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2012-09-06 08:17:46 AM
Deregulation. Clinton signed a sweeping banking deregulation bill that overturned Depression-era banking rules.

Yeah, that ended well.
 
2012-09-06 08:19:10 AM
The good news is, Obama is no Mitt Romney.

Also, your blog sucks. Again. As usual.
 
2012-09-06 08:22:02 AM
1. White
2. Not Married to Hillary
3. Wasn't President from 1992-2000
4. Not from Arkansas
5. Has two daughters instead of one
 
2012-09-06 08:27:18 AM
After seeing reviews of Clinton's speech, since I didn't watch it, it's pretty easy to see what's going on today in the GOP: let's pretend we all loved Clinton and he was great so people think we need him back and not Obama.
 
2012-09-06 08:31:23 AM

James!: 1. White
2. Not Married to Hillary
3. Wasn't President from 1992-2000
4. Not from Arkansas
5. Has two daughters instead of one


6. Has never flown overhead in Marine One while I was out on a canoe fishing.
 
2012-09-06 08:45:24 AM
We get it, he's blah....
 
2012-09-06 08:49:20 AM

doyner: We get it, he's blah....


ACK! He's no Clinton? That explains so much...
 
2012-09-06 08:50:45 AM
FTA: • Deregulation. Clinton signed a sweeping banking deregulation bill that overturned Depression-era banking rules. Obama complained about that law when running for president, and signed a sweeping re-regulation bill once in office.

Yeah, and look where that left us.

I don't understand the current love-affair with Clinton from my fellow Democrats. Maybe it's a rose-colored-glasses-looking-into-the-past thing. But just some of the things he did were to sign in DADT, and DOMA. And those are just the social issues that he 'compromised' on.

I get it, he was supposedly good at cooperating with Republicans to make government work. But sometimes, I think it took it way too far.
 
2012-09-06 08:58:21 AM

Cythraul: FTA: • Deregulation. Clinton signed a sweeping banking deregulation bill that overturned Depression-era banking rules. Obama complained about that law when running for president, and signed a sweeping re-regulation bill once in office.

Yeah, and look where that left us.

I don't understand the current love-affair with Clinton from my fellow Democrats. Maybe it's a rose-colored-glasses-looking-into-the-past thing. But just some of the things he did were to sign in DADT, and DOMA. And those are just the social issues that he 'compromised' on.

I get it, he was supposedly good at cooperating with Republicans to make government work. But sometimes, I think it took it way too far.


I totally agree with this, as it's true. Clinton caused our financial meltdown by enacting all of this. Bush never bothered to fix it, though it became a HUGE issue, and tried to hide it till he got out of office. The timebomb went off a few month too early though.

Or perhaps, that was Rove's plan: Hide it as long as possible so the next President (who was undoubtedly going to be Obama) would take the brunt of it on his chin. Of course, according to Right Wingers, there was nothing wrong with the economy until January 2009. The it was a catastrophe because the President was near and not doing anything.
 
2012-09-06 09:04:11 AM
6. Didn't sign a repeal that gutted financial reform and regulation.
 
2012-09-06 09:07:05 AM

James!: 1. White


i249.photobucket.com

Cythraul: FTA: • Deregulation. Clinton signed a sweeping banking deregulation bill that overturned Depression-era banking rules. Obama complained about that law when running for president, and signed a sweeping re-regulation bill once in office.

Yeah, and look where that left us.


Ah, good, I see someone had already covered that.
 
2012-09-06 09:08:21 AM
Clinton talks about all the "investments" - liberal code word for government spending

We get it, your blog sucks.
 
2012-09-06 09:19:02 AM
Here's the thing about the attacks on Clinton over Glas-Steagall. The right wing is beating this drum furiously today. 'Clinton is bad because he deregulated. Why don't you liberals hate him for deregulation which caused this economic problem?'

Wait, so NOW the right wing is against deregulation? Liberals KNOW deregulation is bad, and can point to Glass-Steagall as proof. But the right is calling for even MORE deregulation.
 
2012-09-06 09:19:36 AM
what's with all these wingnutty IBD links all of a sudden?
 
2012-09-06 09:27:35 AM
Obama vastly expanded the welfare state, and now, despite what the "army of media fact-checkers" claims, he's trying to dismantle welfare reform by offering waivers to states who want to weaken those work rules.

Jesus christ with this bullsh*t.
 
2012-09-06 09:29:42 AM

propasaurus: Here's the thing about the attacks on Clinton over Glas-Steagall. The right wing is beating this drum furiously today. 'Clinton is bad because he deregulated. Why don't you liberals hate him for deregulation which caused this economic problem?'

