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(Politico)   The 15 best lines from Bill Clinton's speech last night. "Democracy does not have to be a bloodsport. It can be an honest enterprise." Looks like he hasn't spent a lot of time in the Politics tab though   (politico.com) divider line 51
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2012-09-06 09:29:48 AM
5 votes:
13. "Now people ask me all the time, how we go four surplus budgets in a row. What new ideas did we bring to Washington? I always give a one word answer: Arithmetic."

Easily the best line from the speech.

His speech really dispelled the notion that Clinton was going to Eastwood his appearance. They didn't need to release the Biden, they just loosed Clinton doing what he does best: connect with folks and show what a Centerist approach looks like, in living color.
2012-09-06 10:23:11 AM
4 votes:

andersoncouncil42: Modern arithmetic came from India and Persia.


You know what India and Persia contributed to arithmetic? Zero! That's what!


/and positional notation
2012-09-06 10:20:41 AM
4 votes:
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2012-09-06 09:52:29 AM
4 votes:

vernonFL: "people ask me all the time, how we go four surplus budgets in a row. What new ideas did we bring to Washington? I always give a one word answer: Arithmetic."

Is it Ironic that the Greeks "invented" arithmetic 5000 years ago and now they are bankrupt? Just sayin'.


The first examples are from 20,000 years ago in Africa. Modern arithmetic came from India and Persia.

/Just sayin'
2012-09-06 09:04:05 AM
4 votes:
Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.
2012-09-06 10:21:09 AM
3 votes:

StopLurkListen: Citrate1007: "So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!

Zeeee-ro.

The way he said 'zero' made it a great bit.

Zeeee-ro.


Clinton has the sort of audience participatory style you really don't see often in politics. The way he speaks invites you to finish his sentences as he does, which is a powerful way to argue.
2012-09-06 09:41:28 AM
3 votes:

Serious Black: "I would recommend to my friend Paul [Begala] here, tonight when everybody leaves, lock the doors. You don't have to come back tomorrow. This convention is done. This will be the moment that probably re-elected Barack Obama. Bill Clinton saved the Democratic Party once, it was going to far left, he came in, the new democrats took it to the center. He did it again tonight." - Alex Castellanos, GOP strategist


This is an accurate assesment, IMHO. The Dhimmycraps are now occupying the left, center, and center right. All the GOP has left is the fringes.
2012-09-06 08:26:31 AM
3 votes:
Clinton passionately explains right and wrong and cites facts. Republicans point fingers and keep lying, or bring up interns and move goalposts.
2012-09-06 10:24:14 AM
2 votes:
The best lines from presidents speaking at the RNC Convention:

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2012-09-06 10:12:50 AM
2 votes:

vernonFL: Clinton gave a great speech, but I was struck by how he is aging. Didn't he have a quadruple bypass or something? It shows.


The Presidency ages you prematurely.

Obama had no grey in his hair before 2008. Now he's looking a lot like Nelson Mandela.
2012-09-06 10:12:24 AM
2 votes:

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


The spin machine is strong with you.

Bill Clinton showed that Obama is on the right path, the GOP is obstructing progress, and that Obama's policies are better for the nation. That's why he should be president. And it's not Clinton's task to talk about the future, it's Obama's. You probably didn't hear it because of the buildup of bullsh*t in your brain.
2012-09-06 09:57:38 AM
2 votes:

randomjsa: If he wants politics to be civil perhaps he should talk to the people in the audience first.


He gave a speech to them last night.
2012-09-06 09:44:42 AM
2 votes:

Mugato: Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.


Idiocracy was on TV recently and I caught a large chunk of it. Why do I get the feeling a lot of it was based on watching Fox News?
2012-09-06 09:40:26 AM
2 votes:
fark.upi.com

"You smooth motherfarker" "I know"
2012-09-06 09:39:36 AM
2 votes:

hubiestubert: 13. "Now people ask me all the time, how we go four surplus budgets in a row. What new ideas did we bring to Washington? I always give a one word answer: Arithmetic."

Easily the best line from the speech.

His speech really dispelled the notion that Clinton was going to Eastwood his appearance. They didn't need to release the Biden, they just loosed Clinton doing what he does best: connect with folks and show what a Centerist approach looks like, in living color.


