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(BBC-US)   Valve Software hiring hardware engineers, in what is a sure sign that they've given up on Episode 3 and are instead making a real, functioning Portal and Gravity Guns. That you can dual wield. Like a boss   (bbc.com) divider line 113
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2012-09-04 12:09:19 PM
I'm thinking Steam console.
 
2012-09-04 12:30:19 PM
My money is on some kind of Steam console.
 
2012-09-04 12:32:43 PM
OH NO, FORGET THE GODDAMN CONSOLE, EPISODE THREE, NOW!
 
2012-09-04 12:38:06 PM
My money is on a handheld.

Console doesn't make sense to me, unless it's simply a small device for cloud gaming.
 
2012-09-04 01:25:56 PM

Rev.K: OH NO, FORGET THE GODDAMN CONSOLE, EPISODE THREE, NOW!


Maybe that will be one of the launch titles?
 
2012-09-04 02:12:06 PM
FTA:

"Even basic input, the keyboard and mouse, haven't really changed in any meaningful way over the years," reads the advert. "There's a real void in the marketplace, and opportunities to create compelling user-experiences are being overlooked."

My prediction:

They're going to completely reinvent the PC user experience by inventing a whole new type of user interface. The first version will only include the left half of the keyboard and the space bar, and will generate raves among people who try it out. The second release, four years later, will include the num pad on the right, the letters 'YUIOP' and a trackball/eye interface and will stun the world. The third version, meant to include the remaining letters of the alphabet, will never be made, released, or mentioned by Valve again.
 
2012-09-04 02:27:09 PM
I would guess they are working on a controller to be purchased for an additional to go with Valve games. Most likely something you don't need to play the game but gets in the way because you are required to use it and doesn't work very well.
 
2012-09-04 02:28:52 PM

toraque: Even basic input, the keyboard and mouse, haven't really changed in any meaningful way over the years


That's because it works well for people with functioning brains who use their computers as multi-purpose devices. I mean.... if you can do better, great, but I'm not going to hold my breath because I've never really felt the keyboard and mouse was a particularly troublesome aspect of PC use.

Get me a wrap-around monitor that gives me a true 3D feel and doesn't require me to wear a 30 pound set of goggles. Fark the input, that part works fine.

/ oh, and go fix Steam, assholes, I'm tired of some games constantly trying to install an outdated version of DirectX every time I launch them
 
2012-09-04 02:30:10 PM

Rev.K: OH NO, FORGET THE GODDAMN CONSOLE, EPISODE THREE, NOW!


You could get the full experience of Episode 3 by stumbling around in your basement in the dark for half an hour, then throwing a washing machine out a window.
 
2012-09-04 02:32:17 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: / oh, and go fix Steam, assholes, I'm tired of some games constantly trying to install an outdated version of DirectX every time I launch them


Yeah, and make it just slightly faster than a tortoise in a molasses field while you're at it, please.
 
2012-09-04 02:32:55 PM

toraque: They're going to completely reinvent the PC user experience by inventing a whole new type of user interface. The first version will only include the left half of the keyboard and the space bar, and will generate raves among people who try it out. The second release, four years later, will include the num pad on the right, the letters 'YUIOP' and a trackball/eye interface and will stun the world. The third version, meant to include the remaining letters of the alphabet, will never be made, released, or mentioned by Valve again.


drh2.img.digitalriver.com

It's been done.
 
2012-09-04 02:38:13 PM

DrSticky: I would guess they are working on a controller to be purchased for an additional to go with Valve games. Most likely something you don't need to play the game but gets in the way because you are required to use it and doesn't work very well.


I think that is unlikely. The Microsoft wired xbox controller basically owns the whole PC controller market for a reason.
 
2012-09-04 02:39:40 PM

RexTalionis: I'm thinking Steam console.


I already have a steam console. I operate it with a mouse and keyboard and play on a 23" display.
 
2012-09-04 02:39:54 PM
Can we get anyone who uses the phrase "Like a Boss" perma-banned?

\Leave 4-Chan to 4-chan
 
2012-09-04 02:41:29 PM
Hey Valve, remember this guy?

www.ladydragon.com

Just give us HL3 and keep cranking out good titles with post-release support and we're happy.
 
