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(My Fox Detroit)   Witness who shot spree shooter at Detroit party cruise terminal wakes up to find three of her family's cars on fire. And you thought 'Come back to Detroit, we missed you the first time' was just a funny t-shirt (w/video)   (myfoxdetroit.com) divider line 83
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2012-09-05 02:45:02 AM
Wait, wait, wait!

FTA...We've learned the prosecuting office is even asking police to submit a warrant request for Ladon Richard herself.

This lady fired back in order to protect her wounded family members and they want to prosecute her? Seriously, WTF??
 
2012-09-05 03:37:07 AM
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Get up
Everbody's gonna move their feet
Get down
Everbody's gonna leave their seat
You gotta lose your mind in Detroit Rock City
 
2012-09-05 03:51:29 AM
not sure why the police are getting involved at all
clearly, everyone has guns and knows how to shoot them ...
 
2012-09-05 03:52:14 AM
You kill someone, you should have to defend your action in court. Wasn't that the whole point of the Treyvon Martin case.

You weren't there you don't know the whole story. Let people who do decide her fate, it's the American way.
 
2012-09-05 06:21:42 AM
That headline gave me cancer.
 
2012-09-05 06:44:18 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Wait, wait, wait!

FTA...We've learned the prosecuting office is even asking police to submit a warrant request for Ladon Richard herself.

This lady fired back in order to protect her wounded family members and they want to prosecute her? Seriously, WTF??


It's almost the perfect bizarre twist for the NRA, somebody carrying stops wild shooter by firing back, except for one thing. Somehow, I don't think the usual crowd is going to get behind this woman.

she's black
 
2012-09-05 06:46:18 AM

Bathia_Mapes: This lady fired back in order to protect her wounded family members and they want to prosecute her? Seriously, WTF??


Generally speaking, if you shoot someone and claim self-defense, you will be investigated and possibly detained while the cops check out your claim. The detention sometimes happens, sometimes doesn't, depending on whether the cops/a judge considers you a flight risk, but the investigation always happens. If the cops actually pick you up at the scene, i.e. you shot your attacker dead and then phoned the cops rather than winging him and running, then you'll typically be cuffed and held for a few hours while the officers work out the basics of what the fark is up.

Additionally, if you're in a gunfight and shoot a criminal, protective custody may also be in order, as a number of criminals belong to criminal organizations that may come after you.

So... yes. This is more or less normal. As the person in TFA is licensed, they're fully aware that they're likely to be detained and guaranteed to be investigated, and are trying to be patient about it, that's one of the main things that you go over (repeatedly) in any CCP class. The whole point of licensing is to educate people that carry about things like this.
 
2012-09-05 06:47:39 AM
Hang on, didn't she shoot a guy who was not the woman who shot into the crowd?
 
2012-09-05 06:50:13 AM
I hope this piggy fries.
 
2012-09-05 06:51:23 AM

gaspode: Hang on, didn't she shoot a guy who was not the woman who shot into the crowd?


Correct...I think...although he seems to be the guy who ordered the first shooter, his wife, to fire into the crowd, hitting the second shooter's family member...

I need a diagram, and more than one cup of coffee.

I can just see the look on Mrs. Pungent's face if I ordered her to fire into a crowd...

Detroit's a special place.
 
2012-09-05 06:51:24 AM

wademh:
It's almost the perfect bizarre twist for the NRA, somebody carrying stops wild shooter by firing back, except for one thing. Somehow, I don't think the usual crowd is going to get behind this woman.

she's black


The NRA has a legal fund for self-defensive uses of firearms, but it only really applies to members. I guess potentially she's an NRA member, but probably not, they've been kinda crazy lately. Generally I'd recommend one of the more specialized legal defense funds you can pay into, but then I live in Texas where that kind of insurance/co-op is fairly common, they might not exist up in TFA's area.

//It should not surprise anyone that CCP carriers are big on organizations that cover their ass. You have to be a tad cynical to find going armed everywhere reasonable. I say this with all respect, being a CCP holder myself.
 
2012-09-05 06:54:18 AM

EvilEgg: You kill someone, you should have to defend your action in court. Wasn't that the whole point of the Treyvon Martin case.

You weren't there you don't know the whole story. Let people who do decide her fate, it's the American way.


