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2012-09-03 05:51:52 PM  

olddinosaur: The Jews have given the Palestinians every chance possible,


Except for the tiny detail of taking more and more Palestinian land and insisting on everything from day one being done on their terms.
 
2012-09-03 05:52:36 PM  

RanDomino: Keizer_Ghidorah
the religions causing them to continue a retarded blood feud

Excuses. It's not about religion. It's about land. People change their religion for reasons of land, money, or politics (but with the ultimate reason being land and/or money) all the time. Religion is just something people hide behind.

Come on, what really motivates people- the idea that a magic sky wizard is going to make you live forever after you die, or the much more provable promise that you're going to be economically successful enough to attract/buy a mate that you can have lots of sex with? People think with their genitals. Religion is just what they tell each other.


Felgraf: Keizer_Ghidorah: Of course, everyone over there could grow up, throw away the religions causing them to continue a retarded blood feud that will have no ending, and live happily ever after.

Yes, because if their religions magically vanished overnight, this feud would be ended via pixiedust and magical rainbows.

People have been fighting over land for a f*cking long time. And even if religion vanishes, they'll each still consider it 'home', so, no. The conflict would not disappear. Hell, they still have a very, very convenient way of thinking of the groups as an 'other' (NOT OUR COUNTRY). Nationalism would just replace religion (though I'd argue it sort of already HAS in this case).

Sorry, human nature sucks sometimes.


This all started because they all think they're God's special chosen people and that that's the Promised Land given from God to his most special people. Other factors came in later, but the starter was "God said we're the best and this is ours, so beat it!".
 
2012-09-03 05:54:26 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: doyner: Well, unlike Israel, we did a far more effective job of committing genocide.


Sure there was genocide attempted against the Jews by Palestinians (and others.) But let's just pretend that the Palestinian ties to the land are correct. What is your proposal to deal with the people who live there now?

And Americans really weren't "that good" at genocide. I don't even think that there is a holy book that says that our wars against the natives were ordained by God.Why there are Natives still here. Why not just give them their land back? 

Isn't that what you are proposing with Israel?


This article is not about some mythical homeland. It is about actual houses that Palestinians were forcibly removed from in the past 20 years, so please quit trying to compare the 2.
 
2012-09-03 05:54:54 PM  
Someone lefter than me: Palestinian-sided comment


Israel-sided comment.
 
2012-09-03 05:56:18 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: Because People in power are Stupid: doyner: Well, unlike Israel, we did a far more effective job of committing genocide.


Sure there was genocide attempted against the Jews by Palestinians (and others.) But let's just pretend that the Palestinian ties to the land are correct. What is your proposal to deal with the people who live there now?

And Americans really weren't "that good" at genocide. I don't even think that there is a holy book that says that our wars against the natives were ordained by God.Why there are Natives still here. Why not just give them their land back? 

Isn't that what you are proposing with Israel?

This article is not about some mythical homeland. It is about actual houses that Palestinians were forcibly removed from in the past 20 years, so please quit trying to compare the 2.


This is not about who stole land from whom! This is about making sure Armageddon starts as soon as possible. Why don't you want to go to Heaven and let the Jews start their process of perfecting themselves so they can go to Heaven, too?
 
2012-09-03 05:57:26 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: This all started because they all think they're God's special chosen people and that that's the Promised Land given from God to his most special people. Other factors came in later, but the starter was "God said we're the best and this is ours, so beat it!".


That's not how Jews interpret "chosen people" but I realize you're on a roll, tell us more about the Germans at Pearl.
 
2012-09-03 05:57:37 PM  

One Bad Apple: Because People in power are Stupid: Party Boy: Because People in power are Stupid: I don't think you know what a Tu Quoque argument is.

Yeah yeah. This is basically the only retort when called out on this garbage.


I see you say you go to UMass. Are you a US citizen?

I'm an Atheist, not Jewish if that is what you're implying.



SPLITTERS


You win the thread.
 
2012-09-03 05:58:07 PM  

stonelotus: so basically israel is flinging their hummus at protesters?

worst hummus on the planet.


Wait...you mean Sabra? Now those are fighting words!
 
