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2012-09-05 06:04:51 PM

Mikey1969: So where are the rest of the "several" false statements? The story only rings up one, and then promptly backs the statement up, so really you have "several"="none" at this point, subby.

/just because Romney makes shiat up out of thin air, it doesn't mean that you can get away with it on Fark.


By "several" they mean "one."

And by "one" I mean "none."
 
2012-09-05 06:04:58 PM

relcec: the guy who got into standford with a 1200 SAT is lecturing others about unearned oppurtunities.


What do you base your assertion that Obama got a 1200 SAT? You have some sort of evidence? I ask because I know you don't.
 
2012-09-05 06:05:20 PM

TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.


The OED differs with you:

pedantry, n.

Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈpɛdntri/ , U.S. /ˈpɛd(ə)ntri/

Forms: 16 paedantry, 16 pedanterie, 16 pedantery, 17- pedantry.

Etymology:
1. The character, habit of mind, or practice of a pedant.

a. Mere academic learning, without judgement or discrimination; excessive reverence for or display of learning or technical knowledge; intellectual conceit.

[1585 A. Munday tr. L. Pasqualigo Fedele & Fortunio ii. v. sig. Div, I would I could meete with master Pedayntrye, To knowe what his maister saith to the chauntrye.]
1612 J. Donne Progresse of Soule ii. 291 When wilt thou shake off this pedantery Of being taught by sense and fantasie?
1646 Sir T. Browne Pseudodoxia Epidemica i. vi. 24 A practise that savours much of Pedantery.
1710 R. Steele Tatler No. 224. ⁋7 Pedantry proceeds from much Reading and little Understanding.
1766 J. Fordyce Serm. Young Women (1767) I. vii. 298 That men are frighted at Female pedantry is very certain.
1841 I. D'Israeli Amenities Lit. I. 159 The pedantry of mixing Greek and Latin terms in the vernacular language is ridiculed by Rabelais.
1878 H. James Watch & Ward v. 88 He was gentle without timidity, frank without arrogance, clever without pedantry.
1979 D. Thomas Swinburne x. 219 He was the..faded little poet, with an enthusiasm for books & pedantry which was..reminiscent of an eccentric don.
2003 Jrnl. News (Westchester County, N.Y.) (Nexis) 23 Nov. 4 e, There's no showiness in his erudition, no pedantry in his wisdom, no ingratiation in his wit.

b. Excessive or undue concern for petty details; slavish adherence to formal precision, rules, or literal meaning.

[1724 Swift Let. to Molesworth 4 The Pedantry of a Drapier in the Terms of his own Trade.]
1759 A. Smith Theory Moral Sentiments iii. 308 Tho' it may be aukward and pedantic..to affect too strict an adherence to the common rules of prudence or generosity, there is no pedantry in sticking fast by the rules of justice.
1845 S. Austin tr. L. von Ranke Hist. Reformation in Germany III. 124 Even Erasmus, spite of the favour he enjoyed at court, found no mercy from monkish pedantry.
1863 P. Barry Dockyard Econ. 119 He who slavishly adheres to rule displays pedantry at every turn.
1902 A. M. Fairbairn Philos. Christian Relig. ii. ii. 410 To require that every element in a figurative word be found again in the reality it denotes, is not exegesis but pedantry.
1940 N. & Q. 179 278/1 The shell fragments which are at present descending upon its devoted head are unhesitatingly referred to by the public as 'shrapnel' and the correct expression, 'shell fragments', has begun to verge on pedantry.
2000 C. Tudge Variety of Life i. iii. 53 The cladists' refusal to recognize any group as a formal taxon unless it is a true clade strikes many as pedantry.

