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2012-09-05 05:38:05 PM

Cup_O_Jo: Gonad the Ballbarian: When people get older and have money it's all "I got mine!" time...

When people are young and never made their own money it's all "gimme yours" time.


Personally I'd rather be middle class in a prosperous society than one of the wealthy in a depressing Dickensian society.
 
2012-09-05 05:39:53 PM

gweilo8888: In the real world, 88% of all US households paid payroll and federal taxes in 2011


A good portion of that 88% got back more than they paid in as far as income taxes go. Everyone who buys a petroleum product or uses public transportation pays federal taxes. Play fair, don't use twisted statistics.

gweilo8888: So yeah, wanna go for that flat-rate ultra-fair tax?


I'm all in favor of a flat tax.
 
2012-09-05 05:40:32 PM

browntimmy: Cup_O_Jo: Gonad the Ballbarian: When people get older and have money it's all "I got mine!" time...

When people are young and never made their own money it's all "gimme yours" time.

Personally I'd rather be middle class in a prosperous society than one of the wealthy in a depressing Dickensian society.


The rising tide lifts all boats. Not, "whoever gets to the lifeboats first and throws out whomever is already on board".
 
2012-09-05 05:41:31 PM

Miss Stein: I was surprised to see Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys on the list, as he's a Clam.

Then again, he did write "I Write the Songs", so he probably has some stupid amount of royalties piled up.


Lol... I read that as "he's Clan" and thought "really? and you're *surprised* he's on the list?"

Sigh... I need new eyes. Who wants to pony up a pair for the cause?
 
2012-09-05 05:49:36 PM

randomjsa: I wouldn't be surprised by anybody voting for Mitt Romney.

I would be surprised by anybody> voting for Obama after the last four years.


That's how bad Romney is......
 
2012-09-05 05:52:05 PM

pxlboy: digitalrain: douchebag/hater: WTF Indeed: You mean rich people vote their self interests? HOW DARE THEY!!

Wow. And POOR people DON'T vote for their self-interests?

Who knew?

Nope, the poor vote for their self-interest in every election by trying to elect candidates that will give them more of the workers' money.

Right now the lower 49% of the income earners pay NO taxes.
When you pay no taxes at all, none, zero and yet STILL get back thousands from the IRS's 'earned income tax credits' tell me who is really screwing the tax payer; it's not the '1%', that's for sure.

Amen, brotherman.

I think it's something about the very-wealthy rigging the system to f*ck the middle class.


Oh the ultra-rich are just as greedy and have the same "don't rock the boat" mentality as the segment of
welfare recipients who are perfectly content to sit on their asses, squirting out more babies, while on the
government dole. They both got theirs, so fark the rest of us.

I don't see an immediate solution in sight. At this point, its a matter of voting for the least bad candidate
and that's just sad.

I think the welfare system needs an overhaul and I think our tax system needs to be gutted.

There's a place in between "I'm broke and need welfare" and "I can stand on my own two feet" where
you are doing better but you're not quite there yet and still need help. Unfortunately, with our current
welfare system, almost the moment you start earning *anything*, they yank your benefits.

It's not just me railing against poor folks. I'm speaking as someone who spent 6 months on welfare
when my first husband and I split up and it was either that or let my infant son starve. Proudest day
of my life was when I no longer needed welfare. I hated every second I was on it.

As far as taxes, there are too many loopholes and shelters for our current system to EVER be fair
across the board, no matter how much they trim it and pretty it up. They need to gut it and move to
a flat tax. Not a lump sum due at the end of the year, but something where everyone pays x% VAT
on whatever they purchase. That way *everyone* is paying taxes.

Maybe it's too idealistic and simplistic, but all I know is the current system does not work.
 
2012-09-05 05:52:16 PM

DingleberryMoose: A good portion of that 88% got back more than they paid in as far as income taxes go. Everyone who buys a petroleum product or uses public transportation pays federal taxes. Play fair, don't use twisted statistics.