2012-09-04 02:43:00 PM

Flappyhead: Hey Valve, remember this guy?

[www.ladydragon.com image 345x153]

Just give us HL3 and keep cranking out good titles with post-release support and we're happy.


No one ever believed the Phantom would ship. Wasn't the name a big enough tip off?
 
2012-09-04 02:51:29 PM

physt: Flappyhead: Hey Valve, remember this guy?

[www.ladydragon.com image 345x153]

Just give us HL3 and keep cranking out good titles with post-release support and we're happy.

No one ever believed the Phantom would ship. Wasn't the name a big enough tip off?


I don't think a Valve console will ship either. Ultimately I think there are just too many problems to overcome and a very pissed off fanbase to deal with.
 
2012-09-04 02:53:23 PM

Egoy3k: The Microsoft wired xbox controller basically owns the whole PC controller market for a reason.


Nah, there are some of us who use our PS3 controllers. But only on games that are ports/need them. Just Cause 2, for example. Awful driving in that game with keyboard/mouse, but with a controller it's tons o' fun!
 
2012-09-04 02:59:24 PM
Serious question. Has there ever been a study figuring out how much Valve single handily helped curb the amount of pirated video games? I've seen countless people over time say that because of Steam they pretty much stopped pirating video games. I'm in the same group.. With the ever predictable Steam sales and ease of purchase I haven't pirated a video game since 2006 when I first joined because the service just progressively got better over time and pretty much always had what I wanted to play.
 
2012-09-04 03:01:49 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Can we get anyone who uses the phrase "Like a Boss" perma-banned?

\Leave 4-Chan to 4-chan



Like a BAWZ!
 
2012-09-04 03:03:18 PM

RexTalionis: I'm thinking Steam console.


I seem to recall hearing something about this on fark within the last couple of months, though a quick google says the denied it in early May.

I did see something about playing games on the TV with a controller, "big picture mode" or some such, but am short on time at the moment to search further.

If they can liscence and maybe update some old games and sell them on the cheap like they do on PC, they could either offer up competition or take up a niche that XBOX / Play Station cannot fill due to their not really offering good prices or system flexibility (IE mods, mmo's, optional control inputs, etc)
 
2012-09-04 03:05:40 PM
I'm thinking a peripheral is more likely than a console.
 
2012-09-04 03:08:50 PM
media.tumblr.com
 
2012-09-04 03:11:08 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Can we get anyone who uses the phrase "Like a Boss" perma-banned?

\Leave 4-Chan to 4-chan


Don't judge me, monkey.

/subby 

th06.deviantart.net
 
2012-09-04 03:12:54 PM
Regarding the console, I'm actually wondering if this relates back to how Valve described Windows 8 as a disaster and was hostile to the Microsoft apps store.

I could see shipping a specific non fragmented version of Linux and hardware as an attempt to move game development to that. Some kind of Valve Linux that is known to work with the following video cards, has all the stuff needed to run games built in, and if you want you can just buy an entire functioning box off Valve (as opposed to building your own). Valve could do some some of the specific hardware work and then just have some whitebox manufacturer actually crank the units out and preload the OS.
 
2012-09-04 03:14:08 PM

Rev.K: OH NO, FORGET THE GODDAMN CONSOLE, EPISODE THREE, NOW!


Companies can do more than one thing at a time...
 
2012-09-04 03:14:51 PM
I got... I think they're finally getting around to figuring out how to really mount a faucet on the back of someone's head or in their eyeball!

images.bit-tech.net
 
2012-09-04 03:17:33 PM
FTH: "Portal and Gravity Gun..."

images3.wikia.nocookie.net

Does not like where this is headed.
 
2012-09-04 03:18:08 PM

soopey: I got... I think they're finally getting around to figuring out how to really mount a faucet on the back of someone's head or in their eyeball!

[images.bit-tech.net image 361x203]


That or how to remove that from the guy's face.
 
