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(Reason Magazine)   Michelle Obama: Hey look me and Barack were poor black people who rose up and struggled. Fact: both grew up rich. Barack went to an elite prep school then to the Ivy's for College and Michelle went to a rich magnet school then the Ivy's   (reason.com) divider line 72
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2012-09-06 12:50:37 AM  
7 votes:
Whitney Young is a free school.

You get in by being an outstanding student.
2012-09-06 10:26:59 AM  
6 votes:
Both Obamas had good educations and were from hard-working middle class families that grew wealthier over time so that they were able to afford upper level education. Having access to a good education and enough money to afford higher education is why they were successful.

That's kind of the f*cking point. The middle class is being destroyed by the rich. A strong middle class is essential for continued wealth in this country. How does anyone not understand that?

I wouldn't call either of the Obamas rich. They were from middle class families that worked hard and as a result had successful careers. I come from that background, my dad had a lot of children, we were by no means rich, but he became very successful and was able to afford to put all of his kids through college AND give us a choice of where to go (most of us borrowed thousands in student loans but he helped a LOT). I attribute much of my success to my parents, I am incredibly grateful to my family for that, even if both of my parents are voting for Romney in November. :)
2012-09-06 09:26:14 AM  
6 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: Well, yes, DIA did post above you.

You're about a stupid motherfarker aren't you?


No run off and whine to the mods about how the mean man called you a name you farking pansy.


I'm sorry nobody treats you with respect, but you aren't deserving of any kind of respect. You are worth nothing, and everyone knows it. If that makes you angry, maybe you ought to look at yourself and wonder why nobody thinks you are worth anything.

Or you can lash out like a child whenever someone points out you contribute nothing but lies, dishonesty and utter disdain for the facts.
2012-09-06 03:05:25 AM  
6 votes:

borg: mediablitz: Obama grew up RICH? Seriously? That's now the claim? And it's a BAD thing?

Jesus farking Christ on a popsicle stick. You just can't make this shiat up.

Well, you CAN, and the far right DOES, but...

He grew up upper middle class I don't think they're saying he was "rich" I think they're saying he wasn't dirt poor.


...which Michelle Obama never claimed. Her speech refers to her father being a worker for the city's water department (presumably a pretty good middle-class Union job), but then having to put two kids through Yale. It also refers to Barack's grandmother working in a bank and getting promoted several times, (again, a presumably pretty good middle-class lifestyle), but then had to put her grandson through Harvard.

In TFA's world, claiming that a middle-class family struggled to pay for their kids' tuition for Ivy League schools is falsely claiming you grew up poor.

In TFA's world, going to a free magnet school and then taking out student loans for your kids is evidence you're actually rich.
2012-09-06 12:29:13 AM  
6 votes:
Yes, that's truly awful. So everyone vote for the guy born into fortune worth hundreds of millions. HE knows what's going on!

Good stuff, Reason, you insipid, mongering retards.
2012-09-06 09:06:52 AM  
4 votes:
My parents sent me to Colgate. It nearly broke them.

This piece is a weak effort at 'retaliation' because Anne Romney's poor attempt to make their early years seem lean and uncertain went over like a lead balloon. Or in the case of the Romney's, a gold balloon.

But it's nice to see Romney is sharing the logs in eye with his wife. That's special..
2012-09-06 12:58:36 AM  
4 votes:

Asa Phelps: Whitney Young is a free school.

You get in by being an outstanding student.


And Obama attended Punahou on a scholarship.
2012-09-06 12:38:31 AM  
4 votes:
They actually quote The Onion.
The mutherfarkin' Onion.
2012-09-06 11:42:53 AM  
3 votes:
No one had it easier than the black child of a single white mother in the early sixties.
2012-09-06 10:59:39 AM  
3 votes:
Yes, Michelle Obama grew up so rich that her family couldn't even afford to put a swing on the swingset in their backyard.

Fark these assholes. The Obamas are the "American Dream" incarnate.
2012-09-06 09:36:52 AM  
3 votes:
This is about as Rovian as it gets.
2012-09-06 09:10:35 AM  
3 votes:

SphericalTime: Sometimes Fark is where best snark is.


It's from an old, very old, Bloom County cartoon.

/I'm amazed by how relevant those things are, even today.
2012-09-06 08:24:39 AM  
3 votes:
The following a a paid advertisement by Romney for America.

