooted our team, took away something that was ingrained in the city, something that unified the people here, gave it to a city that had their team uprooted yet welcomed someone else's team with open arms, and we were left with the empty, resurrected "Pet Sematary" corpse that has been the Cleveland Browns of the last 13 years. I hope he's in whatever part of Hell that requires daily Hitler sodomizing.


I'd think that it wouldn't be the easiest decision to judge. I'll settle for at least him being unwelcome in Cleveland and heeding the warnings not to come back without the team.
 
2012-09-06 09:02:21 AM  
CavalierEternal:

He uprooted our team, took away something that was ingrained in the city, something that unified the people here, gave it to a city that had their team uprooted yet welcomed someone else's team with open arms, and we were left with the empty, resurrected "Pet Sematary" corpse that has been the Cleveland Browns of the last 13 years. I hope he's in whatever part of Hell that requires daily Hitler sodomizing.

Corpse? What exactly was the Browns franchise prior to? A perennial Superbowl contender? You guys got your team back, with its name and records intact. It isn't like the Ravens were contending for playoff berths under Marchibroda, either.

Nobody here likes the fact that we got another town's team. Get it? The NFL guaranteed you a new team in the next expansion draft, with your colors, name, and record. The fact that your team still sucks like it did? Chalk it up to the "Football Teams From Ohio Must Suck Ass" clause.

(HAH!)
 
2012-09-06 09:02:27 AM  

CavalierEternal: we'refromthesamestory: CavalierEternal: we'refromthesamestory: sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.

You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.

He uprooted our team, took away something that was ingrained in the city, something that unified the people here, gave it to a city that had their team uprooted yet welcomed someone else's team with open arms, and we were left with the empty, resurrected "Pet Sematary" corpse that has been the Cleveland Browns of the last 13 years. I hope he's in whatever part of Hell that requires daily Hitler sodomizing.

You're talking to someone who didn't have football to watch until they were 8...

Also, You still have the name. You still have a team. We got left with nothing. It's a little hard to feel bad for you. Especially when you're flaming a man that's in the grave.

You have a team that by all rights shouldn't exist. The fact that it does is a permanent stain on the league.


Wow.
 
2012-09-06 09:04:18 AM  
Art Modell deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. If you disagree, I hope you get AIDS.

Him and Lamar Hunt did more for the NFL to become what it is today than any other deserving owner that is in the Hall of Fame. Art did more than Al Davis, (who moved from Oakland to LA and then back to Oakland again), the Rooneys, and Ralph Wilson. All those guys are well deserving, don't get me wrong. But Art should be in there too... and he should have been in there a decade ago.

The guy from the Cleveland Plains-Dealer who platformed his case to keep Art out, I hope feels ashamed. His desicion to move from Cleveland was a business one-- and a smart one. His desicion to let the City of Cleveland keep the Browns team name, records, and colors was the classiest move that anyone could have done in that situation. (How many other owners, who have relocated, done the exact opposite?)

Art should have been enshrined years ago-- that is a fact. I think it's ironic, and fitting, that on Monday, the Baltimore Ravens will be hosting Monday Night Football. A television program that would not have ever existed if it wasn't for the pioneer thinking from Mr. Modell.
 
2012-09-06 09:04:50 AM  

we'refromthesamestory: CavalierEternal: we'refromthesamestory: CavalierEternal: we'refromthesamestory: sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.

You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.

He uprooted our team, took away something that was ingrained in the city, something that unified the people here, gave it to a city that had their team uprooted yet welcomed someone else's team with open arms, and we were left with the empty, resurrected "Pet Sematary" corpse that has been the Cleveland Browns of the last 13 years. I hope he's in whatever part of Hell that requires daily Hitler sodomizing.

You're talking to someone who didn't have football to watch until they were 8...

Also, You still have the name. You still have a team. We got left with nothing. It's a little hard to feel bad for you. Especially when you're flaming a man that's in the grave.

You have a team that by all rights shouldn't exist. The fact that it does is a permanent stain on the league.

Wow.


He ain't lying.
 
2012-09-06 09:06:54 AM  

Drunken_Irish_Joker: Gunny Highway: Sucks what he did to the fans in Cleveland.

How so?

That old drunk, Bob Irsay, repeatedly said the Colts wouldn't leave Baltimore in the media.

What happens? He packs them up and moves them in the middle of the night less than 2 weeks after saying so to then Mayor Schaefer on TV. He takes the history, the name, the logo, everything except the band to Indianapolis and guts Baltimore with the move.