A good proportion got back more than they paid, so long as you exclude all the other taxes you carefully didn't include in that comment, you mean? Things like sales and property taxes that apply to pretty-much everything the poor earns, because they don't actually earn enough to save anything, so the lot gets spent on mostly taxable items? (And yes, property tax applies to poor people who rent; the landlord passes it straight along to them, they're not making a loss on renting out their property any more than WalMart pays the sales tax on your daily essentials for you.)

Meanwhile, the rich pay those same taxes on a microscopic percentage of their earnings and the rest goes straight in the bank without even hearing of the existence of sales tax, property tax, and a million other nickel-and-diming taxes.

And you're going to lecture me about using twisted statistics?

DingleberryMoose: I'm all in favor of a flat tax.


Suuuuure you are. Get to voting then; if you're in the 1% odds are your votes count for more anyway by the time you factor in the political donations, lobbying, etc. to make sure your voice drowns out the general populous, so you'll get the flat-rate tax in if you really want it.

I'll believe you immediately that we have a flat-rate tax with no loopholes. (Not a flat-rate tax that the rich can still avoid paying while continuing to live in the US and profit from US employees, which is what you're probably envisioning.)

Until then... the other one's got bells on, and plays great music if yanked hard enough.
 
2012-09-05 05:53:57 PM

Old Smokie: elysive: My question was why are people felating our current president. Perhaps you can answer that.

Oh, simple. Number one rule of being a democrat politician is never admit you were wrong.


FTFY. Both sides are a bunch of greedy old whores.
 
2012-09-05 05:57:38 PM

diaphoresis: Remember all the Holly Weirds coming out in support for Obama? Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who will believe anything an actor/actress says. Unlike Fakers, who are hard core intellectuals with selfless lives and beliefs.


Fakers? Who/what are Fakers? Or were you thinking of Fakirs?
 
2012-09-05 05:59:44 PM
All You Fascists
Words by Woody Guthrie, Music by Billy Bragg

I'm gonna tell you fascists
You may be surprised
The people in this world
Are getting organized
You're bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose

Race hatred cannot stop us
This one thing we know
Your poll tax and Jim Crow
And greed has got to go
You're bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose.

All of you fascists bound to lose:
I said, all of you fascists bound to lose:
Yes sir, all of you fascists bound to lose:
You're bound to lose! You fascists:
Bound to lose!

People of every color
Marching side to side
Marching 'cross these fields
Where a million fascists dies
You're bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose!

I'm going into this battle
And take my union gun
We'll end this world of slavery
Before this battle's won
You're bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose!
 
2012-09-05 06:01:00 PM
Before I even read any posts, I have to state the undeniable obvious fact from that article and about those artists... The article: the guy that wrote it is obviously suffering from Republican or right-wing butt-hurt in some fashion as he right off the bat unabashedly uses a small technique of "give-and-take" to lure any left-wing person into his charade. Then he accuses liberals, in general, as far as I could tell of them ALL coming off their rockers. After that there is some mild demeaning of some the right-wing like a few jaded rock-stars and maybe "these ten music artists" that he sacrificially gives us to keep the left-wing, those rabid and crazy liberals, happy!. Atleast that is the vibe I got from the article, maybe that's just me though; I didn't appreciate his style, but that may be due to the fact that it was really a pro Mitt Romney article.

Unfortunately, I don't have big problems with Mitt actually, but the Republican party is a different story. I cannot in good judgment at this time vote ANY Republican in, even if THEY ARE great, because the rest are so corrupted it would only strengthen their hold. This is the problem you get when you belong to a party, sometimes the party backfires onto you (although Mitt and his flip-flopping galore is something that I'd truly love a genuine answer on; one that will NEVER come either because he WILL LOSE if he talks about it at all). The Republicans and hidden in them The Tea Party (especially The Tea Party) are dangerous due to: the misinformation applied to their people helped by Fox News as a Trusted™ news source, the loudly and verbally (sometimes using effigies and the like as well; everyone knows full well what effigies are brought to bare in the South against Obama) also attack the leaders in government--only Democratic ones though, they talk in ways that rile their base in a violent fashion (they use gun culture at every turn, like NRA member Clint Eastwood talking before Mitt, who he himself spent an ENTIRE speech mentally defacing, and verbally assaulting the President of the United States--of which that used to mean something on its own), they talk of starting wars while people applaud--they applaud going to WAR...it's sheer madness, yet they talk of solving our economic woes while in nearly that same breath saying without using numbers--which I guess fools them--that we will have a GREAT economic recovery with 12 million new jobs (don't ask me from where, don't look behind the curtain dammit!) even though just before speaking of war would mean that billions upon billions of dollars will be needed yet again from no where... But, they're Republicans so they always believe they get to have their cake and eat it too. There is so very much more to add to this, I have only started to tell you what they act like...what if I told you what they've done?