Good one but I like the Ryan having brass line. That was a uppercut that is hard to recover from.
2012-09-06 09:37:51 AM
2 votes:
"I would recommend to my friend Paul [Begala] here, tonight when everybody leaves, lock the doors. You don't have to come back tomorrow. This convention is done. This will be the moment that probably re-elected Barack Obama. Bill Clinton saved the Democratic Party once, it was going to far left, he came in, the new democrats took it to the center. He did it again tonight." - Alex Castellanos, GOP strategist
2012-09-06 09:37:14 AM
2 votes:
I can't find it today in the transcripts because it was an ad libbed line, so here it is to the best of my recollection.

"I want to nominate a man, especially after last night, who had the good sense to marry Michelle Obama!"

Tell us Willy, what happened last night!

/giggity
2012-09-06 09:18:13 AM
2 votes:

Cythraul: Mugato: Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.

Too my facts that people can't understand? He seemed to dumb down complex economic policy pretty well to me. Jeezie Chreezie, if Americans couldn't understand what he was saying, we sure are a dumb lot.


Never underestimate how stupid people can be.
2012-09-06 09:11:09 AM
2 votes:

Mugato: Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.


Too my facts that people can't understand? He seemed to dumb down complex economic policy pretty well to me. Jeezie Chreezie, if Americans couldn't understand what he was saying, we sure are a dumb lot.
2012-09-06 11:13:37 AM
1 votes:

bdub77: Political discourse is worse than it was in 1994. There was no Tea Party Koch Brothers fantasy Congressional draft going on. The Fox News Republican Talking Points spin machine didn't exist, neither did the internet, fact checkers, the 24 hour news cycle, reality crap. A lot has changed media wise since then, and a lot has changed within the GOP since then. Certainly there was a socially conservative agenda back then, certainly the same trickle down crap applied, but Clinton was successful because there was no Grover Norquist Tax Pledge, there were far fewer people in power who believe that women's bodies contain a magical rape repellant. And you certainly didn't have the covert racism that exists between Obama and the mostly white representatives of Congress.


You must be younger than I am, and I'm only 30. Your history is slightly off:

-Grover Norquist's Americans for Prosperity was founded - at the behest of Ronald Reagan - in 1985; the tax pledge was initially drafted in either 1988 or 1990 (source).
-there were plenty of people in Congress who believed in that stupid biological claptrap - do you think it spawned on the Senate locker room floor one night? Know-nothing conservatives have been fed lies by the people who'd rather they not know the truth (because the truth is Satanic and also makes you have sex). And even if they didn't buy this particular line about rape-baby protection, there were many, many others - welfare queens, black people were simply not as smart (yeah, in 1990), faith can save the economy, trickle-down economics...
-racism in Congress in the early 90s was, by today's standards, at unacceptable levels. I have no specific recall, but if Strom Thurmond sat in that chamber next to Asa Hutchinson and Trent Lott, you can bet it was there. Ironically, they may have been better at dogwhistling.

The 24-hour news cycle arguably started with the advent of CNN in 1985. Fox News didn't get going until 1996, though, so you're not wrong. Also, I'd say that "reality crap" started with MTV's The Real World in 1992, but that's not really relevant.
2012-09-06 11:01:28 AM
1 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: sprawl15: vernonFL: Clinton gave a great speech, but I was struck by how he is aging. Didn't he have a quadruple bypass or something? It shows.

They removed an intact Big Mac from his aorta.

I thought it looked like he lost a bit of weight.

For some guy who used to lead the free world he's actually looking pretty good, especially for his age (he is ten years younger than John McCain for example). DC ages you terribly.


I noticed right away that his hands were shaking a lot when he would pause a gesture. Kind of worrying.
2012-09-06 10:59:38 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: I found these two quotes from the "best of" quite interesting:

"One reason we need to reelect President Obama is he is still committed to constructive cooperation."

"Though I often disagree with Republicans, I actually never learned to hate them the way the far right that now controls their party seems to hate our president and a lot of other Democrats."

Clinton was hated with a passion by the right wing. To the point of them launching repeated "Right Wing Conspiracies" against him, according to Hillary.

