Listen to:
Come together
Maxwells silver hammer
help!

big_hed: Ringo is actually left handed and playing a right handed drum kit.

Paul is actually right handed but plays guitar left handed.

Ringo had a secretary named McCartney and Paul had a secretary named Starr.

Anybody that could listen to Rain or damn near everything on Abbey Road and conclude that Ringo's a terrible drummer has no ears. Not every drummer needs to be Neil Peart. I wish more would stop trying to be.

The Beatles and Rush suck. Drumming is overrated listen to The White Stripes.

LabGrrl: 1. I hate how people diss Ringo.
2. Percussion is not the easiest thing in the world.
3. Least favorite Beatle is like least expensive high grade diamond.
4. Geeky early footage of any awesome hall of famer is awesome.
1. I only started this list because I wanted to count to four twice.
2. That was where I was going with it.
3. I've only had a half a cup of coffee.
4. Sorry it wasn't more cleverer.

Playing drums is a talent. Ringo has.

/Ahh, lists. I make those and promptly ignore them.

Gimmie William Rieflin - KMFDM (and... REM)... best drummer EVER.

My 2 cents:

The Beatles suck.
Ringo is/was a fine drummer.
George was a great guitar player.
That was an amusing headline.

Perducci: big_hed: Ringo is actually left handed and playing a right handed drum kit.

Paul is actually right handed but plays guitar left handed.

Ringo had a secretary named McCartney and Paul had a secretary named Starr.

big_hed: Ringo is actually left handed and playing a right handed drum kit.

Paul is actually right handed but plays guitar left handed.

Rick is actually right handed

Andrew Wiggin: OldManDownDRoad: Neil Peart

i read he was a prick. but i read it on fark, so...

No, he's just a private man who has a phobia about people walking up to him. I could see why someone would get that confused though.

the_chief: Worst Drummer Ever.

The Chief's ears must still be developing.

It takes three drummers to screw in a lightbulb.

What do you call a person who likes to hang around musicians?


/obligatory

Mike Finkelstein -- "If you have ever been in a band where you had to recreate Beatle songs, you would have realized that Ringo Starr was no slouch. Those drum parts were very tricky and subtle. He did have a special ability to create interesting rhythmic structures within the music. This gave the Beatles a unique sound without loosing that distinctive drive in rock and roll. ... Ringo moved smoothly from verse to chorus without loosing the groove by subtly changing a texture in the rhythm. Ringo is an important drummer to study well." (Teach Yourself Rock Drumming, 1979)
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That god damn Finkelstein shiat kid! Son of a biatch!

Was this the name of the album?

PYROY: It takes three drummers to screw in a lightbulb.

how did they get in there?

LewDux: big_hed: Ringo is actually left handed and playing a right handed drum kit.

Paul is actually right handed but plays guitar left handed.

Rick is actually right handed

Not any more he isn't.

Lost in all the "debate" about Ringo's drumming talents is the fact that I chortled at the headline. Good one!

zappaisfrank: pizza

what's the difference between a large pizza and a drummer?

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a large pizza can feed a family of four

You music snobs. I can't tell one competent drummer from another, can't hear any difference in quality between one and another. Aside from those who can do amazing solos, what freaking difference does it make? As long as they're not off-tempo, who can hear the difference?

B.L.Z. Bub: You music snobs. I can't tell one competent drummer from another, can't hear any difference in quality between one and another. Aside from those who can do amazing solos, what freaking difference does it make? As long as they're not off-tempo, who can hear the difference?

...said nobody, ever.

Farkomatic: B.L.Z. Bub: You music snobs. I can't tell one competent drummer from another, can't hear any difference in quality between one and another. Aside from those who can do amazing solos, what freaking difference does it make? As long as they're not off-tempo, who can hear the difference?

...said nobody, ever.

What are you talking about? I said that. ME. One person in the world said that, and that person was ME.

bubbaprog: barkingfarking: Listen to:
Come together
Maxwells silver hammer
help!

She Loves You features a drum syncopation pattern nobody had ever heard before in Western music. It amazes me people who claim to be drum experts think Ringo was not a good drummer.

As a musician, I've never heard a good drummer say anything but good things about Ringo. Any person I've heard who bashes Ringo is usually not a musician, or is a poor one.

Balchinian: My 2 cents:

The Beatles suck.
Ringo is/was a fine drummer.
George was a great guitar player.
That was an amusing headline.