Some believe this as they know it's true. Some might read it and wonder and start paying attention, to see if what I wrote is correct and maybe they'd change. Others would look as well and get literally caught up in the disaster, slowly becoming what i might consider a victim of brainwashing. Then there are those that see everything as it is like me, but they say and do things exactly the same as their party, these are the people that are truly dangerous; they're the people that do the brainwashing. But, to them it's all for their good. They'll be sure to tell them to get some guns and stock up for that coming war, either when Jesus gets here or when their machine is crumbling or is finally under attack from those that can no longer suffer the TYRANNY, not freedom as you proudly exclaim, it will be tyranny that we will be under, but you won't know the difference because like it or not you're already brainwashed and you don't even know it.

But, remember folks it is the left-wing you need to worry about... There are so many obvious threats, like:

A quick summary of were the right-wing is diverging from a political process that would include a GREAT right-wing choice (something more akin to Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party that was right-wing, conservative, but progressive; a much more practical, presentable, and actual likable direction for the right to go) The Tea Party being it's own worst enemy with far, far too much violent rhetoric that is repeated by the Representatives and worse it has spread easily into the mass media like Fox News and everyday people that say terrible things, repeating them like a dangerous mantra...this is how violent and deadly civil unrest can start and it will be the fault of the leaders that talk this way. Hence, I would NEVER vote right-wing, there is too much fear colluded with violence, ignorance, and bigotry there...

Only one of those choices surprised me AT ALL.

The Ten Rockers: This was incredibly easy to determine who was idiotic or not, I mean they ALL could potentially be idiots, but there was one specific thing that made them idiots if they had it in common. Basically, any of them that opened their mouth and talked were all Class A ass-clowns! It was that simple! Although the beach boys take the ticket for almost sounding like they were definitely a Tea Party crowd as their quote was very "salty". They definitely have the violent rhetoric down as they did everything, but start going down the next path people like that typically take--bigotry. A lot of stupidity there including as I read Russell Crowe who likes Rick Perry, what a joke.

/Didn't proofread, sorry for any grammar screw ups.
 
2012-09-05 06:03:18 PM

karnal: If this thread was called "10 famous musicians who are probably voting for Obama" you would not see the Republicans slithering out of the woodwork to discredit, belittle, mock or harass them.....that is 100 percent a Democrat tatic. Anyone should be able to vote for whomever they choose without fear of reprisal...but not with Democrats. There is no moral compass in democratic's values and principles.


*yawn* old and tired, better luck next time buddy
 
2012-09-05 06:05:23 PM

Gunny Highway: Spandau: Johnny Ramone is not voting for anyone. He's been dead since 2004.

GET YOUR FACTS OUT OF HERE!

/Wonder what Johnny thought of "My Brain Is Hanging Upside Down (Bonzo Goes to Bitburg)"


He played guitar on it, but refused to sing the chorus. True story.
 
2012-09-05 06:10:43 PM

Krieghund: The Southern Dandy: jj325: I'm very surprised to learn that Johnny Ramone will be voting for Romney

[skepticfreethought.com image 319x234]
Apparently, you don't know much about Johnny Ramone. He's always been a conservative.

jj325 knows more about Johnny Ramone than you do, apparently.


