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2012-09-05 03:52:03 PM
MBooda

karnal: MBooda

karnal: Luther924s:

most people think Dylan when they think harmonica.

I think of this guy:
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 300x387]

Hm. I think of Trouble Every Day and Downtown Talent Scout.

/blow your harmonica son

Ray Collins?

Almost certainly. Probably too early for Lowell George; "Soul Giants" era.



Yeah - I think Lowel was only with them less than a year and on just a few tracks off of Weasels Ripped My Flesh - but I could be wrong.
 
2012-09-05 03:52:09 PM
Actually I think Arlo in the past had endorsed Ron Paul Link , so to assume that his Republican registration will carry over to Mitt may be a stretch. 

" Although I am a registered Republican, it does not follow that I endorse or condone the ridiculous positions the Republican party has taken as of late. I have written extensively on many subjects as noted and will continue to speak out for a world where we can work together with anyone willing to put aside ideology for a practical reality - where government works for all the people equally. I am not one of those people who believes that government works best when it serves those with the most. I am out to fight that kind of absurd anti-Americanism with the songs I sing and the life I live." - Arlo Guthrie" Link
 
2012-09-05 03:54:27 PM

LL316: Why do people care who other people vote for? Celeb or non celeb...I just don't care what you think about politics.


Because we are all voting for a POTUS and we should discuss it and share our feelings and ideas as a community.
 
2012-09-05 03:54:37 PM

Kevin72: List fails without Ted Nugent?


NO, it clearly states "not entirely batsh*t crazy," AND "musician." Ted fails to meet either requirement.
 
2012-09-05 03:59:41 PM

Nana's Vibrator: John Bonham


Funny! But John Bonham can't vote cause he's British. Nice try, I caught you though!!
 
2012-09-05 03:59:56 PM

Deucednuisance:

Here's another, let's see if he rates an "obscure":

[www.northseajazzhotels.com image 750x501]


Movies like Midnight Cowboy, the original The Getaway and The Sugarland Express are amazing pieces of work even without it, but the addition of his music makes them freakin' astonishing.

/and he's still cookin' at age the age of ninety
 
2012-09-05 04:01:26 PM
Inaccurate. No farkin' way that Arlo Guthrie is voting for Willard Rmoney !
 
2012-09-05 04:04:45 PM
I wouldn't be surprised by anybody voting for Mitt Romney.

I would be surprised by anybody> voting for Obama after the last four years.
 
2012-09-05 04:05:55 PM

randomjsa: I wouldn't be surprised by anybody voting for Mitt Romney.

I would be surprised by anybody> voting for Obama after the last four years.


Just took the CNN Money quiz. Apparently, I am better off after 4 years.

Your argument (like all your others) is invalid.
 
2012-09-05 04:12:53 PM
I'm pretty sure Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter votes republican. He's 2nd gutarist for the Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan, as well as a congressional advisor on ICBM's
 
2012-09-05 04:13:30 PM
The only one in that list that surprises/disappoints me is LL Cool J, but I figure the dude's been rich long enough he's probably about as out of touch as Romney himself. At least Cool James can claim to be a self made man for the most part though.
 
2012-09-05 04:14:11 PM

The Southern Dandy: jj325: I'm very surprised to learn that Johnny Ramone will be voting for Romney

[skepticfreethought.com image 319x234]
Apparently, you don't know much about Johnny Ramone. He's always been a conservative.


jj325 knows more about Johnny Ramone than you do, apparently.
 
2012-09-05 04:14:29 PM
coeyagi

randomjsa: I wouldn't be surprised by anybody voting for Mitt Romney.

I would be surprised by anybody> voting for Obama after the last four years.

Just took the CNN Money quiz. Apparently, I am better off after 4 years.

Your argument (like all your others) is invalid.



Typical - couldn't say for yourself if you are better off? Had to take a CNN quiz? Why not just ask Chris Matthews...maybe he would share his thrill running up your leg?
 
2012-09-05 04:15:07 PM

Pantubo: They voted for Obama in 2008 to prove they weren't racists.

Now they're voting against him to prove they are not idiots.


Voting for Romney would not prove they are not stupid.
 