Finally a President every American can call their own.

He's been a handicapped unionist minority farmer.
He's been a right-wing pro-choice born-again southern elderly protectionist pacifist.
He's been a redneck northern liberal ethnic pro-life Jewish fixed income no-nukes gun nut.
And he's been a woman named Frieda.

Mitt Romney: He's been one of us.
2012-09-06 08:11:26 AM  
3 votes:
Jesus Christ Admin.
2012-09-06 12:58:00 PM  
2 votes:
So, to summarize:

The Romneys were poor because they had to cash in stock options to pay for college.
The Obamas were rich because they paid their way through Ivy League schools using student loans.
2012-09-06 12:13:53 PM  
2 votes:
Being rich is suddenly a bad thing!?

i571.photobucket.com
2012-09-06 11:44:39 AM  
2 votes:

propasaurus: They actually quote The Onion.
The mutherfarkin' Onion.


EL

OH

MUTHAFARKIN' EL.

/Holy Crap, Clinton's speech freaked the RWers out
//Seriously...
///....GOOD! FARK 'EM
2012-09-06 10:49:13 AM  
2 votes:
Yesterday: Obama didn't even go to Columbia, and only got into Harvard just because he's black!

Today: Obama got into the best schools because he is rich!
2012-09-06 09:17:07 AM  
2 votes:
Wow. Just wow. Its nice to see the admins finally coming out amd admitting they have no shame.
2012-09-06 08:56:46 AM  
2 votes:
And is Obama's Mormonism going to hurt him in the upcoming election? Can voters really relate to Michelle Obama's ballet-dancing horse?
2012-09-06 02:05:51 AM  
2 votes:
Obama grew up RICH? Seriously? That's now the claim? And it's a BAD thing?

Jesus farking Christ on a popsicle stick. You just can't make this shiat up.

Well, you CAN, and the far right DOES, but...
2012-09-06 01:12:11 AM  
2 votes:
The Ivy's what?
2012-09-06 01:03:10 AM  
2 votes:
So no more questions about where Obama went to school?
2012-09-06 08:02:55 PM  
1 votes:

doctor wu: Attention white trash! The black guy is gonna be president again, get used to it.


you seem to focus on race too much, brah
2012-09-06 04:01:00 PM  
1 votes:

karnal: I believe we need to use more of our own natural resources



31 August 2012 - Energy prosperity: Oil production in lower 48 reaches a 23-year high in July, while oil/gas jobs reach a 24-year high 

Area Man Passionate Attacker Of What He Imagines President To Be
2012-09-06 02:11:25 PM  
1 votes:

Headso: The spitefulness toward this first lady is one of those things that makes me hate republicans/conservatives and not just disagree with them politically. Plenty of it in this or any other thread involving her.


They are insanely disrespectful and racist when it comes to the first lady. It's batshiat crazy and makes absolutely no sense. The only way I can understand why they are such assholes about it is to realize that these are the same people who buy Ann Coulter's books.
2012-09-06 02:09:34 PM  
1 votes:

karnal: skullkrusher

they're not saying they were poor.



Michelle did - she alluded to it by saying how "she and her husband understand what it is to struggle to make ends meet." She spoke of their early years--about how a young Barry drove a car that was "rusted out" and found his furniture "in a dumpster," how they both came from families that had to "scrape by." BS! But the only lie a Democrat will ever recognize is when it is said by a Republican.


There are millions of Americans who are struggling to make ends meet that do not consider themselves poor. I am one of them. You are being disingenuous.
2012-09-06 02:03:44 PM  
1 votes:
The spitefulness toward this first lady is one of those things that makes me hate republicans/conservatives and not just disagree with them politically. Plenty of it in this or any other thread involving her.
2012-09-06 01:55:49 PM  
1 votes:
OUT THE shiat MODMIN GREENLIGHTING THIS farkING CRAP

seriously drew.. you've become exactly what you decried.
2012-09-06 01:24:29 PM  
1 votes:
Can someone post the Onion reference? I'm not clicking that farking link.
2012-09-06 01:13:17 PM  
1 votes:
p.twimg.com


Extremely wealthy Republican born with a silver spoon in his mouth: Knows how to manage money.