And he was way into them long, long before you had even heard of them..


schubie: Anyone who has read the book "I Slept With Joey Ramone" knows that Johnny has ALWAYS been batshiat crazy. Maybe a psychopath and certainly a bully.

Really, the entire band is a PhD doctoral thesis in FAS and outsider music just waiting to happen..


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-05 06:14:35 PM

Pantubo: They voted for Obama in 2008 to prove they weren't racists.

Now they're voting against him to prove they are not idiots.


My Grandma has that bumper sticker.
 
2012-09-05 06:15:07 PM

gweilo8888: A good proportion got back more than they paid, so long as you exclude all the other taxes you carefully didn't include in that comment, you mean?


I specifically stated income taxes, and did so clearly. Sales and property taxes aren't federal taxes, and this is a discussion of a federal election. Bringing them into the discussion is disingenuous. Compare apples to apples.

gweilo8888: DingleberryMoose: I'm all in favor of a flat tax.

Suuuuure you are. Get to voting then; if you're in the 1% odds are your votes count for more anyway by the time you factor in the political donations, lobbying, etc. to make sure your voice drowns out the general populous, so you'll get the flat-rate tax in if you really want it.


AGI for 2011 puts my family in the 26th percentile, the group who pays the bulk of US income taxes. Not near the top 1%.
 
2012-09-05 06:17:29 PM
Link for above percentage stat. See where you fit, I did the googling for you.
 
2012-09-05 06:25:43 PM
The Arlo Guthrie? WTF?
 
2012-09-05 06:29:54 PM
I would be willing to wager that almost all the people in that list will not vote anyway. Not unless they can get an assistant to do it for them.
 
2012-09-05 06:34:35 PM

DingleberryMoose: gweilo8888: A good proportion got back more than they paid, so long as you exclude all the other taxes you carefully didn't include in that comment, you mean?

I specifically stated income taxes, and did so clearly. Sales and property taxes aren't federal taxes, and this is a discussion of a federal election. Bringing them into the discussion is disingenuous. Compare apples to apples.

gweilo8888: DingleberryMoose: I'm all in favor of a flat tax.

Suuuuure you are. Get to voting then; if you're in the 1% odds are your votes count for more anyway by the time you factor in the political donations, lobbying, etc. to make sure your voice drowns out the general populous, so you'll get the flat-rate tax in if you really want it.

AGI for 2011 puts my family in the 26th percentile, the group who pays the bulk of US income taxes. Not near the top 1%.


Im not in the top 1% and I support a flat tax excluding all tax deductions and loopholes. The question is...where does the average person vote for such a thing? Surely not by supporting either of the two current candidates.
 
2012-09-05 06:38:54 PM
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2012-09-05 06:39:17 PM
If you know anything about rap music, then you recognized that Minaj lyric as a lyrical witticism (Yes, there is a lot of wit in rap lyrics. No, you won't hear it if you're not a fan.) She was trying to be funny.
 
2012-09-05 06:42:30 PM
Uh, Nickie Minaj and Hilary Duff are NOT "musicians." They are Manufactured Pop Skank.
 
2012-09-05 06:43:09 PM

skantea: If you know anything about rap music, then you recognized that Minaj lyric as a lyrical witticism (Yes, there is a lot of wit in rap lyrics. No, you won't hear it if you're not a fan.) She was trying to be funny.


Rap is not "music."
 
2012-09-05 06:43:39 PM
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that everyone on the list is almost exclusively old and rich (or dead).

Not sure you can count Hilary Duff; since she's Texan she's automatically registered as a Republican at birth you have to remember to change it later in life if you want.
 
2012-09-05 06:46:09 PM

FinFangFark: [sunsetintherearview.com image 500x661]

Voting for Romney...can't wait for him to give a speech on how having Nicki's booty on board relates him to the common folk.

/dat big fake ass


Yah, really, it's almost as vomitorious as her fake face. Almost, even considering real poop comes out of that tstanky plastic thang while verbal diarrhea spews out of her mouth.
 
2012-09-05 06:47:36 PM

digitalrain: Crewmannumber6: meat0918: A lot of those were "They are registered Republican, therefore they will obviously vote for any Republican the party puts up."

