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2012-09-05 04:21:41 AM  
I can't imagine a bag of rock salt losing against Christie's re-election. Unless he eats it.
 
2012-09-05 04:27:20 AM  
It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.
 
2012-09-05 05:44:00 AM  
So much for burned bridges.

He was passionate, and spoke the damn truth. Every other time we were "at war" we raised taxes (in one form or another) to pay for the cost. This time, we sent the middle and lower class kids off to war, and gave the top 1% a big farking raise.
 
2012-09-05 05:45:07 AM  

simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.


No wonder Hillary won't be at the convention. She can't be happy seeing another Obama stepping up to take away her shot at president.
 
2012-09-05 05:48:57 AM  

mediablitz: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

No wonder Hillary won't be at the convention. She can't be happy seeing another Obama stepping up to take away her shot at president.


Well, Michelle has what, a 60% favorable rating?
 
2012-09-05 06:09:53 AM  

mediablitz: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

No wonder Hillary won't be at the convention. She can't be happy seeing another Obama stepping up to take away her shot at president.


I don't foresee a Hillary run for 2016 but I also don't see Michelle running for 2016, either.
 
2012-09-05 06:11:32 AM  

simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.


Yup, she totally nailed it. Castro's speech was effective, as well. Lily Ledbetter was some good stuff too.
 
2012-09-05 06:16:24 AM  
I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?
 
2012-09-05 06:20:52 AM  

Bontesla: mediablitz: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

No wonder Hillary won't be at the convention. She can't be happy seeing another Obama stepping up to take away her shot at president.

I don't foresee a Hillary run for 2016 but I also don't see Michelle running for 2016, either.


She's well educated, relatively young, attractive, articulate and still down to earth. And made some not subtle hints as to knowing how a presidency is run. I wouldn't count her out.
 
2012-09-05 06:23:36 AM  

MmmmBacon: I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?


Nevermind, try these on for size:

Maria Cantwell (D - Washington) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Cantwell
Kirsten Gillibrand (D - New York) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Gillibrand
Amy Klobuchar (D - Wisconsin) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Klobuchar
Mary Landrieu (D - Louisiana) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Landrieu

Thoughts?
 
2012-09-05 06:24:03 AM  

MmmmBacon: I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?


Booker looks good, and if he's managed to improve Newark, he deserves Kudos.
 
2012-09-05 06:26:40 AM  

MmmmBacon: MmmmBacon: I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?

Nevermind, try these on for size:

Maria Cantwell (D - Washington) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Cantwell
Kirsten Gillibrand (D - New York) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Gillibrand
Amy Klobuchar (D - Wisconsin) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Klobuchar
Mary Landrieu (D - Louisiana) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Landrieu

Thoughts?


Don't know the others, but Landreiu comes from a long line of tainted politicians.
 
2012-09-05 06:26:58 AM  

MmmmBacon: MmmmBacon: I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?

Nevermind, try these on for size:

Maria Cantwell (D - Washington)
Kirsten Gillibrand (D - New York)
Amy Klobuchar (D - Minnesota)
Mary Landrieu (D - Louisiana)

Thoughts?


Sorry, went to preview and submitted instead. Mods, please delete last if you would.
 
2012-09-05 06:33:46 AM  

simplicimus: Booker looks good, and if he's managed to improve Newark, he deserves Kudos.

I didn't say he would be a bad candidate. I'd vote for him if he's the candidate, in fact. I just think he's a little too outside Washington to be "The Man", without either doing a stint as VP or one term as Senator first. Too many old-school types behind the Democratic Party to allow otherwise. Thus a pretty female Democrat will be run instead, especially if Palin is the GOP pick.

simplicimus: Don't know the others, but Landreiu comes from a long line of tainted politicians.

Aww, she's the hottest of the bunch, too.
 
2012-09-05 06:53:06 AM  
I dunno subby, he looks awfully "blah" to me.
 
2012-09-05 06:58:52 AM  

quatchi: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

Yup, she totally nailed it. Castro's speech was effective, as well. Lily Ledbetter was some good stuff too.