They impeached him, for fark's sake. On a most personal level, they embarrassed him horribly, if he's capable of embarrassment. They made much of his presidency a running joke.

Yet, Clinton was able to govern. He was able to overcome the Republican Contract With America, an even larger Congressional sea change than Obama experienced in the midterms.

Now somehow, the obstructionist, intransigent Republicans are now to blame for Obama's failure to govern. He may be "committed to constructive cooperation" but that commitment must be in a theoretical way.

Obama's battle lines are hardened. He ratchets up the political rhetoric when bipartisanship is in order. Sure, it is impossible for him to get everything he wants from this Congress but he seems to think the only alternative is to get nothing and use that as an excuse for his failures.


"When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the White House [on the debt deal], I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy." - Speaker of the House John Boehner
2012-09-06 10:47:40 AM
1 votes:

sprawl15: vernonFL: Clinton gave a great speech, but I was struck by how he is aging. Didn't he have a quadruple bypass or something? It shows.

They removed an intact Big Mac from his aorta.


I thought it looked like he lost a bit of weight.

For some guy who used to lead the free world he's actually looking pretty good, especially for his age (he is ten years younger than John McCain for example). DC ages you terribly.
2012-09-06 10:33:08 AM
1 votes:

urbangirl: StopLurkListen: urbangirl: I'm looking for a full video. I thought I saw Obama give sort of a rope-a-dope to clinton as he walked out on to the stage after clinton's speech. it was a great piece of body language. did anybody else see that?

What does 'rope a dope' mean in this context? I saw it and didn't notice anything unusual about his body language.

Dont remember exactly -- it was a fleeting moment. Sort of a quick foot shuffle and a couple of short gut punches, if I remember correctly.


Not exactly a rope-a-dope, which implies that he let Clinton takes inneffectual swings at him in an effort to tire him out...

But yeah, they did exchange playful faux jabs/hooks right at the end, by the look of it. A little "farkin' killed it man." "as farkin' usual, bro. You're up."
2012-09-06 10:33:02 AM
1 votes:
Lessee now, the Arithmetic line? Check. Brass? Check. Zero? Check.
Double down on trickle down? Check. Blood Sport? Check.
Constructive co-operation? Check. Fact checkers? Check.

Good list.

A few honorable mentions as well...

"As another president once said, there they go again."

And..

"Now, when you say, what are you going to do about this $5 trillion you just added on? They say, oh, we'll make it up by eliminating loopholes in the tax code.

So then you ask, well, which loopholes, and how much? You know what they say? See me about that after the election. I'm not making it up. That's their position. See me about that after the election."


And...

Don't you ever forget when you hear them talking about this that Republican economic policies quadrupled the national debt before I took office, in the 12 years before I took office and doubled the debt in the eight years after I left, because it defied arithmetic. It was a highly inconvenient thing for them in our debates that I was just a country boy from Arkansas, and I came from a place where people still thought two and two was four. It's arithmetic.

Romney is probably still curled up into a fetal ball somewhere whimpering after that speech.

Maybe on his Cayman Island flagged yacht.
2012-09-06 10:27:46 AM
1 votes:

StopLurkListen: Citrate1007: "So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!

Zeeee-ro.

The way he said 'zero' made it a great bit.

Zeeee-ro.


Actually, when you factor in how the GOP dropped our credit rating out of nothing but political angst and stood in the way of nearly all jobs creating/retention bills you could argue that they are in the negative.
2012-09-06 10:24:21 AM
1 votes:

bdub77: feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.

The spin machine is strong with you.

Bill Clinton showed that Obama is on the right path, the GOP is obstructing progress, and that Obama's policies are better for the nation. That's why he should be president. And it's not Clinton's task to talk about the future, it's Obama's. You probably didn't hear it because of the buildup of bullsh*t in your brain.


Sigh.