I'm a registered republican and I'll be voting Obama this year

I'm sorry. Did you lose a bet or something? {{{ hugs }}}


No, however unimpressed with Obama I may be, Romney is the standard bearer for everything wrong today. A main reason the stimulus didn't work is because the Romneys of the world siphoned off the majority of the money and hid it in their offshore accounts before anybody knew that it was in play. I may not agree with all of Obama's positions but at least he has them. Romney's ideology is like the weather in Cincinnati: If you don't like it, wait an hour.

Does no one remember 2008 when nobody hated Romney more than republicans? My God, just because this man has no ethics, that doesn't mean nobody can have them!
 
2012-09-05 06:50:14 PM
The batsht crazy vote for Bobama.
 
2012-09-05 06:53:55 PM
Rich - young
Rich - old
Rich - old
Rich - old
Rich - youngish
Rich - old
Rich - old
Rich - youngish
Rich - old
Rich - young
Rich - old

I think I'm seeing a trend here but I can't quite put my money on it...
 
2012-09-05 06:54:32 PM

Old Smokie: elysive: My question was why are people felating our current president. Perhaps you can answer that.

Oh, simple. Number one rule of being a democrat is never admit you were wrong.


Number one rule of being a republican is project, project, project.
 
2012-09-05 07:09:06 PM

Crewmannumber6: digitalrain: Crewmannumber6: meat0918: A lot of those were "They are registered Republican, therefore they will obviously vote for any Republican the party puts up."

I'm a registered republican and I'll be voting Obama this year

I'm sorry. Did you lose a bet or something? {{{ hugs }}}

No, however unimpressed with Obama I may be, Romney is the standard bearer for everything wrong today. A main reason the stimulus didn't work is because the Romneys of the world siphoned off the majority of the money and hid it in their offshore accounts before anybody knew that it was in play. I may not agree with all of Obama's positions but at least he has them. Romney's ideology is like the weather in Cincinnati: If you don't like it, wait an hour.

Does no one remember 2008 when nobody hated Romney more than republicans? My God, just because this man has no ethics, that doesn't mean nobody can have them!


Gotta give you props for a lucid, intelligent reason. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I respect it.

At the end of the day, you gotta go with your gut. Vote your conscience and may the least crappy
guy win.

/ I wish I were joking about the last part. They both suck the balls of the bastard son of an elephant
and an ass.
 
2012-09-05 07:11:22 PM

MooseUpNorth: Old Smokie: elysive: My question was why are people felating our current president. Perhaps you can answer that.

Oh, simple. Number one rule of being a democrat is never admit you were wrong.

Number one rule of being a republican is project, project, project.


Nobody likes to admit when they were wrong. However; I dont see why one vote gives someone such a vested interest in that candidate, especially when the candidate essentially violates the public's trust. Even if Obama is the lesser evil, there should be a way for people to express their dissatisfaction with him. I guess theres no incentive for him to change his policies once he's won reelection.

And the number one rule is that party affiliations kill brain cells.
 
2012-09-05 07:21:16 PM

rawbert7: Rich - young
Rich - old
Rich - old
Rich - old
Rich - youngish
Rich - old
Rich - old
Rich - youngish
Rich - old
Rich - young
Rich - old dead

I think I'm seeing a trend here but I can't quite put my money on it...


FTFY
 
2012-09-05 07:23:33 PM

Barnstormer: ...but Popper is faster and has greater melodic power.



My problem with his playing is it's too shtick-y. No matter the song, it always sounds like the same solo. It's like sometime 20 years ago his brain formed an image of what a solo should sound like and, since then, never bothered imagining anything else...
 
2012-09-05 07:42:11 PM

phaseolus: Barnstormer: ...but Popper is faster and has greater melodic power.


My problem with his playing is it's too shtick-y. No matter the song, it always sounds like the same solo. It's like sometime 20 years ago his brain formed an image of what a solo should sound like and, since then, never bothered imagining anything else...


Popper tries to be the Eddie VH of harmonica, ends up being the Christina Aguilera.
 
