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(CNN)   FBI reports they have successfully destroyed all evidence of being hacked   (cnn.com) divider line 9
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2012-09-05 12:58:42 PM
6 votes:
Isn't it strange that the farther away were get from the Cold War, the more the US government acts like the Soviet government?
2012-09-05 12:44:21 PM
2 votes:
Does the FBI have any serious suggestions as to just where Antisec came across a file containing 12 million valid UDIDs, if not from Supervisor Special Agent Christopher K. Stangl's laptop?
2012-09-05 05:18:59 PM
1 votes:

obl: This whole story is a shining example of how piss poor people's critical thinking skills are and how quickly news media outlets rush to publish "news" before they know anything about anything.

How do we know AntiSec grabbed 12 million UDID records? BECAUSE THEY SAID SO. After all, only 1 million have been released.

How do we know AntiSec lifted these records from a laptop owned by a particular FBI agent? BECAUSE THEY SAID SO.(After all how else would they know the name of an agent who is ID'd in numerous news articles about cases against Anonymous and their ilk?)

How do we know AntiSec used a particular Java exploit to gain access to said laptop? BECAUSE THEY SAID SO.

How do we know that the file AntiSec lifted is called "NCFTA_iOS_devices_intel.csv"? BECAUSE THEY SAID SO. Oh wait, you mean these cyber geniuses now have the power to name or rename files? We'll never stop them now!

So AntiSec or whoever posted claiming to be affiliated with AntiSec has all the credibility here in so many people's eyes because...someone posted an anonymous text file to a pastebin with some ASCII graphics in it and l33t speak about government spies.

Yes, at least some of the UDID's are apparently real. Do people have any idea how leaky UDID's were before Apple deprecated their use? This data could have easily come from one or more iOS apps. It could have been stolen from iOS developers with poor security, it could have been collected through breached servers, or, yes, it could have been shared with the FBI for all kinds of reasons (evidence in a criminal investigation, etc.)

DESPITE ALL OF THIS 95% of the Internet is going all herpaderp about a giant government conspiracy, all because some anonymous hacker dickheads posted something they got from somewhere embellished with grandiose claims.

Is it possible that everything claimed in the supposed AntiSec leak is true? Yes maybe and no. The point is, nobody has any farking clue whether its true or not, despite numerous solid reasons why it is suspicious, and yet the Internet is jizzing itself over this story.

Meanwhile, while your friendly do-gooder benevolent hackers are not exposing the government's dark secrets for your benefit, they are actively buying and selling your paypal accounts and credit card accounts and bank accounts and bitcoins all over the goddamn Internet right under your noses.


Assuming the breach is legit for a second, you honestly think they would confirm it?
obl
2012-09-05 01:56:08 PM
1 votes:
This whole story is a shining example of how piss poor people's critical thinking skills are and how quickly news media outlets rush to publish "news" before they know anything about anything.

How do we know AntiSec grabbed 12 million UDID records? BECAUSE THEY SAID SO. After all, only 1 million have been released.

How do we know AntiSec lifted these records from a laptop owned by a particular FBI agent? BECAUSE THEY SAID SO.(After all how else would they know the name of an agent who is ID'd in numerous news articles about cases against Anonymous and their ilk?)

How do we know AntiSec used a particular Java exploit to gain access to said laptop? BECAUSE THEY SAID SO.

How do we know that the file AntiSec lifted is called "NCFTA_iOS_devices_intel.csv"? BECAUSE THEY SAID SO. Oh wait, you mean these cyber geniuses now have the power to name or rename files? We'll never stop them now!

So AntiSec or whoever posted claiming to be affiliated with AntiSec has all the credibility here in so many people's eyes because...someone posted an anonymous text file to a pastebin with some ASCII graphics in it and l33t speak about government spies.

Yes, at least some of the UDID's are apparently real. Do people have any idea how leaky UDID's were before Apple deprecated their use? This data could have easily come from one or more iOS apps. It could have been stolen from iOS developers with poor security, it could have been collected through breached servers, or, yes, it could have been shared with the FBI for all kinds of reasons (evidence in a criminal investigation, etc.)

DESPITE ALL OF THIS 95% of the Internet is going all herpaderp about a giant government conspiracy, all because some anonymous hacker dickheads posted something they got from somewhere embellished with grandiose claims.

Is it possible that everything claimed in the supposed AntiSec leak is true? Yes maybe and no. The point is, nobody has any farking clue whether its true or not, despite numerous solid reasons why it is suspicious, and yet the Internet is jizzing itself over this story.

Meanwhile, while your friendly do-gooder benevolent hackers are not exposing the government's dark secrets for your benefit, they are actively buying and selling your paypal accounts and credit card accounts and bank accounts and bitcoins all over the goddamn Internet right under your noses.
2012-09-05 01:01:01 PM
1 votes:
Nuttin to see here, move along, Citizen.

A Politician is a fellow willing to spend your money on his country.
2012-09-05 12:51:58 PM
1 votes:
In other hacking news:

An Anonymous group allegedly hacked Romney tax records via Franklin firm

The deal is quite simple. Convert $1,000,000 USD to Bitcoins (Google if if you need a lesson on what Bitcoin is) using the various markets available out in the world for buying. Transfer the Bitcoins gathered to the Bitcoin address listed below. It does not matter if small amounts or one large amount is transferred, as long as the final value of the Bitcoins is equal to $1,000,000 USD at the time when it is finished. The keys to unlock the data will be purged and what ever is inside the documents will remain a secret forever.

Failure to do this before September 28, the entire world will be allowed to view the documents with a publicly released key to unlock everything.
2012-09-05 12:51:05 PM
1 votes:

Hypothetical Imperative: Does the FBI have any serious suggestions as to just where Antisec came across a file containing 12 million valid UDIDs, if not from Supervisor Special Agent Christopher K. Stangl's laptop?


i45.tinypic.com
2012-09-05 12:48:55 PM
1 votes:
Not that Anonymous is a bastion of saintly truth telling angels or anything, but frankly their exaggerated claims are often rooted in fact and presenting 1 Million UDID's along with a specified target and attack vector is a fair bit of information to be released from a hack.

The FBI is going to have to do a bit more than say "nuh uh". To convince me it didn't happen. Maybe something like "The FBI does issue requests for this type of information but categorically denies retaining and storing this information." You know, something that a disgruntled anonymous leaker could possibly discredit by sending an anonymous fax or something.

Also, as it stands, having no evidence that the hack took place is not the same as having evidence that the hack did not take place.
2012-09-05 12:38:16 PM
1 votes:
"The release, if authentic, sparked a flurry of headlines Tuesday and raised questions about both FBI security and why the bureau would have collected that information about people in the first place."

So... if it turns out not to be authentic, then those headlines and questions never happened? How is that kind of ret-conning handled? Mass hypnosis and reboot the internet?

/you can be honest... it's not like i'll remember
 
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