Judging by all the shoutouts to the Texas delegation, I think Castro may try to make a run for governor in 2 years. 

He couldn't do worse than that hairdo in the governor's mansion now.
 
2012-09-05 07:05:35 AM  

stoli n coke: quatchi: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

Yup, she totally nailed it. Castro's speech was effective, as well. Lily Ledbetter was some good stuff too.

Judging by all the shoutouts to the Texas delegation, I think Castro may try to make a run for governor in 2 years. 

He couldn't do worse than that hairdo in the governor's mansion now.


You are correct. He will carry Houston, Austin, Dallas and San Antonio, but I don't know if that's enough votes.
 
2012-09-05 07:36:05 AM  

simplicimus: stoli n coke: quatchi: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

Yup, she totally nailed it. Castro's speech was effective, as well. Lily Ledbetter was some good stuff too.

Judging by all the shoutouts to the Texas delegation, I think Castro may try to make a run for governor in 2 years. 

He couldn't do worse than that hairdo in the governor's mansion now.

You are correct. He will carry Houston, Austin, Dallas and San Antonio, but I don't know if that's enough votes.


Dallas may be a toss up, but I think you're right about the other cities.

Plus, he'd have good chances in El Paso, Corpus Christi, and Brownsville.

The Hispanic vote is about to become the deciding factor in many Texas elections. That's why the state legislature pushed that voter ID law and are screaming now that a judge has halted it.

Plus, several folks here, even dyed in the wool conservatives, are still shaking their heads over Perry's disaster of a presidential run.
 
2012-09-05 07:42:08 AM  
Cory Booker is fantastic. He runs Newark with a modern open door: he lives on Twitter and you can easily flag him for problems, which he will go about fixing if he can. I wouldn't think twice about backing him for President. Is Cuomo giving a speech? He's a much more likely candidate for 2016 and almost as good.
 
2012-09-05 07:59:22 AM  

simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.


Michelle Obama may be headed for a political career, but it won't start with a run for president.
 
2012-09-05 08:02:11 AM  

MmmmBacon: I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?


If there is a God,Tammy Duckworth is on her way up the ladder.
 
2012-09-05 08:18:37 AM  

GAT_00: Cory Booker is fantastic. He runs Newark with a modern open door: he lives on Twitter and you can easily flag him for problems, which he will go about fixing if he can. I wouldn't think twice about backing him for President. Is Cuomo giving a speech? He's a much more likely candidate for 2016 and almost as good.


I wouldn't want to debate or run against him. Once he's got your ear, your in. He's inspiring as all hell, and he seems to be in it to help, not to push his narcissistic ego.
 
2012-09-05 08:21:56 AM  
From an outsider's perspective, the one who really brought it home was Deval Patrick. That guy was magnificent.

Michelle was great, but she's a wife who talked up her husband. Nothing about her career, which is understandable considering the job she was given, but a bit more about working women besides Obama's grandma would have been good.
Julian Castro was nice but nowhere near as good as Obama in 2004, and his only role would be to negate that comb-over Republican guy from Florida.
Tammy Duckworth was terrific - she should be groomed for a future federal career over people like Castro if she manages to win.
Cory Booker is a very impressive man.

Clinton/Booker?
Patrick/Duckworth?
 
2012-09-05 08:43:22 AM  

stoli n coke: Dallas may be a toss up, but I think you're right about the other cities.

Plus, he'd have good chances in El Paso, Corpus Christi, and Brownsville.

The Hispanic vote is about to become the deciding factor in many Texas elections. That's why the state legislature pushed that voter ID law and are screaming now that a judge has halted it.

Plus, several folks here, even dyed in the wool conservatives, are still shaking their heads over Perry's disaster of a presidential run.


He'd carry Dallas proper, but I'm not sure about the endless suburbs of the Metroplex.

I think he'd pull, oh, 95% or so in the Rio Grande Valley.

Demographics say Texas is a few years away from tilting Dem. Good job pushing immigration as an anti-Hispanic issue, GOP.
 
2012-09-05 08:49:32 AM  
Huntsman/Booker 2016
 
2012-09-05 08:54:31 AM  
Once you go black, etc.
 
