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(NewsBusters)   Democrats Key Note speaker makes up several Romney quotes that never were said. Of course this isn't worthy of the so called "fact checkers" time   (newsbusters.org ) divider line 231
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2012-09-05 07:37:32 PM  

Doc Lee: Is the author retarded?

Yes , as a matter of fact
www.sadlyno.com
 
2012-09-05 07:39:54 PM  
What an utter failwreck of a 'fact check'.
 
2012-09-05 07:42:38 PM  

impaler: magusdevil: Congratulations you're more intellectually honest than Fox News and the RNC

He was still arguing "that" referred to the business. That doesn't make him more intellectually honest. He's just makes him stupid.


Actually, I was arguing that it was a stupid speech at just the wrong time.

Government does all. Without government you are nothing.

Does Obama really need that?
 
2012-09-05 07:47:25 PM  

amiable: Off topic, Rush Limbaugh just said that "Obama isn't black because he doesn't have slave-blood". I predict this is going to go well.


The fat man is too wedged in the media empire to really get in trouble with that.
 
2012-09-05 07:54:17 PM  

Cletus C.: impaler: magusdevil: Congratulations you're more intellectually honest than Fox News and the RNC

He was still arguing "that" referred to the business. That doesn't make him more intellectually honest. He's just makes him stupid.

Actually, I was arguing that it was a stupid speech at just the wrong time.

Government does all. Without government you are nothing.


Does Obama really need that?


No. Which makes it a good thing he didn't say that.
 
2012-09-05 07:54:54 PM  
I know it's bad form to comment on the joke, but seriously, that was hilarious.
 
2012-09-05 08:14:38 PM  

sprawl15: whidbey: Would you people quit bumping this thread??

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www.ivandavidoff.com
 
2012-09-05 08:21:57 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: "You didn't build that."

I guess sound bite isolation from context and cherry-picking is only OK if you're Republican.

HA!

Except of course, when Romney said "borrow money from your parents" he actually meant borrow money from your parents.


wouldn't it be cheaper on you in the long run if you could borrow the money from your parents or relatives rather than from some big coporate bank? If that options is available to you, why not take it?

/my two sons are working their way through college, wiht NO LOANS. OHMYGAWD!!! How will they be able to do it without help from fartbongo and his minions?
 
2012-09-05 08:27:31 PM  

Tumunga: Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: "You didn't build that."

I guess sound bite isolation from context and cherry-picking is only OK if you're Republican.

HA!

Except of course, when Romney said "borrow money from your parents" he actually meant borrow money from your parents.

wouldn't it be cheaper on you in the long run if you could borrow the money from your parents or relatives rather than from some big coporate bank? If that options is available to you, why not take it?

/my two sons are working their way through college, wiht NO LOANS. OHMYGAWD!!! How will they be able to do it without help from fartbongo and his minions?


Clown college is pretty cheap.
 
2012-09-05 08:28:12 PM  
the comments on the newsbuster site are fantastic. there's about 40 threads of a guy explaining that he was being sarcastic and not really a liberal, its gold jerry!
 
2012-09-05 08:29:09 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Castro: "'Borrow money if you have to from your parents,' he told them."
Romney: "Take a risk, get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents. Start a business."

What's the problem again?


Dems believe you can't start a business. You can only work for, or get money from, the government.

/this is what they actually believe now.
//they didn't used to.
 
2012-09-05 08:30:50 PM  

Tumunga: DarwiOdrade: Castro: "'Borrow money if you have to from your parents,' he told them."
Romney: "Take a risk, get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents. Start a business."

What's the problem again?

Dems believe you can't start a business. You can only work for, or get money from, the government.

/this is what they actually believe now.
//they didn't used to.


Disingenuous statement is disingenuous. I'm shocked by this revelation.
 
2012-09-05 08:31:06 PM  
Yeah, maybe the Democrats shouldn't have made ""Take a shot, go for it, take a risk, get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents, start a business," As the theme of the convention. But, my heavens, the posters, the t-shirts, the constant yelling back from the crowd, "My parents don't have $20,000 to loan me" got to be a little much.
 
2012-09-05 08:47:26 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Jackson Herring: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

It's pederasty, you sick farks

Wouldn't they all fall under the heading "pedophilia"?


HA!
 
2012-09-05 08:52:47 PM  
Didn't read the whole thread, but I love Newsbuster's schtick. It's all about casting aspersions and just hoping their readers don't have the intellectual honesty or stamina to actually comprehend the substance of the article. The person who runs the site must do some serious mental gymnastics to sustain his warped ethical views
 
2012-09-05 08:53:59 PM  

magusdevil: Cletus C.: magusdevil: Cletus C.: impaler: tenpoundsofcheese: The difference is that the build it line was in context.
- he would have said "those" not that if he meant infrastructure.
- antecedents, how do they work?

Let's pretend 10lbsOfDerp has a point. Which of these two sentences make sense?

"People invested in roads and bridges, if you have a business, you didn't build the business"
"People invested in roads and bridges, if you have a business, you didn't build the roads and bridges"

Keep in mind this was a speech about how no one is an island.

What point does the first part of the sentence have? It's nonsensical if "that" isn't referring to the first part of the sentence.

Republican scum like tenpoundsofcheese are such dishonest liars, they have to lie about lying.

Would have been simpler if he'd just said this:

"Ask not what you have done for your country, ask what your country has done for you."

If it's really so obvious that Obama was saying "you didn't build that business" why is the speech so carefully edited every time its shown by the GOP or Fox News? Why not just show the additional 3 seconds? Is it because Republicans are compulsive liars and can't stop themselves? Or are you just full of crap?

