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2012-09-06 08:06:20 AM  
Still boggles the mind that a major newspaper actually has Jennifer Rubin on its payroll. She might as well be paid by the Romney campaign.
 
2012-09-06 08:09:11 AM  
Came here to say that. Jennifer Rubin is a hack. Occasionally some of the WaPo's conservative columnists, like Will, Krauthammer, or Parker, manage to write something worth reading. Rubin does nothing but recycle right-wing spin.
 
2012-09-06 08:10:04 AM  
"He said a lot of things" is your argument? That's what you're going with?
 
2012-09-06 08:11:44 AM  
Did he get into any arguments with empty chairs?
 
2012-09-06 08:12:02 AM  

Imperialism: "He said a lot of things" is your argument? That's what you're going with?


"He used words and stuff. Then he brought up math and it gave me a headhurt."
 
2012-09-06 08:12:42 AM  
I love the "Obama refused to make deals" thing the right has going on. They must be talking about Invisible Obama again, that guy is apparently a dick.
 
2012-09-06 08:12:57 AM  
And his welfare explanation was, bluntly, incoherent. He claimed that governors wanted waivers to have recipients work more. When he said, "Did I make myself clear?" honest listeners would surely have said, "No!"

Blatant lies here.

From CNN:

So where did the notion of a major welfare reform overhaul come from?
Where it didn't come from is Washington but rather from Utah, Nevada, California, Connecticut and Minnesota.
These states, some with Republican governors, asked the federal government for more flexibility in how they hand out welfare dollars. Their purpose was to spend less time on federal paperwork and more time experimenting with ways to connect welfare recipients with jobs.
The Obama administration cooperated, granting waivers to some states from some of the existing rules.
 
2012-09-06 08:12:59 AM  
An equine may be conducted toward liquid dihydrogen oxide, yet coercive processes may fail to induce bibulation.
 
2012-09-06 08:13:02 AM  

Here Comes Everybody: Came here to say that. Jennifer Rubin is a hack. Occasionally some of the WaPo's conservative columnists, like Will, Krauthammer, or Parker, manage to write something worth reading. Rubin does nothing but recycle right-wing spin.


Not only is it right-wing spin, it's a very specific niche of right wing spin. It has to be either (1) unflinchingly pro-Romney, or (2) unflinchingly pro-Israel. She'll gladly tear down other Republicans if they're not in lockstep with either of those two goals. Even within the spectrum of miserable partisan hacks she's a pure propagandist. I'll be amazed if WaPo doesn't ditch her after the election.
 
2012-09-06 08:13:04 AM  

nekom: Did he get into any arguments with empty chairs?


From what I saw, there wasn't an empty chair in the place.

/Probably not a dry one either.
 
2012-09-06 08:13:08 AM  

Edsel: Still boggles the mind that a major newspaper actually has Jennifer Rubin on its payroll. She might as well be paid by the Romney campaign.


Sometimes I wonder if it's not the source of the conservative "anyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps" myth. They look around at all their conservative columnist buddies and go "well, that person has a good job and we have to wipe away the drool every few minutes. If they can get a job, anyone can."
 
2012-09-06 08:13:34 AM  
He was? He seemed pretty awesome to me.
 
2012-09-06 08:13:59 AM  
Cry some more you cynical, ignorant biatch.
 
2012-09-06 08:16:34 AM  

Cythraul: He was? He seemed pretty awesome to me.


Clinton has never been awesome. Except maybe with the ladies....
 
2012-09-06 08:16:46 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Edsel: Still boggles the mind that a major newspaper actually has Jennifer Rubin on its payroll. She might as well be paid by the Romney campaign.

Sometimes I wonder if it's not the source of the conservative "anyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps" myth. They look around at all their conservative columnist buddies and go "well, that person has a good job and we have to wipe away the drool every few minutes. If they can get a job, anyone can."


You have to admit, right-wing media is a major growth industry and an opportunity for high school grads like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to make big money.
 
2012-09-06 08:16:52 AM  
Someone's trying hard to steal the spotlight from Ryan for biggest liar this month - but this one takes the cake:

"After listening to him march through endless policy details, the crowd in Charlotte seemed to tire.."

