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2012-09-04 09:07:00 AM  
With blue Stars of David, red goy babies and green pickles!
 
2012-09-04 09:10:04 AM  
Creationists will ignore this is 3...2...1...
 
2012-09-04 09:20:09 AM  
"Presumably, the figurines served as good-luck statues for ensuring the success of the hunt and might have been the focus of a traditional ceremony the hunters performed before going out into the field to pursue their prey."

Sigh.
 
2012-09-04 09:21:04 AM  

Girion47: Creationists will ignore this is 3...2...1...


I looked this up in my text book and I'm not even seeing 7000BCE

wonkette.com
 
2012-09-04 09:35:56 AM  

stevetherobot: "Presumably, the figurines served as good-luck statues for ensuring the success of the hunt and might have been the focus of a traditional ceremony the hunters performed before going out into the field to pursue their prey."

Sigh.


What's wrong with that?
 
2012-09-04 09:36:47 AM  
Weird pic to use. Looks like the output of a scanning electron microscope.
 
2012-09-04 09:38:13 AM  
That's impossible. God created the world 6000 years ago.
 
2012-09-04 09:40:41 AM  

indylaw: That's impossible. God created the world 6000 years ago.


It's not impossible. I used to bomb womprats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than 2 meters.
 
2012-09-04 09:44:20 AM  

Insatiable Jesus: With blue Stars of David, red goy babies and green pickles!


Nonsense!! nine THOUSAND years ago? It surely looked like this...

fc06.deviantart.net
 
2012-09-04 09:44:32 AM  
Over 9000! you say?
 
2012-09-04 09:52:07 AM  
Has anyone alerted Dan Brown?
 
2012-09-04 10:12:47 AM  

Hoboclown: stevetherobot: "Presumably, the figurines served as good-luck statues for ensuring the success of the hunt and might have been the focus of a traditional ceremony the hunters performed before going out into the field to pursue their prey."

Sigh.

What's wrong with that?


Presumably? Might have been? They are just guessing and presenting it as fact.
 
2012-09-04 10:17:44 AM  
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-04 10:18:33 AM  
Planted by Satan. Next.
 
2012-09-04 10:23:08 AM  

Rich Cream: Planted by Satan. Next.


So it was tested for fingerprints or something?
 
2012-09-04 10:34:39 AM  

wippit: Rich Cream: Planted by Satan. Next.

So it was tested for fingerprints or something?



Deductive reasoning. Who else existed at that time? God?

/ok maybe it was Him and it's part of His Divine Plan. Glory to the highest.
 
2012-09-04 10:39:10 AM  
msnbcmedia.msn.com

it "seems to depict a large animal with prominent horns that separate the elongated body from the head. The horns emerge from the middle of the head sideward and resemble those of a wild bovine or buffalo."



And you guys make fun of religious people when they see Jesus in toast?
 
2012-09-04 10:50:08 AM  

stevetherobot: Hoboclown: stevetherobot: "Presumably, the figurines served as good-luck statues for ensuring the success of the hunt and might have been the focus of a traditional ceremony the hunters performed before going out into the field to pursue their prey."

Sigh.

What's wrong with that?

Presumably? Might have been? They are just guessing and presenting it as fact.


They're not presenting it as fact, they're saying "presumably" and "might have been".
 
2012-09-04 10:54:26 AM  

Hoboclown: stevetherobot: Hoboclown: stevetherobot: "Presumably, the figurines served as good-luck statues for ensuring the success of the hunt and might have been the focus of a traditional ceremony the hunters performed before going out into the field to pursue their prey."

Sigh.

What's wrong with that?

Presumably? Might have been? They are just guessing and presenting it as fact.

They're not presenting it as fact, they're saying "presumably" and "might have been".


I think the problem is that too many articles these days are all "presumably" and "maybe" and "perhaps". It gets annoying. Less speculation, more factulation please. It's obviously a time travelling device left by Jesus. Silly scienticians.
 
