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(Reason Magazine)   Michelle Obama: Hey look me and Barack were poor black people who rose up and struggled. Fact: both grew up rich. Barack went to an elite prep school then to the Ivy's for College and Michelle went to a rich magnet school then the Ivy's   (reason.com) divider line 323
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2012-09-06 02:34:35 PM
Obama: I bought my first car for about $900. It had a big hole in the floor that allowed you to see the road, so I knew my wife wasn't marrying me for my money.

Romney: I too once had a car with a hole in it. Or as it is sometimes called, a "sun roof."
 
2012-09-06 02:36:15 PM

mrexcess: pat34us
As opposed to R*Money's campain

No, not "as opposed to" anything. Deceiving voters isn't only wrong if you are the first or worst, it is wrong regardless of what anyone else is doing. You're engaging in what is known as the Tu quoque fallacy, and the consequence of reasoning like yours would be (is...) a race to the bottom.


You have great point in theory, but if one guy has Chuck Norris on TV saying that if Obama gets re-elected there will be 1000 years of darkness, you are facing an uphill battle anyway, so why handcuff yourself with "facts" and "the truth".
 
2012-09-06 02:36:38 PM

mrexcess: Look, here's the fact. Obama's campaign is exaggerating the humility of his origins in an effort to bestow "common man" appeal on him as contrast with Mitt Romney.


What exaggeration? Specifically state what has been exaggerated, please.
 
2012-09-06 02:36:40 PM

karnal: Dims


*** DRINK! ***
 
2012-09-06 02:36:48 PM

CreamFilling: their list of alumni is typically is more notable for who their parents are than for their own accomplishments.


No it isn't. You idiot.

/Chicagoan who knows kids who go there
 
2012-09-06 02:38:30 PM

skullkrusher: ArmyWarVet: skullkrusher: ArmyWarVet: PROOF that Dems will do ANYTHING for a vote or good endorsement!
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Trolling? Moi? Yes I am, just for lulz.
/unfortunately someone is going to take me seriously and get offended.

nothing offensive there. I knew there must've been some way BO convinced BC to speak on his behalf

/+1

Thank you! And now to add some fuel to the fire.

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/still trolling.

hey, that's hurtful to Iranians

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encrypted-tbn0.google.com

Persians, not Iranian.
 
2012-09-06 02:38:47 PM
Subby has an interesting interpretation of what "rich" means. Both the Obamas grew up middle class. But they're also black. So I guess any black person who isn't living on food stamps in the ghetto has to be considered "rich."

My next door neighbor is a lawyer (LLD, Tulane), drives a Lexus, and is very, very black. He has no "black" accent, wears good suits, and send his three daughters to an academically very demanding private school. But he's obviously racist since he made a sizable donation to the Obama campaign in 2008.
 
2012-09-06 02:43:43 PM

ArmyWarVet: skullkrusher: ArmyWarVet: skullkrusher: ArmyWarVet: PROOF that Dems will do ANYTHING for a vote or good endorsement!
[i1197.photobucket.com image 630x764]

Trolling? Moi? Yes I am, just for lulz.
/unfortunately someone is going to take me seriously and get offended.

nothing offensive there. I knew there must've been some way BO convinced BC to speak on his behalf

/+1

Thank you! And now to add some fuel to the fire.

[i1197.photobucket.com image 850x522]

/still trolling.

hey, that's hurtful to Iranians

[www.infamouskidd.com image 450x284]

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Persians, not Iranian.


tell Immadinnerjacket, not me
 
2012-09-06 02:44:44 PM
>Isitoveryet

karnal: the only lie a Democrat will ever recognize is when it is said by a Republican.

man, you really want to believe that the Obama's were better off that the Romney's don't you.


That's your Dim Spin on it.....I say they were middle class. Romney has never been middle class.
 
2012-09-06 02:46:28 PM

someonelse: And also too:

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Obama doesn't show up in paitings, either?
 
2012-09-06 02:51:30 PM

karnal: >Isitoveryet

karnal: the only lie a Democrat will ever recognize is when it is said by a Republican.

man, you really want to believe that the Obama's were better off that the Romney's don't you.


That's your Dim Spin on it.....I say they were middle class. Romney has never been middle class.


I totally agree!

I like middle class (the most diverse) and i plan on voting for the guy who will help to better the middle class.
 
2012-09-06 02:52:05 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: The following a a paid advertisement by Romney for America.

Finally a President every American can call their own.

He's been a handicapped unionist minority farmer.
He's been a right-wing pro-choice born-again southern elderly protectionist pacifist.
He's been a redneck northern liberal ethnic pro-life Jewish fixed income no-nukes gun nut.
And he's been a woman named Frieda.

Mitt Romney: He's been one of us.