She didn't kill anyone though, so it's not really the same situation.

Also, she had just been shot at. I'm not saying her actions shouldn't be reviewed; anytime a police officer fires his weapon there is a report/review, so it would make sense to look into anytime a civilian fires a gun at someone. But let's not compare this to the Martin case.
 
2012-09-05 06:55:25 AM

devastation station: I hope this piggy fries.


Ooops, wrong thread, man I'm drunk
 
2012-09-05 06:59:34 AM
An armed society is a polite society, right?
 
2012-09-05 07:01:18 AM
I wonder why her cars were set on fire?
 
2012-09-05 07:04:01 AM

jaytkay: An armed society is a polite society, right?


Detroit is the exception that proves the rule. Or something.
 
2012-09-05 07:17:11 AM

gaspode: Hang on, didn't she shoot a guy who was not the woman who shot into the crowd?


She shot the guy who told the shooter to fire into the crowd.

One suspects he may have been standing too close to his armed accomplice.
 
2012-09-05 07:18:22 AM
You have to understand, that woman started shooting because she knew nobody in Detroit has guns. Thanks a lot, libs.
 
2012-09-05 07:22:55 AM

jaytkay: An armed society is a polite society, right?


It depends on how "inner city" the society is.
 
2012-09-05 07:25:39 AM

DataShade:

She shot the guy who told the shooter to fire into the crowd.

One suspects he may have been standing too close to his armed accomplice.


Yeah but shooting an unarmed guy, even if he appears to have been a very bad guy, needs more looking into than shooting an actual shooter no?
 
2012-09-05 07:29:11 AM

ChubbyTiger: jaytkay: An armed society is a polite society, right?

Detroit is the exception that proves the rule. Or something.


Multigenerational welfare dependence at work.
 
2012-09-05 07:29:24 AM

gaspode: DataShade:

She shot the guy who told the shooter to fire into the crowd.

One suspects he may have been standing too close to his armed accomplice.

Yeah but shooting an unarmed guy, even if he appears to have been a very bad guy, needs more looking into than shooting an actual shooter no?


He may have been unarmed, but he was calling the shots.

/Pun unintended.
/...maybe.
 
2012-09-05 07:35:22 AM
So she shot the boyfriend of the shooter, and not the shooter?

I would burn her cars just for that.
 
2012-09-05 07:40:10 AM

DingleberryMoose: ChubbyTiger: jaytkay: An armed society is a polite society, right?

Detroit is the exception that proves the rule. Or something.

Multigenerational welfare dependence at work.


So it's the same in the Ozarks, right?
 
2012-09-05 07:44:29 AM
Black people problems.
 
2012-09-05 07:44:45 AM

HotWingConspiracy: DingleberryMoose: ChubbyTiger: jaytkay: An armed society is a polite society, right?

Detroit is the exception that proves the rule. Or something.

Multigenerational welfare dependence at work.

So it's the same in the Ozarks, right?


No, silly. The revenuers are to blame in the Ozarks.

/dadgum government won't let me make my whiskey
 
2012-09-05 07:55:11 AM
It sounds like she missed the shooter rather than chose to hit the shooter's partner. That's scary. "Hey, sorry you got shot in the gut, but the person who shot you was only trying to stop a spree shooter. Now doesn't that make you feel better?".
 
2012-09-05 08:12:29 AM
Hooray! The idiots make us look bad again! Chicago has had more violence this year than us, but hey.

/I am really tired of the ignorant, illiterate, uneducated assholes in my town being the farking ambassadors. If any of you folks ever want to come to Detroit and see the good stuff, which there is a lot of, let me or any of us other Detroit farkers know.
 
2012-09-05 08:16:21 AM

Discordian36: Hooray! The idiots make us look bad again! Chicago has had more violence this year than us, but hey.

/I am really tired of the ignorant, illiterate, uneducated assholes in my town being the farking ambassadors. If any of you folks ever want to come to Detroit and see the good stuff, which there is a lot of, let me or any of us other Detroit farkers know.


This. It's sad.

And yes, there's good stuff left. And no, the good stuff isn't the part where you leave Detroit.
 