2012-09-04 11:05:15 AM  

Slaxl: Hoboclown: stevetherobot: Hoboclown: stevetherobot: "Presumably, the figurines served as good-luck statues for ensuring the success of the hunt and might have been the focus of a traditional ceremony the hunters performed before going out into the field to pursue their prey."

Sigh.

What's wrong with that?

Presumably? Might have been? They are just guessing and presenting it as fact.

They're not presenting it as fact, they're saying "presumably" and "might have been".

I think the problem is that too many articles these days are all "presumably" and "maybe" and "perhaps". It gets annoying. Less speculation, more factulation please. It's obviously a time travelling device left by Jesus. Silly scienticians.


I guess, but I don't really know what else you can expect with 9,000 year old things. They can state facts about where it was found, what it's made of, how old it is... but until we can go back in time and ask someone there's no way to know with certainty about what an animal figurine meant.
 
2012-09-04 11:06:14 AM  

Rich Cream: Deductive reasoning. Who else existed at that time? God?


What makes you think nobody else existed? There's no dates in the Bible, which I assume you're basing your measurements off of.
 
2012-09-04 11:16:50 AM  

Hoboclown: Slaxl: Hoboclown: stevetherobot: Hoboclown: stevetherobot: "Presumably, the figurines served as good-luck statues for ensuring the success of the hunt and might have been the focus of a traditional ceremony the hunters performed before going out into the field to pursue their prey."

Sigh.

What's wrong with that?

Presumably? Might have been? They are just guessing and presenting it as fact.

They're not presenting it as fact, they're saying "presumably" and "might have been".

I think the problem is that too many articles these days are all "presumably" and "maybe" and "perhaps". It gets annoying. Less speculation, more factulation please. It's obviously a time travelling device left by Jesus. Silly scienticians.

I guess, but I don't really know what else you can expect with 9,000 year old things. They can state facts about where it was found, what it's made of, how old it is... but until we can go back in time and ask someone there's no way to know with certainty about what an animal figurine meant.


That's all they should be doing, stating facts and leaving out the speculation.
 
2012-09-04 11:23:30 AM  

wippit: Rich Cream: Deductive reasoning. Who else existed at that time? God?

What makes you think nobody else existed? There's no dates in the Bible, which I assume you're basing your measurements off of.



Greater minds than mine have used observable facts and deductive reasoning to conclude the "dates".

Ever hear of Theology? It's an "-ology" so it's science! biatches!

/drops crucifix, walks out
 
2012-09-04 11:26:46 AM  

Rich Cream: [msnbcmedia.msn.com image 600x492]

it "seems to depict a large animal with prominent horns that separate the elongated body from the head. The horns emerge from the middle of the head sideward and resemble those of a wild bovine or buffalo."


And you guys make fun of religious people when they see Jesus in toast?


Yes I do. I also mock Latinos seeing Jesus in their burned tortillas. But I make toast and tortillas and could even be considered an expert in toast and tortilla burning, "bro."

And, while slightly more intelligent than your run of the mill American, I am no historical expert of the Mesopotamian cultures and societies. I can appreciate when the author assumes this and describes what might be depicted in a 9000 year old, weathered sculpture.

Also..
img841.imageshack.us
 
2012-09-04 11:36:45 AM  

Cheron: Girion47: Creationists will ignore this is 3...2...1...

I looked this up in my text book and I'm not even seeing 7000BCE

[wonkette.com image 586x545]


You know how I know that textbook was written by Christians?

Jews have long held (ironically, until recently, it was a small minority of absolutist "6-day" Creationists) that the days of creation may not be 24-hour days. The universe was not built in the 168 hours before New Year's.

// I figured it out when I was 8
// if the sun/moon aren't created until day 4, how do we measure a day?
// also, Isaiah says that in heaven "a day is as 1,000 years", so we can add 4,000 years to "In The Beginning"
// you know, assuming you'd rather learn science from ancient fable than from science
 
2012-09-04 11:37:52 AM  

PapaChester: I can appreciate when the author assumes this and describes what might be depicted in a 9000 year old, weathered sculpture.