Wait, so NOW the right wing is against deregulation? Liberals KNOW deregulation is bad, and can point to Glass-Steagall as proof. But the right is calling for even MORE deregulation.


I've always said that was his downfall and that our economic crisis is not Bush's fault. And, you are absolutely correct: Deregulation is bad, but according to the Right Wing, the left is so inexperienced at it, they are doing it wrong.

Talking with a friend over the weekend, he wants Romney in office, because he has business experience. I pointed out his ONLY business experience is the dismantling of companies, then letting them die on the vine, which isn't so good business practices. His defense was: it takes a savvy businessman to concoct these plans and work the system to run away with all that money, strapping the dying company with all the debt. Obama doesn't have that kind of fiscal knowledge. I retorted those are NOT good business practices, and it's ALL he knows how to do, he has no practice or experience outside of that realm, and it's dangerous for someone with only that kind of knowledge to run our country.
 
2012-09-06 09:30:10 AM
he hasn't committed adultery?
 
2012-09-06 09:33:30 AM

ManateeGag: he hasn't committed adultery?


That we know of. ;)
 
2012-09-06 09:33:47 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Obama vastly expanded the welfare state, and now, despite what the "army of media fact-checkers" claims, he's trying to dismantle welfare reform by offering waivers to states who want to weaken those work rules.

Jesus christ with this bullsh*t.


they abandoned Jesus Christ a long time ago.
 
2012-09-06 09:36:15 AM
18) He's a better president.
 
2012-09-06 09:38:04 AM

HST's Dead Carcass: Cythraul: FTA: • Deregulation. Clinton signed a sweeping banking deregulation bill that overturned Depression-era banking rules. Obama complained about that law when running for president, and signed a sweeping re-regulation bill once in office.

Yeah, and look where that left us.

I don't understand the current love-affair with Clinton from my fellow Democrats. Maybe it's a rose-colored-glasses-looking-into-the-past thing. But just some of the things he did were to sign in DADT, and DOMA. And those are just the social issues that he 'compromised' on.

I get it, he was supposedly good at cooperating with Republicans to make government work. But sometimes, I think it took it way too far.

I totally agree with this, as it's true. Clinton caused our financial meltdown by enacting all of this. Bush never bothered to fix it, though it became a HUGE issue, and tried to hide it till he got out of office. The timebomb went off a few month too early though.

Or perhaps, that was Rove's plan: Hide it as long as possible so the next President (who was undoubtedly going to be Obama) would take the brunt of it on his chin. Of course, according to Right Wingers, there was nothing wrong with the economy until January 2009. The it was a catastrophe because the President was near and not doing anything.


Hell yeah the economy was great! Just look at gas prices on inauguration day compared to now.
 
2012-09-06 09:40:01 AM

ManateeGag: they abandoned Jesus Christ a long time ago.


The Right has reinvented him into White Jesus TM, and he is an asskicking, gun toting mean some biatch, with an Intimidator baseball cap and outright derision for socialized medicine and welfare.

They realized: Jesus can't come down and defend himself, nor can he correct their reinvention, so they started using his name to enact what they wanted, rebuilding him into a rich minded individual and stating he's against all the things the New Testament said he stood for by handpicking verses that support their statement, and at all times, they'll misrepresent the quote or omit the keywords that would change the basis of the statement.

White Jesus TM save us all!
 
2012-09-06 09:41:09 AM

Krymson Tyde: Hell yeah the economy was great! Just look at gas prices on inauguration day compared to now.


That's because everyone in office (including left wingers) were getting huge kickbacks from the Oil Companies.
 
2012-09-06 09:42:07 AM

HST's Dead Carcass: ManateeGag: they abandoned Jesus Christ a long time ago.

The Right has reinvented him into White Jesus TM, and he is an asskicking, gun toting mean some biatch, with an Intimidator baseball cap and outright derision for socialized medicine and welfare.

They realized: Jesus can't come down and defend himself, nor can he correct their reinvention, so they started using his name to enact what they wanted, rebuilding him into a rich minded individual and stating he's against all the things the New Testament said he stood for by handpicking verses that support their statement, and at all times, they'll misrepresent the quote or omit the keywords that would change the basis of the statement.

White Jesus TM save us all!


It worked so well that they also went and invented the myth of Barack Obama, the Black Messiah of liberals as a counterpoint.
 
2012-09-06 09:42:15 AM

Cythraul: I don't understand the current love-affair with Clinton from my fellow Democrats. Maybe it's a rose-colored-glasses-looking-into-the-past thing. But just some of the things he did were to sign in DADT, and DOMA. And those are just the social issues that he 'compromised' on.


Chris Hayes made a very good point about this last night.

