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(Politico)   The 15 best lines from Bill Clinton's speech last night. "Democracy does not have to be a bloodsport. It can be an honest enterprise." Looks like he hasn't spent a lot of time in the Politics tab though   (politico.com) divider line 166
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2012-09-06 10:01:37 AM  
"So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!
 
2012-09-06 10:01:49 AM  

randomjsa: If he wants politics to be civil perhaps he should talk to the people in the audience first.


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Your usual?
 
2012-09-06 10:02:56 AM  
Best line of Clinton's speech? Macking it to Michelle Obama. He might as well have called her an ebony queen.

Which she is. First FLOTUS to give me a boner.
 
2012-09-06 10:03:01 AM  

Cythraul: Mugato: Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.

Too my facts that people can't understand? He seemed to dumb down complex economic policy pretty well to me. Jeezie Chreezie, if Americans couldn't understand what he was saying, we sure are a dumb lot.


Not enough for Fox News viewers.....
 
2012-09-06 10:03:15 AM  

PsyLord: Dr Dreidel: PsyLord: If it was truly a bloodsport, I think more people would actually pay attention to the candidates, their positions, and vote.

I'm also fairly certain we wouldn't have a Senate where the average age is over 60.

That's a plus IMO. Also they would definitely welcome term limitations.


It would also make President Camacho that much more likely. But I'm not so sure they'd want term limits. We'd see a lot more voluntary retirements, and not a few deaths-in-office (or resigned-due-to-injury/coma), but the egotists in office would DEFINITELY not be happy about not being able to defend their belts.

// oh yeah, instead of holding Congressional "seats", they'd be "belts"
 
2012-09-06 10:03:34 AM  

randomjsa: If he wants politics to be civil perhaps he should talk to the people in the audience first.

Particularly the lady who said she wanted to kill Mitt Romney.


So, we are all worried about civility now? We'll get right on that once we receive a written apology from the RNC for all that birther nonsense. Man up buttercup, it's going to be a fun few months!
 
2012-09-06 10:04:25 AM  

Zerochance: Considering Clinton answered a bunch of tired-ass, moronic taking points in a similar manner a FARKer would, I'd say he DOES spend a lot of time in the politics tab.


Yeah, we Farkers are a pretty sharp bunch. We take out the trash, and fast.
 
2012-09-06 10:04:32 AM  

randomjsa: If he wants politics to be civil perhaps he should talk to the people in the audience first.

Particularly the lady who said she wanted to kill Mitt Romney.


YOU. GOT. NOTHIN'.
 
2012-09-06 10:04:33 AM  

Citrate1007: Cythraul: Mugato: Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.

Too my facts that people can't understand? He seemed to dumb down complex economic policy pretty well to me. Jeezie Chreezie, if Americans couldn't understand what he was saying, we sure are a dumb lot.

Not enough for Fox News viewers.....


Heh, you think Clinton was aiming for Fox News viewers anyway? ;)
 
2012-09-06 10:04:54 AM  

Zerochance: First FLOTUS to give me a boner.


FLOTUSILF

// stolen from someone else
// I like tall women
// IN A TOTALLY UNRELATED STORY - anyone notice that the older of the Obama girls is almost Michelle's height, ~5'10ish?
 
2012-09-06 10:05:00 AM  

Alphax: Zerochance: Considering Clinton answered a bunch of tired-ass, moronic taking points in a similar manner a FARKer would, I'd say he DOES spend a lot of time in the politics tab.

Yeah, we Farkers are a pretty sharp bunch. We take out the trash, and fast.


If this were true, Corvus wouldn't be around.
 
2012-09-06 10:05:15 AM  
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2012-09-06 10:05:46 AM  

Serious Black: "I would recommend to my friend Paul [Begala] here, tonight when everybody leaves, lock the doors. You don't have to come back tomorrow. This convention is done. This will be the moment that probably re-elected Barack Obama. Bill Clinton saved the Democratic Party once, it was going to far left, he came in, the new democrats took it to the center. He did it again tonight." - Alex Castellanos, GOP strategist


Democrats? Too far Left? EVER??!??!?!!?! Sorry, Alex. The Democrats started to move ever so slightly left of center, and Clinton caught them and moved them back to just right of center. And they've been drifting farther right ever since.

/anyone who thinks there was ever a Liberal bias in this country is too stupid to be allowed to vote.
 