Modell threatens for years for Cleveland to help build a new stadium or risk losing the team. Cleveland balks. Modell takes the team, but leaves the name and history, and the NFL allows Cleveland to have an expansion team ONE YEAR after Modell leaves town. One year without football. Try going 14 years without, through multiple attempts at expansion (with the NFL blocking it), exhibition games, a CFL team, and then and only then we get a team. Try going all those years while watching another town have your team's name and colors.

To the credit of Johnny U, Artie Donovan, Gino Marchetti, and the rest of the BALTIMORE Colts, they never accepted the Indianapolis team.

Had Irsay left the history of the team and whatnot here and renamed them, people wouldn't care. But Modell at least understood that the Browns name must stay in Cleveland.

Bob Irsay can roast in hell.

RIP Art.


Could you possibly be more ignorant? Modell held a farking press conference in Baltimore announcing them as the Baltimore Browns. He only left the team colors and records when he lost a lawsuit.

It sucks that Baltimore lost the Colts. Your complicity in stealing a beloved franchise from another city only shows what complete scumbags you are.
 
2012-09-06 09:07:12 AM  

we'refromthesamestory: CavalierEternal: we'refromthesamestory: sethstorm: ELwest: At least Cleveland got a team back soon after.
Baltimore had to wait 13 yrs. And everyone in Baltimore knew how the Cleveland fans felt. Art did a lot for football, just not a lot for Clevelend.

You're doing something wrong if you have to hoodwink an entire city - just to move a football team. One should not be surprised if the city considers you unwelcome.

You're doing something wrong when you're mad about something 16 years later.

He uprooted our team, took away something that was ingrained in the city, something that unified the people here, gave it to a city that had their team uprooted yet welcomed someone else's team with open arms, and we were left with the empty, resurrected "Pet Sematary" corpse that has been the Cleveland Browns of the last 13 years. I hope he's in whatever part of Hell that requires daily Hitler sodomizing.

You're talking to someone who didn't have football to watch until they were 8...

Also, You still have the name. You still have a team. We got left with nothing. It's a little hard to feel bad for you. Especially when you're flaming a man that's in the grave.


I've watched the team since the mid-late 80's in some way or another. While that isn't long in comparison to the history of the team, it is long enough to know what passes for the Browns isn't the same team. Before Modell moved the team, the Bengals would not have a chance against the Browns - now the teams are evenly matched.
 
2012-09-06 09:07:33 AM  
Just for the record, I would like to point out that there are many of us in Cleveland who were very upset by the move and bitter towards Art Modell for a very long time that are in no way celebrating the death of an old man who made a controversial business decision 18 years ago. Please remember that fact when the mainstream media seeks out our loudest and most unforgiving idiots and puts them on your TV screen. Cleveland sports fans get painted in many ways nationwide, but I would guess most of us are currently cringing at the bitter fools who are about to speak on our "behalf."
 
2012-09-06 09:09:31 AM  

Drunken_Irish_Joker: Modell threatens for years for Cleveland to help build a new stadium or risk losing the team. Cleveland balks


The city had no problem building a stadium for the Browns, as the plan was to build a football stadium in the Gateway complex near what is now Progressive Field and the Q. The issue was the revenue stream that Modell would be receiving from non-NFL games. This consistently gets lost on people, but Modell moved the team because he was broke. He literally had to take a loan out prior to the 1993 season to cover Andre Rison's signing bonus. Baltimore offered to build a stadium and gave him a $50M fee for moving. Without that fee, Modell would have been forced to sell the team.

Drunken_Irish_Joker: NFL allows Cleveland to have an expansion team ONE YEAR after Modell leaves town. One year without football.


The city had to sue. There was also a three year, not one year, gap between the move and the return of the team.

Drunken_Irish_Joker: Gunny Highway:
RIP Art.


Fark that. I'm sad that his death wasn't more protracted and painful.
 
2012-09-06 09:09:35 AM  
www.coasttocoastam.com

RIP Art Bell
 
2012-09-06 09:09:48 AM  

Earl Green: Just for the record, I would like to point out that there are many of us in Cleveland who were very upset by the move and bitter towards Art Modell for a very long time that are in no way celebrating the death of an old man who made a controversial business decision 18 years ago. Please remember that fact when the mainstream media seeks out our loudest and most unforgiving idiots and puts them on your TV screen. Cleveland sports fans get painted in many ways nationwide, but I would guess most of us are currently cringing at the bitter fools who are about to speak on our "behalf."


Death would just make it harder for him to make good on his misdeed.
 
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