2012-09-05 04:16:44 PM

Happy Hours: The only one that surprises me is Arlo Guthrie. I either already knew the others leaned right or didn't have any preconceived notions about their political views.


Yeah, this, only make that last bit "don't give two licks about their political views".

/ Betcha Arlo's conversion has something to do with the discovery that Nixon owned a copy of his record.
 
2012-09-05 04:17:01 PM
Crotchrocket Slim

The only one in that list that surprises/disappoints me is LL Cool J, but I figure the dude's been rich long enough he's probably about as out of touch as Romney himself. At least Cool James can claim to be a self made man for the most part though.



You better get use to being disappointed.

/aren't you also a self made man? No?
 
2012-09-05 04:20:29 PM

skullkrusher: DingleberryMoose: umad: I don't get the hate for libertarians on this site.

Nor do I. I have definite libertarian leanings and much of what I see here agrees with typical libertarian ideas. The problem may be that most of the people who put themselves in the public eye as libertarians are complete farktards.

simple -
1. 100% full bore libertarianism is stupid. The government can accomplish some things far more efficiently than the private sector and since we created society basically so that we could haven nice things, letting purist philosophy stand in the way of that is self-destructive
2. Many people who claim to be libertarians are not anything close (see Paul, Ron/Rand) instead espousing a neo-confederate facade to hide their desire to oppress people on the local level.
3. Objectivists are a ceremonial dagger away from LaVeyan Satanism and many people conflate Objectivism with libertarianism.


Number 2 is the big one for me. If you want us to have more freedom and less government, let's have it at all levels. Just weakening the federal government while allowing the state and locals to become tyrannies is an odd view of freedom to me. Mind you I'm not libertarian, I'm outright liberal.
 
2012-09-05 04:21:27 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Why is Nicky Minge popular?


I don't know... Why is Nookie Mange popular?
 
2012-09-05 04:23:57 PM

downstairs: I May Be Crazy But...: Well, as said previously, I've pretty much stopped calling myself libertarian. But I don't think I've ever voted for a Republican in my life. Because, around here at least, they've all been against personal freedoms, which I consider a worse sin than trying to restrict financial freedoms.


Likewise here.  The libertarian party has lately focused on the bat-shiat crazy portions of their financial platforms.  And those are just not logical or sane... though I agree that the Democratic Party's platform generally needs to be toned down.  And we do need a *smaller* government.
 
However, the other stuff like legalizing drugs and all that... that's really just BS to get college kids to spend $25 to join.


I've never done anything harder than alcohol, wouldn't if it were legal, and strongly support legalization of all drugs. Just as with alcohol prohibition, it enriches really nasty folks, and once something is legal there restrictions can be applied (gin joints didn't have closing hours, age restrictions etc). Further it has created a pretty terrible precident where cash and many other types of assets are regularly seized to fund police force growth, which is what I'd really like to end (that's way to similar to the official corruption during the prohibition era). I've voted Libertarian in both national and state level elections since 1998, and don't plan to change now, that I'm in a swing state.
 
2012-09-05 04:24:07 PM
Rich people voting for a Republican?? There's no way...
 
2012-09-05 04:24:46 PM
blog.jr.com

Possible Romney voters. However, I think the GOP banned jazz hands for Caucasian voters, so I may be wrong.
 
2012-09-05 04:26:25 PM
cdn.uproxx.com

Another Republican black musician possibly voting for Romney
 
2012-09-05 04:27:35 PM

Aigoo: DarkLancelot: Pantubo: They voted for Obama in 2008 to prove they weren't racists.

Now they're voting against him to prove they are not idiots.

Your equation does not look correct. If you are voting for Romney to prove you are not an idiot I think proof is no longer necessary.

Huh. Didn't realize Johnson had removed himself from the race. Guess I'll write in Fred Flintstone instead of voting for the only candidate worth my actual vote, then.

IIRC, many years ago, Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck (or tow other cartoon characters) actually did win one or two states because the actual Republican and Democratic Party candidates were just that bad - kind of like this election.