2012-09-06 10:06:11 AM  

Zerochance: Considering Clinton answered a bunch of tired-ass, moronic taking points in a similar manner a FARKer would, I'd say he DOES spend a lot of time in the politics tab.


I did hear Chris Hayes say "Don't feed the trolls" last night.

/my bet is that he's actually sprawl15
 
2012-09-06 10:06:15 AM  

Alphax: Zerochance: Considering Clinton answered a bunch of tired-ass, moronic taking points in a similar manner a FARKer would, I'd say he DOES spend a lot of time in the politics tab.

Yeah, we Farkers are a pretty sharp bunch. We take out the trash, and fast.


This.
 
2012-09-06 10:06:59 AM  

urbangirl: I'm looking for a full video. I thought I saw Obama give sort of a rope-a-dope to clinton as he walked out on to the stage after clinton's speech. it was a great piece of body language. did anybody else see that?


I..I think I saw this too.

Like two college buddies horse playing.
 
2012-09-06 10:08:05 AM  
The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.
 
2012-09-06 10:09:14 AM  

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


Are you stupid? Serious question.
 
2012-09-06 10:10:13 AM  
One thing Bill Clinton didn't talk about: Why hasn't anyone who took part in destroying the economy in 2008 gone to jail? Why hasn't anyone been punished? Because Obama is just as in the tank for the rich and wealthy as Mitt Romney.
 
2012-09-06 10:10:26 AM  

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


Clearly you didn't watch the speech.
 
2012-09-06 10:10:59 AM  

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent.


I'd say that's more of a problem for Romney, considering he's been successfully portrayed as a Bush rehash, and Bush wasn't even invited to the convention.

Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.

This wasn't a Christie or Rubio speech.
 
2012-09-06 10:11:28 AM  

randomjsa: If he wants politics to be civil perhaps he should talk to the people in the audience first.

Particularly the lady who said she wanted to kill Mitt Romney.


NO REPUBLICAN HAS EVER THREATENED THE LIFE OF A DEMOCRAT.

ALL DEMOCRAT LIBERALS ARE VIOLENT THUGS WHO OUGHT TO BE PUT DOWN.
 
2012-09-06 10:12:24 AM  

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


The spin machine is strong with you.

Bill Clinton showed that Obama is on the right path, the GOP is obstructing progress, and that Obama's policies are better for the nation. That's why he should be president. And it's not Clinton's task to talk about the future, it's Obama's. You probably didn't hear it because of the buildup of bullsh*t in your brain.
 
2012-09-06 10:12:27 AM  

urbangirl: I'm looking for a full video. I thought I saw Obama give sort of a rope-a-dope to clinton as he walked out on to the stage after clinton's speech. it was a great piece of body language. did anybody else see that?


What does 'rope a dope' mean in this context? I saw it and didn't notice anything unusual about his body language.
 
2012-09-06 10:12:39 AM  

Epoch_Zero: Zerochance: Considering Clinton answered a bunch of tired-ass, moronic taking points in a similar manner a FARKer would, I'd say he DOES spend a lot of time in the politics tab.

I did hear Chris Hayes say "Don't feed the trolls" last night.

/my bet is that he's actually sprawl15


Please, I wouldn't name my after a children's movie that opens with an abortion and closes with an old man going homeless.
 
2012-09-06 10:12:48 AM  
@sarahkliff:
Bill Clinton's prepared remarks: 3,136 words. Bill Clinton's remarks as delivered: 5,895 words (counting audience cheers).

President Clinton's speech was historical

/that boys good
 
2012-09-06 10:12:50 AM  

vernonFL: Clinton gave a great speech, but I was struck by how he is aging. Didn't he have a quadruple bypass or something? It shows.


The Presidency ages you prematurely.

Obama had no grey in his hair before 2008. Now he's looking a lot like Nelson Mandela.
 
2012-09-06 10:12:55 AM  

Rwa2play: Serious Black: "I would recommend to my friend Paul [Begala] here, tonight when everybody leaves, lock the doors. You don't have to come back tomorrow. This convention is done. This will be the moment that probably re-elected Barack Obama. Bill Clinton saved the Democratic Party once, it was going to far left, he came in, the new democrats took it to the center. He did it again tonight." - Alex Castellanos, GOP strategist

Sounds like a backhanded compliment to me.