But Romney was never a bald, amputee lesbian dwarf, so he doesn't get my vote!
 
2012-09-06 02:52:21 PM

mksmith: My next door neighbor is a lawyer (LLD, Tulane), drives a Lexus, and is very, very black. He has no "black" accent, wears good suits, and send his three daughters to an academically very demanding private school. But he's obviously racist since he made a sizable donation to the Obama campaign in 2008.


That's funny, my Next door Neighbor is a lawyer also. He drives a Land Rover, but he is only very black. I don't know where his kids go to school or who he votes for. I do know that he has more money than I do because his cars are way nicer and they pay people to mow their lawn. But he doesn't have a deck and I do, so he can suck on that.
 
2012-09-06 02:55:19 PM

mediablitz: Mitt Romney is really a poor black child?


I found a picture of Mitt's real brother.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-06 02:56:13 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat:
Mitt Romney: He's been one of us.

But Romney was never a bald, amputee lesbian dwarf, so he doesn't get my vote!


How YOU doin'?
 
2012-09-06 02:58:34 PM

The Homer Tax: mksmith: My next door neighbor is a lawyer (LLD, Tulane), drives a Lexus, and is very, very black. He has no "black" accent, wears good suits, and send his three daughters to an academically very demanding private school. But he's obviously racist since he made a sizable donation to the Obama campaign in 2008.

That's funny, my Next door Neighbor is a lawyer also. He drives a Land Rover, but he is only very black. I don't know where his kids go to school or who he votes for. I do know that he has more money than I do because his cars are way nicer and they pay people to mow their lawn. But he doesn't have a deck and I do, so he can suck on that.


he can suck your deck?
 
2012-09-06 02:59:21 PM

ArmyWarVet: /still trolling.


No swastika?
 
2012-09-06 03:00:24 PM
theknucker_33
Michelle Obama made comments about knowing what it is like to struggle to make ends meet. She wasn't talking about their "origins" and she never said they were "poor". Conservatives are claiming she said they were poor and, because they weren't poor, that she is a liar.

Dude, do you hear yourself? This is word parsing at its worst! Conservative claims do not revolve around the President or First Lady's use of the word "poor" specifically... that's a red herring. The issue is that Obama's campaign is playing up his "common man from humble origins" credentials when the fact of the matter is that Obama is not a common man and does not have particularly humble origins. Conservative complaints about this are essentially valid, whether or not they are also hypocritical. Obama should be honest with voters about his fairly privileged and lucky background.
 
2012-09-06 03:05:24 PM
Isitoveryet

karnal: >Isitoveryet

karnal: the only lie a Democrat will ever recognize is when it is said by a Republican.

man, you really want to believe that the Obama's were better off that the Romney's don't you.


That's your Dim Spin on it.....I say they were middle class. Romney has never been middle class.

I totally agree!

I like middle class (the most diverse) and i plan on voting for the guy who will help to better the middle class.


Being dimwitted is no way to go through life, son.......the Obama's try to reach a larger voting audience by claiming they grew up poor, so you will vote for him because he was really middle class? I see no point in trying to understand that sort of weak logic....but then again, the fearful and naïve have always fallen for charismatic radicals.
 
2012-09-06 03:05:29 PM

BuckTurgidson: ArmyWarVet: /still trolling.

No swastika?


Nah, it would contradict the hammer and sickle.
 
2012-09-06 03:06:25 PM

mrexcess: Obama should be honest with voters about his fairly privileged and lucky background.


Oh, put a sock in it.

How many times you gotta say the same goddam thing?

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-09-06 03:09:16 PM

ArmyWarVet: BuckTurgidson: ArmyWarVet: /still trolling.

No swastika?

Nah, it would contradict the hammer and sickle.


Oh, well, that helps. And here I thought you guys had just switched over to Gadsden flags.

Carry on.
 
2012-09-06 03:15:22 PM

Epoch_Zero: ArmyWarVet: BuckTurgidson: ArmyWarVet: /still trolling.

No swastika?

Nah, it would contradict the hammer and sickle.

Oh, well, that helps. And here I thought you guys had just switched over to Gadsden flags.

Carry on.


In my original post you did read the part where I admitted I was trolling right? I just want to know if you're my first bite.
 
2012-09-06 03:16:50 PM
Yep, he was! That's one!

/here fishy fishy!
 
2012-09-06 03:18:44 PM

Deucednuisance: mrexcess: Obama should be honest with voters about his fairly privileged and lucky background.

Oh, put a sock in it.

How many times you gotta say the same goddam thing?

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This is not my beautiful post.
 
2012-09-06 03:20:10 PM
Obama being poor fits the message. Don't rock the boat, submitter.
 
2012-09-06 03:21:25 PM

ArmyWarVet: Epoch_Zero: ArmyWarVet: BuckTurgidson: ArmyWarVet: /still trolling.