However, if former Governor Johnson is still on the ballot (as I believe he is, since I've not read otherwise), he still gets my vote. Might want to read up on him. Even if you're not Libertarian, his record is impressive - far better than former Governor Romney's or President Obama's. IMHO, the guy's worth a shot if for no other reason than what we are doing is not working, so why not try something new and see if it does work?


Did not mean to dismiss Johnson. I just can't vote for a Libertarian just like I can't vote for the Green. I like parts of both platforms and hate parts. Obama is the closest I'm going to get to what I want.
 
2012-09-05 04:29:10 PM
Boudica's War Tampon

Another Republican black musician possibly voting for Romney



What a dolt - and a total farking dolt to boot.
 
2012-09-05 04:31:14 PM

Boudica's War Tampon: [blog.jr.com image 510x340]

Possible Romney voters.


A. Is that the (pre-2004) Pep Band?
B. Or is it the so-called "Cavalier Marching Band"?

If A, I believe they were solid Daffy Duck voters.
If B, who gives a shiat who they vote for.
 
2012-09-05 04:31:31 PM
Not one single rocket surgeon on that list.
 
2012-09-05 04:36:29 PM

Deucednuisance: Barnstormer: Whatever party he's for or how long it's been since his band had a hit makes no difference to me, Popper is still one of the finest harmonica players anywhere.

Being able to play real fast scales in a manner that may or may not relate to the actual chord changes does not make one the "finest", heck it barely makes one "technically proficient".

You gotta be able to make music.

You want a fine harmonica player? Here's one:

[abcnewsradioonline.com image 630x354]

Here's another, let's see if he rates an "obscure":

[www.northseajazzhotels.com image 750x501]


is that the Sesame Street theme guy?

and or the guy that Villa Lobos wrote a concerto for?

/I'll stop being an elitist farkface now
 
2012-09-05 04:39:40 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Why is Nicky Minge popular?


Doubtless she's a proud Merkin.
 
2012-09-05 04:42:02 PM
I would be completely, utterly shocked if Nicki Minaj voted for Romney. Mainly because there's no sign she's even a US Citizen.

She is a masterful troll though.
 
2012-09-05 04:42:56 PM

DarkLancelot: skullkrusher: DingleberryMoose: umad: I don't get the hate for libertarians on this site.

Nor do I. I have definite libertarian leanings and much of what I see here agrees with typical libertarian ideas. The problem may be that most of the people who put themselves in the public eye as libertarians are complete farktards.

simple -
1. 100% full bore libertarianism is stupid. The government can accomplish some things far more efficiently than the private sector and since we created society basically so that we could haven nice things, letting purist philosophy stand in the way of that is self-destructive
2. Many people who claim to be libertarians are not anything close (see Paul, Ron/Rand) instead espousing a neo-confederate facade to hide their desire to oppress people on the local level.
3. Objectivists are a ceremonial dagger away from LaVeyan Satanism and many people conflate Objectivism with libertarianism.

Number 2 is the big one for me. If you want us to have more freedom and less government, let's have it at all levels. Just weakening the federal government while allowing the state and locals to become tyrannies is an odd view of freedom to me. Mind you I'm not libertarian, I'm outright liberal.


While I agree with you, the reason for more state and local control is usually tied to the trust issue more than the less government issue. It is much easier to hide waste and fraud in a multi-trillion dollar federal budget spread out all over the country. It much harder to do it at the local level. Living in NH, all but a handful of cities are governed by town meeting, i.e. direct democracy. If anyone tries to sneak something into the town budget, the retired old men who usually have nothing better to do but yell at clouds most days, will find out and raise holy hell. Since the town budget is only a few dozen pages, it's small enough for people to keep tabs on it and compare it to previous years' budgets. 90% of their complaints are unfounded but on occasion, they do really find something that either was a mistake (most often), a duplicate (next most common) or something underhanded (rare, but it happens), Being fully empowered citizen-legislators, they petition to remove these items from budget and as such, this type of corruption gets eliminated. You can't really do this sort of thing at the higher levels.
 
2012-09-05 04:48:24 PM
List is incomplete with mention of the Osmonds (I'm too lazy to scroll through the comments to see if anyone beat me to it). Arlo Guthrie is about the only surprise on the list because most of the "talent" on this list are millionaires who feel Mitt's pain over Obama's socialistic tax structure.
 