You know how I know you're not talking about me? Because I posted the whole thing earlier.

Congratulations you're more intellectually honest than Fox News and the RNC. Also, you're the thinnest kid at fat camp.


And he misunderstood it. He's the smartest kid on the short bus.
 
2012-09-05 08:57:15 PM  
Wow, Republicans are stupid, who knew?
 
2012-09-05 09:25:31 PM  
Liautaud founded Jimmy John's in 1983 after graduating second to last in his class at Elgin Academy (1982) and receiving the choice from his father to join the military, go to college, or start a business.
Liautaud chose the latter and accepted his father's $25,000 loan to start a hot dog business - with Liautaud owning 52% of the business and his father owning 48%.[5] After realizing a hot dog business would cost more than anticipated, Liautaud opened his first sandwich shop.
 
2012-09-05 09:33:35 PM  

Serious Black: I alone am best: Romney was just saying that to succeed you need to take a risk which is why he illustrated it with a story. Jimmy John was not going to school, so he took the risk of having to join the military against his wishes because his father attached those conditions on the loan.

Castro took it as "DERRRR You need to borrow money from your parents to succeed."

That's hilarious given the story of how Romney was given Bain Capital with a ludicrous sweetheart deal that, if the company failed, he would not only get his old job at Bain and Company back WITH RAISES, but they would craft a cover story explaining how they valued his consultant skills when he returned so as to not ruin his reputation. Mitt Romney's life is all about not taking risks.


Hedging one's bets isn't a dumb or unfair thing to do but I do agree it is pretty disingenuous to think Mittens has as much to lose in a start up business situation as those of us who aren't retardedly well connected would.
 
2012-09-05 09:40:43 PM  

TheAnalogKid: Liautaud founded Jimmy John's in 1983 after graduating second to last in his class at Elgin Academy (1982) and receiving the choice from his father to join the military, go to college, or start a business.
Liautaud chose the latter and accepted his father's $25,000 loan to start a hot dog business - with Liautaud owning 52% of the business and his father owning 48%.[5] After realizing a hot dog business would cost more than anticipated, Liautaud opened his first sandwich shop.


Jimmy Johns sucks.
 
2012-09-05 09:51:17 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

You didn't build that.
 
2012-09-05 10:41:57 PM  

Cletus C.: Hypocritical doesn't even begin to capture this predictable and tiring farklib shadow boxing. What Romney said was clearly twisted out of context. What Romney said was actually the nice story of a successful businessman.



Castro PRETENDED that Romney said "...start a business," and "...borrow money if you have to from your parents"

Obviously a lie.

What Romney ACTUALLY said was "...borrow money if you have to from your parents. Start a business."


Totally different.
 
2012-09-05 10:50:07 PM  

Doc Lee: Is the author retarded?


He works for NewsBusters, it's kind of a pre-requisite.
 
2012-09-05 10:56:18 PM  

Tumunga: my two sons are working their way through college


Going where and doing what to pay for it?
Do they live by themselves, or in your basement?
Do they have scholarships?
 
2012-09-05 11:55:20 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: Tumunga: my two sons are working their way through college

Going where and doing what to pay for it?
Do they live by themselves, or in your basement?
Do they have scholarships?


Do they spit?
Or swallow?
 
2012-09-05 11:55:40 PM  

impaler: timujin: It seems, perhaps, that Romney was saying "borrow money from your parents" not to start a business, but to go to school.

Tough to say.

Romney: We've always encouraged young people take it, take a shot, go for it. Take a risk, get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents. Start a business.

I was with a guy named Jimmy John. I've met Jimmy John. Jimmy John, hope I get the story entirely right, I think I will, he graduated from high school, and he didn't want to go to college. And he said to his Dad can I borrow some money I want to start a business. His dad said, "I just don't think you've got the discipline to start a business and make it work." And he said, "I'll loan you the money but if you can't pay it back with interest by the end of the year I want you to go into the military and sign up." And he said, "Okay I'll do that."


I'm utterly shocked that the rich view military service as a punishment.
 
2012-09-06 12:07:14 AM  

spamdog: Didn't read the whole thread, but I love Newsbuster's schtick. It's all about casting aspersions and just hoping their readers don't have the intellectual honesty or stamina to actually comprehend the substance of the article. The person who runs the site must do some serious mental gymnastics be paid a lot by pro-GOP PACs to sustain his warped ethical views


FTFY
 
2012-09-06 12:09:29 AM  

More_Like_A_Stain: Do they spit?
Or swallow?


Naw, just wondering how it's done.
I worked through my entire time spent at college, graduates in 2009, and my paycheck couldn't cover living expenses and tuition, so I still came out with debt even though I went to a cheaper state school. Hell, tuition, fees, and books cost more than rent.
Whenever someone says they or their close friends/relatives are working to put themselves through college, I balk. That just isn't doable for the average person. It always comes down to one or more of a few things:
1) They have a job that pays more and with greater flexibility than the average college student has access to.
2) They have a place to stay free or extremely cheap, usually in the form of a family member, and thus have less need to spend their paychecks on rent. utlities, food, etc.
3) Scholarships, which don't count as "working" through college
 
2012-09-06 03:11:03 AM  
Those darn liberals at Politifact went ahead and rated it.
 
2012-09-06 04:37:55 AM  
i46.tinypic.com

author is baby-blue-clamdiggers-on-head retarded
 
2012-09-06 10:18:06 AM  

ivan: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

The OED differs with you:


Cool! Self-referential meta-pedantry!

(And it's actually "pedantarism")
 
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