It could be, but it could also be him realizing that Romney is going to lose and setting the stage for Republicans to realize that it's a lost cause, just like four years ago was.

cubic_spleen: Democrats? Too far Left? EVER??!??!?!!?! Sorry, Alex. The Democrats started to move ever so slightly left of center, and Clinton caught them and moved them back to just right of center. And they've been drifting farther right ever since.

/anyone who thinks there was ever a Liberal bias in this country is too stupid to be allowed to vote.


Yeah, yeah, but the point is that the GOP needs an October surprise to even have a hope of winning at this point.
 
2012-09-06 10:14:41 AM  

VRaptor117: One thing Bill Clinton didn't talk about: Why hasn't anyone who took part in destroying the economy in 2008 gone to jail? Why hasn't anyone been punished? Because Obama is just as in the tank for the rich and wealthy as Mitt Romney.


Which is why he's campaigning on raising their taxes, and why he created teh CPA, and signed a bill preventing taxpayer funded bailouts, and has openly come out against those with tax shelters - but yeah, he's totally in their pockets doing their dirty work, Reagan-style. You're so astute.
 
2012-09-06 10:18:57 AM  

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


So Clinton didn't Eastwood the DNC, he Christied it?

I must have missed that part.
 
2012-09-06 10:19:01 AM  

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


I'd reply in full force, but I sense that you're handicapped so I'll let this one go......
 
2012-09-06 10:19:05 AM  

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


Wat? What speech did you watch?
 
2012-09-06 10:19:22 AM  

Citrate1007: "So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!


Zeeee-ro.

The way he said 'zero' made it a great bit.

Zeeee-ro.
 
2012-09-06 10:19:36 AM  

Epoch_Zero: VRaptor117: One thing Bill Clinton didn't talk about: Why hasn't anyone who took part in destroying the economy in 2008 gone to jail? Why hasn't anyone been punished? Because Obama is just as in the tank for the rich and wealthy as Mitt Romney.

Which is why he's campaigning on raising their taxes, and why he created teh CPA, and signed a bill preventing taxpayer funded bailouts, and has openly come out against those with tax shelters - but yeah, he's totally in their pockets doing their dirty work, Reagan-style. You're so astute.


I would say he's made modest progress in going after the guys who inflated the bubble and created the credit crunch, but there's definitely more he could have done and should do in the future.
 
2012-09-06 10:20:02 AM  

NateGrey: urbangirl: I'm looking for a full video. I thought I saw Obama give sort of a rope-a-dope to clinton as he walked out on to the stage after clinton's speech. it was a great piece of body language. did anybody else see that?

I..I think I saw this too.

Like two college buddies horse playing.


It kinda made my heart happy.

I was watching on PBS. (Because I'm a condescending elistist.) Checked their video but not close enough to see.
 
2012-09-06 10:20:30 AM  

Via Infinito: Cythraul: Mugato: Clinton farking killed last night. Even Fox News didn't have anything to say except "It was too long" and "it had too many facts that people can't understand". Romney is probably still holed up in his volcano lair crying.

Too my facts that people can't understand? He seemed to dumb down complex economic policy pretty well to me. Jeezie Chreezie, if Americans couldn't understand what he was saying, we sure are a dumb lot.

Never underestimate how stupid people can be.


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2012-09-06 10:20:41 AM  
fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net
 
2012-09-06 10:21:09 AM  

StopLurkListen: Citrate1007: "So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!

Zeeee-ro.

The way he said 'zero' made it a great bit.

Zeeee-ro.


Clinton has the sort of audience participatory style you really don't see often in politics. The way he speaks invites you to finish his sentences as he does, which is a powerful way to argue.
 
2012-09-06 10:21:55 AM  

StopLurkListen: Citrate1007: "So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!

Zeeee-ro.

The way he said 'zero' made it a great bit.

Zeeee-ro.


users.content.ytmnd.com
 
2012-09-06 10:22:19 AM  

PonceAlyosha: StopLurkListen: Citrate1007: "So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!

Zeeee-ro.

The way he said 'zero' made it a great bit.

Zeeee-ro.

Clinton has the sort of audience participatory style you really don't see often in politics. The way he speaks invites you to finish his sentences as he does, which is a powerful way to argue.


Eh, it's a version of preacherman style.
 
