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(The Daily Dolt)   The Democrats and Republicans finally agree on something: the other side is full of Nazis   (thedailydolt.com ) divider line
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2012-09-04 12:21:02 PM  
blog.zap2it.com
Proof that Obama is a Nazi.
 
2012-09-04 12:22:50 PM  
How could you nazi this coming?

/all week
//try the veal
 
2012-09-04 12:28:40 PM  
Well one side has been shown to have more authoritarian leanings through actual research. I'll let you guess which non-democrat party that is.
 
2012-09-04 12:33:13 PM  

Karac: [blog.zap2it.com image 300x300]
Proof that Obama is a Nazi.


Invisible Obama is wearing an SS uniform and giving the Nazi Salute while wearing a Hitler mustache?
 
2012-09-04 12:34:42 PM  
Has our educational system fallen so far?!?! One side is fascists and the other side Nazi! Get it right children.
 
2012-09-04 12:37:51 PM  

MayoSlather: Well one side has been shown to have more authoritarian leanings through actual research. I'll let you guess which non-democrat party that is.


I'm sorry, but that sort of analysis will not help generate ad revenue via page hits.
 
2012-09-04 12:40:46 PM  
FTFA: Burton said the Republicans lie and don't care whether people know they lie and that "[a]s long as you lie, Joseph Goebbels, the big lie, you keep repeating it." Goebbels was the chief of Nazi propaganda for Adolf Hitler, who famously said that the "big lie" had a greater chance of being believed.

Yes, the GOP has put forth some pretty big lies. But there are "Obama got rid of the welfare work requirement" lies, and then there are "Hey, the Jews are terrible, let's go massacre them" lies. Apparently, it needs to be said: these two things are not the same.

So let's go over this one last time, politicians: unless a candidate is literally advocating in favor of the genocide of an entire (post-birth) subset of the population, IT IS NOT COMPARABLE TO THE HOLOCAUST


Nazi lies were not limited to Jews.
They said the Reichstag fire was a Communist plot to take over Germany.
They had a staged attack by Nazi forces posing as Poles against the German radio station to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany.
They accused Polish authorities of organizing or tolerating ethnic cleansing of Germans living in Poland.

To compare the style of two groups' propaganda methods, isn't a comparison of their goals.
 
2012-09-04 12:48:58 PM  

impaler: FTFA: Burton said the Republicans lie and don't care whether people know they lie and that "[a]s long as you lie, Joseph Goebbels, the big lie, you keep repeating it." Goebbels was the chief of Nazi propaganda for Adolf Hitler, who famously said that the "big lie" had a greater chance of being believed.

Yes, the GOP has put forth some pretty big lies. But there are "Obama got rid of the welfare work requirement" lies, and then there are "Hey, the Jews are terrible, let's go massacre them" lies. Apparently, it needs to be said: these two things are not the same.

So let's go over this one last time, politicians: unless a candidate is literally advocating in favor of the genocide of an entire (post-birth) subset of the population, IT IS NOT COMPARABLE TO THE HOLOCAUST

Nazi lies were not limited to Jews.
They said the Reichstag fire was a Communist plot to take over Germany.
They had a staged attack by Nazi forces posing as Poles against the German radio station to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany.
They accused Polish authorities of organizing or tolerating ethnic cleansing of Germans living in Poland.

To compare the style of two groups' propaganda methods, isn't a comparison of their goals.


So...you don't think Burton went a little too far with this? The Nazi comparison was fair game?

The Nazis also spread a lot of lies about Jews, and that is what they are most well-known for. When people talk about the Nazis, they aren't referring to their lie that the Reichstag fire was caused by Communists.
 
2012-09-04 12:49:42 PM  
One side is projecting like hell on the other.
 
2012-09-04 12:52:14 PM  
As a staunch liberal democrat, I wouldn't necessarily say Republicans were Nazis. If my admittedly hazy memory serves, a lot of the resentment toward Jewish folks during the German Nazi era was based on the fact that many of them were successful and at least moderately (or comparatively) wealthy during a time when the rest of Germany was in a severe depression following WWI. OTOH, from what I can see, Republicans in this country worship the wealthy, to the point of wanting to throw the rest of us under the bus so that they can shave a few precious percentage points off their taxes. I suppose I could see some authoritarian leanings in the GOP, though, particularly in regard to social issues.
 