2012-09-05 07:49:45 PM
 
2012-09-05 07:57:17 PM

unfarkingbelievable: skantea: If you know anything about rap music, then you recognized that Minaj lyric as a lyrical witticism (Yes, there is a lot of wit in rap lyrics. No, you won't hear it if you're not a fan.) She was trying to be funny.

Rap is not "music."



Rap MUSIC has been around for over 30 years now. You're like a guy who likes opera saying Jazz isn't real music. You don't just sound old, you sound confused.
 
2012-09-05 08:10:32 PM
I'm disappointed to see there's ANYONE stupid enough to vote for Romney and his gang of crooks. Not surprised to see Simmons on there, he's as greedy and evil as they come.
 
2012-09-05 08:11:00 PM

Gunny Highway: Spandau: Johnny Ramone is not voting for anyone. He's been dead since 2004.

GET YOUR FACTS OUT OF HERE!

/Wonder what Johnny thought of "My Brain Is Hanging Upside Down (Bonzo Goes to Bitburg)"


He hated it. Watch End of the Century.
 
2012-09-05 08:15:54 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-05 08:25:47 PM
I don't care: They are entertainers. Entertain me and shut up.
 
2012-09-05 08:30:08 PM

DingleberryMoose: I specifically stated income taxes, and did so clearly. Sales and property taxes aren't federal taxes, and this is a discussion of a federal election. Bringing them into the discussion is disingenuous. Compare apples to apples.


And did so in response to my post, which was in itself in response to somebody making intentionally misleading claims that nearly half the country actually pays *no* tax, and instead gets given refunds without paying tax.

Now, which would you claim to be the more accurate characterization?

* Half the country pays zero tax and gets refunds, thereby getting money they shouldn't be entitled to?
* The whole country pays a significant amount of tax, just half of it makes those payments mostly in the form of payroll tax, and state / local taxation?

If you're honest, the answer is number two, which means your snark was irrelevant to the topic at hand. If you are claiming number one is more accurate, you are being deliberately disingenuous, and I can only see one reason you'd do that. (Well, two I guess: you might just have been brainwashed by somebody who knows they're paying less than their fair share.)
 
2012-09-05 08:32:03 PM
I'm not trying to be that guy, but none of these is surprising.
 
2012-09-05 08:53:06 PM
Dee Snider of Twisted Sister is also a republican, as is Dave Mustaine of Megadeth and pre sell out Metallica. Alice Cooper doesn't always support a particular party, but he supported McSame/Failin over Nobama back in '08
 
2012-09-05 08:55:29 PM

Johnson: I don't understand why the ones that say they are Libertarian are not endorsing Gary Johnson?


Gary Johnson is not Libertarian. Not in any measurable way. Those pesky Libertarians are quite serious about their own party line, and Gary doesn't walk it.
 
2012-09-05 09:02:14 PM

Rapmaster2000: Popper has said, "I was a bleeding-heart liberal, until I got a job"[27] and describes himself as "a libertarian who is a Republican when pushed." Popper summed up his political position by saying "I believe in freedom for markets and freedom for individuals, so I guess that makes me a libertarian."

So, like all libertarians, he's a Republican that does drugs.


When a Libertarian says he believes in freedom for markets and fredom for individuals, it actually means something. Libertarians are not Republicans. If you understood the real meaning of Freedom, you might just become a Libertarian too.

/I'm not one myself, but I take the time to learn about these things.
 
2012-09-05 09:07:06 PM

AsBaile: I don't care: They are entertainers. Entertain me and shut up.


My feeling as well. I don't care to hear Chuck Norris' utterly retarded political philosophy and religious beliefs, that dude was just fun to watch handing people their asses back in the day.
 
2012-09-05 09:24:16 PM
Gene Simmons a musician? Who knew?
 
2012-09-05 09:30:41 PM
What the fark is that? That doesn't even look human.
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TWX
2012-09-05 09:57:22 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: What the fark is that? That doesn't even look human.
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Reminds me of the aliens in V. Not the remake, the original.
 
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