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(Reuters)   U.S. government to give spammers a gigantic list of valid email addresses not to spam. Also appoints Michael Jackson as Secretary of Day Care   (reuters.co.uk) divider line 90
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2003-11-22 05:56:15 PM
Maybe I want to make my penis 3" longer! Maybe I want to help out Nigerians who need to hide their money in my checking account! What about my needs, huh?
 
2003-11-22 06:07:28 PM
Doesn't suprise me... at all...
 
2003-11-22 06:09:59 PM
Hope it works as well as the "do not call" list.
 
2003-11-22 06:36:20 PM
Good headline.
 
2003-11-22 06:56:06 PM
I'm glad the spam industry is so ethical they won't just use that list as a list of emails to spam.
 
2003-11-22 06:58:09 PM
I don't like spam. Have You Met Miss Jones, do you want mine?
 
2003-11-22 10:26:07 PM
You shot who in the what now?
 
2003-11-22 10:27:05 PM
Can the government be any dumber??? .. oh wait Bush is in charge still huh... DAMMIT
 
2003-11-22 10:28:41 PM
Is it just me or is every single person in power completely stupid when it comes to technology? All they ever do is listen to marketing, and draw stupid conclusions. I bet the idiot who proposed this bill and the majority of people who voted for it didn't understand that spammers would not be magically blocked from using those addresses.

America is such a farked up place...
 
2003-11-22 10:29:29 PM
zzzzzzziiiiiiiing , great headline
 
2003-11-22 10:30:57 PM
"What about the spam company employees who'll be laid off??" argument in 3... 2...
 
2003-11-22 10:31:16 PM
Give a law like this enough 'tooth' and it could work.. Note, the gov't is building some big fines and penaltys into this bill and the money goes to the Feds, not the 'spamees'.
 
2003-11-22 10:31:29 PM
This is not going to change anything. It's Congress' way of pleasing their constituants.
The do_not_spam list is amusing, the mother of all valid address lists. Does a lot of good if it gets released, say, outside the US.

Useless bill.
 
2003-11-22 10:36:19 PM
so what happens when someone from an outside nation (china, nigeria*, etc) sends spam? are we going to invade?

hm. i better not give anyone any ideas.

*yes, i know much of the spam "coming from there" originates here... but certainly not all of it.

as far as i know, there is no good solution to this problem at the moment. well, nothing short of stopping the people who actually buy the crap.
 
2003-11-22 10:36:34 PM
I blame Carter.
 
2003-11-22 10:37:56 PM
The government SHOULD NOT be in the business of sticking their noses in Internet regulation. Yeah yeah Yeah...fark spam and all that...but spam should be dealt with via better filtering, improved technology, etc.

Why the fark would anyone in their right minds wanna get the government involved with private citizens emails accounts and Internet access...next thing you know the Internet Tax will go through, dumbass politicians will want to tax you for every minute your online, every online purchase, every email sent, they'll wanna launch more programs like Echelon and Carnivore to spy on your emails and net activity...

all this farking legislation will lead to more big brother and more bullshiat intrusion on our private lives...
 
2003-11-22 10:39:36 PM
Save us Government!

"Can the government be any dumber??? .. oh wait Bush is in charge still huh... DAMMIT" --joebell

This type of stupidity comes from a synergy of the stupids. George W. doesn't have enough stupid super power to pull this off. It takes the entire congress(-5) to get behind such a stupid piece of legislation. I can't wait to see the results.
 
2003-11-22 10:39:55 PM
give the law enough "Tooth"?

a) define spam.
b) establish that your idiot cousin who sends a chain letter to 100 people isn't in category a).

you expect the government to do this?

either they'll fark it up, and it will be a completely useless "law", or everyone who ever sends an email someone else didn't want will wind up in jail with all the weed smokers.
 
2003-11-22 10:40:10 PM
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"You got mail--pattern baldness, woo-hoo."
 
j0n
2003-11-22 10:40:55 PM
If Kennedy wasn't assasinated, this wouldn't be a problem
 
2003-11-22 10:42:39 PM
Can the Govt be any dumber? If only Bush would resign and let joebell take over.
 