2012-09-04 12:56:41 PM  

LRA61380: The Nazis also spread a lot of lies about Jews, and that is what they are most well-known for. When people talk about the Nazis, they aren't referring to their lie that the Reichstag fire was caused by Communists.


Except for the fact that THAT lie is how the managed to consolidate power, you might have a point. When people refer to big lies in Nazi Propaganda, that is one of the first and obvious ones discussed.

The police conducted a thorough search inside the building and found Marinus van der Lubbe, council communist and unemployed bricklayer, who had recently arrived in Germany, ostensibly to carry out political activities. The fire was used as evidence by the Nazis that the Communists were beginning a plot against the German government. Van der Lubbe and four Communist leaders were subsequently arrested. Adolf Hitler, who was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany four weeks before, on 30 January, urged President Paul von Hindenburg to pass an emergency decree to counter the "ruthless confrontation of the Communist Party of Germany".[2] With civil liberties suspended, the government instituted mass arrests of Communists, including all of the Communist parliamentary delegates. With them gone and their seats empty, the Nazis went from being a plurality party to the majority; subsequent elections confirmed this position and thus allowed Hitler to consolidate his power.

Just because the Nazis proved that you could lie and lie big, and it can easily work, doesn't mean we should ignore what they proved to us just because other big liars aren't trying to commit a holocaust.
 
2012-09-04 12:57:29 PM  
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2012-09-04 02:03:58 PM  
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2012-09-04 02:04:39 PM  
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2012-09-04 02:16:58 PM  
Has anyone brought up that the Nazis were SOCIALISTS????OMGWTF!!
 
2012-09-04 02:17:26 PM  

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WOW
just
WOW
that is real??
do we need ANYMORE proof that republican party is full on morons and should be banned from voting? breeding??
 
2012-09-04 02:23:18 PM  
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
5. Rampant sexism.
6. A controlled mass media.
7. Obsession with national security.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
9. Power of corporations protected.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
14. Fraudulent elections.

Seriously
which party does this list most accurately describe?
 
2012-09-04 02:54:53 PM  
Anyone who thinks either party is like the Nazis is spitting all over the millions of victims of the Nazis.

Or they're just retarded.
 
2012-09-04 03:00:42 PM  
My God....
 
2012-09-04 03:00:43 PM  

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Holy shiat, that is real.

Link
 
2012-09-04 03:01:48 PM  

Sybarite: [0.tqn.com image 500x328]


The 2012 GOP platform is rather fascist though...
 
2012-09-04 03:04:07 PM  
Yeah most Nazi skinheads I know simply adore liberalism. Any excuse to hang out with gays, hispanics, and other minorities.
 
2012-09-04 03:04:15 PM  

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What the fark.
 
2012-09-04 03:04:18 PM  

namatad: 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
5. Rampant sexism.
6. A controlled mass media.
7. Obsession with national security.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
9. Power of corporations protected.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
14. Fraudulent elections.

Seriously
which party does this list most accurately describe?


The Wrong Side.
 
2012-09-04 03:04:44 PM  
The GOP is only a couple steps from outright fascism. They meet all the criteria; the only missing components are the intelligent, ambitious leader and the small crisis blown out of proportion.

Seriously, anyone who thinks the GOP couldn't be led into a massive, full-scale war or encouraged to commit institutional atrocities against ethnic groups or political opponents has not been paying attention. All they need is the political power, and a little push.
 
2012-09-04 03:05:40 PM  
"Nazis" is a bit strong, but given that they've both embraced the Patriot Act and lovely little things like indefinite detention of American citizens at the pleasure of the President, they certainly have enough authoritarians running around.
 
2012-09-04 03:07:19 PM  
Why is Scott Bakula standing beside a young Dick York?
 
2012-09-04 03:07:29 PM  

LRA61380: So...you don't think Burton went a little too far with this? The Nazi comparison was fair game?


Why would you call it a Nazi comparison? If I factually stated that someone was driving a Volkswagen, would you accuse me of calling them a Nazi just because Nazis created the company?

"Big lie" is just a propaganda technique. The fact that the phrase itself was coined by Hitler is largely immaterial. Nazis are not now and have never been the only people to use it and using the technique does not make a person a Nazi.

