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2012-09-04 02:41:18 PM
He's right. Every time he opens his mouth, he should remind voters that they now pay more interest on loans and credit cards because Republicans held america's credit rating hostage, causing it to be downgraded for the first time in history.
 
2012-09-04 02:49:09 PM
Kind of tough getting anything done in a room full of petulant children.
 
2012-09-04 02:56:50 PM
Republicans actually believe that Obama is at fault for whatever he hasn't yet fixed from their last farkup, which of course they don't believe they are responsible for either.
 
2012-09-04 02:58:07 PM
Republicans, if not conservatives in general, are basically at fault for everything that's happened since ~1980
 
2012-09-04 03:00:30 PM
He could say this 10 times every day and it wouldn't overemphasize how badly the republicans screwed up this country.
 
2012-09-04 03:00:49 PM

Lurking Fear: He's right. Every time he opens his mouth, he should remind voters that they now pay more interest on loans and credit cards because Republicans held america's credit rating hostage, causing it to be downgraded for the first time in history.


Not to mention the fact that many Americans' retirement accounts were farked up by the GOP's little stunt as well. 

/will never forgive those Teabagging bastards for that
 
2012-09-04 03:01:19 PM
America really does need to be reminded on a daily basis just how awful the modern GOP really is. They have really poor memory retention, apparently.
 
2012-09-04 03:01:47 PM

Lurking Fear: He's right. Every time he opens his mouth, he should remind voters that they now pay more interest on loans and credit cards because Republicans held america's credit rating hostage, causing it to be downgraded for the first time in history.


I saw a "Republican strategist" on MSNBC over the weekend. They watched an Obama speech in Oregon on Saturday, and after the clip she said "I'm gonna take off my Republican hat and just talk as a strategist" and then proceed to blast him on his "arrogant" tone. In reality, she'd just taken off her strategist hat and talked as a Republican.

Why I'm replying to you: she would've said that your strategy was a losing one for the Democrats. Y'know, just as a "strategist".
 
2012-09-04 03:02:12 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Republicans actually believe that Obama is at fault for whatever he hasn't yet fixed from their last farkup, which of course they don't believe they are responsible for either.


For a party that takes no responsibility for the economic meltdown, it is funny how they didn't invite a single speaker from the Bush administration to speak at the RNC other than Condi.
 
2012-09-04 03:02:29 PM
Well, an honest discussion about the current situation in the US would have to start with how things completely fell apart under Bush and how Republicans in Congress, blatantly admitted by McConnell, have the goal of obstructing any progress in the country just to make Obama a one term president. Leaving that out of the discussion would not be honest. Of course, then, I would expect Republicans to do just that and scream at the top of their lungs if anyone else dares not to.
 
2012-09-04 03:04:11 PM

mrshowrules: AdolfOliverPanties: Republicans actually believe that Obama is at fault for whatever he hasn't yet fixed from their last farkup, which of course they don't believe they are responsible for either.

For a party that takes no responsibility for the economic meltdown, it is funny how they didn't invite a single speaker from the Bush administration to speak at the RNC other than Condi.


And have Romney and Ryan proposed anything that Republicans didn't propose under the Bush administration? They never mention Bush and his team, but they damn well have surrounded themselves with the same people behind the scenes (and same ideas which they try to not actually speak).
 
2012-09-04 03:08:03 PM
He's not blaming them enough. Not even close. Everyone knows that, especially the republicans who won't admit it.
 
2012-09-04 03:13:59 PM

WorldCitizen: Well, an honest discussion about the current situation in the US would have to start with how things completely fell apart under Bush and how Republicans in Congress, blatantly admitted by McConnell, have the goal of obstructing any progress in the country just to make Obama a one term president. Leaving that out of the discussion would not be honest. Of course, then, I would expect Republicans to do just that and scream at the top of their lungs if anyone else dares not to.


To be completely honest, you would have to indicate how the banking deregulation began even under Clinton. Granted it was pushed by Conservatives.
 