2. As a count noun: an instance of pedantic behaviour; a pedantic form of expression.

[a1586 Sir P. Sidney Apol. Poetrie (1595) sig. B1v, Skill of gouernment, was but a Pedanteria in comparison.]
1656 T. Blount Glossographia, Pedanteries, pedantick humors, phrase affectings, Inkhorn terms. Br.
1778 T. Warton Hist. Eng. Poetry II. xxv. 133 The narrow pedantries of monastic erudition.
1779 Ann. Reg. 1778 Characters 23/2 Would Chaucer's poems have been the delight of those courts in which he lived, had they been filled with unintelligible pedantries?
1850 E. Johnson Life, Health, & Dis. Pref. p. xi, I have avoided all professional pedantries and learned technicalities, whenever it could be done consistently with perspicuity.
a1859 L. Hunt Poet. Wks. (1860) 56 To be so nice, and stand, profess'd, All truth, was held a pedantry at best.
1909 C. Thomas Hist. German Lit. xiii. 235 It is shown that the wonderful rules of the haute tragédie are in good part mere pedantries, based on a misunderstanding of Aristotle.
2003 Southland (N.Z.) Times 21 Oct. 4 Developers..complain about officious bureaucrats and their many pedantries.
 
2012-09-05 06:05:51 PM
Really? REALLY!!!??? You have to stretch this far to call something out of context. ha ha ha. Hope you're having fun avoiding reality GOPmitter.
 
2012-09-05 06:07:12 PM

Mikey1969: timujin: It seems, perhaps, that Romney was saying "borrow money from your parents" not to start a business, but to go to school.

Nope, his Jimmy Johns story is specifically about someone who didn't want to go to school, so his message really is 'Fark school, borrow money from your parents, and you too can be a super successful businessman.'.


Yes, you're correct, I saw that above when Impaler posted that part of the quote. I had only read the one part that I was referring to, which could have been construed to mean he was saying you could borrow money from your parents to go to school.

The point is, though, the idea that you can just "borrow money from your parents" to go to school or start a business demonstrates yet another way in which Romney has no concept of what it is like to be an "average" American these days.
 
2012-09-05 06:07:33 PM

Vodka Zombie: What is with all the Republican whining today?


They're feeling really confident and not at all butthurt or doubtful about their candidate's chances in November after the DNC's disastrous opening night last night.
 
2012-09-05 06:07:35 PM

Serious Black: RyogaM: I thought he meant borrow money for college, which, yeah, stupid, because it assumes everyone's got parents that have money lying around. But, now, good lord, the stupid has been kicked up into high gear. I never knew he advised high school graduates to borrow tens of thousands from their parents to start a new business. That's just completely, retardedly, wildly irresponsible. Might as well tell kids to screw college and start a band 'cause then all the chicks will dig you. Also, try blow.

I tried blow once. I wouldn't recommend it. Ended up with two different types of gonorrhea, three types of hepatitis, and super-AIDS.


Sounds like a fairly tame weekend. Good thing the first time is free, right?
 
2012-09-05 06:07:55 PM

relcec: Serious Black: relcec: the guy who got into standford with a 1200 SAT is lecturing others about unearned oppurtunities.

Since when were standardized tests a good metric of intelligence and skill?

wtf are you tlaking about? you saying he took an IQ test and that is why he got in?


I'm sure you are OUTRAGED that George Bush got into Yale with a 1200 SAT.
 
2012-09-05 06:07:57 PM

SilentStrider: Vodka Zombie: dickfreckle: Kome: Vodka Zombie: What is with all the Republican whining today?

Today?

I see I'm not needed here.

Well, yeah... They do whine every... freaking... day. But, today, they really seem to have stepped it up.

Clinton speaking tonight, Derpcon 2.
Obama tomorrow will be Derpcon 1.


the debates?
Derponuclear war will be derpclared. It will be worse than the herpacaust.
 
2012-09-05 06:08:02 PM

Zik-Zak: ivan: You have nowhere to turn. The party on the right has fallen to extremes you can't stomach. The party on the left is repulsive to you. A man who gets into Stanford with a 1200 SAT fills your heart with black resentment. You can find no joy in his good fortune, yet you can't find joy in hating it either.

You are lost, relcec.

Why's it got to be black?



"Mauve resentment" didn't sound right.
 
2012-09-05 06:08:40 PM

Fart_Machine: Cletus C.: Hypocritical doesn't even begin to capture this predictable and tiring farklib shadow boxing. What Romney said was clearly twisted out of context. What Romney said was actually the nice story of a successful businessman.