This entire notion that we can't use certain words and phrases just because Nazis once used them is utterly retarded. The republicans are using a variation of the big lie technique and pointing that fact out is not calling them Nazis, it's just pointing out that they're using a form of propaganda.
 
2012-09-04 03:08:01 PM  

qorkfiend: The GOP is only a couple steps from outright fascism. They meet all the criteria; the only missing components are the intelligent, ambitious leader and the small crisis blown out of proportion.

Seriously, anyone who thinks the GOP couldn't be led into a massive, full-scale war or encouraged to commit institutional atrocities against ethnic groups or political opponents has not been paying attention. All they need is the political power, and a little push.


...so how's the weather been on Mars, since you've been living there since September 10, 2001?

Say hi to Curiosity for me.
 
2012-09-04 03:09:12 PM  

MayoSlather: Well one side has been shown to have more authoritarian leanings through actual research. I'll let you guess which non-democrat party that is.


Like FDR?
 
2012-09-04 03:10:11 PM  

impaler: Why is Scott Bakula standing beside a young Dick York?


Scott Bakula was told he could "Quantum Leap" into the body of Dick York ca. 1970s.

//*Quantum Leap is GOP code for the necessary roughness of "anal sex"
 
2012-09-04 03:13:23 PM  
When Goebbels discussed the Big Lie, he was saying the English do it. So John Burton was actually comparing the GOP to the English.
 
2012-09-04 03:14:20 PM  

siyuntz: As a staunch liberal democrat, I wouldn't necessarily say Republicans were Nazis. If my admittedly hazy memory serves, a lot of the resentment toward Jewish folks during the German Nazi era was based on the fact that many of them were successful and at least moderately (or comparatively) wealthy during a time when the rest of Germany was in a severe depression following WWI. OTOH, from what I can see, Republicans in this country worship the wealthy, to the point of wanting to throw the rest of us under the bus so that they can shave a few precious percentage points off their taxes. I suppose I could see some authoritarian leanings in the GOP, though, particularly in regard to social issues.


What's odd is that on average Democrats are better educated, earn more and have better credit scores than Republicans.
 
2012-09-04 03:18:59 PM  

MayoSlather: Well one side has been shown to have more authoritarian leanings through actual research. I'll let you guess which non-democrat party that is.


Seeing as how the one thing both sides agreed upon all year was the unconstitutional detention of U.S. citizens without due process, and your hero Obama signed it, I dare you. I double-dog dare you.
 
2012-09-04 03:19:24 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: LRA61380: So...you don't think Burton went a little too far with this? The Nazi comparison was fair game?

Why would you call it a Nazi comparison? If I factually stated that someone was driving a Volkswagen, would you accuse me of calling them a Nazi just because Nazis created the company?

"Big lie" is just a propaganda technique. The fact that the phrase itself was coined by Hitler is largely immaterial. Nazis are not now and have never been the only people to use it and using the technique does not make a person a Nazi.

This entire notion that we can't use certain words and phrases just because Nazis once used them is utterly retarded. The republicans are using a variation of the big lie technique and pointing that fact out is not calling them Nazis, it's just pointing out that they're using a form of propaganda.


He specifically mentioned Goebells by name. Are you seriously arguing that he wasn't referencing the Nazis?
 
2012-09-04 03:20:18 PM  

HAMMERTOE: MayoSlather: Well one side has been shown to have more authoritarian leanings through actual research. I'll let you guess which non-democrat party that is.

Seeing as how the one thing both sides agreed upon all year was the unconstitutional detention of U.S. citizens without due process, and your hero Obama signed it, I dare you. I double-dog dare you.


Are you referring to GITMO? The place Obama tried to close but was obstructed by the GOP in congress? That one?
 
2012-09-04 03:22:56 PM  
How to spot a farking teabagger moron or freeper:

1) they say Hitler was a leftist
 
2012-09-04 03:25:31 PM  
Sometimes I wonder if modern elections boil down to who can more effectively cherry-pick traits of the Nazi Party with which to associate the opposition.
 
2012-09-04 03:27:25 PM  

qorkfiend: The GOP is only a couple steps from outright fascism. They meet all the criteria; the only missing components are the intelligent, ambitious leader and the small crisis blown out of proportion.

