Looking forward to the day when the slideshow is a departed feature

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The search companion always sucked ass.

Autorun did die after vista came out but they patched XP to kill it also.

You still pretty much have a quick-launch.

And I don't get the hosts file thing. If win8 still has it then it's not gone. And I thought WinDefender still "watched" the hosts file in Win7?

I am very glad that WinFS never saw the light of day.

I am still very much of the opinion that a straight file system shouldn't do anything except store files, and
that if you need to keep track of metadata, it is best to embed it in the individual files and let the
application sort it out.

I can't edit my hosts file Win 8? Really?

I can see that pissing some people off.

Apparently you can edit the hosts file except for some magical domains such as facebook.com.

Most of these aren't so much features that were killed, as they are features that were renamed and given a minor facelift or had their location changed.

Came for Bob. Left for the next room, satisfied.

Egoy3k: All the windows games have had facelifts in windows 7 (possibly vista as well since I never had vista long enought o get bored and play windows games).

And they all suck. Sweet mother of Abraham Lincoln. When I upgraded my wife's computer to Windows 7 she made me put the XP version of Freecell on because the tarted up Win7 version pissed her off to no end.

DjangoStonereaver: I am still very much of the opinion that a straight file system shouldn't do anything except store files, and
that if you need to keep track of metadata, it is best to embed it in the individual files and let the
application sort it out.

Except for all the metadata that filesystems actually track- permissions, whether its executable, read-only, hidden, the data type, etc. A filesystem should provide mechanisms for files to be self-describing, so that things like unified search and item preview are possible.

Also, folders should go away, but that's a completely different debate.

What the fark!? A slideshow that plays ads to interrupt the slideshow?! God dammit so much. fark you.

t3knomanser: DjangoStonereaver: I am still very much of the opinion that a straight file system shouldn't do anything except store files, and
that if you need to keep track of metadata, it is best to embed it in the individual files and let the
application sort it out.

Except for all the metadata that filesystems actually track- permissions, whether its executable, read-only, hidden, the data type, etc. A filesystem should provide mechanisms for files to be self-describing, so that things like unified search and item preview are possible.

I don't think of access permissions and the like as metadata, though of course they are.

I guess I'm betraying my Unix roots: I don't think the file system should impose anything but the
minimum required overhead for the OS to effectively keep track of files. It strikes me that if you
include file-specific metadata tracking structures in the file system itself its an additional level of
complexity that has too much of a chance for corruption, and even with modern terabyte-size disks
that you'll lose too much potential storage space in making room for overhead that, realistically, most
people won't bother using.

Also, folders should go away, but that's a completely different debate.

Now that's just crazy talk....... ;-P

When I first saw the Metro interface, I hated it. I, like many other Farkers, badmouthed it without ever even giving it a try.
So I downloaded the beta release last week so I could get an actual 'hands-on' experience.
I hate it.
It's like MS wanted to make an OS for people that have never used a computer before. In that respect, it's not horrible. Not entirely intuitive, but workable.
The problem is, most people have used a computer before, and the computers they have used have been Windows machines. So now we are expected to used 'dumbed down' computers.
MS may also be going for the blended OS between tablets and desktops. The problem there is desktops are not tablets, and the human interface for a tablet is a finger. That does not work well for a real computer where you have to do actual work, and don't want to mess with pretty tiles to get to your program of choice.

MindStalker: 7's search sucks ass and doesn't always find the files you are looking for.



These aren't the files you are looking for

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: When I first saw the Metro interface, I hated it. I, like many other Farkers, badmouthed it without ever even giving it a try.
So I downloaded the beta release last week so I could get an actual 'hands-on' experience.
I hate it.
It's like MS wanted to make an OS for people that have never used a computer before. In that respect, it's not horrible. Not entirely intuitive, but workable.
The problem is, most people have used a computer before, and the computers they have used have been Windows machines. So now we are expected to used 'dumbed down' computers.
MS may also be going for the blended OS between tablets and desktops. The problem there is desktops are not tablets, and the human interface for a tablet is a finger. That does not work well for a real computer where you have to do actual work, and don't want to mess with pretty tiles to get to your program of choice.

Just you wait for "Kinect for PC".

hawcian: Alright, I'll bite. What's wrong with folders?

They should really be called "directories," like in the old days.

hawcian: Alright, I'll bite. What's wrong with folders?