Yet the distortion and lies Castro applied to that story earn full-throat defense here. Pathetic.

Here is what Obama said, by the way. With full context.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That's how we funded the G.I. Bill. That's how we created the middle class. That's how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That's how we invented the Internet. That's how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that's the reason I'm running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You're not on your own, we're in this together."

So your point is you fail at reading comprehension?


Yes, I strive to make that point as often as possible.

Given the opportunity to use his famous time machine, would Obama rip that speech to shreds? Oh in a heartbeat, for sure.

Not because it would later be taken out of context but because it comes across as the sort of big-government, welfare state elitism he gets hammered by so often. Stupid speech at the wrong time.
 
2012-09-05 06:08:42 PM

Cletus C.: Hypocritical doesn't even begin to capture this predictable and tiring farklib shadow boxing. What Romney said was clearly twisted out of context. What Romney said was actually the nice story of a successful businessman.

Yet the distortion and lies Castro applied to that story earn full-throat defense here. Pathetic.

Here is what Obama said, by the way. With full context.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That's how we funded the G.I. Bill. That's how we created the middle class. That's how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That's how we invented the Internet. That's how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that's the reason I'm running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You're not on your own, we're in this together."


And the GOP has managed to line up small business owner after small business owner who claim they got there on their own, only to be shown the millions and millions of dollars of government help they got along the way. If the Republicans managed to find one, JUST ONE, small business owner who didn't get government loans or grants or some kind of assistance, maybe you'd have a point. But you don't. And you don't even know it. And that's pathetic.
 
2012-09-05 06:09:15 PM

TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.


It's pederasty, you sick farks
 
2012-09-05 06:09:18 PM

Cletus C.: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

It's I "couldn't" care less. Also a common mistake.


ivan: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

The OED differs with you:

pedantry, n.


You guys are really towing the line on this pedantry.
 
2012-09-05 06:10:30 PM

magusdevil: And the GOP has managed to line up small business owner after small business owner who claim they got there on their own, only to be shown the millions and millions of dollars of government help they got along the way. If the Republicans managed to find one, JUST ONE, s ...


The GOP only has to thank Obama for delivering them that gift of a speech.
 
2012-09-05 06:11:09 PM
The point the Democrats were making is that nobody's parents have money to loan them, and nothing in Romney's quote that runs contrary to that point. My dad is a disabled stroke victim, and without universal health care, he lost everything when he couldn't work. He HAD a small business that he built with no government help, employing about 15 people and doing a lot of public good. As a private investigator, he worked 18-hour days and took cases the police didn't have time for, and worked them for free when women or children were at risk. Now, I'm struggling to start a small business in my field after I couldn't find a job in it after college. I've done OK parlaying my skills into other employment in the meantime. I've had to beg my dad not to feel ashamed of himself - not because he needs help getting around the house, but that he couldn't give me the money I need to get that business off the ground. That's the America we live in. You can work your butt off, help people, play by the rules, and still get screwed if anything bad happens. Too many Americans are on the ropes, and Romney's solution is, "borrow money from your rich parents." I'm glad for Mitt that his dad was well-off enough that he can do that. Should I have kids, I hope that I can do that for them, like my dad would have done for me if he had the means. But assuming everybody has a rich dad is not going to solve the real-world problems we face, and nothing Castro said in that regard was in any way inaccurate.
 
2012-09-05 06:11:46 PM

Jackson Herring: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

It's pederasty, you sick farks


Wouldn't they all fall under the heading "pedophilia"?
 
2012-09-05 06:12:11 PM

ivan: Zik-Zak: ivan: You have nowhere to turn. The party on the right has fallen to extremes you can't stomach. The party on the left is repulsive to you. A man who gets into Stanford with a 1200 SAT fills your heart with black resentment. You can find no joy in his good fortune, yet you can't find joy in hating it either.

You are lost, relcec.

Why's it got to be black?



"Mauve resentment" didn't sound right.


i157.photobucket.com

Good point.
 
2012-09-05 06:12:19 PM

magusdevil: relcec: the guy who got into standford with a 1200 SAT is lecturing others about unearned oppurtunities.

