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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   RIP: Donald Pepin. A man who witnessed the first U.S. shots of WWII -- an hour before the invasion of Pearl Harbor   (startribune.com) divider line 98
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2012-09-03 11:51:28 PM
Damn Germans.
 
2012-09-04 12:09:32 AM
Invasion? It was a sneak bombing attack. The Japanese didn't sail a flotilla into the harbor, then take it over.
 
2012-09-04 12:18:09 AM

Coco LaFemme: Invasion? It was a sneak bombing attack. The Japanese didn't sail a flotilla into the harbor, then take it over.


Sure, if you buy the official story.
 
2012-09-04 12:19:53 AM

Mentat: Coco LaFemme: Invasion? It was a sneak bombing attack. The Japanese didn't sail a flotilla into the harbor, then take it over.

Sure, if you buy the official story.


The invading force was stopped by a mysterious vessel ...

www.moviegoods.com
 
2012-09-04 12:26:59 AM
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-04 02:03:46 AM

Nadie_AZ: Mentat: Coco LaFemme: Invasion? It was a sneak bombing attack. The Japanese didn't sail a flotilla into the harbor, then take it over.

Sure, if you buy the official story.

The invading force was stopped by a mysterious vessel ...

[www.moviegoods.com image 580x816]


If you liked the premise of that movie but really wanted them to stay and kick some Axis ass then you may be interested in this book:

ebooks-imgs.connect.com 

And it's not just an aircraft carrier, it's a whole TASK FORCE.
 
2012-09-04 02:35:48 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
There's your confirmation!
 
2012-09-04 02:54:04 AM
*Salutes*
 
2012-09-04 02:56:27 AM
24.media.tumblr.com
RIP
 
2012-09-04 02:58:56 AM
It seems as though you don't know that these people are around, until they're gone. It would be nice to have read about this man while he was still alive.
 
2012-09-04 02:59:53 AM
(Donald) Pepin is survived by daughters Diane, Debra and Denise, and son David.

Well played, sir.
 
2012-09-04 03:00:08 AM
I wasn't born until later, subby, but I'm pretty sure the war was about 28 months old at that point.
 
2012-09-04 03:00:58 AM
www.delish.com

RIP Jacques Pepin
 
2012-09-04 03:02:05 AM
is it too soon for jokes?
 
2012-09-04 03:05:18 AM

Krieghund: (Donald) Pepin is survived by daughters Diane, Debra and Denise, and son David.

Well played, sir.


images.politico.com
That's pretty gnarly, bro!
 
2012-09-04 03:06:13 AM
"And after the USS Ward fired the United States' first shots in the war at an enemy midget submarine, Japan's bombers soon filled the skies in what became a day of infamy."

And so a group of trigger-happy Americans started yet another conflict.
 
2012-09-04 03:06:22 AM

astroturd: is it too soon for jokes?


nah, it was over 70 years ago
 
2012-09-04 03:07:53 AM

Speaker2Animals: I wasn't born until later, subby, but I'm pretty sure the war was about 28 months old at that point.


And? The first US shots occurred 28 months after the war started, did they not?
 
2012-09-04 03:11:45 AM

fusillade762: Nadie_AZ: Mentat: Coco LaFemme: Invasion? It was a sneak bombing attack. The Japanese didn't sail a flotilla into the harbor, then take it over.

If you liked the premise of that movie but really wanted them to stay and kick some Axis ass then you may be interested in this book:

[ebooks-imgs.connect.com image 331x500] 

And it's not just an aircraft carrier, it's a whole TASK FORCE.



img.youtube.com

What a Weapon Of Choice may look like
 
2012-09-04 03:17:05 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Speaker2Animals: I wasn't born until later, subby, but I'm pretty sure the war was about 28 months old at that point.

And? The first US shots occurred 28 months after the war started, did they not?


We really need that reading comprehension test for members here.

Oh, mandatory RTFA too.
 
2012-09-04 03:29:04 AM

Speaker2Animals: I wasn't born until later, subby, but I'm pretty sure the war was about 28 months old at that point.


Granted U.S. warships were involved in fighting prior to December 7, 1941. However, the U.S. entered World War II officially by declaring war on Japan on December 8, 1941, the day after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.
 
2012-09-04 03:32:28 AM

spectrek: It seems as though you don't know that these people are around, until they're gone. It would be nice to have read about this man while he was still alive.


too much of life is this way. if you love someone, tell them. twice.
 