2012-09-04 03:15:04 PM

mrshowrules: AdolfOliverPanties: Republicans actually believe that Obama is at fault for whatever he hasn't yet fixed from their last farkup, which of course they don't believe they are responsible for either.

For a party that takes no responsibility for the economic meltdown, it is funny how they didn't invite a single speaker from the Bush administration to speak at the RNC other than Condi.


yeah but they really,really needed a black woman to prove their diversity.
 
2012-09-04 03:18:02 PM

WorldCitizen: mrshowrules: AdolfOliverPanties: Republicans actually believe that Obama is at fault for whatever he hasn't yet fixed from their last farkup, which of course they don't believe they are responsible for either.

For a party that takes no responsibility for the economic meltdown, it is funny how they didn't invite a single speaker from the Bush administration to speak at the RNC other than Condi.

And have Romney and Ryan proposed anything that Republicans didn't propose under the Bush administration? They never mention Bush and his team, but they damn well have surrounded themselves with the same people behind the scenes (and same ideas which they try to not actually speak).


I'd like to see a side by side of the Bush administration and Romney's team. Then make a graphic of it and post it all over the 'net. Maybe it'd even get on a commercial. Hammer home to voters that Romney's plans were Bush's.
 
2012-09-04 03:18:16 PM

Lurking Fear: He's right. Every time he opens his mouth, he should remind voters that they now pay more interest on loans and credit cards because Republicans held america's credit rating hostage, causing it to be downgraded for the first time in history.


Liberals like to cry and whine about this, but if they had simply given Republicans 100% of what they wanted instead of the measly 98%, we wouldn't be in this mess.
 
2012-09-04 03:18:44 PM

mrshowrules: WorldCitizen: Well, an honest discussion about the current situation in the US would have to start with how things completely fell apart under Bush and how Republicans in Congress, blatantly admitted by McConnell, have the goal of obstructing any progress in the country just to make Obama a one term president. Leaving that out of the discussion would not be honest. Of course, then, I would expect Republicans to do just that and scream at the top of their lungs if anyone else dares not to.

To be completely honest, you would have to indicate how the banking deregulation began even under Clinton. Granted it was pushed by Conservatives.


actually "too big to fail" was given legitimacy under Reagan during the Keating 5 S&L debacle. Then the banks were all like "hey they will bail us out if we fark up and they won't break us up especially if we get them involved hip deep in it"
 
2012-09-04 03:18:55 PM

DeltaPunch: Lurking Fear: He's right. Every time he opens his mouth, he should remind voters that they now pay more interest on loans and credit cards because Republicans held america's credit rating hostage, causing it to be downgraded for the first time in history.

Liberals like to cry and whine about this, but if they had simply given Republicans 100% of what they wanted instead of the measly 98%, we wouldn't be in this mess.


What mess would we be in?
 
2012-09-04 03:34:01 PM

Mugato: He's not blaming them enough. Not even close. Everyone knows that, especially the republicans who won't admit it.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.  

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close. 
 

 
2012-09-04 03:38:25 PM

mrshowrules: WorldCitizen: Well, an honest discussion about the current situation in the US would have to start with how things completely fell apart under Bush and how Republicans in Congress, blatantly admitted by McConnell, have the goal of obstructing any progress in the country just to make Obama a one term president. Leaving that out of the discussion would not be honest. Of course, then, I would expect Republicans to do just that and scream at the top of their lungs if anyone else dares not to.

To be completely honest, you would have to indicate how the banking deregulation began even under Clinton. Granted it was pushed by Conservatives.


Oh yes, totally fair. Clinton does not get out of this. He signed the damn bill that set it all off. (as well as DOMA which has him on my short list).
 
2012-09-04 03:38:36 PM
Because he's not.
 
2012-09-04 03:39:07 PM

Nadie_AZ: DeltaPunch: Lurking Fear: He's right. Every time he opens his mouth, he should remind voters that they now pay more interest on loans and credit cards because Republicans held america's credit rating hostage, causing it to be downgraded for the first time in history.