2012-09-03 06:00:10 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Insatiable Jesus: Because People in power are Stupid: Party Boy: Straight up yes or no question.

It is none of your business.


In other words, I am an Israeli shill, giving it all I've got to an American audience, influencing and manipulating the sugar daddy.

In other words, you have no rational argument for what you believe and have to resort to name calling.

Great way to lose an argument!


You haven't made a cogent point all thread.
 
2012-09-03 06:01:49 PM  
I bet they smell better now.
 
2012-09-03 06:02:45 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: This article is not about some mythical homeland. It is about actual houses that Palestinians were forcibly removed from in the past 20 years, so please quit trying to compare the 2.


RTFA

The protest is about the Spring and not about dwellings.
 
2012-09-03 06:05:11 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: Because People in power are Stupid: Insatiable Jesus: Because People in power are Stupid: Party Boy: Straight up yes or no question.

It is none of your business.


In other words, I am an Israeli shill, giving it all I've got to an American audience, influencing and manipulating the sugar daddy.

In other words, you have no rational argument for what you believe and have to resort to name calling.

Great way to lose an argument!

You haven't made a cogent point all thread.


Because you are reading this from Iran and the state sponsored filtering software has removed all legible words other than "Death to Israel"?
 
2012-09-03 06:05:57 PM  

RanDomino: Protesting villagers who occasionally throw rocks = terrorists, got it.



There's a number of unguided rockets you can launch at civilian targets before you're the terrorists: 0.

Palestinians have launched more than 0 rockets.

QED.
 
2012-09-03 06:06:15 PM  

OgreMagi: Israel gave them the land they demanded expecting the Palestinians to stick to the peace agreement. The Palestinians saw it as an opportunity for a new front to fire rockets at the "evil j00z". Every single time Israel has made a concession, they have been proven wrong to trust anyone. They have zero incentive to play nice, especially since the UN spends more time denouncing anything they do instead of actually trying to deal with the problem, such as a terrorist organization running things for the Palestinians.


Why are people so keen on the Palestinians having a country? You know, they're not exactly a sympathetic lot. I'll set aside the suicide bombing... how's LGBT rights in Palestine? How's religious freedom? How do they act with regards to political protest? Freedom of the press? Freedom of association? Freedom of property ownership (death if you sell land to Jews)? Freedom of religion? How does the government act with regards to honor killings?
 
2012-09-03 06:06:20 PM  
Oh for fark's sake, they aren't Palestinians! They're Arabs!

/Nazsim! Amidoinitrite?
 
2012-09-03 06:06:32 PM  

WizardofToast: Fluorescent Testicle: I don't understand why everybody seems to be convinced that they have to pick a side here. Why can't we all admit that Israel and Palestine are both acting like spoiled children? Spoiled children with large guns, but spoiled children nonetheless.

The government leaders of both sides and their more religious faction wants to destroy the other for what they claim to be the greater good. The people for both sides are sick of the shiat and just want their own space and to be left alone.


I have long suspected this ... it's the case in our local equivalent of Northern Ireland, where 90% of the populace would cheerfully string up every active member of both the PIRA and the UVF without a tear. The settlers and the stone throwing youths are like the Orange and Republican marchers.

The difference is that government forces here are controlled by reasonable, cooperating adults in Dublin and London rather than the childish sociopathic jingoists that hold sway in Israel and Palestine. The jingoistic cheering from the sidelines by the uninvolved (Tehran and Brooklyn) is similarly unhelpful.
 
2012-09-03 06:07:46 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: gameshowhost: [i48.tinypic.com image 620x132]

^ is not a tu quoque? sweet. let's make up new definitions for everything. :|

I already answered this dufus.


You replied with "It's not a diversionary tactic to ask: What is your solution to the problem?" as a 'clarification' to "Well, since we're playing your game of right is right -why not give our nation back the the natives."

You *weren't* asking for a solution to the specific problem being argued; you were clearly trying to point to "Well you guys did bad thing X" as a diversionary tactic. Just own up that you committed the fallacy; is it that damaging to your ego?