Moderately wealthy Democrat who had an upper middle class upbringing and got into a good school: Elitist. 
2012-09-06 01:09:36 PM  
1 votes:

Mentat: So, to summarize:

The Romneys were poor because they had to cash in stock options to pay for college.
The Obamas were rich because they paid their way through Ivy League schools using student loans.


I mean, there's "white-person rich" and then there's "black-person rich."

Mitt and Ann going to school and living off of sales of stocks that Mitt's dad bought for him is white-person-poor.

Barack and Michelle going to school by student loan and scholarships is black-person rich.
2012-09-06 01:04:06 PM  
1 votes:

Bender The Offender: This just in, people of intelligence and talent don't have to buy their way into everything just yet, give the republicans a little more time and this will change.


Someone getting into a school because he works hard? That's Democrat SOCIALISM!!!

Getting into school because your daddy is rich!! - That's Republican boot strappy individualism!!!
2012-09-06 12:36:09 PM  
1 votes:
Hurrr...I'm sure by Breitfart's standards I'm also an "elitist" because my parents (public school teachers) valued education and I grew up in a town that had good public schools.

You know conservatives are freaking out after seeing the latest numbers, because all kinds of crazy derp is being herped today. I farking love it. :)
2012-09-06 12:28:08 PM  
1 votes:

Kittypie070: Being rich is suddenly a bad thing!?


It is when you're blah, apparently.
2012-09-06 12:19:58 PM  
1 votes:
Ya, because those city water pump employees with MS are just rolling in their scrooge mcduck style vaults of cash. Seriously, GOP, if you want to talk about issues, lets talk about gay marriage, healthcare, medicare, and Iran... but you know you'll lose there, so you'd rather us talk about Obama's personal life. Sorry you chose a shiatty candidate, better luck next go around... ps, I would have considered voting for Huntsman.
2012-09-06 12:18:26 PM  
1 votes:

karnal: They both grew up middle class....why hide from it


They don't. And you are a silly, silly person.
2012-09-06 12:16:40 PM  
1 votes:

Ninepoundhammer: GAT_00: Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: Well, yes, DIA did post above you.

You're about a stupid motherfarker aren't you?


No run off and whine to the mods about how the mean man called you a name you farking pansy.

I'm sorry nobody treats you with respect, but you aren't deserving of any kind of respect. You are worth nothing, and everyone knows it. If that makes you angry, maybe you ought to look at yourself and wonder why nobody thinks you are worth anything.

Or you can lash out like a child whenever someone points out you contribute nothing but lies, dishonesty and utter disdain for the facts.

That was a graceful, textbook takedown. Well done.

/Favorited


It's significant too. Anyone that's been around here for a while knows DIA has always been obtuse, unable to respond to questions, and ridiculously anti-government. I think the best description I ever saw of his posts was "toddler logic". But I've never seen him display such bald-faced rage before today, and with so little provocation.

This election has people like him really freaked out.
2012-09-06 12:15:47 PM  
1 votes:
They both grew up as part of the middle class and were able to parlay that into stunning success. Now they want to give other people the same opportunity. That is the message you dickholes, they aren't claiming to be uneducated moonshiners who get by on wing, a prayer, a tattered bible and the folksy wisdom of the purposefully ignorant rural class.
2012-09-06 12:14:16 PM  
1 votes:
We know enough about Obama's upbringing to know that the "grew up rich" claim is bullshiat, but let's look at Michelle:

Michelle LaVaughn Robinson was born on January 17, 1964, in Chicago, Illinois, to Fraser Robinson III, a city water plant employee and Democratic precinct captain, and Marian (née Shields), a secretary at Spiegel's catalog store...Her mother was a full-time homemaker until Michelle entered high school.

Sounds like they were rolling in cash. Those big "city employee" and "secretary" bucks. And full-time homemakers are rich - just ask Ann Romney.
2012-09-06 12:07:57 PM  
1 votes:
I went to a private school (a year's tuition there was more than a year of in-state tuition at UMD). I'm pretty sure that my parents' combined income during that time was under $150k (and since my mom was out of work for a year or two, likely under $100k).

It also doesn't account for the fact that there are many people who find ways to afford tuition at a school (high or college) but are left searching for other ways of eating, sleeping and reading during those years.