2012-09-04 03:39:52 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Speaker2Animals: I wasn't born until later, subby, but I'm pretty sure the war was about 28 months old at that point.

Granted U.S. warships were involved in fighting prior to December 7, 1941. However, the U.S. entered World War II officially by declaring war on Japan on December 8, 1941, the day after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.


My bad -- completely missed the "U.S." in the headline.
 
2012-09-04 03:51:15 AM

Speaker2Animals: Bathia_Mapes: Speaker2Animals: I wasn't born until later, subby, but I'm pretty sure the war was about 28 months old at that point.

Granted U.S. warships were involved in fighting prior to December 7, 1941. However, the U.S. entered World War II officially by declaring war on Japan on December 8, 1941, the day after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

My bad -- completely missed the "U.S." in the headline.


It's okay. I just have a special interest with Pearl Harbor since my dad was stationed at Schofield Barracks when the Japanese attacked. The barracks were strafed after the dive bomber and strafing attacks on Hickam Field and Wheeler Field.
 
2012-09-04 03:56:22 AM
This guy sounds like a cool dude who could tell a story. Not about the war, because you would cry. A story about that nurse from Pensacola, or the time they hid the Captain's shoes.
That whole "You can't imagine how quick you could wake up when they start dropping bombs on you," suggests a storyteller, with stories.
/I'll drink this beer in your honor, and that of your Brothers and Sisters
 
2012-09-04 04:32:29 AM
Bet he was short.
 
2012-09-04 04:33:09 AM
Pepin was on lookout that morning, when a Japanese midget submarine crept toward the harbor. The Ward's crew wasted no time. The second torpedo it fired punctured the tiny vessel. Barely an hour later the historic air assault filled the harbor sky with smoke and the wails of dying Americans.

This is what amazes me about a lack of the USN warning at Pearl Harbor. Didn't anyone in the USN know about what the Japanese did to the Russian fleet in the Russo-Japanese war? Three hours before Japan actually declared war?

Japan issued a declaration of war on 8 February 1904.[16] However, three hours before Japan's declaration of war was received by the Russian Government, the Japanese Imperial Navy attacked the Russian Far East Fleet at Port Arthur.
 
2012-09-04 04:42:58 AM
ak.buy.com
 
2012-09-04 04:54:13 AM
i hope my life amounts to more than just "he saw a war start,once"
 
2012-09-04 05:14:36 AM

Nadie_AZ: Mentat: Coco LaFemme: Invasion? It was a sneak bombing attack. The Japanese didn't sail a flotilla into the harbor, then take it over.

Sure, if you buy the official story.

The invading force was stopped by a mysterious vessel ...

[www.moviegoods.com image 580x816]


BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT I EVER DONE SAW!!!! I used to have a bedtime when I was a kid (late 80's) of about 830. So channel 13 here in orange county started their movies at eight pm, so I naturally saw the first 30 minutes of a movie and never any more. Being the big WW2 buff that I was then and continue to be now, I saw that movie come on and it was my first real introduction into military alternate history.
I snuck in another 15 minutes of watch time and saw up to the part where the tomcats take out the japanese airplane. Always remembered the movie for years after but never got around to watching it. Finally maybe 5 to 10 years ago caught the whole movie. Imagine my disappointment when I waited my whole childhood and early adulthood wondering how we blast the IJN with our modern carriers and finding out that the farking storm just comes back and takes them right back, with no shots fired.
What a load of hooey. Can we get a remake of this please? With us actually sinking the whole fleet? Then showing japanese reaction?

On a side note, Harry Turtledoves Worldwar series would make an excellent three part film.
 
2012-09-04 05:34:58 AM
Pepin was on lookout that morning, when a Japanese midget submarine crept toward the harbor. The Ward's crew wasted no time. The second torpedo it fired punctured the tiny vessel. Barely an hour later the historic air assault filled the harbor sky with smoke and the wails of dying Americans.



It is obviously all his fault!
 
GBB
2012-09-04 05:41:35 AM
Over Pearl Harbor?
 
2012-09-04 06:25:05 AM

Red Shirt Blues: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x288]
There's your confirmation!


Would LOVE to see that one re-done with modern CGI effects...
 
2012-09-04 06:25:06 AM
Subby; You do realize that WWII started a few years before Pearl Harbor, right? Right.
 
2012-09-04 06:32:23 AM
Not really the first shot of WWII since it had been going on for a while when the Germans bombed pearl harbor. First merican shots sure.
 