/christ, i've been guilty of using tu quoque a bunch of times
//we're all guilty of using the tactic every now and then
///but when called on it, damn, admit it
//btw you forgot the comma before dufus, so...
/*cough*
 
2012-09-03 06:11:53 PM  
"shiat"

Palestinians call it simply "shiat."



hahahahah
 
2012-09-03 06:12:18 PM  
Have we proved Iran is providing the rocks?
 
2012-09-03 06:12:57 PM  
It's so refreshing to see anti-semitism back in vogue. I was starting to get worried that it had permanently gone out of style... After all, it was so hopelessly gauche for over sixty years!
 
2012-09-03 06:13:11 PM  
Jews still want to milk that holocaust for all it's worth with a straight face huh ?

When you act just like the nazis you look like an asshole whining about what the nazis did to you.
 
2012-09-03 06:13:33 PM  

gameshowhost: Because People in power are Stupid: gameshowhost: [i48.tinypic.com image 620x132]

^ is not a tu quoque? sweet. let's make up new definitions for everything. :|

I already answered this dufus.

You replied with "It's not a diversionary tactic to ask: What is your solution to the problem?" as a 'clarification' to "Well, since we're playing your game of right is right -why not give our nation back the the natives."

You *weren't* asking for a solution to the specific problem being argued; you were clearly trying to point to "Well you guys did bad thing X" as a diversionary tactic. Just own up that you committed the fallacy; is it that damaging to your ego?

/christ, i've been guilty of using tu quoque a bunch of times
//we're all guilty of using the tactic every now and then
///but when called on it, damn, admit it
//btw you forgot the comma before dufus, so...
/*cough*


You omitted the part where I admit that it's a Tu Quoque fallacy:

Because People in power are Stupid: But that is venturing a little too much into a Tu Quoque argument that a hypocrite like yourself might not understand.



So you are committing the fallacy of Cherry Picking. Why don't you just admit it?
 
2012-09-03 06:13:40 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: In other words, you have no rational argument for what you believe and have to resort to name calling.


There is no arguing with the zealot.
 
2012-09-03 06:13:58 PM  
images.pictureshunt.com


"Sacre bleu! Zis is not what my fragrant scent is meant for,monsieurs!"
 
2012-09-03 06:14:21 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Because People in power are Stupid: In other words, you have no rational argument for what you believe and have to resort to name calling.

There is no arguing with the zealot.


Which is why no one is arguing with you.
 
2012-09-03 06:16:07 PM  
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2012-09-03 06:17:22 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: You omitted the part where I admit that it's a Tu Quoque fallacy:


My bad, then. Dufus maloofus.
 
2012-09-03 06:18:51 PM  

jmr61: I think there are maybe 7 to 12 people in the country outside NYC and DC that really give two shiats about Israel and the middle east. I'm certainly not one of them.


And yet we all pay $$$ to keep their dirty war going perpetually. Obama's the first American president who hasn't given Israel a blank check. It is no wonder the Right in America and the pro-israeli lobby wants him gone.
 
2012-09-03 06:19:04 PM  

doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: So they're splashing them with Eu Du Palestinien.
[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

Maybe next time they're offered peace they wouldn't detonate a bomb in Jerusalem.

Yes, because it really is that simple.


Yes, genius, it really is.

Two wars - 1948 and 1967. The Arabs (since Palestine is a region that dates back to Ancient Egypt and covers both Arab lands and the entirety of Israel, making even Israelis Palestinians. Try reading a history book or twelve) lost both of them. The land belongs to Israel by right of conquest. If you deny the right of conquest of Israel, you must also deny the right of conquest of the various nations of Asia, Europe, and North and South America as well. In other words, I am certain that my Sioux and Cherokee relatives would be delighted to have back the land that actually was literally stolen from them, which the Arab lands in the Palestinian region most certainly were not - they were lost "fair and square" in two separate wars.

If "might makes right" for Asia, Europe, and the United States, there can be no double standard for Israel. If you wish to demand that Israel give back the land they won in war, you must first demand your own nation does likewise. If you are not prepared to demand that of your own nation, then you may not make that demand of Israel. Yes, it really is that farking simple.
 