Seriously, anyone who thinks the GOP couldn't be led into a massive, full-scale war or encouraged to commit institutional atrocities against ethnic groups or political opponents has not been paying attention. All they need is the political power, and a little push.


#1 National Debt & Economy?
#2 Torturing PoWs?
 
2012-09-04 03:29:01 PM  

coeyagi: Are you referring to GITMO? The place Obama tried to close but was obstructed by the GOP in congress? That one?


Nice try, but wrong.
 
2012-09-04 03:30:15 PM  
Spoilers: they're both wrong, but not very wrong.
 
2012-09-04 03:30:26 PM  

HAMMERTOE: MayoSlather: Well one side has been shown to have more authoritarian leanings through actual research. I'll let you guess which non-democrat party that is.

Seeing as how the one thing both sides agreed upon all year was the unconstitutional detention of U.S. citizens without due process, and your hero Obama signed it, I dare you. I double-dog dare you.


One side was against detention of U.S. citizens without due process because it's unconstitutional .
The other side was against the detention of U.S. citizens without due process because Obama signed it.

Both sides are bad.

Also, I'm not sure when the unconstitutional detention of U.S. citizens without due process was signed.
 
2012-09-04 03:31:46 PM  
Republicans wouldn't necessarily be so bad if it weren't for all the Christians.

And supply-side folks.

And bigots.
 
2012-09-04 03:34:43 PM  
If you are at a gathering of conservatives and someone suggested that all of the liberals should be rounded up because of the terrible things they have done to the nation - you will get a lot of head bobbing and disagreement.

If you said something similar about conservatives while surrounded by liberals you would get looks of shock.

The Republicans are mean and ruthless now. Before you say the same is true of both sides - go check out the Freepers - then try to find ANYTHING on the Left that even comes close to that level of Derp. Then recall that their are HUNDREDS of sites just as bad as Free Republic.
 
2012-09-04 03:34:49 PM  
I have no problem calling a horse's ass a horse's ass (one of his other quotes). The leap that people are making is that since Burton called the GOP tactics the same as used by Goebbels, he's calling them Nazis.

Is the inference there? Probably. Is there another historical figure that could have been used to illustrate the GOP's cavalier attitude towards the truth? I don't know. Did it make a big impact? Hopefully.

There's a real simple solution to all of this. If you don't want to be called out as being the lyingest liar who ever lied a political lie, then don't lie.

Of course, without the big lie, the GOP has nothing.

/ How are those tax returns looking, Governor Romney?
// Do you want to talk about your work at Bain Capital, CEO Romney?
/// How about the health care system you put into place Governor Romney?
//// How much of the taxpayers' funds did you send to cronies at the Salt Lake City Olympics?
 
2012-09-04 03:35:07 PM  

HAMMERTOE: coeyagi: Are you referring to GITMO? The place Obama tried to close but was obstructed by the GOP in congress? That one?

Nice try, but wrong.


How can I be wrong? I was asking a question, Rhodes Scholar O' Rhetoric that you are.

Also, yes, both sides were for it, and we're not happy about it. Gonna cause me to vote for Mittens so we can have the same Bush advisers f*cking everything up all over again? No.

Also zero sum, ace - you don't base your vote on the similarities of the candidates or parties, only the differences.
 
2012-09-04 03:35:33 PM  
The GOP's far right extremism is bad for America. Until they take a hard left turn back towards the center we're all screwed. Biatching about semantics, or playing the Independent false equivalency card with regards to that rightist extremism, ain't helping. In point of fact you're part of the problem if you repeat this pablum. Because it ultimately enables bad behaviour by Republicans.
 
2012-09-04 03:35:59 PM  

impaler: Also, I'm not sure when the unconstitutional detention of U.S. citizens without due process was signed.


Link supplied.
 
2012-09-04 03:38:18 PM  

coeyagi: Also zero sum, ace - you don't base your vote on the similarities of the candidates or parties, only the differences.


Actually, I do. Probably why I'm in the minority: one of those who are going to "throw away" their vote, instead of "wisely casting" my vote for one of the two evils those in power would have me choose the "lesser" of.
 
2012-09-04 03:40:19 PM  
I guessing the thread is pre-Godwinned, then.
 
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