2012-09-05 09:02:52 AM  

shastacola: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

Michelle Obama may be headed for a political career, but it won't start with a run for president.


At this point I would be amazed if she doesn't run for an Illinois Senate seat around 2020 or whenever around that time or later a seat opens up. Their kids will be old enough, and I'm sure would do just fine with their stay at home dad.
 
2012-09-05 09:08:54 AM  

quatchi: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

Yup, she totally nailed it. Castro's speech was effective, as well. Lily Ledbetter was some good stuff too.


My take-home thus far from the DNC is that their bench is deeper than I thought it was. Strickland was INEXPLICABLY LOUD but effective. Tim Kaine looks like a rising star on the national scene. Tammy Duckworth is a little monotone, but her story and her determination/drive are amazing. Deval Patrick gave a great speech. Warren, Sebelius, Antonio Villaraigosa, O'Malley, Cuomo, etc. all look like they have bright futures.

They can put viable candidates from every "group" on stage without propping up crazy people, which will matter a lot when you look at demographic trends. There's reason to think the Democrats could be competitive in Texas within a decade, thanks to years of Republicans' demonizing of Hispanics despite a good bit of common ground on religion and social issues. And if Texas flips blue, Republicans should just stop running for President for a while, because it would only cost them money they could be spending on House races.
 
2012-09-05 09:23:46 AM  

MmmmBacon: MmmmBacon: MmmmBacon: I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?

Nevermind, try these on for size:

Maria Cantwell (D - Washington)
Kirsten Gillibrand (D - New York)
Amy Klobuchar (D - Minnesota)
Mary Landrieu (D - Louisiana)

Thoughts?

Sorry, went to preview and submitted instead. Mods, please delete last if you would.


Gentle correction - Amy Klobuchar is from Minnesota. And I see a run for governor in her future first.
 
2012-09-05 09:27:34 AM  

Arkanaut: Once you go black, etc.


There are a number of possible 2016 tickets that could be composed of two minorities

TimonC346: GAT_00: Cory Booker is fantastic. He runs Newark with a modern open door: he lives on Twitter and you can easily flag him for problems, which he will go about fixing if he can. I wouldn't think twice about backing him for President. Is Cuomo giving a speech? He's a much more likely candidate for 2016 and almost as good.

I wouldn't want to debate or run against him. Once he's got your ear, your in. He's inspiring as all hell, and he seems to be in it to help, not to push his narcissistic ego.


His personal story is the best one in politics. He came from privilege, went to Stanford, got a Rhodes scholarship to Oxford, went to Yale Law School.... then spent his entire career trying to turn Newark around while living in one of its rougher neighborhoods. He founded a society in law school to encourage people to learn about Judaism, and one of his closest friends and mentors is a rabbi named Shmully. He's a good-looking guy who played varsity football in college. He literally ran into a burning building to save one of his constituents. When a huge blizzard hit Newark and he heard about an elderly resident who needed help, Booker showed up at the dude's house and shoveled his sidewalk. He drives around his city in the middle of the night to ask people what their neighborhood problems are. He's cut crime in Newark to levels last seen in the 1940s, and the police love him. He's relentlessly positive and inspiring. His unfavorable rating in New Jersey is presently 6%.

There's a documentary on Newark called Brick City that is well worth watching for the parts focusing on Booker.

If he runs against Christie during the next cycle, you couldn't ask for a stronger contrast in charisma. For starters, Christie is an attacker, and how do you attack Booker? And even if Christie did attack, Booker would probably respond by baking Christie some low-fat oatmeal cookies and hand-delivering them with a smile.
 
2012-09-05 09:36:29 AM  

urban.derelict: I can't imagine a bag of rock salt losing against Christie's re-election. Unless he eats it.


Also, Chris Christie is presently 50 years old, so he'll be 52 in 2014, and running for office through at least age 56. Given his morbid obesity, the actuarial tables aren't optimistic about his chances of remaining healthy in an extremely stressful job. People joke about his weight, but he's long past "cosmetic problem" and into "medical threat".
 