Liberals like to cry and whine about this, but if they had simply given Republicans 100% of what they wanted instead of the measly 98%, we wouldn't be in this mess.

What mess would we be in?


A 2% larger one.
 
2012-09-04 03:41:40 PM

Nadie_AZ: I'd like to see a side by side of the Bush administration and Romney's team. Then make a graphic of it and post it all over the 'net. Maybe it'd even get on a commercial. Hammer home to voters that Romney's plans were Bush's.


In case ANYONE doesn't know many of the guys that deceived us into the Iraq War are now working for Romney, watch this short clip.
 
2012-09-04 03:42:18 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Mugato: He's not blaming them enough. Not even close. Everyone knows that, especially the republicans who won't admit it.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.  

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.


He's not blaming them enough. Not even close
 
2012-09-04 03:43:21 PM
Well, we now know where they pulled their sample from
 
2012-09-04 03:48:26 PM
I would be okay with more blame games if and only if the blaming is accompanied by detailed solutions and specific changes that are suggested or needed or proposed that would fix the things that are broken. Blame by itself is purely political campaigning, which I'm tired of. Blame followed by "and here's what we can do about it" serves as a preamble to demonstrating how much you're thinking about the issue and being proactive about it.
 
2012-09-04 03:49:20 PM
Actually it's the public who doesn't blame Republicans enough, making it a doubtful strategy for Obama. Fortunately, the GOP has decided to ask America if they're better off now than they were four years ago, opening the door for Obama to remind everyone just where this mess came from.
 
2012-09-04 03:57:40 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Fortunately, the GOP has decided to ask America if they're better off now than they were four years ago, opening the door for Obama to remind everyone just where this mess came from.


This is a really easy ball to hit out of the park. Did the GOP forget what the country was staring at in September of 2008? Hundreds of thousands of jobs lost per month. Stock market was tanking. Banks were going under. Lots of people were discovering that they now had an underwater mortgage. GM and Chrysler were looking like they were going to go down as well. And we had a Republican President that didn't really seem all that concerned about it, and strangely enough, the populace didn't really want him to guide us out of the mess anyway, since we had no faith in him to do so.
 
2012-09-04 04:01:29 PM

mrshowrules: AdolfOliverPanties: Republicans actually believe that Obama is at fault for whatever he hasn't yet fixed from their last farkup, which of course they don't believe they are responsible for either.

For a party that takes no responsibility for the economic meltdown, it is funny how they didn't invite a single speaker from the Bush administration to speak at the RNC other than Condi.


This
Obama and Biden should be pounding them over this.
 
2012-09-04 04:02:35 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Actually it's the public who doesn't blame Republicans enough, making it a doubtful strategy for Obama. Fortunately, the GOP has decided to ask America if they're better off now than they were four years ago, opening the door for Obama to remind everyone just where this mess came from.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-04 04:03:33 PM

Lando Lincoln: And we had a Republican President that didn't really seem all that concerned about it, and strangely enough, the populace didn't really want him to guide us out of the mess anyway, since we had no faith in him to do so.


This was so fascinating to watch. Bush all but disappeared. If not for Paulson and the TARP, we probably would not have seen him at all in the last 6 months.
 
2012-09-04 04:05:49 PM

Lando Lincoln: Did the GOP forget what the country was staring at in September of 2008?


The answer is either "yes they have" or "no they haven't, but they blame Obama anyway hoping it will work" depending on which member of the Republican party you're talking about. Mitt Romney seems to be the former, Paul Ryan seems to be the latter. By their powers combined, they are Captain Alzheimer's, aka Clint Eastwood.
 
2012-09-04 04:09:54 PM

Hobodeluxe: Lionel Mandrake: Mugato: He's not blaming them enough. Not even close. Everyone knows that, especially the republicans who won't admit it.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.  

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close


He's not blaming them enough. Not even close 
 
2012-09-04 04:15:11 PM

Jackson Herring: Hobodeluxe: Lionel Mandrake: Mugato: He's not blaming them enough. Not even close. Everyone knows that, especially the republicans who won't admit it.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.  