No swastika?

Nah, it would contradict the hammer and sickle.

Oh, well, that helps. And here I thought you guys had just switched over to Gadsden flags.

Carry on.

In my original post you did read the part where I admitted I was trolling right? I just want to know if you're my first bite.


Yeah, and why I encouraged you to carry on.

Beautiful response with the hammer ans sickle, btw. Just cloudy enough to get a bite.
 
2012-09-06 03:21:58 PM

karnal: Isitoveryet

karnal: >Isitoveryet

karnal: the only lie a Democrat will ever recognize is when it is said by a Republican.

man, you really want to believe that the Obama's were better off that the Romney's don't you.


That's your Dim Spin on it.....I say they were middle class. Romney has never been middle class.

I totally agree!

I like middle class (the most diverse) and i plan on voting for the guy who will help to better the middle class.

Being dimwitted is no way to go through life, son.......the Obama's try to reach a larger voting audience by claiming they grew up poor, so you will vote for him because he was really middle class? I see no point in trying to understand that sort of weak logic....but then again, the fearful and naïve have always fallen for charismatic radicals.


it's a decision on my behalf based on party policy, not an association of economic class.
If ever the (R)'s decided to show some concern for lower & middle class citizens they would have greater appeal as it stands, they prefer to make the rich richer.

you talk a lot but don't say much.
 
2012-09-06 03:23:39 PM

GAT_00: Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: Well, yes, DIA did post above you.

You're about a stupid motherfarker aren't you?


No run off and whine to the mods about how the mean man called you a name you farking pansy.

I'm sorry nobody treats you with respect, but you aren't deserving of any kind of respect. You are worth nothing, and everyone knows it. If that makes you angry, maybe you ought to look at yourself and wonder why nobody thinks you are worth anything.

Or you can lash out like a child whenever someone points out you contribute nothing but lies, dishonesty and utter disdain for the facts.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-06 03:26:27 PM

mrexcess: theknucker_33
Michelle Obama made comments about knowing what it is like to struggle to make ends meet. She wasn't talking about their "origins" and she never said they were "poor". Conservatives are claiming she said they were poor and, because they weren't poor, that she is a liar.

Dude, do you hear yourself? This is word parsing at its worst! Conservative claims do not revolve around the President or First Lady's use of the word "poor" specifically... that's a red herring. The issue is that Obama's campaign is playing up his "common man from humble origins" credentials when the fact of the matter is that Obama is not a common man and does not have particularly humble origins. Conservative complaints about this are essentially valid, whether or not they are also hypocritical. Obama should be honest with voters about his fairly privileged and lucky background.


If you had to count on scholarships and student loans to pay for school, you weren't privileged. I'm sure they are playing up his background, it makes good sense in a campaign against Romney and they would be fools not to do it. But this thread is conservatives complaining that Michelle lied. She did not. Their complaints are not valid even a little bit.
 
2012-09-06 03:30:12 PM
Isitoveryet


you talk a lot but don't say much.


Let's review some of your thoughtful comments in this thread:

the last thing we need is some uppity refrigerator owning elitists running this great white christian nation.

he can suck your deck?
 
2012-09-06 03:30:40 PM

gameshowhost: Reason.com. Reason. That's the joke.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-06 03:32:15 PM

karnal: Isitoveryet


you talk a lot but don't say much.

Let's review some of your thoughtful comments in this thread:

the last thing we need is some uppity refrigerator owning elitists running this great white christian nation.

he can suck your deck?


still working on that conservative humor i see.
poor poor karnal :(
 
2012-09-06 03:37:37 PM
Isitoveryet

karnal: Isitoveryet


you talk a lot but don't say much.

Let's review some of your thoughtful comments in this thread:

the last thing we need is some uppity refrigerator owning elitists running this great white christian nation.

he can suck your deck?

still working on that conservative humor i see.
poor poor karnal :(



Oh no....not poor. Middle class!
 
2012-09-06 03:38:02 PM

Epoch_Zero: ArmyWarVet: Epoch_Zero: ArmyWarVet: BuckTurgidson: ArmyWarVet: /still trolling.

No swastika?

Nah, it would contradict the hammer and sickle.

Oh, well, that helps. And here I thought you guys had just switched over to Gadsden flags.

Carry on.

In my original post you did read the part where I admitted I was trolling right? I just want to know if you're my first bite.

Yeah, and why I encouraged you to carry on.

Beautiful response with the hammer ans sickle, btw. Just cloudy enough to get a bite.


Thanks! When I get bored I amuse myself with photoshop and cobble together whatever bizarre idea pops into my head. I'm trying to hone my skills enough to win one of Farks photoshop contests but I'm up against very strong competition.
 