2012-09-04 03:22:44 PM

styckx: Serious question. Has there ever been a study figuring out how much Valve single handily helped curb the amount of pirated video games? I've seen countless people over time say that because of Steam they pretty much stopped pirating video games. I'm in the same group.. With the ever predictable Steam sales and ease of purchase I haven't pirated a video game since 2006 when I first joined because the service just progressively got better over time and pretty much always had what I wanted to play.


Steam has increased piracy, if anything. Their model is nice in theory, but in practice, it keeps legitimate users from being able to access their product. Why on earth do I need to have an internet connection to play a single player game?
 
2012-09-04 03:23:05 PM
I think it's more likely that, rather than redesign/reinvent the PC, Valve will probably want to ensure the copyright-free industry standard architecture we know and love and mod to hell continues as is, Microsoft and Apple are moving toward a service industry and are embracing cloud computing, very soon their hardware will dovetail perfectly and run nothing else, whereas Valve are committed to the hardcore gamer market, with its bottomless pit of money ready to spend another $500 on new kit to gain an extra few FPS, to run the next instalment of an endless series of Quake-a-likes they bring out.
 
2012-09-04 03:24:23 PM

stonicus: Steam has increased piracy, if anything.


A) There is an offline mode.
B) So you're saying if there was no Steam, you would pirate games LESS?
C) You're probably trolling me. Nice job.
 
2012-09-04 03:27:26 PM
Im NOT defending piracy but steams offline mode can be a craven pain in the ass and I can understand any complaints directed against it.
 
2012-09-04 03:31:11 PM
Oculus rift is coming
 
2012-09-04 03:31:22 PM

stonicus: styckx: Serious question. Has there ever been a study figuring out how much Valve single handily helped curb the amount of pirated video games? I've seen countless people over time say that because of Steam they pretty much stopped pirating video games. I'm in the same group.. With the ever predictable Steam sales and ease of purchase I haven't pirated a video game since 2006 when I first joined because the service just progressively got better over time and pretty much always had what I wanted to play.

Steam has increased piracy, if anything. Their model is nice in theory, but in practice, it keeps legitimate users from being able to access their product. Why on earth do I need to have an internet connection to play a single player game?


You don't; just to purchase it.

I know a LOT of guys who drop hundreds each steam sale, buying legal versions of older games. Christ, I had guys on friends list buying Echo the Dolphin because it was on sale. And then I bought a copy for every other person on my friends list that didn't already have it.

image.blingee.com
 
2012-09-04 03:32:57 PM

Grither: stonicus: Steam has increased piracy, if anything.

A) There is an offline mode.
B) So you're saying if there was no Steam, you would pirate games LESS?
C) You're probably trolling me. Nice job.


Yeah, see here's how it is. Because you can buy games online AND offline and since he doesn't like the online way, he pirates more and is factually wrong about it.
 
2012-09-04 03:33:30 PM
Of course it is a console, they have already explained their vision of the box. It will be amazing. Basically, it is a PS3, XBOX, PC, Netflix, Hulu, Emulator, toaster oven all rolled into one. I am curious how they are going to be able to do it legally though. It makes the decision to get the other platforms basically worthless unless of course it is an EA title...which is very lame.

/hate EA
 
2012-09-04 03:34:55 PM

soopey: I got... I think they're finally getting around to figuring out how to really mount a faucet on the back of someone's head or in their eyeball!

[images.bit-tech.net image 361x203]


Always wondered if the awesomeness was supposed to come out of the nose, the mouth, or a combination of orifices..
 
2012-09-04 03:36:18 PM

styckx: Serious question. Has there ever been a study figuring out how much Valve single handily helped curb the amount of pirated video games? I've seen countless people over time say that because of Steam they pretty much stopped pirating video games. I'm in the same group.. With the ever predictable Steam sales and ease of purchase I haven't pirated a video game since 2006 when I first joined because the service just progressively got better over time and pretty much always had what I wanted to play.


according to industry professionals, Valve has helped curbed eleventy billion in profits. That number was pulled out of my arse, much like the RIAA does for all their own numbers.

I agree though, me and my little brother don't pirate anymore because:
1) Free mods which are entertaining and available because of steam and valve
2) If i lose my hard copy, I don't have to pirate it back.
 