2012-09-05 09:48:28 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: shastacola: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

Michelle Obama may be headed for a political career, but it won't start with a run for president.

At this point I would be amazed if she doesn't run for an Illinois Senate seat around 2020 or whenever around that time or later a seat opens up. Their kids will be old enough, and I'm sure would do just fine with their stay at home dad.


Looking back on it now, if Hillary Clinton had jumped right from First Lady to Presidential run, she'd have been laughed out of the country. But she went to New York, got a Senate seat, and several years later she's one of the most powerful and respected politicians in the country, and maybe in the world.

I can see Michelle taking the same route. I really, truly can.
 
2012-09-05 10:00:38 AM  
If you want to size up 2016 contenders, you are best looking to governors than anyone else. Patrick is the most likely person from last night, and Cuomo is probably a lock too. Though a few cycles down the road you may see people like Michelle and Castro, if they have further political success in the interim. Simple fact is you need to be a Governor or a Senator before you have a realistic shot at President. Mayor of NYC might be the only exception to that.
 
2012-09-05 10:03:48 AM  

Lost Thought 00: If you want to size up 2016 contenders, you are best looking to governors than anyone else. Patrick is the most likely person from last night, and Cuomo is probably a lock too. Though a few cycles down the road you may see people like Michelle and Castro, if they have further political success in the interim. Simple fact is you need to be a Governor or a Senator before you have a realistic shot at President. Mayor of NYC might be the only exception to that.


If Warren wins Mass, she's also a potential candidate.
 
2012-09-05 10:05:40 AM  

GAT_00: Cory Booker is fantastic. He runs Newark with a modern open door: he lives on Twitter and you can easily flag him for problems, which he will go about fixing if he can. I wouldn't think twice about backing him for President. Is Cuomo giving a speech? He's a much more likely candidate for 2016 and almost as good.


Cuomo's done a great job in New York so far, but I think it's going to be a while before an Italian-American from the Northeast -- especially a political scion -- is going to be able to run for national office. Too easy to make insinuations about how he got where he is, if you know what I mean.
 
2012-09-05 10:06:44 AM  

CalvinMorallis: Shrugging Atlas: shastacola: simplicimus: It was a good speech, but I'm beginning to think Michelle Obama in '16. Her speech knocked it out of the park.

Michelle Obama may be headed for a political career, but it won't start with a run for president.

At this point I would be amazed if she doesn't run for an Illinois Senate seat around 2020 or whenever around that time or later a seat opens up. Their kids will be old enough, and I'm sure would do just fine with their stay at home dad.

Looking back on it now, if Hillary Clinton had jumped right from First Lady to Presidential run, she'd have been laughed out of the country. But she went to New York, got a Senate seat, and several years later she's one of the most powerful and respected politicians in the country, and maybe in the world.

I can see Michelle taking the same route. I really, truly can.


If we're talking pie-in-the-sky, I'd love to see Michelle Obama as president. Even as FL, I think her background, presence, interests and strengths are so... archetypal Good America that I'd love to see what happens on a larger scale. You know the sorts of things I mean... Get out and exercise, play with your kids, be positive, eat well, work together. All early 20th century stuff, divorced from any bad subtext. And yes those might be fluffy presidential goals, but it's *easily* turned into a very effective and positive domestic policy, and one that I think Americans would respond to if half of them could get the fark over whatever attack of the vapours they're going through with Obama.

On topic, I learned about Cory Booker from Fark and I think he sounds awesome and is another person I'd definitely love to see as president. I don't know if his abilities scale to that size, but I'm definitely willing to help him try.
 
2012-09-05 10:07:34 AM  

Arkanaut: GAT_00: Cory Booker is fantastic. He runs Newark with a modern open door: he lives on Twitter and you can easily flag him for problems, which he will go about fixing if he can. I wouldn't think twice about backing him for President. Is Cuomo giving a speech? He's a much more likely candidate for 2016 and almost as good.

Cuomo's done a great job in New York so far, but I think it's going to be a while before an Italian-American from the Northeast -- especially a political scion -- is going to be able to run for national office. Too easy to make insinuations about how he got where he is, if you know what I mean.