What do you base your assertion that Obama got a 1200 SAT? You have some sort of evidence? I ask because I know you don't.


talking about the guy who was criticizing romney, a guy who said he only got to go to stanford because he is of mexican ancestory. that is who the article is about.
btw, obama didn't go to stanford.


not that any cares:

Link
I. Validity of Admissions Factors in Predicting Cumulative Fourth-Year GPA
We begin with findings on the relative contribution of admissions factors in predicting
cumulative four-year college GPA. Table 4 shows the percentage of explained variance
in cumulative fourth-year GPA that is accounted for by HSGPA, SAT I verbal and math
scores, and SAT II Writing, Mathematics and Third Test scores. The estimated effects of
these admissions factors on cumulative fourth-year GPA were analyzed both singly and
in combination. Parents' education, family income and school API rank were also
included in all of the regression models in order to control for the "proxy" effects, noted
above, of socioeconomic status on standardized test scores and other admissions
variables.
Three main conclusions can be drawn from Table 4. First, looking at the admissions
factors individually - Models 1 to 3 in the table - HSGPA is the best single predictor of
cumulative fourth-year college GPA, accounting for 20.4 percent of the variance in a
model that also includes socioeconomic background variables (Model 1, right-hand
column). SAT II scores, including students' scores on the SAT II Writing, Math and
Third Subject Test (Model 3), are the next-best predictor, accounting for 16.9 percent of
the variance
. Students' scores on the SAT I verbal and math tests (Model 2) rank last,
accounting for just 13.4 percent of the variance in cumulative fourth-year college grades,
controlling for socioeconomic background variables.xiv
 
2012-09-05 06:12:42 PM

impaler:
I was with a guy named Jimmy John. I've met Jimmy John. Jimmy John, hope I get the story entirely right, I think I will, he graduated from high school, and he didn't want to go to college. And he said to his Dad can I borrow some money I want to start a business. His dad said, "I just don't think you've got the discipline to start a business and make it work." And he said, "I'll loan you the money but if you can't pay it back with interest by the end of the year I want you to go into the military and sign up." And he said, "Okay I'll do that."


So, while you're insinuating that everybody's got a rich daddy to borrow money from, let's in the same breath say, "Serving in the Armed Forces is something you should only do as a last resort if you're not good at business like me and Jimmy."
 
2012-09-05 06:12:54 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: Serious Black: RyogaM: I thought he meant borrow money for college, which, yeah, stupid, because it assumes everyone's got parents that have money lying around. But, now, good lord, the stupid has been kicked up into high gear. I never knew he advised high school graduates to borrow tens of thousands from their parents to start a new business. That's just completely, retardedly, wildly irresponsible. Might as well tell kids to screw college and start a band 'cause then all the chicks will dig you. Also, try blow.

I tried blow once. I wouldn't recommend it. Ended up with two different types of gonorrhea, three types of hepatitis, and super-AIDS.

Sounds like a fairly tame weekend. Good thing the first time is free, right?


If by "free," you mean "free with a complimentary bareback milk job from the dealer," then sure.
 
2012-09-05 06:14:03 PM
IS OK WHEN WE DO IT
 
2012-09-05 06:14:06 PM
Next up, Romney advises the young people to play the state lottery, often, with money borrowed from their parents, or Nic, the dude who knows that dude that killed the guy. You know, Nic. I'm sure he won't break both your legs if your Megamillions don't come in.
 
2012-09-05 06:14:07 PM

Lando Lincoln: Cletus C.: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

It's I "couldn't" care less. Also a common mistake.

ivan: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

The OED differs with you:

pedantry, n.

You guys are really towing the line on this pedantry.


sfw.chanarchive.org
this guy...
 
2012-09-05 06:15:09 PM

make me some tea: Drew's trolling the Politics tab today I see.


And yet, here we are. Beats my Facebook feed of derpitude since I foolishly re-connected with some old people in my family.
 
2012-09-05 06:15:24 PM

Diogenes: "You didn't build that."

I guess sound bite isolation from context and cherry-picking is only OK if you're Republican.