2012-09-04 03:37:56 PM

thecpt: I agree though, me and my little brother don't pirate anymore because:
1) Free mods which are entertaining and available because of steam and valve
2) If i lose my hard copy, I don't have to pirate it back.


I'd add 3) I'm not 15 years old anymore nor am I a broke-ass college student.
 
2012-09-04 03:38:21 PM
Time to keep some fingers crossed for HL3...
 
2012-09-04 03:38:36 PM

Endrick: Oculus rift is coming


Spread out for the whelps and then hurry up and stack up.
 
2012-09-04 03:41:08 PM

stonicus: Steam has increased piracy, if anything. Their model is nice in theory, but in practice, it keeps legitimate users from being able to access their product. Why on earth do I need to have an internet connection to play a single player game?


Steam has an offline mode.

The problem with steam is that too many games have their own DRM in addition to Steam's relatively user-friendly and mostly-inobtrusive DRM. I'm looking at you, Ubisoft, and any other games that use *@#&# Microsoft Live.
 
2012-09-04 03:42:52 PM

Honest Bender: Companies can do more than one thing at a time...


And I'd agree, if we hadn't already been waiting 5 years.
 
2012-09-04 03:44:30 PM

Grither: thecpt: I agree though, me and my little brother don't pirate anymore because:
1) Free mods which are entertaining and available because of steam and valve
2) If i lose my hard copy, I don't have to pirate it back.

I'd add 3) I'm not 15 years old anymore nor am I a broke-ass college student.


No matter how broke you claim to be, if you can pay for electricity, indoor plumbing, tv, internet, and a cell phone, you can afford to spend $2.50 or even $5 on (insert game here), and that's why steam wins.
 
2012-09-04 03:44:49 PM

Grither: I'd add 3) I'm not 15 years old anymore nor am I a broke-ass college student.


While this helps, steam cannot be attributed to you not being 15 years old anymore. Getting out of college makes the child in me happy every time I pass through a gamestop.
 
2012-09-04 03:46:43 PM

thecpt: While this helps, steam cannot be attributed to you not being 15 years old anymore. Getting out of college makes the child in me happy every time I pass through a gamestop.


Do you mean pass by? Cause I avoid that place like the plague....
 
2012-09-04 03:49:46 PM

Grither: stonicus: Steam has increased piracy, if anything.

A) There is an offline mode.
B) So you're saying if there was no Steam, you would pirate games LESS?
C) You're probably trolling me. Nice job.


I have bought every game i own since steam... and I almost exclusively buy games on steam.. the once exception is SC2 and I cant even be bothered to update it and play anymore... because its not on steam.

Steam is SO dead easy, non intrusive, has great games, and all my friends are already on it.

Also- Is not owned by EA (screw EA)
 
2012-09-04 03:53:00 PM

Grither: Do you mean pass by? Cause I avoid that place like the plague....


Its still the only place to physically walk through and find quality video games for me. As long as the cashier is a guy, its usually a fun place to strike up a conversation about video games. Just don't go there during after school hours because kids are annoying. I have a few horror stories about girl cashiers, and I'm against the stupid policies of GS but overall I get excited perusing the titles available.
 
2012-09-04 03:58:24 PM

AntonChigger: Grither: thecpt: I agree though, me and my little brother don't pirate anymore because:
1) Free mods which are entertaining and available because of steam and valve
2) If i lose my hard copy, I don't have to pirate it back.

I'd add 3) I'm not 15 years old anymore nor am I a broke-ass college student.

No matter how broke you claim to be, if you can pay for electricity, indoor plumbing, tv, internet, and a cell phone, you can afford to spend $2.50 or even $5 on (insert game here), and that's why steam wins.


I'm a guy who's just starting out on his real 'adult' job. I decided that with that i would leave piracy in the past and embrace legitimacy. Steam has been a great asset to this, espcially those steam sales i'm still working towards. I always look for the best game deals / packages to maximize my buck. Like Edmund McMillen's Basement collection for example. I'm a huge Team Meat fan so this was a treat for me at .$50 a game for the whole deal.

I can't justify paying full price on itunes for an audiobook (fark you GRRM $60 for 1 book), but i can justify most game purchases that cost less than a fast food meal.
 
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