Really? The GOP would murder small children on national tv if they could get half as much enthusiasm as the crowd had 40 minutes into that speech. She might as well have claimed that Clinton endorsed Romney with the amount of spin and delusion in that breakdown.
 
2012-09-06 08:17:11 AM  
Look, I know that the hacks on the right need to put out material on the DNC. But this is weak. Ryan and Romney gave us plenty of ammo, they just didn't tell some out of context quotes or a few misleading statements, like we see here, they lied like a machine gun. Ryan's speech was basically one blatant lie after another.

Clinton did great. He has more charisma in his little finger than Romney and Ryan have together.
 
2012-09-06 08:17:13 AM  
Obama promised to fix the economy in his first term.

CREDULITY: STRAINED.
 
2012-09-06 08:17:51 AM  
I guessed Krauthammer. Even worse. I can't believe this lame hack still gets paid to produce this kind of verbal vomit. Are there really no decent conservative writers out there? I understand the need for journalistic "balance", but WaPo needs to fire this nutty biatch and hire someone like David Frum, before they lose their last shred of credibility.
 
2012-09-06 08:18:11 AM  
Mean Bill Clinton pointed out all of our horrendous lies on national television. He's just playing the blame game!
 
2012-09-06 08:18:13 AM  
LOL, Rubin.

Rubin brings nothing to the table that Kathryn Jean Lopez doesn't already cover. How sad of a right-wing hack do you have to be to be a pro-Romney hack?
 
2012-09-06 08:19:56 AM  

cc_rider: I guessed Krauthammer. Even worse. I can't believe this lame hack still gets paid to produce this kind of verbal vomit. Are there really no decent conservative writers out there? I understand the need for journalistic "balance", but WaPo needs to fire this nutty biatch and hire someone like David Frum, before they lose their last shred of credibility.


I wouldn't even call them concervative so much as anti-liberal.  That's what all their policy ideas start with.
 
2012-09-06 08:20:18 AM  

king cranium maximus IV: LOL, Rubin.

Rubin brings nothing to the table that Kathryn Jean Lopez doesn't already cover. How sad of a right-wing hack do you have to be to be a pro-Romney hack?


A girl needs to make a living. That boxed wine won't pay for itself.
 
2012-09-06 08:20:21 AM  

trotsky: Look, I know that the hacks on the right need to put out material on the DNC. But this is weak. Ryan and Romney gave us plenty of ammo, they just didn't tell some out of context quotes or a few misleading statements, like we see here, they lied like a machine gun. Ryan's speech was basically one blatant lie after another.

Clinton did great. He has more charisma in his little finger than Romney and Ryan have together.


Just wait, I'm sure we are due for a good half-dozen right wing blog greenlights on what a disaster Clinton's speech was.
 
2012-09-06 08:20:49 AM  

cc_rider: I guessed Krauthammer. Even worse. I can't believe this lame hack still gets paid to produce this kind of verbal vomit. Are there really no decent conservative writers out there? I understand the need for journalistic "balance", but WaPo needs to fire this nutty biatch and hire someone like David Frum, before they lose their last shred of credibility.


Ramesh Ponnuru isn't so bad. But seriously, Rubin is the absolute bottom of the barrel because of her slavish devotion to Romney. Even Limbaugh or Coulter would call Romney out for a position they don't agree with - she'll never do that.
 
2012-09-06 08:21:18 AM  
Does anyone out there NOT see Rubin as a complete journalistic whore selling herself for political relevance?
 
2012-09-06 08:21:36 AM  

Jackson Herring: trotsky: Look, I know that the hacks on the right need to put out material on the DNC. But this is weak. Ryan and Romney gave us plenty of ammo, they just didn't tell some out of context quotes or a few misleading statements, like we see here, they lied like a machine gun. Ryan's speech was basically one blatant lie after another.

Clinton did great. He has more charisma in his little finger than Romney and Ryan have together.

Just wait, I'm sure we are due for a good half-dozen right wing blog greenlights on what a disaster Clinton's speech was.


Bring on the Freepers!
 