Wh-Wait - What? Just trying to follow the line of reasoning, here.

A) The Beatles suck...and therefore;

B) Um, well - there cannot be a "B."

I'm not a big Beatles fan, but I like it when stuff like this gets discovered. It would be nice if every movie and TV show ever filmed and every song ever recorded had been properly stored for posterity.

zappaisfrank: How do you get a drummer off of your porch?

Pay him for the pizza.

Oldie... but goodie. Truth is always funny. :)

George was a great guitar player

not as good as Maca

He died in 1972 aged just 34.

More precisely, he died like Brian Epstein, of an accidental overdose of sleeping pills.

And it gets worse: "Although it could not be proven, it is thought that his mother had committed suicide after finding Storm's body."

A drummer visits a local musical instruments shop. "I'm tired of the band giving me crap because they think I can't play a real musical instrument. I'm going to show them. I want to buy that tuba and the accordion over there!"

The proprietor thinks for a second and says, "Well...I can sell you the fire extinguisher,but the radiator comes with the building."

All you idiots need to know is that John, Paul and George could have replaced him at any time with anyone, and did not. End of discussion.

Granny Stab: All you idiots need to know is that John, Paul and George could have replaced him at any time with anyone, and did not. End of discussion.

No further discussion required. What's to argue about this? They were the farkin' Beatles. That is all.

/Now on the other hand, Spinal Tap? Great band; rather poor luck with drummers, IIRC

I don't understand the hate for Ringo. He may have stuck to fairly simple beats for the most part, but why is that bad? If he had been more like Travis Barker or something, then it wouldn't have fit the Beatles' music. He kept solid time, was consistent, and came up with drum parts that added to the song. What more do you want from a drummer?

I used to think his drumming was boring, but then I started playing his stuff, and I can't find a better way to do what he did. It actually makes the song better, and that's the mark of a good drummer. Not how many fills and rolls and solos they can cram into a song, but whether the stuff they do play adds to the music overall.

/yes, I do hit things with sticks
//Ringo's a cool guy
///Nicko McBrain's awesome, too
////I have some of his drumsticks

Barnstormer: The drummers from the Dead have over 50 mil between them? Very surprised. Great rhythm section and all, but they didn't sell all that many albums and their tours weren't in the modern triple digit ticket price era.

The Dead were always smart with their money. Yes, they didn't sell a lot of albums, but they toured like maniacs and were smart in structuring their businesses. Since the 70s, they've made enough income that the band has its own law firm in SF. Not their own lawyer, their own firm, which handles nothing but Dead-related business and investments.

/Just because you're a hippie doesn't mean you have to be bad with money

Peace and love..peace..And...Love..

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: George was a great guitar player

not as good as Maca

No, George was pretty damn good, and had gotten a lot better by the end of the Beatles.

John was the weak link as a guitarist, but he could play rhythm. Listen to his solo albums and you can hear his heavy-fingered style.

John played all of the guitar on "I want you / she's so heavy"

From the Rory Storm Wikipedia page:

When Starr was asked why he did not attend [Storm's funeral in 1972) , he said, "I wasn't there when he was born either".

Hahaha.

B.L.Z. Bub: You music snobs. I can't tell one competent drummer from another, can't hear any difference in quality between one and another. Aside from those who can do amazing solos, what freaking difference does it make? As long as they're not off-tempo, who can hear the difference?

I can and so can a lot of other "snobs". Listen to The Who in 1970 and The Who in 1980 and if you can't tell there's a different drumming style between the two eras and that that different style affects the music, that's not music snobbery, it's having a pair of ears that work.

Philbigtime: She Loves You features a drum syncopation pattern nobody had ever heard before in Western music. It amazes me people who claim to be drum experts think Ringo was not a good drummer.

As a musician, I've never heard a good drummer say anything but good things about Ringo. Any person I've heard who bashes Ringo is usually not a musician, or is a poor one.

Well, as a musician (and a drummer), what I've observed is that people confuse complex with good and simple with bad.

