impaler: FFS. "Out of context" does not mean "words preceded or followed the quote" you damn ignoramus. I'm failing to see how the "full context" changes anything.
Cletus C.: What Romney said was actually the nice story of a successful businessman.
LordStormes: If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business - you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.Obama was referring to the "American system", which is singular, hence, "You didn't build THAT." It was a bit awkward with the "roads and bridges" sentence in-between. Pick your poison. Do you want the man to speak from the heart, and not craft every word precisely for how it could be twisted by desperate opponents? Because when he has done that, Republicans accused him of being an empty teleprompter.At what point can anyone who has a letter after their name that doesn't match yours do ANYTHING right? America is roughly 50% Republican and 50% Democrat. Thus, the Senate and House will both always be pretty close to that. The presidential elections (popular-vote wise) are all close to that. When are we going to accept that no majority big enough to do ANYTHING will ever realistically exist, and as such, the only way to make ANY progress is to drop the bullshiat and look for common ground?
cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Would have been simpler if he'd just said this:"Ask not what you have done for your country, ask what your country has done for you."As I said yesterday, the only person in the world who is successful without their country doing something for them is Somali warlord Mohammed Farah Aidid.
Cletus C.: impaler: tenpoundsofcheese: The difference is that the build it line was in context.- he would have said "those" not that if he meant infrastructure.- antecedents, how do they work?Let's pretend 10lbsOfDerp has a point. Which of these two sentences make sense?"People invested in roads and bridges, if you have a business, you didn't build the business""People invested in roads and bridges, if you have a business, you didn't build the roads and bridges"Keep in mind this was a speech about how no one is an island.What point does the first part of the sentence have? It's nonsensical if "that" isn't referring to the first part of the sentence.Republican scum like tenpoundsofcheese are such dishonest liars, they have to lie about lying.Would have been simpler if he'd just said this:"Ask not what you have done for your country, ask what your country has done for you."
I alone am best: Romney was just saying that to succeed you need to take a risk which is why he illustrated it with a story. Jimmy John was not going to school, so he took the risk of having to join the military against his wishes because his father attached those conditions on the loan.Castro took it as "DERRRR You need to borrow money from your parents to succeed."
tenpoundsofcheese: It is a lie to claim that it was not in context, just like they whine that the context of Warren's Indian claims are wrong.
Vodka Zombie: What is with all the Republican whining today?
relcec: the guy who got into standford with a 1200 SAT is lecturing others about unearned oppurtunities.
DarwiOdrade: Castro: "'Borrow money if you have to from your parents,' he told them."Romney: "Take a risk, get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents. Start a business."What's the problem again?
Three Crooked Squirrels: When Castro said that line in his speech last night, I was surprised. I thought to myself "Huh. How did I miss that? If Romney said that, I'm sure I would have not only heard about it, but would have also been in a Fark thread about it." Then I listened to the rest of the speech and went to bed.This morning, I tune into this Fark headline. My first thought "Huh. I guess I didn't miss it. Castro made it up and Newsbusters caught him."Then I read the Newsbusters article and realized, nope, not made up at all. Not a lie, not taken out of context. I guess I did just miss this the first time around.
Vodka Zombie: dickfreckle: Kome: Vodka Zombie: What is with all the Republican whining today?Today?I see I'm not needed here.Well, yeah... They do whine every... freaking... day. But, today, they really seem to have stepped it up.
timujin: It seems, perhaps, that Romney was saying "borrow money from your parents" not to start a business, but to go to school.
Lando Lincoln: Lionel Mandrake: Except of course, when Romney said "borrow money from your parents" he actually meant borrow money from your parents.But he MEANT 'borrow money from your parents only as a last resort.'See? TOTALLY different meaning.
Diogenes: "You didn't build that."I guess sound bite isolation from context and cherry-picking is only OK if you're Republican.
MrBallou: So One = Several in derpmitter math?
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