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close


He's not blaming them enough. Not even close 
 
2012-09-04 04:20:06 PM

neglogon: mrshowrules: AdolfOliverPanties: Republicans actually believe that Obama is at fault for whatever he hasn't yet fixed from their last farkup, which of course they don't believe they are responsible for either.

For a party that takes no responsibility for the economic meltdown, it is funny how they didn't invite a single speaker from the Bush administration to speak at the RNC other than Condi.

This
Obama and Biden should be pounding them over this.


I wouldn't attack with this. I'd leave as a comeback for the debates when Romney tries to say that Obama is blaming everything on Bush.

R: "Obama is still trying to blame his failures on Bush"

O: "I'd like to leave Bush out of this much like the GOP made every effort to keep Bush out of their last convention but if they are going to keep on pushing the same failed policy ideas, I have no choice to warn people of what got us in this mess. You can try and distance yourself from this administration but I'm here to remind everyone that you have the exact same policy that messed everything up."
 
2012-09-04 04:30:15 PM
He's not flaming them enough. Not even toast.
 
2012-09-04 04:33:00 PM
Obama: "The forest is on fire. We need to put out the fire but since I'm not a dictator, I can't do it alone. Congress, please work together to get this done."

Democratic Congress: "OK, we will load up the fire truck with what we think we need to put out the fire. While we are doing this, the Republican Congress can gas up the truck."

Republican Congress: "Gas? What gas? Where is the gas pump at?"

Democratic Congress: "It is over there... where it has always been. You see the pump near the back of the fire station... that's the gas pump".

Republican Congress: "Oh, we see it now, but we are pretty sure the gas pump will not pump enough gas to fill the truck. We have not replenish it in a while. We need to buy more gas."

Democratic Congress: "Isn't your job to make sure you guys sign the checks to buy gas?"

Republican Congress: "We don't want to waste money on things we don't need. The truck has enough gas to make it to the forest if you drive the truck at 20 mph. We are all about conserving our resources."

Democratic Congress: "Fine, we will drive the truck slower but that's not going to help put the fire faster. Where are the keys? The keys are usually in the ignition."

Republican Congress: "Keys? What keys?"

Democratic Congress: "Forget it. You guys can just stay here while us Democratic members go on our own cars and try to put the fire out using garden hoses."

4 years later...

US Citizens: "Ok, we have noticed that the fire is partially out but why isn't the whole fire out yet?

Republican Congress: "We have the worst President evah. He wanted us to drive to the forest, using our own cars and put out the fire using garden hoses. I don't know why he wanted us to use our own cars when we have a nice shinny fire truck. If you vote him out, we will drive this truck right now and put the fire out"
 
2012-09-04 04:34:31 PM
As a counter without addressing what Obama is or isn't doing, find me something that the Republicans haven't blamed on Obama.
 
2012-09-04 04:38:55 PM

DeltaPunch: Jackson Herring: Hobodeluxe: Lionel Mandrake: Mugato: He's not blaming them enough. Not even close. Everyone knows that, especially the republicans who won't admit it.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.  

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close.

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close

He's not blaming them enough. Not even close 


What they all said.
 
2012-09-04 04:40:06 PM

hugram: Obama: "The forest is on fire. We need to put out the fire but since I'm not a dictator, I can't do it alone. Congress, please work together to get this done."

Democratic Congress: "OK, we will load up the fire truck with what we think we need to put out the fire. While we are doing this, the Republican Congress can gas up the truck."

Republican Congress: "Gas? What gas? Where is the gas pump at?"

Democratic Congress: "It is over there... where it has always been. You see the pump near the back of the fire station... that's the gas pump".

Republican Congress: "Oh, we see it now, but we are pretty sure the gas pump will not pump enough gas to fill the truck. We have not replenish it in a while. We need to buy more gas."

Democratic Congress: "Isn't your job to make sure you guys sign the checks to buy gas?"

Republican Congress: "We don't want to waste money on things we don't need. The truck has enough gas to make it to the forest if you drive the truck at 20 mph. We are all about conserving our resources."