Clinton's good things were ephemeral and time-specific, and essentially ended the moment he left office (the economy and peace overseas). His bad things are long-lasting and are policy issues we are still dealing with today or have only recently fixed (DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, failure to fix health care, maybe Welfare Reform based on your perspective).

Obama is the opposite. His bad things are current, but can essentially change on a dime and won't really outlast him by 2016 (one would hope) - the economy stinks. His good things are very long lasting - reforms to education and health care, reversing DADT, Lilly Ledbetter.
 
2012-09-06 09:43:07 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Obama vastly expanded the welfare state, and now, despite what the "army of media fact-checkers" claims, he's trying to dismantle welfare reform by offering waivers to states who want to weaken those work rules.

Jesus christ with this bullsh*t.


I almost, almost can't believe that this ridiculous farking lie is still a thing that people are throwing out there.
 
2012-09-06 09:47:18 AM

Karac: It worked so well that they also went and invented the myth of Barack Obama, the Black Messiah of liberals as a counterpoint.


You're starting to totally understand the Right Wing perspective. Truth and facts mean nothing with an onslaught of what you want to be the truth and facts can just be invented.
 
2012-09-06 10:07:49 AM
Oil dipped below 10 bucks a barrel while Clinton was in office. Not that he had anything to do with it. But the economy seemed to love it.
 
2012-09-06 10:32:18 AM

James!: 1. White
2. Not Married to Hillary
3. Wasn't President from 1992-2000
4. Not from Arkansas
5. Has two daughters instead of one


6. Republicans seem to LOVE Bill Clinton...wait, what?
 
2012-09-06 10:38:46 AM

Lionel Mandrake: James!: 1. White
2. Not Married to Hillary
3. Wasn't President from 1992-2000
4. Not from Arkansas
5. Has two daughters instead of one

6. Republicans seem to LOVE Bill Clinton...wait, what?



I really can't put my finger on what is coloring their opinion of Obama... They like Clinton, Obama's policies are very similar to Clinton's... 
 
2012-09-06 11:17:02 AM

HST's Dead Carcass: Krymson Tyde: Hell yeah the economy was great! Just look at gas prices on inauguration day compared to now.

That's because everyone in office (including left wingers) were getting huge kickbacks from the Oil Companies.


Also, fuel prices took a huge plunge after the market crash, only to go back up to ridiculous levels within a few months.

In other words, that talking point comes from a cherry-picked outlier, which should come as no surprise.
 
2012-09-06 11:18:49 AM

James!: 1. White
2. Not Married to Hillary
3. Wasn't President from 1992-2000
4. Not from Arkansas
5. Has two daughters instead of one


Good list. Give that man a cigar!

No...not that one. A fresh one.
 
2012-09-06 11:24:22 AM
Hey, as long as he's no Mitt Romney.
 
2012-09-06 11:24:24 AM

I_Am_Weasel: James!: 1. White
2. Not Married to Hillary
3. Wasn't President from 1992-2000
4. Not from Arkansas
5. Has two daughters instead of one

Good list. Give that man a cigar!

No...not that one. A fresh one.



Bill Clinton can feel your pain or bush.
Barack Obama can blame your pain on Bush.
 
2012-09-06 11:25:22 AM

I_C_Weener: Barack Obama can blame your pain on Bush.


Justifiably so.
 
2012-09-06 11:30:01 AM

I_C_Weener: I_Am_Weasel: James!: 1. White
2. Not Married to Hillary
3. Wasn't President from 1992-2000
4. Not from Arkansas
5. Has two daughters instead of one

Good list. Give that man a cigar!

No...not that one. A fresh one.


Bill Clinton can feel your pain or bush.
Barack Obama can blame your pain on Bush.


That wasn't nearly as clever as you think
 
2012-09-06 11:33:12 AM

Cythraul: I don't understand the current love-affair with Clinton from my fellow Democrats. Maybe it's a rose-colored-glasses-looking-into-the-past thing. But just some of the things he did were to sign in DADT, and DOMA. And those are just the social issues that he 'compromised' on.


Clinton's administration must be viewed in the proper context, and 20 years on, it's obvious it wasn't quite as perfect as people thought at the time. One reason that the economy was so good at the time was because capital was pouring into the US due to the collapse of the Asian stock markets, which began fueling the massive credit bubble that financed the dot com and mortgage bubbles. But while Clinton did sign the legislation to repeal Glass-Steagal, it was Phill Graham who wrote the legislation, and that after Reagan and Bush I had spent 12 years dismantling it. By the time Clinton signed the legislation, Glass-Steagal had become a toothless regulation anyway. Larry Summers deserves nothing but scorn for his role in setting up the mortgage crisis though. It stoill rankles me that he has such an important role in Obama's administration.
 