Spin has nothing to do with it. It's rather this: there's simply no comparison between C & O as politicians (and not as speakers, if consistency matters to you), and the speech C gave is evidence of that. Unless O gives the speech of his life when it's his turn (and he's yet to again give a speech nearly at the quality of his '04 speech, so I doubt he will), the contrast will be Sun vs. Moon. In a case such as this, content isn't what matters: letting C do what he does best, before O gets up to speak, only makes the difference that much more apparent. You're focused on content; that's great. It's good that you're paying attention. But most folks aren't, and don't, and that's the point.
2012-09-06 10:23:12 AM
1 votes:

VRaptor117: One thing Bill Clinton didn't talk about: Why hasn't anyone who took part in destroying the economy in 2008 gone to jail? Why hasn't anyone been punished? Because Obama is just as in the tank for the rich and wealthy as Mitt Romney.


Because the republicans have been successful in gutting regulation. So what those people did wasn't actually illegal. Immoral and borderline psychotic, but not illegal.
2012-09-06 10:22:19 AM
1 votes:

PonceAlyosha: StopLurkListen: Citrate1007: "So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!

Zeeee-ro.

The way he said 'zero' made it a great bit.

Zeeee-ro.

Clinton has the sort of audience participatory style you really don't see often in politics. The way he speaks invites you to finish his sentences as he does, which is a powerful way to argue.


Eh, it's a version of preacherman style.
2012-09-06 10:20:02 AM
1 votes:

NateGrey: urbangirl: I'm looking for a full video. I thought I saw Obama give sort of a rope-a-dope to clinton as he walked out on to the stage after clinton's speech. it was a great piece of body language. did anybody else see that?

I..I think I saw this too.

Like two college buddies horse playing.


It kinda made my heart happy.

I was watching on PBS. (Because I'm a condescending elistist.) Checked their video but not close enough to see.
2012-09-06 10:19:36 AM
1 votes:

Epoch_Zero: VRaptor117: One thing Bill Clinton didn't talk about: Why hasn't anyone who took part in destroying the economy in 2008 gone to jail? Why hasn't anyone been punished? Because Obama is just as in the tank for the rich and wealthy as Mitt Romney.

Which is why he's campaigning on raising their taxes, and why he created teh CPA, and signed a bill preventing taxpayer funded bailouts, and has openly come out against those with tax shelters - but yeah, he's totally in their pockets doing their dirty work, Reagan-style. You're so astute.


I would say he's made modest progress in going after the guys who inflated the bubble and created the credit crunch, but there's definitely more he could have done and should do in the future.
2012-09-06 10:14:41 AM
1 votes:

VRaptor117: One thing Bill Clinton didn't talk about: Why hasn't anyone who took part in destroying the economy in 2008 gone to jail? Why hasn't anyone been punished? Because Obama is just as in the tank for the rich and wealthy as Mitt Romney.


Which is why he's campaigning on raising their taxes, and why he created teh CPA, and signed a bill preventing taxpayer funded bailouts, and has openly come out against those with tax shelters - but yeah, he's totally in their pockets doing their dirty work, Reagan-style. You're so astute.
2012-09-06 10:12:55 AM
1 votes:

Rwa2play: Serious Black: "I would recommend to my friend Paul [Begala] here, tonight when everybody leaves, lock the doors. You don't have to come back tomorrow. This convention is done. This will be the moment that probably re-elected Barack Obama. Bill Clinton saved the Democratic Party once, it was going to far left, he came in, the new democrats took it to the center. He did it again tonight." - Alex Castellanos, GOP strategist

Sounds like a backhanded compliment to me.


It could be, but it could also be him realizing that Romney is going to lose and setting the stage for Republicans to realize that it's a lost cause, just like four years ago was.

cubic_spleen: Democrats? Too far Left? EVER??!??!?!!?! Sorry, Alex. The Democrats started to move ever so slightly left of center, and Clinton caught them and moved them back to just right of center. And they've been drifting farther right ever since.

/anyone who thinks there was ever a Liberal bias in this country is too stupid to be allowed to vote.


Yeah, yeah, but the point is that the GOP needs an October surprise to even have a hope of winning at this point.
2012-09-06 10:12:48 AM
1 votes:
@sarahkliff:
Bill Clinton's prepared remarks: 3,136 words. Bill Clinton's remarks as delivered: 5,895 words (counting audience cheers).