Democratic Congress: "Fine, we will drive the truck slower but that's not going to help put the fire faster. Where are the keys? The keys are usually in the ignition."

Republican Congress: "Keys? What keys?"

Democratic Congress: "Forget it. You guys can just stay here while us Democratic members go on our own cars and try to put the fire out using garden hoses."

4 years later...

US Citizens: "Ok, we have noticed that the fire is partially out but why isn't the whole fire out yet?

Republican Congress: "We have the worst President evah. He wanted us to drive to the forest, using our own cars and put out the fire using garden hoses. I don't know why he wanted us to use our own cars when we have a nice shinny fire truck. If you vote him out, we will drive this truck right now and put the fire out"


That was great. You've been added to the list.
I really hope you're voting this year.
 
2012-09-04 04:47:38 PM

Via Infinito: hugram: Obama: "The forest is on fire. We need to put out the fire but since I'm not a dictator, I can't do it alone. Congress, please work together to get this done."

Democratic Congress: "OK, we will load up the fire truck with what we think we need to put out the fire. While we are doing this, the Republican Congress can gas up the truck."

Republican Congress: "Gas? What gas? Where is the gas pump at?"

Democratic Congress: "It is over there... where it has always been. You see the pump near the back of the fire station... that's the gas pump".

Republican Congress: "Oh, we see it now, but we are pretty sure the gas pump will not pump enough gas to fill the truck. We have not replenish it in a while. We need to buy more gas."

Democratic Congress: "Isn't your job to make sure you guys sign the checks to buy gas?"

Republican Congress: "We don't want to waste money on things we don't need. The truck has enough gas to make it to the forest if you drive the truck at 20 mph. We are all about conserving our resources."

Democratic Congress: "Fine, we will drive the truck slower but that's not going to help put the fire faster. Where are the keys? The keys are usually in the ignition."

Republican Congress: "Keys? What keys?"

Democratic Congress: "Forget it. You guys can just stay here while us Democratic members go on our own cars and try to put the fire out using garden hoses."

4 years later...

US Citizens: "Ok, we have noticed that the fire is partially out but why isn't the whole fire out yet?

Republican Congress: "We have the worst President evah. He wanted us to drive to the forest, using our own cars and put out the fire using garden hoses. I don't know why he wanted us to use our own cars when we have a nice shinny fire truck. If you vote him out, we will drive this truck right now and put the fire out"

That was great. You've been added to the list.
I really hope you're voting this year.


Yes I am... and since NC is a toss up state, I will vote twice.
 
2012-09-04 04:51:39 PM

hugram: Via Infinito: hugram:

That was great. You've been added to the list.
I really hope you're voting this year.

Yes I am... and since NC is a toss up s ...


Oh wow. I laughed. HARD.

I had a daydream today about Georgia going blue in November.
Must have been something in my sandwich.
 
2012-09-04 04:51:42 PM

hugram: Via Infinito: hugram: Obama: "The forest is on fire. We need to put out the fire but since I'm not a dictator, I can't do it alone. Congress, please work together to get this done."

Democratic Congress: "OK, we will load up the fire truck with what we think we need to put out the fire. While we are doing this, the Republican Congress can gas up the truck."

Republican Congress: "Gas? What gas? Where is the gas pump at?"

Democratic Congress: "It is over there... where it has always been. You see the pump near the back of the fire station... that's the gas pump".

Republican Congress: "Oh, we see it now, but we are pretty sure the gas pump will not pump enough gas to fill the truck. We have not replenish it in a while. We need to buy more gas."

Democratic Congress: "Isn't your job to make sure you guys sign the checks to buy gas?"

Republican Congress: "We don't want to waste money on things we don't need. The truck has enough gas to make it to the forest if you drive the truck at 20 mph. We are all about conserving our resources."

Democratic Congress: "Fine, we will drive the truck slower but that's not going to help put the fire faster. Where are the keys? The keys are usually in the ignition."