2012-09-06 08:22:22 AM  
Expect to see ALOT of Republican whining.

Surprisingly a few Freepers were giving Bill his due, Fark Cons will be fun to watch.
 
2012-09-06 08:25:20 AM  
This column needs some fact checking
 
2012-09-06 08:27:32 AM  
"He did not mention Israel."

i28.photobucket.com

Just STFU already, Jennifer and get back to crapping out your next whiny screed.
 
2012-09-06 08:30:03 AM  

Edsel: Still boggles the mind that a major newspaper actually has Jennifer Rubin on its payroll. She might as well be paid by the Romney campaign.


Because of the modern way "Fair and Balanced" is required. You can have 100 normal reporters citing facts and honestly using quoted, but by golly you better have that right wing derp person whose sole job it is to repeat what they make up on FOX. Or else.

Really is an inspiring thing when we have what amounts to "quota hires" in the media -- we keep giving these 1%ers a voice regardless of how much in the minority they are.
 
2012-09-06 08:31:20 AM  

wraith95: I love the "Obama refused to make deals" thing the right has going on. They must be talking about Invisible Obama again, that guy is apparently a dick.


Faux-rage of the day.
 
2012-09-06 08:31:28 AM  
To put it simply, Clinton's speech was so good he got a crowd of faithful, hyper-partisan Democrats to applaud George W. Bush.
 
2012-09-06 08:31:32 AM  
The GOP likes their speakers at a nice, even keeled, 5th grade reading level:

i.usatoday.net
 
2012-09-06 08:31:58 AM  

wraith95: I love the "Obama refused to make deals" thing the right has going on. They must be talking about Invisible Obama again, that guy is apparently a dick.


No, they're talking about the real Obama this time. It's just that the GOP confused the definition of "making a deal" with "giving us everything we want right now dammit."
 
2012-09-06 08:32:19 AM  
I don't begrudge Rubin's dumb opinions, contrived and divorced from reality that they are. I begrudge the motherfarkers paying her.
 
2012-09-06 08:32:50 AM  
that article reads like large portions of it were written in advance.
 
2012-09-06 08:33:48 AM  

James!: cc_rider: I guessed Krauthammer. Even worse. I can't believe this lame hack still gets paid to produce this kind of verbal vomit. Are there really no decent conservative writers out there? I understand the need for journalistic "balance", but WaPo needs to fire this nutty biatch and hire someone like David Frum, before they lose their last shred of credibility.

I wouldn't even call them concervative so much as anti-liberal.  That's what all their policy ideas start with.


By liberal you mean, "Someone who can distinguish reality from an empty chair," right?
 
2012-09-06 08:33:50 AM  

cc_rider: "He did not mention Israel."


god damn she actually farking typed that
 
2012-09-06 08:34:03 AM  

Jackson Herring: trotsky: Look, I know that the hacks on the right need to put out material on the DNC. But this is weak. Ryan and Romney gave us plenty of ammo, they just didn't tell some out of context quotes or a few misleading statements, like we see here, they lied like a machine gun. Ryan's speech was basically one blatant lie after another.

Clinton did great. He has more charisma in his little finger than Romney and Ryan have together.

Just wait, I'm sure we are due for a good half-dozen right wing blog greenlights on what a disaster Clinton's speech was.


called it. One for every one of the usual suspect Fark Freeper Mod fanboy favorites: townhall, reason, american thinker, AP (their derpy writer) and FOX.
 
2012-09-06 08:35:46 AM  

Generation_D: Edsel: Still boggles the mind that a major newspaper actually has Jennifer Rubin on its payroll. She might as well be paid by the Romney campaign.

Because of the modern way "Fair and Balanced" is required. You can have 100 normal reporters citing facts and honestly using quoted, but by golly you better have that right wing derp person whose sole job it is to repeat what they make up on FOX. Or else.

Really is an inspiring thing when we have what amounts to "quota hires" in the media -- we keep giving these 1%ers a voice regardless of how much in the minority they are.