I know an elaborate interpretation gets more attention than a pestle.
 
2012-09-04 12:17:59 PM  
i49.tinypic.com

Tragically Malicious!
 
2012-09-04 12:18:33 PM  

Rich Cream: PapaChester: I can appreciate when the author assumes this and describes what might be depicted in a 9000 year old, weathered sculpture.


I know an elaborate interpretation gets more attention than a pestle.


msnbcmedia.msn.com

It's a rock that has been altered by humans.

The truth is boring.
 
2012-09-04 12:33:29 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Rich Cream: PapaChester: I can appreciate when the author assumes this and describes what might be depicted in a 9000 year old, weathered sculpture.


I know an elaborate interpretation gets more attention than a pestle.

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 600x492]

It's a rock that has been altered by humans.

The truth is boring.


upload.wikimedia.org
Is also a rock that has been altered by humans.

When you're talking about humans' (or proto-humans') "using rocks as they appeared as crude, rudimentary tools" progressing to "shaping these rocks to suit their needs", it's a pretty big deal. Kind of like the jump from "leaving footprints on Earth" to "leaving footprints on the moon" was.
 
2012-09-04 12:38:26 PM  
i105.photobucket.com

They're always after me fookin arse!
 
2012-09-04 02:01:45 PM  

stevetherobot: That's all they should be doing, stating facts and leaving out the speculation


Why? If all scientists did that, there would have been no LHC.

Don't you think that an experienced archaeologist has more right than anyone to give some sort of educated speculation based on similar cultural findings elsewhere?

What's your guess, then smrtypnts?

Plus, your original statement was false. They in no way presented their supposition as fact, on the contrary, they even utilized speculative language to distinguish the suppositions form the rest of the facts being presented.

/loved 'walking with dinosaurs', and all the supposition grafted from modern animal observation.
 
2012-09-04 02:21:43 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Rich Cream: PapaChester: I can appreciate when the author assumes this and describes what might be depicted in a 9000 year old, weathered sculpture.


I know an elaborate interpretation gets more attention than a pestle.

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 600x492]

It's a rock that has been altered by humans.

The truth is boring.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 280x266]
Is also a rock that has been altered by humans.

When you're talking about humans' (or proto-humans') "using rocks as they appeared as crude, rudimentary tools" progressing to "shaping these rocks to suit their needs", it's a pretty big deal. Kind of like the jump from "leaving footprints on Earth" to "leaving footprints on the moon" was.


It is a big deal, I agree with you. Finding a rock shaped into a tool (or decoration) by early man is very exciting.
What I'm referring to is the idiot majority (surely none of us on Fark) that have to be entertained and dazzled to hold their interest more then 5 minutes. They would rather watch 'Keeping up with the Armenian Whores', then to actually have a little bit of interest in scientific finds. So sometimes finds may be 'embellished' to create a buzz for the general population.
 
2012-09-04 03:47:43 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Rich Cream: PapaChester: I can appreciate when the author assumes this and describes what might be depicted in a 9000 year old, weathered sculpture.


I know an elaborate interpretation gets more attention than a pestle.

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 600x492]

It's a rock that has been altered by humans.

The truth is boring.


Pray they don't alter it further.
 
2012-09-04 07:40:16 PM  
That could just as easily be an old ass plug as it could be anything else, they are just fantasizing about it's intended use. Albeit they have more practice making stuff up about old things than i do so whatever.
 
2012-09-04 09:15:19 PM  
Yorick Brown unavailable for comment?
 
2012-09-04 10:58:56 PM  
The other, smoothed and shaped from dolomite, seems to depict a buffalo, ox or other type of bovine animal, archaeologists said.

Pfff. Idiots. It's clearly

www.oddfilms.com
 
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