Republican Congress: "Keys? What keys?"

Democratic Congress: "Forget it. You guys can just stay here while us Democratic members go on our own cars and try to put the fire out using garden hoses."

4 years later...

US Citizens: "Ok, we have noticed that the fire is partially out but why isn't the whole fire out yet?

Republican Congress: "We have the worst President evah. He wanted us to drive to the forest, using our own cars and put out the fire using garden hoses. I don't know why he wanted us to use our own cars when we have a nice shinny fire truck. If you vote him out, we will drive this truck right now and put the fire out"

That was great. You've been added to the list.
I really hope you're voting this year.

Yes I am... and since NC is a toss up state, I will vote twice.


At least you'll be canceling out one of my idiot family member's vote.
 
2012-09-04 04:53:32 PM

Via Infinito: hugram: Via Infinito: hugram:

That was great. You've been added to the list.
I really hope you're voting this year.

Yes I am... and since NC is a toss up s ...

Oh wow. I laughed. HARD.

I had a daydream today about Georgia going blue in November.
Must have been something in my sandwich.


You might want to go see a doctor about that.
 
2012-09-04 04:55:26 PM
hugram      Favorited

That was awesome.
 
2012-09-04 05:01:41 PM

hugram: Obama: "The forest is on fire. We need to put out the fire but since I'm not a dictator, I can't do it alone. Congress, please work together to get this done."

Democratic Congress: "OK, we will load up the fire truck with what we think we need to put out the fire. While we are doing this, the Republican Congress can gas up the truck."

Republican Congress: "Gas? What gas? Where is the gas pump at?"

Democratic Congress: "It is over there... where it has always been. You see the pump near the back of the fire station... that's the gas pump".

Republican Congress: "Oh, we see it now, but we are pretty sure the gas pump will not pump enough gas to fill the truck. We have not replenish it in a while. We need to buy more gas."

Democratic Congress: "Isn't your job to make sure you guys sign the checks to buy gas?"

Republican Congress: "We don't want to waste money on things we don't need. The truck has enough gas to make it to the forest if you drive the truck at 20 mph. We are all about conserving our resources."

Democratic Congress: "Fine, we will drive the truck slower but that's not going to help put the fire faster. Where are the keys? The keys are usually in the ignition."

Republican Congress: "Keys? What keys?"

Democratic Congress: "Forget it. You guys can just stay here while us Democratic members go on our own cars and try to put the fire out using garden hoses."

4 years later...

US Citizens: "Ok, we have noticed that the fire is partially out but why isn't the whole fire out yet?

Republican Congress: "We have the worst President evah. He wanted us to drive to the forest, using our own cars and put out the fire using garden hoses. I don't know why he wanted us to use our own cars when we have a nice shinny fire truck. If you vote him out, we will drive this truck right now and put the fire out"


...and we're hoping you have conveniently forgotten that we set the fire in the first place, and if we get back into power, we'll be setting even more just like it!
 
2012-09-04 05:02:51 PM

GAT_00: As a counter without addressing what Obama is or isn't doing, find me something that the Republicans haven't blamed on Obama.


Everything that they blame Soros for.

SOOOORRRRROOOOOOOSSSS!
 
2012-09-04 05:15:06 PM

IlGreven: ...and we're hoping you have conveniently forgotten that we set the fire in the first place, and if we get back into power, we'll be setting even more just like it!


i159.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-04 06:39:01 PM
I blame them for hoping the country would fail. I don't care if they said it because they don't like the current president.
 
2012-09-04 06:44:50 PM

WorldCitizen: And have Romney and Ryan proposed anything that Republicans didn't propose under the Bush administration? They never mention Bush and his team, but they damn well have surrounded themselves with the same people behind the scenes (and same ideas which they try to not actually speak).


They haven't actually proposed anything, unless you count the Ryan budget. Other than that, it's all vague platitudes based on peoples' hazy memories of the Reagan administration. Historically inaccurate, out of date and disproven, and loaded with hate, fear, greed and a brand of insincere pseudo-Christianity.
 
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