2003-11-22 10:44:08 PM
So this implies that there's actually some INVALID email addresses that ENJOY spam?
Alrighty then.
 
2003-11-22 10:45:10 PM
Now, can someone write a law to stop those annoying little leaguers and their damn candy drives from knocking on the front door of the RunningJoke Compound. Deactivating the Claymore mine field is a PAIN IN THE ASS?
 
2003-11-22 10:45:21 PM
2003-11-22 10:37:56 PM macabre:

Why the fark would anyone in their right minds wanna get the government involved with private citizens emails accounts and Internet access..."


Mmmmm... interesting. Ok, now tell us how much do you make each month selling those penis enlargers?
 
2003-11-22 10:45:25 PM


Instantly came to mind
 
2003-11-22 10:46:21 PM
foodnugget
a) define spam.


Everytime they attempt to define spam as unsolicited commercial email they get slapped down by the Direct Marketing Association or some other farking lobby group who pays them off. There's no use in trusting politicians..fark THEM AND fark THIS PSEUDO-DEMOCRACY....people should lobby their ISPs for more server-side filtering and educate themselves, their communities, the public, etc....grassroots all the way, baby
 
2003-11-22 10:47:17 PM
Taxing e-mail would be better than that lame-ass measure.
 
2003-11-22 10:48:52 PM
Taxing e-mail would be better than that lame-ass measure. for me to poop on!
 
2003-11-22 10:49:19 PM
I got this email the other day titled "Do YOU want a 12 inch penis?"

I quickly replied saying "why would I want to cut 3 inches off?"
 
2003-11-22 10:50:18 PM
 
2003-11-22 10:50:21 PM
HAHA...Headline.Good.Funny.Haha
 
2003-11-22 10:51:27 PM
2003-11-22 10:37:56 PM macabre


The government SHOULD NOT be in the business of sticking their noses in Internet regulation. Yeah yeah Yeah...fark spam and all that...but spam should be dealt with via better filtering, improved technology, etc.

Why the fark would anyone in their right minds wanna get the government involved with private citizens emails accounts and Internet access...next thing you know the Internet Tax will go through, dumbass politicians will want to tax you for every minute your online, every online purchase, every email sent, they'll wanna launch more programs like Echelon and Carnivore to spy on your emails and net activity...

all this farking legislation will lead to more big brother and more bullshiat intrusion on our private lives...


Here, here. Well put.

These kinds of laws invariably open the door to more government intrusion and taxation. In fact, this is just the kind of legislation that the politicians would need to set precedent for further intrusion.

Hold onto your keyboards kiddies. It's going to be a rough ride.
 
2003-11-22 10:52:33 PM
POPfile. Free, really easy to use, and it uses Bayesian filtering. After ten minutes of use/training it filtered at 96% accuracy. I'm at two weeks of use now and it's up to 98.79% accuracy and rising.

Screw Congress!

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/
 
2003-11-22 10:54:00 PM
Gabe and Tycho rock. I don't care what any of you say!!!!!

P.S. I am drunk and have no idea why I'm on the frikkin PC right now.
 
2003-11-22 10:54:05 PM
I should mention that I get 200+ spams per day, so there aren't many people with a worse spam problem than me. Well, except maybe for Drew.
 
2003-11-22 10:54:51 PM
w00t! i finally popped my headline cherry.

I couldn't have done it without you guys.

Ok yeah...i probably could have.

All I'm going to say is this - this is the most assinine law. If you want to stop (most) spam...use bayesian filtering and block any mail coming from an open relay. 'nuff said.
 
2003-11-22 10:55:03 PM
California has a similar ban that is supposed to go into effect before this. Why couldn't the federal governement take a wait and see approach before they jump in head first? There is no way the Feds or Ca have the ability to hunt down those in violation. I envision that in the near future, it won't be the commercial emails that get you busted but people like my mom will get rolled for speading the super secret neiman marcus cookie recipe.
Dumb
and don't blame Bush, blame every stupid american who feels like the need to call their congressman for any inconvinience they ever face. Oh, and blame Gore too, not for inventing the internet, but just because I don't like him
 
2003-11-22 10:59:38 PM
Good farking luck with this...
 