An Italian-American Democrat, anyway. Christie's half-Italian.
 
2012-09-05 10:14:23 AM  

EighthDay: If Warren wins Mass, she's also a potential candidate.


Yes, though that's a non-trivial "if"
 
2012-09-05 10:25:32 AM  

simplicimus: Don't know the others, but Landreiu comes from a long line of tainted politicians.


Bad news: they all have taints. Every one of them.
 
2012-09-05 10:25:49 AM  
After watching last night - I think an interesting 2016 ticket would be:
Deval Patrick and Julian Castro

First they are great speakers, second it is a good way to lock up both the black and hispanic vote, add in the fact that Castro is Catholic (don't know about Patrick) and you have a solid voting block right there.

It would also make the right wing go nuts and Limbaugh would have heart attack.

I love the grow a back bone comment from Patrick, that alone made me like him
 
2012-09-05 10:28:46 AM  
I've always thought that Cory Booker and Al Franken would make a great, down-to-earth team.
 
2012-09-05 10:37:40 AM  

Lost Thought 00: EighthDay: If Warren wins Mass, she's also a potential candidate.

Yes, though that's a non-trivial "if"


Big fan of Warren but if she's not ahead in the polling in Massachusetts, how can she possibly expect to win a national election?
 
2012-09-05 10:43:02 AM  

THX 1138: I've always thought that Cory Booker and Al Franken would make a great, down-to-earth team.


Plus Booker will do whatever Goldman sachs wants, so he has the financial sociopath vote secured.
 
2012-09-05 12:34:54 PM  

Arkanaut: GAT_00: Cory Booker is fantastic. He runs Newark with a modern open door: he lives on Twitter and you can easily flag him for problems, which he will go about fixing if he can. I wouldn't think twice about backing him for President. Is Cuomo giving a speech? He's a much more likely candidate for 2016 and almost as good.

Cuomo's done a great job in New York so far, but I think it's going to be a while before an Italian-American from the Northeast -- especially a political scion -- is going to be able to run for national office. Too easy to make insinuations about how he got where he is, if you know what I mean.


Maybe, but we just elected a black guy not only named Barack Obama, but his name was incredibly similar to Osama, our number one enemy at the time. Never say never at this point.
 
2012-09-05 03:16:20 PM  
i really wish the dems didnt have all these people with stellar reputations and spines who give amazing speeches.
or maybe its just the contrast from the pile that was the RNC. they could literally have clowns go through the crowd and make balloon animals with NO speeches from anyone and it would be leaps and bounds above the RNC.
 
2012-09-05 04:16:23 PM  

simplicimus: MmmmBacon: MmmmBacon: I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?

Nevermind, try these on for size:

Maria Cantwell (D - Washington) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Cantwell
Kirsten Gillibrand (D - New York) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Gillibrand
Amy Klobuchar (D - Wisconsin) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Klobuchar
Mary Landrieu (D - Louisiana) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Landrieu

Thoughts?

Don't know the others, but Landreiu comes from a long line of tainted politicians.


Her father was previous Mayor of New Orleans and her brother is current Mayor of New Orleans, how is that a long line of politicians and what is tainted about their service to the public?
 
2012-09-05 04:26:02 PM  

xBIGxEASYx: simplicimus: MmmmBacon: MmmmBacon: I'd vote for Booker, seems like a solid fellow. But odds are we'll end up with a Washington Insider running at the top of the Democratic ticket in '16, with Booker doing a stint as VP, to earn his slot in 2024 maybe.

So, what attractive female Democratic Senators are there, who might run in 2016?

Nevermind, try these on for size:

Maria Cantwell (D - Washington) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Cantwell
Kirsten Gillibrand (D - New York) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Gillibrand
Amy Klobuchar (D - Wisconsin) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Klobuchar
Mary Landrieu (D - Louisiana) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Landrieu

Thoughts?

Don't know the others, but Landreiu comes from a long line of tainted politicians.

Her father was previous Mayor of New Orleans and her brother is current Mayor of New Orleans, how is that a long line of politicians and what is tainted about their service to the public?


Moon was part of deLesseps Story Morrison's machine.
 
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