The difference is that the build it line was in context.
- he would have said "those" not that if he meant infrastructure.
- antecedents, how do they work?
- how many business owners claim that they built the roads and bridges? None. so why would 0bama have to remind them that they didn't build the roads and bridges?

The line about borrowing money was not.
 
2012-09-05 06:15:37 PM

Cletus C.: magusdevil: And the GOP has managed to line up small business owner after small business owner who claim they got there on their own, only to be shown the millions and millions of dollars of government help they got along the way. If the Republicans managed to find one, JUST ONE, s ...

The GOP only has to thank Obama for delivering them that gift of a speech.


The gift of a speech that the Republicans then lied about and it hasn't worked for them?
 
2012-09-05 06:15:51 PM

Cletus C.: What Romney said was actually the nice story of a successful businessman.


What Romney said, and what everyone in this thread is trying to point out, is terribly tone deaf and a bit cruel. The overwhelming majority of American youth don't have the option to get a business or student loan from their parents because the overwhelming majority of American parents don't have that kind of money lying around. That's reality for millions of Americans.

What's more telling is what he didn't say: Get a student loan from the government. Get a subsidized business loan from a federal program. Because those things are anathema to the Republican platform. They want to tear down these social programs that provide opportunity and invest in Americans -- and it's totally fine in their minds because you can just go to your parents for the money, right?
 
2012-09-05 06:15:53 PM

Cletus C.: Yes, I strive to make that point as often as possible.


That's what I figured.

You're doing a great job. Keep up the good fail.
 
2012-09-05 06:16:33 PM

Bhasayate: IS OK WHEN WE DO IT


We know it's okay when Republicans do it. 128 comments in and you couldn't figure out that it wasn't a lie?
 
2012-09-05 06:17:55 PM

Vodka Zombie: What is with all the Republican whining today?


They're just showing the lefts true colors.
 
2012-09-05 06:18:18 PM
Let's just call them "JewsBusters". Busting the balls of the Jewish liberal media without a shred of intelligence, fact or decency.
 
2012-09-05 06:18:22 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: magusdevil: And the GOP has managed to line up small business owner after small business owner who claim they got there on their own, only to be shown the millions and millions of dollars of government help they got along the way. If the Republicans managed to find one, JUST ONE, s ...

The GOP only has to thank Obama for delivering them that gift of a speech.

The gift of a speech that the Republicans then lied about and it hasn't worked for them?


Keep thinking that.
It is a lie to claim that it was not in context, just like they whine that the context of Warren's Indian claims are wrong.
He was trying to channel Warren and failed.

Denial is not a river in Spain.
 
2012-09-05 06:18:52 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Diogenes: "You didn't build that."

I guess sound bite isolation from context and cherry-picking is only OK if you're Republican.

The difference is that the build it line was in context.
- he would have said "those" not that if he meant infrastructure.
- antecedents, how do they work?
- how many business owners claim that they built the roads and bridges? None. so why would 0bama have to remind them that they didn't build the roads and bridges?

The line about borrowing money was not.


Infrastructure is singular term, thus, you would "build THAT".
 
2012-09-05 06:19:27 PM

Cletus C.: too stupid; didn't read.


Listen, moron:Farklib is not a word. Fark Indepent(tm) is a word and it's trademarked, for God's sake. Stop embiggening the language; it's not cromulent.
 
2012-09-05 06:19:38 PM

Cletus C.: magusdevil: And the GOP has managed to line up small business owner after small business owner who claim they got there on their own, only to be shown the millions and millions of dollars of government help they got along the way. If the Republicans managed to find one, JUST ONE, s ...

The GOP only has to thank Obama for delivering them that gift of a speech.


But Romney's "Borrow money from your parents" is just beyond the pale, I see. My bad. I forgot you were an idiot for a second.
 
2012-09-05 06:20:49 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: The difference is that the build it line was in context.
- he would have said "those" not that if he meant infrastructure.
- antecedents, how do they work?
- how many business owners claim that they built the roads and bridges? None. so why would 0bama have to remind them that they didn't build the roads and bridges?


This is the saddest attempt to spin this lie to date.

Just wanted you to know.
 