If only Obama had sold some stock, he would have been able to fix his car and get better shoes.
2012-09-06 12:01:35 PM  
1 votes:
This just in, people of intelligence and talent don't have to buy their way into everything just yet, give the republicans a little more time and this will change.
2012-09-06 11:57:22 AM  
1 votes:

PsyLord: bdub77: vernonFL: PsyLord: Compared to Romney, Oprah is poor.

/amirite?

Actually, no. Romney worth about $250 million. Oprah makes $290 million per year. Oprah is worth over $2 billion.

You just got OWNed.

Haha, imnotrite. Damn, Romney is poor. That makes me lower than dirt.


Only if you didn't catch the subtle reference to Oprah's tv network. :)
2012-09-06 11:53:44 AM  
1 votes:

vernonFL: PsyLord: Compared to Romney, Oprah is poor.

/amirite?

Actually, no. Romney worth about $250 million. Oprah makes $290 million per year. Oprah is worth over $2 billion.


Romney is worth a lot more than $250 million. $250 million is just the net worth he has deigned to disclose to the IRS
2012-09-06 11:50:17 AM  
1 votes:
But yesterday he hated rich people because he grew up poor!

Which right wing personality do I believe?
2012-09-06 11:48:39 AM  
1 votes:

PsyLord: Compared to Romney, Oprah is poor.

/amirite?


Actually, no. Romney worth about $250 million. Oprah makes $290 million per year. Oprah is worth over $2 billion.
2012-09-06 11:48:12 AM  
1 votes:
It seems like anyone can write a crappy blog opinion entry on current events and get it green-lighted. Is this true? I mean, if so, technically we can all start crappy blogs and get our blog posts listed in the Fark feed as news. I know it's not news, it's Fark, but I didn't know "Fark" also included retarded blog posts. And if that's the case, why aren't there more cat pics?

We demand more cat pics.
2012-09-06 11:44:59 AM  
1 votes:

mediablitz: borg: He grew up upper middle class I don't think they're saying he was "rich" I think they're saying he wasn't dirt poor.

Uh huh... YEAH....

Go ahead. Show us the numbers. Tell us how his grandparents were pulling down high 6 figures.

Come on! You can do it! Something more than "read his book". I have it right here.

Break it down! I'm SURE you aren't completely full of envious shiat and animosity!


Remember when Reason argued that six figures was middle class?
2012-09-06 11:44:52 AM  
1 votes:
Onion quoted. We have gone full retard. Please exit the thread quietly, and may the lord have mercy on our souls.
2012-09-06 11:42:08 AM  
1 votes:
If Mitt Romney woke up with Obama's money he would throw himself out a window.
2012-09-06 11:39:54 AM  
1 votes:
HOW DO GRANTS AND STUDENT LOANS WORK YOU GUYS
2012-09-06 11:38:22 AM  
1 votes:
I am pretty sure Obama got into the prep school from a SCHOLARSHIP, not because he had rich parents like someone else.

Why do Republicans hate success?
2012-09-06 11:21:10 AM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: MacEnvy: Diogenes: Loved Colgate. Worth every cent, and my parents agree.

Yep, me too. I don't do anything having to do with the degree, but the Colgate (or most small private liberal arts schools, really) experience is amazing preparation to be a well-rounded adult capable of critical thought. I wouldn't trade that experience for the world, even though I'm still paying it off almost 10 years later.

Yeah, what I do isn't directly applicable to my career. But it has really helped me.

If I could survive Professor Balmuth's Philosophy of Language seminar (and have him advise on my thesis), I can do anything.


Ah, ol' Jerry. I used to fix his various Macs when I worked Helpline. Good times.
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2012-09-06 11:13:34 AM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: They actually quote The Onion.
The mutherfarkin' Onion.


I don't think that anyone who reads "reason" is going understand the difference between satire and news.

It's still a new low.
2012-09-06 11:01:06 AM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: Loved Colgate. Worth every cent, and my parents agree.


Yep, me too. I don't do anything having to do with the degree, but the Colgate (or most small private liberal arts schools, really) experience is amazing preparation to be a well-rounded adult capable of critical thought. I wouldn't trade that experience for the world, even though I'm still paying it off almost 10 years later.
2012-09-06 10:53:48 AM  
1 votes:

vernonFL: Yesterday: Obama didn't even go to Columbia, and only got into Harvard just because he's black!

Today: Obama got into the best schools because he is rich!