2012-09-06 11:35:53 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Obama vastly expanded the welfare state, and now, despite what the "army of media fact-checkers" claims, he's trying to dismantle welfare reform by offering waivers to states who want to weaken those work rules.

Jesus christ with this bullsh*t.


Seriously. There is literally not a word in this sentence that isn't the polar opposite of the truth.
 
2012-09-06 11:37:01 AM

Lando Lincoln: I_C_Weener: Barack Obama can blame your pain on Bush.

Justifiably so.



Well, republicans in general are to blame.  The whole "He just blames Bush" thing is just an attempt to make Bush the sin eater for the entire republican party.  The whole party is responsible, but if they can make the argument about just Bush it's easy to say "well he doesn't work here anymore".
 
2012-09-06 11:37:29 AM

Lionel Mandrake: That wasn't nearly as clever as you think



Ok.  But true.
 
2012-09-06 11:42:02 AM

I_C_Weener: Lionel Mandrake: That wasn't nearly as clever as you think


Ok.  But true.



You know, whenever democrats bring up the mess Obama inherited, you guys fall back on this reflexive response, as if there is nothing to blame Bush for.

If Bush was so blameless, why wasn't he front and center -- or hell, even mentioned -- at the RNC convention?
 
2012-09-06 11:45:34 AM

gilgigamesh: I_C_Weener: Lionel Mandrake: That wasn't nearly as clever as you think


Ok.  But true.


You know, whenever democrats bring up the mess Obama inherited, you guys fall back on this reflexive response, as if there is nothing to blame Bush for.

If Bush was so blameless, why wasn't he front and center -- or hell, even mentioned -- at the RNC convention?



i586.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-06 11:47:24 AM

I_C_Weener: gilgigamesh: I_C_Weener: Lionel Mandrake: That wasn't nearly as clever as you think


Ok.  But true.


You know, whenever democrats bring up the mess Obama inherited, you guys fall back on this reflexive response, as if there is nothing to blame Bush for.

If Bush was so blameless, why wasn't he front and center -- or hell, even mentioned -- at the RNC convention?


[i586.photobucket.com image 647x412]


You didn't answer my question.
 
2012-09-06 11:48:13 AM
As I stated in another thread: Clinton's speech freaked the RW out in a major way.

Now they've seen into the abyss...and it is not good for them.
 
2012-09-06 11:49:33 AM

James!: Lionel Mandrake: James!: 1. White
2. Not Married to Hillary
3. Wasn't President from 1992-2000
4. Not from Arkansas
5. Has two daughters instead of one

6. Republicans seem to LOVE Bill Clinton...wait, what?


I really can't put my finger on what is coloring their opinion of Obama... They like Clinton, Obama's policies are very similar to Clinton's...


Me too. I'm trying to find the connection there but I keep drawing a black ...er blank.
 
2012-09-06 11:49:50 AM

I_C_Weener: [i586.photobucket.com image 647x412]


Well, that's true as well. He'll still have to deal with Congressional Republicans that behave like four-year-olds that had their candy taken away from them. Quite the mess.
 
2012-09-06 11:51:07 AM

Cythraul: FTA: • Deregulation. Clinton signed a sweeping banking deregulation bill that overturned Depression-era banking rules. Obama complained about that law when running for president, and signed a sweeping re-regulation bill once in office.

Yeah, and look where that left us.

I don't understand the current love-affair with Clinton from my fellow Democrats. Maybe it's a rose-colored-glasses-looking-into-the-past thing. But just some of the things he did were to sign in DADT, and DOMA. And those are just the social issues that he 'compromised' on.

I get it, he was supposedly good at cooperating with Republicans to make government work. But sometimes, I think it took it way too far.


Here's the thing: Clinton was a centrist conservative. Obama is a centrist conservative. The Democrats are a centrist conservative party. The Democrats have a liberal wing, true, and they are the far more palatable option to the liberal mind, but if you think that they're liberal on a national level, you have no clue.

As it happens, banking regulation is one area that would have benefitted from a little liberal thought.
 
2012-09-06 11:51:13 AM
Obama has accomplished more at this point in his Presidency
 
2012-09-06 11:53:08 AM
It wasn't so long ago when conservatives thought Bill was the Spawn of Satan.
 
2012-09-06 11:53:21 AM

gilgigamesh: I_C_Weener: gilgigamesh: I_C_Weener: Lionel Mandrake: That wasn't nearly as clever as you think


Ok.  But true.


You know, whenever democrats bring up the mess Obama inherited, you guys fall back on this reflexive response, as if there is nothing to blame Bush for.

If Bush was so blameless, why wasn't he front and center -- or hell, even mentioned -- at the RNC convention?


[i586.photobucket.com image 647x412]

You didn't answer my question.


I don't know.  Have you asked someone in charge of the RNC?
 
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