2012-09-04 06:35:23 AM
How come nobody ever wants to go back in time and stop the assault on Pearl Harbor?
 
2012-09-04 06:46:01 AM

fusillade762: Nadie_AZ: Mentat: Coco LaFemme: Invasion? It was a sneak bombing attack. The Japanese didn't sail a flotilla into the harbor, then take it over.

Sure, if you buy the official story.

The invading force was stopped by a mysterious vessel ...

[www.moviegoods.com image 580x816]

If you liked the premise of that movie but really wanted them to stay and kick some Axis ass then you may be interested in this book:

[ebooks-imgs.connect.com image 331x500] 

And it's not just an aircraft carrier, it's a whole TASK FORCE.


Haven't seen that one before. This series is good, if you like your WW2 mixed with alternate Earth sci-fi:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-04 06:54:37 AM

ShotgunLobotomy: i hope my life amounts to more than just "he saw a war start,once"


Don't worry, someone somewhere will think that is worthy of a hero tag.

/Submitter is an idiot.
 
2012-09-04 07:00:51 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Subby; You do realize that WWII started a few years before Pearl Harbor, right? Right.


And here we have someone who not only didn't read the headline, they also didn't read any comments either. Nice work.
 
2012-09-04 07:10:22 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com

RIP
 
2012-09-04 07:13:04 AM
The Ward's crew wasted no time. The second torpedo it fired punctured the tiny vessel

What the Ward's torpedo launching device might look like.

upload.wikimedia.org

Most everyone else calls it a 4" naval cannon, but StarTribune reporters are special.
 
2012-09-04 07:25:02 AM
First US shots except for those that were flying in Europe, and those trying to stop the Chinese-Japanese war?
 
2012-09-04 07:28:38 AM
Anybody mentioned yet that WWII had been going on for two years before the attack on Pearl Harbor?

/good job Paul Walsh, you're a credit to journalists everywhere
 
2012-09-04 08:04:18 AM

Voiceofreason01: Anybody mentioned yet that WWII had been going on for two years before the attack on Pearl Harbor?

/good job Paul Walsh, you're a credit to journalists everywhere


There's a good chance that the reporter is well aware of the fact and figured a semi-lie as an attention grabber is better than the boring truth.
 
2012-09-04 08:26:50 AM

CrispFlows: Voiceofreason01: Anybody mentioned yet that WWII had been going on for two years before the attack on Pearl Harbor?

/good job Paul Walsh, you're a credit to journalists everywhere

There's a good chance that the reporter is well aware of the fact and figured a semi-lie as an attention grabber is better than the boring truth.


Or there's the fact that the Ward sent out a Naval Message on 7 December 1941 about how it fired on, and believed it sank, a Japanese submarine, which would make it the first shots fired by the United States in WW2, just like the author claimed. 

/It's why the author specifically said US shots, and not just shots.
//It's the first sentence of the second paragraph.
 
2012-09-04 09:11:08 AM

JustGetItRight: The Ward's crew wasted no time. The second torpedo it fired punctured the tiny vessel

What the Ward's torpedo launching device might look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x480]

Most everyone else calls it a 4" naval cannon, but StarTribune reporters are special.


That's a Glock right?
 
2012-09-04 09:16:52 AM

i.r.id10t: JustGetItRight: The Ward's crew wasted no time. The second torpedo it fired punctured the tiny vessel

What the Ward's torpedo launching device might look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x480]

Most everyone else calls it a 4" naval cannon, but StarTribune reporters are special.

That's a Glock right?


No, an AK-47.
 
2012-09-04 09:26:29 AM

JustGetItRight: The Ward's crew wasted no time. The second torpedo it fired punctured the tiny vessel

What the Ward's torpedo launching device might look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x480]

Most everyone else calls it a 4" naval cannon, but StarTribune reporters are special.


I was wondering if anyone else caught that.
 
2012-09-04 09:27:48 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: First US shots except for those that were flying in Europe, and those trying to stop the Chinese-Japanese war?


Not to mention the US destroyers in WWII that dropped depth charges on German U-boats, as early as April or May 1941.
 
2012-09-04 09:38:02 AM

adm_crunch: Satanic_Hamster: Subby; You do realize that WWII started a few years before Pearl Harbor, right? Right.

And here we have someone who not only didn't read the headline, they also didn't read any comments either. Nice work.


And yet subby still won't sleep with you.
 
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