It's like trying to wrestle with a giant pile of overcooked spaghetti, isn't it?
2012-09-06 10:44:42 AM  
1 votes:
...according to Joel B. Pollak, Breitbart.com

I'm sure Breitbart was also quite suspicious of Ann Romney's claim that she and Mitt struggled in a basement apartment and used a door on on sawhorses as a dinner table
2012-09-06 10:36:37 AM  
1 votes:

thismomentinblackhistory: There is one simple thing the Obama's could do to shut this controversy down:


What controversy would that be?
2012-09-06 10:24:30 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: No run off and whine to the mods about how the mean man called you a name you farking pansy.


I see you're adding your typical contribution to today's discourse.
2012-09-06 09:41:35 AM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: They actually quote The Onion.
The mutherfarkin' Onion.


we're through the derping glass here people
2012-09-06 09:22:02 AM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: My parents sent me to Colgate. It nearly broke them.


Hey, I almost went there. Ended up going to University of Rochester instead, and that did break my parents. Finished up at the local state school.
2012-09-06 09:12:15 AM  
1 votes:
Wait, what?

TReason (the T is silent) magazine is actually playing the "elitist" card against the Obamas?

[orly?]

Do they even know who the GOP candidate is yet?

Heh heh! Can't wait to see the look on their faces when they find out!

[thisisgonnabegood]
2012-09-06 09:11:56 AM  
1 votes:
W wasn't a cowboy either but that's the image that sticks... Then you have Obama juxtaposed with Mortimer-randolph-duke-thurston howell-the-third-monopoly-guy and the image is even easier to sell.
2012-09-06 08:52:19 AM  
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: Claim: "Barack Obama is still the same man I fell in love with all those years ago"

Rating: Pants on fire! Barack Obama is actually 23 years older than the man she fell in love with all those years ago.


Hilarious.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The following a a paid advertisement by Romney for America.

Finally a President every American can call their own.

He's been a handicapped unionist minority farmer.
He's been a right-wing pro-choice born-again southern elderly protectionist pacifist.
He's been a redneck northern liberal ethnic pro-life Jewish fixed income no-nukes gun nut.
And he's been a woman named Frieda.

Mitt Romney: He's been one of us.


Awesome.

Sometimes Fark is where best snark is.
2012-09-06 08:17:45 AM  
1 votes:
annnnnnd here comes the fark asswit brigade of false equivalencies and logical fallacies.

fark right wing mod, whomever you are, let me just say this, with all sincerity: EFF U.
2012-09-06 08:15:47 AM  
1 votes:
Poor people don't get to be President. News at 11.
2012-09-06 08:14:10 AM  
1 votes:
Shhh...Don;t tell any one but his birth name is actually Navin Johnson.
2012-09-06 07:19:05 AM  
1 votes:
Rich people are not like us. We fantasize about electing candidates who understand the common man from our own point of view, but, really, we know such a person is not going to get elected to high office. So stop talking shiat about how poor you were growing up. It's not convincing anybody. It only reminds us that you rich people believe ordinary people, if we weren't stupid and gullible, would be rich too. It isn't so. The log cabin story hasn't worked since Abe Lincoln.
2012-09-06 04:06:08 AM  
1 votes:

borg: Read his books.


I did. I have. You are full of shiat.

What's next? He had high powered connections? Mitt Romney is really a poor black child?
2012-09-06 04:04:57 AM  
1 votes:

borg: He grew up upper middle class I don't think they're saying he was "rich" I think they're saying he wasn't dirt poor.


Uh huh... YEAH....

Go ahead. Show us the numbers. Tell us how his grandparents were pulling down high 6 figures.

Come on! You can do it! Something more than "read his book". I have it right here.

Break it down! I'm SURE you aren't completely full of envious shiat and animosity!
2012-09-06 02:29:47 AM  
1 votes:

mediablitz: Obama grew up RICH? Seriously? That's now the claim? And it's a BAD thing?

Jesus farking Christ on a popsicle stick. You just can't make this shiat up.

Well, you CAN, and the far right DOES, but...


He grew up upper middle class I don't think they're saying he was "rich" I think they're saying he wasn't dirt poor.
2012-09-06 01:08:09 AM  
1 votes:
Both President Obama's parents had Ph.D's and made decent livings.

/bla bla bla
 
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