President Clinton's speech was historical

/that boys good
2012-09-06 10:12:27 AM
1 votes:

urbangirl: I'm looking for a full video. I thought I saw Obama give sort of a rope-a-dope to clinton as he walked out on to the stage after clinton's speech. it was a great piece of body language. did anybody else see that?


What does 'rope a dope' mean in this context? I saw it and didn't notice anything unusual about his body language.
2012-09-06 10:10:26 AM
1 votes:

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


Clearly you didn't watch the speech.
2012-09-06 10:09:14 AM
1 votes:

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


Are you stupid? Serious question.
2012-09-06 10:05:15 AM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-09-06 10:04:25 AM
1 votes:

Zerochance: Considering Clinton answered a bunch of tired-ass, moronic taking points in a similar manner a FARKer would, I'd say he DOES spend a lot of time in the politics tab.


Yeah, we Farkers are a pretty sharp bunch. We take out the trash, and fast.
2012-09-06 10:03:34 AM
1 votes:

randomjsa: If he wants politics to be civil perhaps he should talk to the people in the audience first.

Particularly the lady who said she wanted to kill Mitt Romney.


So, we are all worried about civility now? We'll get right on that once we receive a written apology from the RNC for all that birther nonsense. Man up buttercup, it's going to be a fun few months!
2012-09-06 10:02:56 AM
1 votes:
Best line of Clinton's speech? Macking it to Michelle Obama. He might as well have called her an ebony queen.

Which she is. First FLOTUS to give me a boner.
2012-09-06 09:55:29 AM
1 votes:

Cythraul: Whatever. All I could hear was "DEATH TO ALL REPUBLICANS" from his speech. He's a total wingnut.


www.jonhusby.com

You just nailed exactly what right-wing paranoia sounds like. Bravo.
2012-09-06 09:54:18 AM
1 votes:
ABC showed Rahm Emanuel's face while Clinton was speaking. I'm pretty sure Rahm was thinking, "Damn, that guy's good."
2012-09-06 09:52:44 AM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: PsyLord: If it was truly a bloodsport, I think more people would actually pay attention to the candidates, their positions, and vote.

I'm also fairly certain we wouldn't have a Senate where the average age is over 60.


That's a plus IMO. Also they would definitely welcome term limitations.
2012-09-06 09:50:19 AM
1 votes:

PsyLord: If it was truly a bloodsport, I think more people would actually pay attention to the candidates, their positions, and vote.


I'm also fairly certain we wouldn't have a Senate where the average age is over 60.
2012-09-06 09:45:55 AM
1 votes:
fark.upi.com

I'm so glad I decided to support same-sex couples getting married so I can divorce Michelle and marry you, Bill.
2012-09-06 09:41:33 AM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Via Infinito: Cythraul: Mugato: Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.

Too my facts that people can't understand? He seemed to dumb down complex economic policy pretty well to me. Jeezie Chreezie, if Americans couldn't understand what he was saying, we sure are a dumb lot.

Never misunderestimate how stupid people can be.

FTFY


"No one ever went broke overestimating human stupidity."

"Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the former."

// apologies if I screwed one/both up
// I don't have attributions
2012-09-06 09:41:28 AM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: [fark.upi.com image 301x301]

"You smooth motherfarker" "I know"


"I could kiss you." "Yeah most people say that."
2012-09-06 09:40:21 AM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: His speech really dispelled the notion that Clinton was going to Eastwood his appearance. They didn't need to release the Biden, they just loosed Clinton doing what he does best: connect with folks and show what a Centerist approach looks like, in living color.


WTF was that all about, anyway?

Eastwood goes senile on stage, and the best comeback the right wing had was, "Well, maybe Clinton will do that too!"

No he won't. He's Bill farking Clinton.
2012-09-06 09:21:41 AM
1 votes:

Cythraul: Mugato: Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.

Too my facts that people can't understand? He seemed to dumb down complex economic policy pretty well to me. Jeezie Chreezie, if Americans couldn't understand what he was saying, we sure are a dumb lot.


I'm just reporting back from what I heard Fox News say in the little that I heard. Given their usual audience, they probably have a point.
2012-09-06 08:19:54 AM
1 votes:
Whatever. All I could hear was "DEATH TO ALL REPUBLICANS" from his speech. He's a total wingnut.
 
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