2012-09-06 10:23:11 AM  

andersoncouncil42: Modern arithmetic came from India and Persia.


You know what India and Persia contributed to arithmetic? Zero! That's what!


/and positional notation
 
2012-09-06 10:23:12 AM  

VRaptor117: One thing Bill Clinton didn't talk about: Why hasn't anyone who took part in destroying the economy in 2008 gone to jail? Why hasn't anyone been punished? Because Obama is just as in the tank for the rich and wealthy as Mitt Romney.


Because the republicans have been successful in gutting regulation. So what those people did wasn't actually illegal. Immoral and borderline psychotic, but not illegal.
 
2012-09-06 10:24:14 AM  
The best lines from presidents speaking at the RNC Convention:

1. "..."
2. "..."
3. "..."
 
2012-09-06 10:24:21 AM  

bdub77: feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.

The spin machine is strong with you.

Bill Clinton showed that Obama is on the right path, the GOP is obstructing progress, and that Obama's policies are better for the nation. That's why he should be president. And it's not Clinton's task to talk about the future, it's Obama's. You probably didn't hear it because of the buildup of bullsh*t in your brain.


Sigh.

Spin has nothing to do with it. It's rather this: there's simply no comparison between C & O as politicians (and not as speakers, if consistency matters to you), and the speech C gave is evidence of that. Unless O gives the speech of his life when it's his turn (and he's yet to again give a speech nearly at the quality of his '04 speech, so I doubt he will), the contrast will be Sun vs. Moon. In a case such as this, content isn't what matters: letting C do what he does best, before O gets up to speak, only makes the difference that much more apparent. You're focused on content; that's great. It's good that you're paying attention. But most folks aren't, and don't, and that's the point.
 
2012-09-06 10:25:33 AM  

imontheinternet: The best lines from presidents speaking at the RNC Convention:

1. "..."
2. "..."
3. "..."


I assume they all came from Invisible Obama?
 
2012-09-06 10:26:31 AM  

StopLurkListen: urbangirl: I'm looking for a full video. I thought I saw Obama give sort of a rope-a-dope to clinton as he walked out on to the stage after clinton's speech. it was a great piece of body language. did anybody else see that?

What does 'rope a dope' mean in this context? I saw it and didn't notice anything unusual about his body language.


Dont remember exactly -- it was a fleeting moment. Sort of a quick foot shuffle and a couple of short gut punches, if I remember correctly.
 
2012-09-06 10:27:46 AM  

StopLurkListen: Citrate1007: "So here's another jobs score: President Obama plus 4.5 million, congressional Republicans zero."

Oh Snap!

Zeeee-ro.

The way he said 'zero' made it a great bit.

Zeeee-ro.


Actually, when you factor in how the GOP dropped our credit rating out of nothing but political angst and stood in the way of nearly all jobs creating/retention bills you could argue that they are in the negative.
 
2012-09-06 10:28:28 AM  
ZEE ROH!
 
2012-09-06 10:29:24 AM  

feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.


Quotes 4, 5, 6, and 7 directly state reasons that Obama should be elected president.

I'd go on, but I'm pretty sure you can't read.
 
2012-09-06 10:31:10 AM  

feanorn: bdub77: feanorn: The problem for the Ds is the contrast between the past president & the incumbent. Clinton gave a speech showing why he ought to be the party's candidate; little was done to show why the current occupant of the White House should be the candidate.

The spin machine is strong with you.

Bill Clinton showed that Obama is on the right path, the GOP is obstructing progress, and that Obama's policies are better for the nation. That's why he should be president. And it's not Clinton's task to talk about the future, it's Obama's. You probably didn't hear it because of the buildup of bullsh*t in your brain.

Sigh.

Spin has nothing to do with it. It's rather this: there's simply no comparison between C & O as politicians (and not as speakers, if consistency matters to you), and the speech C gave is evidence of that. Unless O gives the speech of his life when it's his turn (and he's yet to again give a speech nearly at the quality of his '04 speech, so I doubt he will), the contrast will be Sun vs. Moon. In a case such as this, content isn't what matters: letting C do what he does best, before O gets up to speak, only makes the difference that much more apparent. You're focused on content; that's great. It's good that you're paying attention. But most folks aren't, and don't, and that's the point.


What's your argument here? Your opening comment was all about content and now you're saying content doesn't matter. Can't have both.
 
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