2012-09-05 04:50:26 PM
I was surprised to see Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys on the list, as he's a Clam.

Then again, he did write "I Write the Songs", so he probably has some stupid amount of royalties piled up.
 
2012-09-05 04:52:27 PM

Persnickety: skinink: Good for them. It's a democracy, they could write in Gingrich for Pres for all I care.

If Mitt didn't have to pander to the Republican Party then he would be a half decent candidate. The Massachusetts version of Romney may have given Obama a run for his money.

This point is worth stating again. As a liberal, I must confess my admiration for Romney's stint as Governor in Mass. Of course, he was dealing with an openly hostile legislature in a state that is only 13% Republican. This kept the derp factor well in check. Romney proved himself to be a master of the art of compromise and was more than willing to go after old state institutions that needed shaking up. He also closed corporate tax loopholes and raised fees all over the place, much to the ire of local businesses. And of course, although he never mentioned it at the RNC, Romney pushed hard for and got an individual mandate so that everyone in the state would have health insurance. His plan even gained the endorsement of long time rival and uber liberal Ted Kennedy. If that's the Romney who shows up at the White House in 2013, I'm OK with that.


You really think with the likely makeup of Congress his administration would be filled with minimal amounts of derp? I'm guessing you haven't been paying attention to a lot of the races nation-wide.
 
2012-09-05 04:54:11 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Why is Nicky Minge popular?


When she's not in some ridiculous outfit, she's pretty attractive. Her music is rather hit-and-miss; some of her songs are catchy, but most of them are the sort of gimmicky, cookie-cutter stuff that we'd call "bubble-gum pop" if it didn't include clear references to sex and a healthy does of expletives.
 
2012-09-05 04:56:49 PM
Maybe my favorite will vote Romney this year...


Political Science
Randy Newman


No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Paris
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono babe
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now.....
 
2012-09-05 05:05:16 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LLc74FKuF8o/SH6R2dMAuzI/AAAAAAAAA54/TxcozmUG Fms/s400/TedDanson.jpg

Boudica's War Tampon: [cdn.uproxx.com image 678x384]

Another Republican black musician possibly voting for Romney


2.bp.blogspot.com

/democrat
 
2012-09-05 05:07:48 PM

Cortez the Killer: Deucednuisance: Barnstormer: Whatever party he's for or how long it's been since his band had a hit makes no difference to me, Popper is still one of the finest harmonica players anywhere.

Being able to play real fast scales in a manner that may or may not relate to the actual chord changes does not make one the "finest", heck it barely makes one "technically proficient".

You gotta be able to make music.

You want a fine harmonica player? Here's one:

[abcnewsradioonline.com image 630x354]

Here's another, let's see if he rates an "obscure":

[www.northseajazzhotels.com image 750x501]

In an interview, Popper had the audacity to say Neil Young was a shiatty harmonica player and that he was vastly superior.

Was that clown serious? Who gives a shiat how fast you can play the thing, the harmonica is ALL about the feel...and Neil has it in spades.


Who would have thought Cortez the Killer would defend Neil Young. Neil would vote Obama, except that he is Canadian.

/I wanted that user name, damn you!
 
2012-09-05 05:09:34 PM

Dented Ford: karnal:
I think of this guy: 

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 300x387]

Seconded

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]


Wrong. This guy
www.stereotimes.com
 
2012-09-05 05:10:39 PM

badaboom: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LLc74FKuF8o/SH6R2dMAuzI/AAAAAAAAA54/TxcozmU G Fms/s400/TedDanson.jpgBoudica's War Tampon: [cdn.uproxx.com image 678x384]

Another Republican black musician possibly voting for Romney

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x400]

/democrat


Don't forget/try not to visualize that he was nailing Whoopie Goldberg at the time and IIRC correctly she helped write the routine he performed. Not actively racist so much as merely actively unfunny.
 
2012-09-05 05:11:07 PM

elysive: My question was why are people felating our current president. Perhaps you can answer that.


Oh, simple. Number one rule of being a democrat is never admit you were wrong.
 