2012-09-05 08:34:36 AM
I grew up in detroit and still live here (slightly north now though, and happy to be outa that shiathole) And the person above that says "If any of you folks ever want to come to Detroit and see the good stuff", Please name it? good stuff IN DETROIT.. The museums? been recently.. not good.. science center.. gone.. the Fox.. boring.. there is NOTHING good here, its even worse than it was in the 80's when i was a kid. The only good thing in detroit are the Red Wings, and hell they arn't even good now and won't be any hockey this year... FML...
 
2012-09-05 08:36:38 AM
Only white people shoot into crowds... WTF
 
2012-09-05 08:45:22 AM
Ain't no party like a Detroit party cuz fark YOU THATS WHY.
 
2012-09-05 08:46:45 AM

Discordian36: /I am really tired of the ignorant, illiterate, uneducated assholes in my town being the farking ambassadors. If any of you folks ever want to come to Detroit and see the good stuff, which there is a lot of, let me or any of us other Detroit farkers know.


Sorry, I prefer to keep my "good stuff" inside me, where it belongs.

/I might need those both those kidneys myself some day
 
2012-09-05 08:50:15 AM

Icetech3: I grew up in detroit and still live here (slightly north now though, and happy to be outa that shiathole) And the person above that says "If any of you folks ever want to come to Detroit and see the good stuff", Please name it? good stuff IN DETROIT.. The museums? been recently.. not good.. science center.. gone.. the Fox.. boring.. there is NOTHING good here, its even worse than it was in the 80's when i was a kid. The only good thing in detroit are the Red Wings, and hell they arn't even good now and won't be any hockey this year... FML...


You are either not from from the area and trolling (if so, meh 1-10) or are a complete agoraphobic. In either case, yes, FYL.
 
2012-09-05 08:50:59 AM

EvilEgg: You kill someone, you should have to defend your action in court. Wasn't that the whole point of the Treyvon Martin case.

You weren't there you don't know the whole story. Let people who do decide her fate, it's the American way.


Actually, "the American way" is that the police investigate and then prosecutors decide whether or not charges are appropriate. You don't get automatically hauled into court for shooting someone because shooting someone isn't automatically illegal.
 
2012-09-05 09:05:04 AM
The story thus far-

Some animal and his biatch shoot up a boatload of people.
One of the victims shoots back, hitting the loser.
Then the shooter's grandmother calls her personal friend, Kym Worthy (the local prosecutor)
No one gets charged, the shooters are free to begin new careers in the exciting field of arson

It sounds like this Kym Worthy biatch needs to be shot at a few times so she can feel what its like to be on the bad end of a gun

F*ck you, Kym Worthy, you are a disgrace and your grave will be pissed on.
 
2012-09-05 09:06:08 AM

wademh

I don't think the usual crowd is going to get behind this woman.
Why is that your opinion?
 
2012-09-05 09:09:47 AM

Tatterdemalian: Discordian36: /I am really tired of the ignorant, illiterate, uneducated assholes in my town being the farking ambassadors. If any of you folks ever want to come to Detroit and see the good stuff, which there is a lot of, let me or any of us other Detroit farkers know.

Sorry, I prefer to keep my "good stuff" inside me, where it belongs.


Go on...

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2012-09-05 09:12:32 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Wait, wait, wait!

FTA...We've learned the prosecuting office is even asking police to submit a warrant request for Ladon Richard herself.

This lady fired back in order to protect her wounded family members and they want to prosecute her? Seriously, WTF??


.
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Welcome to the weird and mysterious land of so called progressives.
 
2012-09-05 09:27:57 AM

wademh: It's almost the perfect bizarre twist for the NRA, somebody carrying stops wild shooter by firing back, except for one thing. Somehow, I don't think the usual crowd is going to get behind this woman.

. Michael Thomas allegedly ordered his wife, Latoiya Mitchell, to shoot into the crowd.

She allegedly did, striking six people - including Richard's sister and other family members. So Richard grabbed her registered gun and fired back, protecting her family. She struck Thomas in the back.



She didn't shoot the shooter.
 
2012-09-05 09:38:29 AM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-05 09:38:44 AM
Is this Michael Thomas the football player or just some random D-bag ?
 
2012-09-05 09:46:14 AM

FabulousFreep: Is this Michael Thomas the football player or just some random D-bag ?


Tubbs maybe?
 
2012-09-05 10:08:05 AM
Can they not just flush the gang-bangers all out?

Start shooting them in the head.
 