It goes beyond that - even jackwagons like Bill Kristol will call Romney out for something they don't agree with. Not her - it literally does not matter one bit what new or contradictory position he takes, she'll immediately blog a full-throated defense of it. Look back at her posts during the primary season and see what she wrote about the other Republican candidates. She might as well be a copywriter for the Romney campaign, and it's a huge embarassment to WaPo that they're paying her for this crap.
 
2012-09-06 08:35:52 AM  
You know, I'm sure there are people that didn't understand all the words and concepts in that speech, but most of them are either still in elementary school or already voting Republican.
 
2012-09-06 08:38:04 AM  

Edsel: Generation_D: Edsel: Still boggles the mind that a major newspaper actually has Jennifer Rubin on its payroll. She might as well be paid by the Romney campaign.

Because of the modern way "Fair and Balanced" is required. You can have 100 normal reporters citing facts and honestly using quoted, but by golly you better have that right wing derp person whose sole job it is to repeat what they make up on FOX. Or else.

Really is an inspiring thing when we have what amounts to "quota hires" in the media -- we keep giving these 1%ers a voice regardless of how much in the minority they are.

It goes beyond that - even jackwagons like Bill Kristol will call Romney out for something they don't agree with. Not her - it literally does not matter one bit what new or contradictory position he takes, she'll immediately blog a full-throated defense of it. Look back at her posts during the primary season and see what she wrote about the other Republican candidates. She might as well be a copywriter for the Romney campaign, and it's a huge embarassment to WaPo that they're paying her for this crap.


One of the advantages of living on the Left Coast is, its fairly easy to ignore crap from east coast shills. I had honestly never heard of this person prior to this thread. My tolerance for shills has really fallen post 9/11, lifes too short to waste time and effort to read their noise.
 
2012-09-06 08:40:25 AM  

Here Comes Everybody: Came here to say that. Jennifer Rubin is a hack. Occasionally some of the WaPo's conservative columnists, like Will, Krauthammer, or Parker, manage to write something worth reading. Rubin does nothing but recycle right-wing spin.


I absolutely cannot stand Krauthammer. Dude does not even pretend to have a journalistic bone in his body. I love how he was candid about Romney's onslaught of diplomacy in the UK and called it for the clusterfark that it was, and by the end of that week he wrote a contradictory piece calling it an unmitigated success.
 
2012-09-06 08:41:02 AM  
A broke clock is right twice a day. And it is obviously not the time of day yet for this columnist to be right.
 
2012-09-06 08:41:33 AM  

Edsel: I'll be amazed if WaPo doesn't ditch her after the election.


If they didn't fire her for retweeting and agreenig with this piece of filth by Rachel Adams:


Then round up [Gilad Shalit's] captors, the slaughtering, death-worshiping, innocent-butchering, child-sacrificing savages who dip their hands in blood and use women-those who aren't strapping bombs to their own devils' spawn and sending them out to meet their seventy-two virgins by taking the lives of the school-bus-riding, heart-drawing, Transformer-doodling, homework-losing children of Others-and their offspring-those who haven't already been pimped out by their mothers to the murder god-as shields, hiding behind their burkas and cradles like the unmanned animals they are, and throw them not into your prisons, where they can bide until they're traded by the thousands for another child of Israel, but into the sea, to float there, food for sharks, stargazers, and whatever other oceanic carnivores God has put there for the purpose.


They are likely not going to fire her for anything short of criminal behavior.
 
2012-09-06 08:41:46 AM  
I'm sorry I can't hear you in the middle of my morning-after glow of hearing good ole' bill's genuine, accurate, plainspoken, reasonable, fact-filled, coherent analysis of the past and future.

/seriously - can we elect him again?
 
2012-09-06 08:44:10 AM  
Jennifer Rubin: "You lost me at 'arithmetic.'"
 
2012-09-06 08:48:41 AM  
I read this EdOp and was confused. Are being so blindly following one candidate they can't honestly acknowledge a speech was good? Her arguments seemed week and watered, as if she had to conjure up the complaints, but didn't have enough mana to counter all the talking points, so barely tried on any of them.
 
2012-09-06 08:50:09 AM  
Clinton was a disaster... for Rmoney's election hopes
 
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