2012-09-05 06:20:50 PM

Serious Black: relcec: the guy who got into standford with a 1200 SAT is lecturing others about unearned oppurtunities.

Since when were standardized tests a good metric of intelligence and skill?


They are at "standford". reclec would know.
 
2012-09-05 06:21:16 PM

ghare: Cletus C.: too stupid; didn't read.


Listen, moron:Farklib is not a word. Fark Indepent Fark Independent(tm) is a word and it's trademarked, for God's sake. Stop embiggening the language; it's not cromulent.

ftfm dAMN PADS
 
2012-09-05 06:21:45 PM

Lando Lincoln: Cletus C.: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

It's I "couldn't" care less. Also a common mistake.

ivan: TalenLee: Lando Lincoln: I could care less about any of this pedantry.

It's 'pedarism,' don't worry, people make that mistake a lot.

The OED differs with you:

pedantry, n.

You guys are really towing the line on this pedantry.


Irregardless, you should of been more careful.
 
2012-09-05 06:22:10 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: It is a lie to claim that it was not in context, just like they whine that the context of Warren's Indian claims are wrong.


Please explain how, in context, Barack Obama said that business owners didn't build their own businesses, rather than, as the context suggests, they didn't build infrastructure that supports their business?

This ought to be interesting.
 
2012-09-05 06:22:21 PM

sabreWulf07: Cletus C.: What Romney said was actually the nice story of a successful businessman.

What Romney said, and what everyone in this thread is trying to point out, is terribly tone deaf and a bit cruel. The overwhelming majority of American youth don't have the option to get a business or student loan from their parents because the overwhelming majority of American parents don't have that kind of money lying around. That's reality for millions of Americans.

\

yeah, about that. Parents cover about 37% of college costs on average. So 20k is not an unreasonable loan when you think about 2nd mortgages or home equity covering it.
 
2012-09-05 06:22:31 PM

Mrtraveler01: This is the saddest attempt to spin this lie to date.

Just wanted you to know.


What else would you expect from tenp0unds0fcheese? Facts are not his strong suit.
 
2012-09-05 06:22:33 PM

Bhasayate: IS OK WHEN WE DO IT


It's apparently OK for you to believe a bunch more disinformation that serves to justify your "both sides are bad/the same" mindset.
 
2012-09-05 06:22:36 PM
Romney was just saying that to succeed you need to take a risk which is why he illustrated it with a story. Jimmy John was not going to school, so he took the risk of having to join the military against his wishes because his father attached those conditions on the loan.

Castro took it as "DERRRR You need to borrow money from your parents to succeed."
 
2012-09-05 06:23:04 PM

Crapinoleum: Serious Black: relcec: the guy who got into standford with a 1200 SAT is lecturing others about unearned oppurtunities.

Since when were standardized tests a good metric of intelligence and skill?

They are at "standford". reclec would know.


I heard reclec went to hardvard.
 
2012-09-05 06:23:25 PM
"I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love." -Mitt Romney

"I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." -Mitt Romney

"He [Obama] says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It's time for us to cut back on government and help the American people." -Mitt Romney

"I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." -Mitt Romney



I think Mittens is better off when people don't quoting him.
 
2012-09-05 06:23:41 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: magusdevil: And the GOP has managed to line up small business owner after small business owner who claim they got there on their own, only to be shown the millions and millions of dollars of government help they got along the way. If the Republicans managed to find one, JUST ONE, s ...

The GOP only has to thank Obama for delivering them that gift of a speech.

The gift of a speech that the Republicans then lied about and it hasn't worked for them?


The RCP average says something is working.
 
2012-09-05 06:24:23 PM

bdub77: An internet inflation calculator says that 25,000 1983 dollars is something like 55,000 2012 dollars


Sweet!

My in-laws are fans of Rmoney. I'll have to ask them to borrow 55k next time I visit.
 
2012-09-05 06:24:59 PM

Isitoveryet: "I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love." -Mitt Romney

"I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." -Mitt Romney

"He [Obama] says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It's time for us to cut back on government and help the American people." -Mitt Romney

"I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." -Mitt Romney


I think Mittens is better off when people don't quoting him.


I don't quoting him everywhere/
 
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