2012-09-05 10:09:46 AM
Not enough people are talking about the car fires. Who lit them? Were the original spree shooting pair let free, as alluded to upthread? Were they relatives/friends of the pair?

I get that we probably don't know yet, but the issue is the lack of relevant detail.

If the original 'shooting couple' were not arrested, that's just as big a story as a defensive shooter who (sorta) missed. What kind of corruption is goin' on there?
 
2012-09-05 10:11:21 AM

ArmagedDan: Not enough people are talking about the car fires. Who lit them? Were the original spree shooting pair let free, as alluded to upthread? Were they relatives/friends of the pair?

I get that we probably don't know yet, but the issue is the lack of relevant detail.

If the original 'shooting couple' were not arrested, that's just as big a story as a defensive shooter who (sorta) missed. What kind of corruption is goin' on there?


The Prosecutor is friends with the shooter and the shooter's d-bag husband.
 
2012-09-05 10:14:33 AM

Leeds: ArmagedDan: Not enough people are talking about the car fires. Who lit them? Were the original spree shooting pair let free, as alluded to upthread? Were they relatives/friends of the pair?

I get that we probably don't know yet, but the issue is the lack of relevant detail.

If the original 'shooting couple' were not arrested, that's just as big a story as a defensive shooter who (sorta) missed. What kind of corruption is goin' on there?

The Prosecutor is friends with the shooter and the shooter's d-bag husband.


Is this a dig on detroit, or are you serious?
 
2012-09-05 10:18:17 AM

ArmagedDan: Not enough people are talking about the car fires. Who lit them? Were the original spree shooting pair let free, as alluded to upthread? Were they relatives/friends of the pair?

I get that we probably don't know yet, but the issue is the lack of relevant detail.

If the original 'shooting couple' were not arrested, that's just as big a story as a defensive shooter who (sorta) missed. What kind of corruption is goin' on there?


This.

The whole story is messed up, and it feels like this is more than a person who was caught in the crossfire of a random argument. There's a back story here, and without it, nothing is making sense.

Also, Leeds, are you serious about the Prosecutor having a conflict of interest? If you know some back story, please share.
 
2012-09-05 10:25:49 AM

EvilEgg: You kill someone, you should have to defend your action in court. Wasn't that the whole point of the Treyvon Martin case.

You weren't there you don't know the whole story. Let people who do decide her fate, it's the American way.


Neondistraction: She didn't kill anyone though, so it's not really the same situation.

Also, she had just been shot at. I'm not saying her actions shouldn't be reviewed; anytime a police officer fires his weapon there is a report/review, so it would make sense to look into anytime a civilian fires a gun at someone. But let's not compare this to the Martin case.


What Neondistraction said.

I was going to frame it differently, but there's nothing American about having your fate arbitrarily placed in the hands of twelve people who don't really want to be there anyway. Yes, when the state believes you have committed a crime, that's the process, but that's the first fail-safe, right there. If the state already believes that no crime has been committed, the idea of putting someone on trial for it is barbarism.

There are many cases in self-defense killings where the killing is uncontested (not even by the killer), but the self-defense element is up in the air. The Martin case was one of those, and bringing it to trial was justified. This appears to be...rather less foggy.

/ ...and if you ever do have to kill in self-defense, wait for your lawyer before you talk to the police. Don't even acknowledge that you were there until you've talked to your lawyer.
 
2012-09-05 10:46:25 AM

Private_Citizen: ArmagedDan: Not enough people are talking about the car fires. Who lit them? Were the original spree shooting pair let free, as alluded to upthread? Were they relatives/friends of the pair?

I get that we probably don't know yet, but the issue is the lack of relevant detail.

If the original 'shooting couple' were not arrested, that's just as big a story as a defensive shooter who (sorta) missed. What kind of corruption is goin' on there?

This.

The whole story is messed up, and it feels like this is more than a person who was caught in the crossfire of a random argument. There's a back story here, and without it, nothing is making sense.

Also, Leeds, are you serious about the Prosecutor having a conflict of interest? If you know some back story, please share.


Other articles have reported that the victims' attorney said: "It has come to my understanding that the suspect's grandmother has a close personal relationship with Kym Worthy."

Kim Worthy is the Prosecutor who refuses to arrest the shooter/suspect.

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