2003-11-22 11:01:19 PM
There is a link at the bottom of the page for something about 3G phones. What the hell is a 3G phone?
 
2003-11-22 11:01:45 PM
Only on Fark would people defend the spammers. You guys are a serious bunch of idiots. Word. By the way, filtering doesn't help. It may stop the message from actually reaching your inbox but it doesn't stop the networks from being crushed by the extra bandwidth usage that millions of unsolicited e-mails generate. Every day, Fark gets a little bit dumber.
 
2003-11-22 11:05:12 PM
Just going to hurt legitimate businesses communicating with customers, mailing lists, etc. with bogus lawsuits and such. "Hey, Amazon sent me an order confirmation... let me call my lawyer."

All spam ads have SOME method of purchasing -- just make it so those avenues are followed up and given cease and desist, or are shut down. The gummint still has some jurisdiction over the awarding of domain names. If spamfarker.com wants to send promotional spam, and enough people forward it to a magic e-mail address, spamfarker gets their domain name shut down and don't make a dime. Same with a toll-free number to order generic viagra -- the number gets shut off.

Of course, that could backfire if I send out an e-mail posing as my main competitor...

Better still, let's get the RIAA to go after all the spamfarkers...
 
2003-11-22 11:06:00 PM
I like SPAM, really I do! I like to cut it thin, oh about a 1/3 of an inch or so, and fry it, so it is crispy on the outside, warm and soft on the inside. Slap it down on a couople of toasted pieces of bread with some mayonaisse and BAM! You got yourself some tasty vittles!!!!
Oooohhhh......spam, the much maligned dearth of electronic communication, can't say as I like the stuff.....really sucks IMHO.
 
2003-11-22 11:07:44 PM
Good headline submitter-
 
2003-11-22 11:10:01 PM
Yes...this is fine...as long as I can still make her scream..
 
2003-11-22 11:11:08 PM
<b>RunningJoke:</b>
Go rip off somebody else's act, you Pekinese whore!
 
2003-11-22 11:13:05 PM
I dont know why you people gripe about spam e-mails. I get maybe 2-3 every other week, AT THE MOST...yeah...obviously there is a reason, and there is a reason some of you guys seem to get tons (200+ a day? wtf dude?). maybe you should figger that shiat out, like I have
 
2003-11-22 11:14:09 PM
At least the Do Not Spam list can be tested using throw-away addresses.
 
2003-11-22 11:15:23 PM
2003-11-22 10:37:56 PM
macabre

The government SHOULD NOT be in the business of sticking their noses in Internet regulation. Yeah yeah Yeah...fark spam and all that...but spam should be dealt with via better filtering, improved technology, etc.

//

Exactly.

Also, marketing like this is a legitimate business. Trying to get it outlawed like this is simply appalling. You have the right to try and keep them from bothering you, but they also have the right to try and solicit to you. It should be up to the individal to stave off sellers. Don't run to Mommy Government.
 
2003-11-22 11:16:56 PM
Okay, first of all BobQuasit STOP! using those damn submit for removal links at the bottom of the spam mails. All that does, is verify you existence, and make you *valuable* as a list name to be sold to whoever will pay.

This, is how you get added to more lists.

DO! upgrade your mail client to Outlook, or Eudora or something that has mail filtering.

You can try mailwasher as well, don't have a URL but google it.

Thirdly, get a *public* email account at hotmail or yahoo to give out, when you need to register for something. Use your personal home email for those people you actually forward those X-rated joke emails to.
 
2003-11-22 11:18:58 PM
i send this 'form mail' to my senator as they senate seems to be too afraid to publish their own email address on their pages.

I hand delivered and written letter to my senators office on this issue.

Senator Schumer,

Over the summer I dropped off a letter to your NYC office
regarding some issues surrounding the spam bill you were
presenting. One of the major issues I pointed out was the
folly of an 'do not spam' list. On that note i would like to let
you know what people are saying about this idea. This one
happens to be from the popular meta-news site fark.com

"US Government to give spammers a gigantic list of valid
email addresses not to spam. Also appoints Michael Jackson
as Secretary of Daycare"

I sincerely hope that next time a technology issue comes
some care is taken to find someone that is more
knowledgeable.
 
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