2012-09-03 06:19:07 PM  

jack21221: I think the sick thing is not the use of this foul goo, but the fact that Israeli settlers seized control of a spring in the first place.


Yeah, maybe all the people here making jokes about how Palestinians smell might want to consider how much of their water is stolen by the Israelis.
 
2012-09-03 06:19:09 PM  
Screw Israel. All they do is get us deeper in debt and even more hated by arabs. Cut their billions in foreign aid and they'll start playing nice. Or nicer, at least.
 
2012-09-03 06:22:28 PM  

conjecture and hearsay: Can't we just acknowledge that both sides are terribly annoying and carry on about our business?


Not as long as we fund one side, $ 3 billion or so a year. And the other side gets propped up with money we spend for petroleum to Saudi Arabia.
 
2012-09-03 06:23:00 PM  

Aigoo: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: So they're splashing them with Eu Du Palestinien.
[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

Maybe next time they're offered peace they wouldn't detonate a bomb in Jerusalem.

Yes, because it really is that simple.

Yes, genius, it really is.

Two wars - 1948 and 1967. The Arabs (since Palestine is a region that dates back to Ancient Egypt and covers both Arab lands and the entirety of Israel, making even Israelis Palestinians. Try reading a history book or twelve) lost both of them. The land belongs to Israel by right of conquest. If you deny the right of conquest of Israel, you must also deny the right of conquest of the various nations of Asia, Europe, and North and South America as well. In other words, I am certain that my Sioux and Cherokee relatives would be delighted to have back the land that actually was literally stolen from them, which the Arab lands in the Palestinian region most certainly were not - they were lost "fair and square" in two separate wars.

If "might makes right" for Asia, Europe, and the United States, there can be no double standard for Israel. If you wish to demand that Israel give back the land they won in war, you must first demand your own nation does likewise. If you are not prepared to demand that of your own nation, then you may not make that demand of Israel. Yes, it really is that farking simple.


Ah yes, the "right of conquest." And here I thought that the human race had matured a bit since the days of colonialism. Apparently not. Carry on.
 
2012-09-03 06:23:04 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Right, I got that you are an "American". However, by not standing by our middle-eastern ally supports Iran in the same way that I am "supporting" Israel.

Do you get it?


So if an ally does something wrong we're supposed to stand by them no matter what, huh?
 
2012-09-03 06:23:11 PM  
Two questions.

1. Does it come with matzoh balls?

2. If so, are they floaters or sinkers? This is important.
 
2012-09-03 06:25:31 PM  
Hmm, wonder if they've tried tomatoes.
 
2012-09-03 06:26:50 PM  
Now say something smart about finally having peace in our time. Neville Chamberlain would have made a fine Farker.
 
2012-09-03 06:27:40 PM  

doglover: RanDomino: Protesting villagers who occasionally throw rocks = terrorists, got it.


There's a number of unguided rockets you can launch at civilian targets before you're the terrorists: 0.

Palestinians have launched more than 0 rockets.

QED.


Because ALL palestinians are dirty dirty terrorists, right?

Jingoism. Its not just for Colonial Europe any more.
 
2012-09-03 06:27:41 PM  

SubBass49: Aigoo: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: So they're splashing them with Eu Du Palestinien.
[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

Maybe next time they're offered peace they wouldn't detonate a bomb in Jerusalem.

Yes, because it really is that simple.

Yes, genius, it really is.

Two wars - 1948 and 1967. The Arabs (since Palestine is a region that dates back to Ancient Egypt and covers both Arab lands and the entirety of Israel, making even Israelis Palestinians. Try reading a history book or twelve) lost both of them. The land belongs to Israel by right of conquest. If you deny the right of conquest of Israel, you must also deny the right of conquest of the various nations of Asia, Europe, and North and South America as well. In other words, I am certain that my Sioux and Cherokee relatives would be delighted to have back the land that actually was literally stolen from them, which the Arab lands in the Palestinian region most certainly were not - they were lost "fair and square" in two separate wars.