Well, let's start with what's right with folders:
1) They're easy to implement
2) They're extremely fast, in low level performance terms
3) They are a simple way to give everything on the filesystem a unique name
4) They're also pretty good on memory and disk space, too

I'm not saying they're all bad, but here's the problem: deeply nested trees are a nightmare for the users. Do you know why so many users just drop shiat on their desktop? Because they don't understand the filesystem. They don't want to understand the filesystem. Beyond three levels of nesting, average people start getting confused.

Folders are a UI nightmare. I think 90% of the iPhone's popularity arises from the fact that it completely conceals the filesystem from the end user. I don't have the low-level chops, the time, or the inclination to implement a set-oriented filesystem, but I think that a set-based, instead of tree-based filesystem would be vastly superior from a usability standpoint.

#15 www.windows-server-launch.com: Born September 4th, 2012, it was the snazzy new website that was promoted for weeks. It was meant to launch and teach you all about the brand-new Windows Server 2012. It crashed less than two hours later. They tried to force users into dependence on Akamai technologies for MSDN downloads. However, their website clearly did not use such wonderful technologies. Let's hope for Microsoft's sake that it ran on a Linux server.

t3knomanser: Do you know why so many users just drop shiat on their desktop? Because they don't understand the filesystem. They don't want to understand the filesystem. Beyond three levels of nesting, average people start getting confused.

That's sad. I mean it's horse-in-quicksand "Neverending Story" sad. It's "Jurassic Bark" sad.

gingerjet: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MS may also be going for the blended OS between tablets and desktops. The problem there is desktops are not tablets, and the human interface for a tablet is a finger. That does not work well for a real computer where you have to do actual work, and don't want to mess with pretty tiles to get to your program of choice.

I was with you until you went off on the "real work" rant. People get real work done on tablets, phones, laptops, and desktops. I spend 50% of my time on a tablet and split the rest between a laptop and desktop. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.

/will finally be ditching the desktop soon

I stand corrected. You can do real work on a tablet.
There are more complex processes that require a more powerful machine, with a more complete interface.
I also use a tablet a lot, but is is more of an extension to my actual computer, and also more for consumption of material, then creation of material.

GreenAdder: That's sad. I mean it's horse-in-quicksand "Neverending Story" sad. It's "Jurassic Bark" sad.

Mournful tits. Like two suicide notes stuffed in a glitter bra.

gingerjet: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MS may also be going for the blended OS between tablets and desktops. The problem there is desktops are not tablets, and the human interface for a tablet is a finger. That does not work well for a real computer where you have to do actual work, and don't want to mess with pretty tiles to get to your program of choice.

I was with you until you went off on the "real work" rant. People get real work done on tablets, phones, laptops, and desktops. I spend 50% of my time on a tablet and split the rest between a laptop and desktop. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.

/will finally be ditching the desktop soon

Do you create excel spreadsheets on your tablets? I'd like to use GDocs or even OO.o for creating documents but both stink. I haven't found a good Office substitute on the tablet. I just wind up using whatever text editor is there.

1) DriveSpace - built in compressed partition - whatever. who needs this in the first place? drives are big
2) windows explorer - renamed to file explorer - so not really removed then?? tards
3) microsoft network - WHAT???
4) active desktop - things that were updated on your desktop - like widgets and gadgets - so renamed-sortof? LOL
5) windows desktop search -
6) autoplay / autorun - wait!!! I cant turn this on if I want it ???
7) quick launch toolbar -
8) winfs - so something which was never released, wasn't released
9) aero - what??
10) gadgets - are dead. long live widgets or applet or whatever the name is today
11) start menu - noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo they cant kill the start menu - nothing will work !!!
12) solitaire - hyped windows feature? really? sigh
13) hosts file - hyped windows feature? really?

now you dont have to click on the stupid slideshow

Gunny Walker: gingerjet: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MS may also be going for the blended OS between tablets and desktops. The problem there is desktops are not tablets, and the human interface for a tablet is a finger. That does not work well for a real computer where you have to do actual work, and don't want to mess with pretty tiles to get to your program of choice.

I was with you until you went off on the "real work" rant. People get real work done on tablets, phones, laptops, and desktops. I spend 50% of my time on a tablet and split the rest between a laptop and desktop. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.

/will finally be ditching the desktop soon

Do you create excel spreadsheets on your tablets? I'd like to use GDocs or even OO.o for creating documents but both stink. I haven't found a good Office substitute on the tablet. I just wind up using whatever text editor is there.

Oh god no. I can't imagine trying to do that on a tablet. Maybe with a keyboard attachment, but then it would be just as convenient to use a notebook computer with full Excel.
I'm sure I'll get chastised for saying that.