Ringo is generally a "simple" player, as he usually sticks to standard 4/4 rock beats, but what makes him a great drummer is he plays to the song and gives it what it deserves. He never overplays or gets in the way of the other instrumentation. And occasionally, he trots out something that's subtle - can't remember the title of the song (since I'm not a Beatles fan) but he was creating a lagging feel for the track by playing the snare slightly and consistently behind the beat. This is something that most people wouldn't recognize nor appreciate, but being a drummer myself, I was surprised. On the surface, he's not much of a drummer, but if you look a bit closer, he's actually a lot more talented than people give him credit for. His playing might be simple, but it is both appropriate and subtly creative. That holds a lot more value to me as a musician whose claim to fame is 32nd note triplet double bass hits at 180BPM. ;-)

Then there are other drummers, like Dave Mackintosh, who overplay, and anyone who has heard a Dragonforce track knows what I'm talking about (i.e. "Empty space? Needs double bass!!!").

texmeth: The Beatles and Rush suck. Drumming is overrated listen to The White Stripes.

Now that is epic LOLZ. Well played! ;-)

neilbradley: Philbigtime: She Loves You features a drum syncopation pattern nobody had ever heard before in Western music. It amazes me people who claim to be drum experts think Ringo was not a good drummer.

As a musician, I've never heard a good drummer say anything but good things about Ringo. Any person I've heard who bashes Ringo is usually not a musician, or is a poor one.

Well, as a musician (and a drummer), what I've observed is that people confuse complex with good and simple with bad.

Ringo is generally a "simple" player, as he usually sticks to standard 4/4 rock beats, but what makes him a great drummer is he plays to the song and gives it what it deserves. He never overplays or gets in the way of the other instrumentation. And occasionally, he trots out something that's subtle - can't remember the title of the song (since I'm not a Beatles fan) but he was creating a lagging feel for the track by playing the snare slightly and consistently behind the beat. This is something that most people wouldn't recognize nor appreciate, but being a drummer myself, I was surprised. On the surface, he's not much of a drummer, but if you look a bit closer, he's actually a lot more talented than people give him credit for. His playing might be simple, but it is both appropriate and subtly creative. That holds a lot more value to me as a musician whose claim to fame is 32nd note triplet double bass hits at 180BPM. ;-)

Then there are other drummers, like Dave Mackintosh, who overplay, and anyone who has heard a Dragonforce track knows what I'm talking about (i.e. "Empty space? Needs double bass!!!").

is dragonforce a "real" band or are they a spoof? i feel like they are a spoof, and the over-the-top playing is just a charicature.

i could be completely wrong, though, as i really know very little about dragonforce

SoupJohnB: Balchinian: My 2 cents:

The Beatles suck.
Ringo is/was a fine drummer.
George was a great guitar player.
That was an amusing headline.

Wh-Wait - What? Just trying to follow the line of reasoning, here.

A) The Beatles suck...and therefore;

B) Um, well - there cannot be a "B."

It isn't a line of reasoning. They are all independent points.

Dwight_Yeast: E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: George was a great guitar player

not as good as Maca

No, George was pretty damn good, and had gotten a lot better by the end of the Beatles.

John was the weak link as a guitarist, but he could play rhythm. Listen to his solo albums and you can hear his heavy-fingered style.

Lennon plays lead guitar on 'Get Back'
/Interestingly enough on one of George's best 'Beatle' songs 'Taxman', McCartney play lead guitar.

neilbradley: Philbigtime: She Loves You features a drum syncopation pattern nobody had ever heard before in Western music. It amazes me people who claim to be drum experts think Ringo was not a good drummer.

As a musician, I've never heard a good drummer say anything but good things about Ringo. Any person I've heard who bashes Ringo is usually not a musician, or is a poor one.

Well, as a musician (and a drummer), what I've observed is that people confuse complex with good and simple with bad.

Ringo is generally a "simple" player, as he usually sticks to standard 4/4 rock beats, but what makes him a great drummer is he plays to the song and gives it what it deserves. He never overplays or gets in the way of the other instrumentation. And occasionally, he trots out something that's subtle - can't remember the title of the song (since I'm not a Beatles fan) but he was creating a lagging feel for the track by playing the snare slightly and consistently behind the beat. This is something that most people wouldn't recognize nor appreciate, but being a drummer myself, I was surprised. On the surface, he's not much of a drummer, but if you look a bit closer, he's actually a lot more talented than people give him credit for. His playing might be simple, but it is both appropriate and subtly creative. That holds a lot more value to me as a musician whose claim to fame is 32nd note triplet double bass hits at 180BPM. ;-)

Then there are other drummers, like Dave Mackintosh, who overplay, and anyone who has heard a Dragonforce track knows what I'm talking about (i.e. "Empty space? Needs double bass!!!").

Really? And where do you store your drumsticks?

ITT: people that think they know what makes a good drummer