2012-09-05 05:12:07 PM

Raug the Dwarf: Now, it's just a place to lump all the crazies and people who can't be classified, but actual Libertarianism has tenets and core values similar to both Republican and Democrats. They've just gotten lost and muddled and buried over the years.


Agreed. Libertarianism can be described as a cross between Republican small government leanings and Democrat social acceptance leanings. I don't think the business world needs to go completely unregulated, nor do I think the private lives and actions of individuals need to go unregulated when they affect others. What you do that doesn't affect other people is your own business and the government has no reason to intrude. The pro-life/pro-choice argument simply hangs on when you think a fetus becomes a person.
 
2012-09-05 05:12:30 PM

Persnickety: While I agree with you, the reason for more state and local control is usually tied to the trust issue more than the less government issue. It is much easier to hide waste and fraud in a multi-trillion dollar federal budget spread out all over the country. It much harder to do it at the local level. Living in NH, all but a handful of cities are governed by town meeting, i.e. direct democracy. If anyone tries to sneak something into the town budget, the retired old men who usually have nothing better to do but yell at clouds most days, will find out and raise holy hell. Since the town budget is only a few dozen pages, it's small enough for people to keep tabs on it and compare it to previous years' budgets. 90% of their complaints are unfounded but on occasion, they do really find something that either was a mistake (most often), a duplicate (next most common) or something underhanded (rare, but it happens), Being fully empowered citizen-legislators, they petition to remove these items from budget and as such, this type of corruption gets eliminated. You can't really do this sort of thing at the higher levels.


Local gov in the Northeast isn't local gov in the rest of the US. Given where you're from I can understand why you'd have this opinion of local government, but in the rest of the US, local government is a very different animal. In the South, local politics has been run through personal patronage systems and outright graft since before the civil war, and while there have certainly been reforms over the decades, that tradition has a disturbing tendency to re-assert itself. In the mountain West and Southwest, local and state governments have been heavily influenced by industrial interests since before accession. First it was the mines and the railroads, now its the mines, the ranches, and the loggers. This is obviously anecdotal, so take it with whatever amount of salt you feel it deserves, but my father -a Texas civil servant who's spent nearly 40 years dealing with every level of government there is- has a saying; the smaller the government the more crooked. At the local, county, and State level, backroom deals and pay-offs from industry are how everything gets done around here, whether its zoning, pricing prime land, bidding out road and utility contracts, or choosing vendors for state Health services. They get away with it because strong mayors and non-rotating, small, elective city councils are more common out here, because hardly anyone is looking, because at the local level there are fewer, less wealthy people responsible for compliance making bribery/trickery easier, because local politics is small bananas money-wise and thus easy to legally manipulate via campaign funding, and because they're the ones producing the documents that would tip anyone off about corruption in the first place. Also, local politics in the South and West can be far bigger than people realize. I was born in a town few people have ever heard of called Bryan/College Station with a population of ~170,000. There are "small" sub-metro areas like that all over the South, Midwest, and West. Eight page budgets aren't exactly the norm around here.
 
2012-09-05 05:20:27 PM

Kurmudgeon: An ass so big, it's pixelated!
Well kinda. sort of.
/sorry
[sunsetintherearview.com image 500x661]


i thought they were artifacts from a badly compressed jpeg.
 
2012-09-05 05:23:06 PM
Yes, yes, but who is John Stamos voting for?
 
2012-09-05 05:24:21 PM

Crewmannumber6: meat0918: A lot of those were "They are registered Republican, therefore they will obviously vote for any Republican the party puts up."

I'm a registered republican and I'll be voting Obama this year


I'm sorry. Did you lose a bet or something? {{{ hugs }}}
 
2012-09-05 05:30:00 PM

douchebag/hater: WTF Indeed: You mean rich people vote their self interests? HOW DARE THEY!!

Wow. And POOR people DON'T vote for their self-interests?

Who knew?

Nope, the poor vote for their self-interest in every election by trying to elect candidates that will give them more of the workers' money.

Right now the lower 49% of the income earners pay NO taxes.
When you pay no taxes at all, none, zero and yet STILL get back thousands from the IRS's 'earned income tax credits' tell me who is really screwing the tax payer; it's not the '1%', that's for sure.