2012-09-06 03:41:33 PM

karnal: Oh no....not poor. Middle class!


well good for you!

then you will vote accordingly because i hear that;

Being dimwitted is no way to go through life, son.......& the fearful and naïve have always fallen for charismatic radicals.
 
2012-09-06 03:43:12 PM

sprawl15: This is not my beautiful post.


My god, what have I done?
 
2012-09-06 03:53:02 PM
Isitoveryet

karnal: Oh no....not poor. Middle class!

well good for you!

then you will vote accordingly because i hear that;

Being dimwitted is no way to go through life, son.......& the fearful and naïve have always fallen for charismatic radicals.


I will - I believe Obamacare will hurt the middle class very hard by raising tax on manufacturers and importers of pharmaceuticals, and that tax will be passed on to consumers, most of whom are middle class taxpayers. I disagree with his foreign policy and I believe we need to use more of our own natural resources instead of relying on other countries.
 
2012-09-06 03:55:48 PM

rga184: Diogenes: Well aren't you the clever one?! That's the first time I ever heard that!

;-)

you have to go for something more unexpected. Maybe how you got into Colgate, but didn't go there because you wanted a campus near the ocean...so you enrolled at Aqua Fresh instead.


The most creative I've heard was from high school friend after I got accepted.

"Colgate? What degree are you going to get? Your MFP?"
 
2012-09-06 03:56:56 PM
Why does the DEM party, who should be reaching out to Independents and not their base, try to portray the Obamas as poor? I would never care if they were poor, rich, middle class or whatever. Its a puzzling narrative besides the fact that its untrue.
 
2012-09-06 04:01:00 PM

karnal: I believe we need to use more of our own natural resources



31 August 2012 - Energy prosperity: Oil production in lower 48 reaches a 23-year high in July, while oil/gas jobs reach a 24-year high 

Area Man Passionate Attacker Of What He Imagines President To Be
 
2012-09-06 04:01:15 PM
theknuckler_33
If you had to count on scholarships and student loans to pay for school, you weren't privileged.

This is what I find so amusing... for all this accusing Mitt Romney of having a background that disconnects him from the realities of the common man, you guys are just as disconnected! You think relying on scholarships and student loans makes you underprivileged?

I want you to go listen to a song for me.
 
2012-09-06 04:12:16 PM

mrexcess: theknuckler_33
If you had to count on scholarships and student loans to pay for school, you weren't privileged.

This is what I find so amusing... for all this accusing Mitt Romney of having a background that disconnects him from the realities of the common man, you guys are just as disconnected! You think relying on scholarships and student loans makes you underprivileged?

I want you to go listen to a song for me.


Ah 'underprivileged'... obviously if you are not 'privileged', you must be 'underprivileged' right? Now you are being pedantic and silly.
 
2012-09-06 04:12:56 PM
mrexcess
Ti>his is what I find so amusing... for all this accusing Mitt Romney of having a background that disconnects him from the realities of the common man, you guys are just as disconnected! You think relying on scholarships and student loans makes you underprivileged?

Not sure why you're amused. She detailed in her speech how rough her and Barry had it in their lives. Its a snow job so they can slather Romney with the "rich and disconnected" juice. Her speech was all over the place in rhetoric-If her and her husband overcame so much and made it, then her narrative of the country not being a place of equality holds no water.
 
2012-09-06 04:20:08 PM

torr5962: Why does the DEM party, who should be reaching out to Independents and not their base, try to portray the Obamas as poor? I would never care if they were poor, rich, middle class or whatever. Its a puzzling narrative besides the fact that its untrue.


According to whom? Breitbart.com?
 
2012-09-06 04:21:32 PM

Diogenes: My parents sent me to Colgate. It nearly broke them.


At least you got free pizza to attend hockey games out of it.
 
2012-09-06 04:27:04 PM
Lando Lincoln

torr5962: Why does the DEM party, who should be reaching out to Independents and not their base, try to portray the Obamas as poor? I would never care if they were poor, rich, middle class or whatever. Its a puzzling narrative besides the fact that its untrue.

According to whom? Breitbart.com?


According to Michelle herself:
...she alluded to it by saying how "she and her husband understand what it is to struggle to make ends meet." She spoke of their early years--about how a young Barry drove a car that was "rusted out" and found his furniture "in a dumpster," how they both came from families that had to "scrape by."
 
2012-09-06 04:31:03 PM

karnal: I believe we need to use more of our own natural resources instead of relying on other countries.


we are doing that...
 
2012-09-06 04:38:38 PM
There is too much derp and not enough redheads in this thread.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-06 04:46:09 PM
Whew, came in late, and had to "skim" through the whole threat. My brain hurts from the stupidity shown by the republicons (thanks, I think it was gyrafalcon who coined this).
 
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