If "might makes right" for Asia, Europe, and the United States, there can be no double standard for Israel. If you wish to demand that Israel give back the land they won in war, you must first demand your own nation does likewise. If you are not prepared to demand that of your own nation, then you may not make that demand of Israel. Yes, it really is that farking simple.

Ah yes, the "right of conquest." And here I thought that the human race had matured a bit since the days of colonialism. Apparently not. Carry on.


And my point has been that it is not OUR FARKING CONQUEST.
 
2012-09-03 06:29:23 PM  
If God didn't want Palestinians to smell bad, he wouldn't have given them Jewish neighbors.

Stupid libs.
 
2012-09-03 06:29:54 PM  

doyner: So if an ally does something wrong we're supposed to stand by them no matter what, huh?


In this case of using non-lethal force to subdue an opponent that would see them dead, I do. I don't expect that you would. However, I don't claim that you are a secret Palestinian agent possibly paid to argue on Fark. (Which is what you just did to me.)
 
2012-09-03 06:30:48 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: nmemkha: Because People in power are Stupid: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: So they're splashing them with Eu Du Palestinien.
[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

Maybe next time they're offered peace they wouldn't detonate a bomb in Jerusalem.

Yes, because it really is that simple.

Considering that the Israeli's are replying with Non-Lethal force is much better than what the Palestinians would do were the situation reversed.

Are must be in power.

Retard.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-03 06:32:03 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Felgraf: Because People in power are Stupid: jaytkay: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x225]
Lovely people, the settlers. Have you met them?

You are so right.

[writeforgod.stblogs.com image 429x300]

Or maybe not.

Weird. All he did was criticize the settlers.

Is your argument because one side has bad people, the other side cannot? Very strange beliefs, for a self-avowed atheist....

I didn't actually say that ONLY one side has bad people.

I find that bashing Israel is a very hip thing to do. I also find that the consequences of a world without Israel is not as pleasant a thing as these hipsters would have us believe.


We'll never know as long as the US keeps propping up Israel's government.
 
2012-09-03 06:33:56 PM  
Is it me or are the Jews really bad at following Jesus' teachings?
 
2012-09-03 06:36:39 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Is it me or are the Jews really bad at following Jesus' teachings?


Well... They did torture and murder Jesus to death...
 
2012-09-03 06:37:14 PM  

Aigoo: The land belongs to Israel by right of conquest.


I don't agree with this statement. I think it's deliberately set up to be trite, and to make supporters of Israel look trite.

I support Israel as an existing Parliamentary Republic and that is all. The attempted conquest (and resulting defeat) by Arab Nationals is not a reason that Israel should exist but rather a consequence of her existence.
 
2012-09-03 06:37:53 PM  

MemeSlave:


You win the thread.


If only the warring factions would just leave now this would be a nice quiet place to build a ..lifeless desert.
 
2012-09-03 06:39:14 PM  

Generation_D: Because People in power are Stupid: Felgraf: Because People in power are Stupid: jaytkay: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x225]
Lovely people, the settlers. Have you met them?

You are so right.

[writeforgod.stblogs.com image 429x300]

Or maybe not.

Weird. All he did was criticize the settlers.

Is your argument because one side has bad people, the other side cannot? Very strange beliefs, for a self-avowed atheist....

I didn't actually say that ONLY one side has bad people.

I find that bashing Israel is a very hip thing to do. I also find that the consequences of a world without Israel is not as pleasant a thing as these hipsters would have us believe.

We'll never know as long as the US keeps propping up Israel's government.


Besides, cities, countries, and nations have formed, risen, collapsed and changed since we first started making them. Istanbul was Constantinople, now it's Istanbul not Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople. Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks.

/even Old New York was once New Amsterdam
//why they changed it, I can't say
 
2012-09-03 06:41:01 PM  
Israel begins spraying Palestinians with disgusting goo that smells like "a chunk of rotting corpse from a stagnant sewer, placing it in a blender and spraying the filthy liquid in your face."

probably derived from Matzo
 
2012-09-03 06:41:31 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Ed Finnerty: Is it me or are the Jews really bad at following Jesus' teachings?

Well... They did torture and murder Jesus to death...


Oh, right. What's stigmata with me?
 
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