Amen, brotherman.
 
2012-09-05 05:32:55 PM

digitalrain: douchebag/hater: WTF Indeed: You mean rich people vote their self interests? HOW DARE THEY!!

Wow. And POOR people DON'T vote for their self-interests?

Who knew?

Nope, the poor vote for their self-interest in every election by trying to elect candidates that will give them more of the workers' money.

Right now the lower 49% of the income earners pay NO taxes.
When you pay no taxes at all, none, zero and yet STILL get back thousands from the IRS's 'earned income tax credits' tell me who is really screwing the tax payer; it's not the '1%', that's for sure.

Amen, brotherman.


I think it's something about the very-wealthy rigging the system to f*ck the middle class.
 
2012-09-05 05:32:57 PM

douchebag/hater: Right now the lower 49% of the income earners pay NO taxes.
When you pay no taxes at all, none, zero and yet STILL get back thousands from the IRS's 'earned income tax credits' tell me who is really screwing the tax payer; it's not the '1%', that's for sure.


Tell you what, do you a deal. We'll do a flat-rate tax on every man, woman, and child in the country. No exemptions, no credits, no hiding money offshore, no loopholes and shell games, no BS at all. Just a single percentage for everyone, on every cent you make, regardless of source.

That's a win, win, win for ya, amirite? Those pesky low-income earners don't get any credits, they pay the exact same rate poor little overtaxed you do, and you save a fortune on accountants and your oh-so-valuable time talking to them.

Wait, why have you stopped listening? Could it be because you're not *really* interested in a fair system, just one that lets the rich screw over most of the population of the country, pay little to nothing themselves, and scream all the while that it's all *so* unfair.

(I've heard throwing in made-up or intentionally misleading quotes like "49% of the income earners pay NO taxes" helps. It's not true, because you're ignoring payroll taxes, state taxes, sales taxes, etc. which largely and unfairly target the low-income earners, but hey, it sounds good, right? That's all that really matters when you know your actual position greatly favors you, and thus your arguments are insupportable.

In the real world, 88% of all US households paid payroll and federal taxes in 2011, and basically every household in the country paid once state, sales, and other taxes are included.)

So yeah, wanna go for that flat-rate ultra-fair tax? No? Yeah, I thought so.
 
2012-09-05 05:33:53 PM

gweilo8888: douchebag/hater: Right now the lower 49% of the income earners pay NO taxes.
When you pay no taxes at all, none, zero and yet STILL get back thousands from the IRS's 'earned income tax credits' tell me who is really screwing the tax payer; it's not the '1%', that's for sure.

Tell you what, do you a deal. We'll do a flat-rate tax on every man, woman, and child in the country. No exemptions, no credits, no hiding money offshore, no loopholes and shell games, no BS at all. Just a single percentage for everyone, on every cent you make, regardless of source.

That's a win, win, win for ya, amirite? Those pesky low-income earners don't get any credits, they pay the exact same rate poor little overtaxed you do, and you save a fortune on accountants and your oh-so-valuable time talking to them.

Wait, why have you stopped listening? Could it be because you're not *really* interested in a fair system, just one that lets the rich screw over most of the population of the country, pay little to nothing themselves, and scream all the while that it's all *so* unfair.

(I've heard throwing in made-up or intentionally misleading quotes like "49% of the income earners pay NO taxes" helps. It's not true, because you're ignoring payroll taxes, state taxes, sales taxes, etc. which largely and unfairly target the low-income earners, but hey, it sounds good, right? That's all that really matters when you know your actual position greatly favors you, and thus your arguments are insupportable.

In the real world, 88% of all US households paid payroll and federal taxes in 2011, and basically every household in the country paid once state, sales, and other taxes are included.)

So yeah, wanna go for that flat-rate ultra-fair tax? No? Yeah, I thought so.


*fistbump*
 
2012-09-05 05:35:47 PM

Heron: I was born in a town few people have ever heard of called Bryan/College Station


That explains it.

/kidding

There is something to the comment about local politics being different in the southwest. Long-term city managers, mayors-for-life, city councils that don't change unless someone retires are more the norm than the exception.
 
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