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(Reuters)   Israel begins spraying Palestinians with disgusting goo that smells like "a chunk of rotting corpse from a stagnant sewer, placing it in a blender and spraying the filthy liquid in your face." Yay allies   (reuters.com) divider line 451
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2012-09-03 04:29:52 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: St_Francis_P: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: Party Boy: Straight up yes or no question.

It is none of your business.

Classy.

LOL. Score one for Party Boy.

It's not germane to the discussion. I suppose that in your head I should give him my address too.


When you are trying to influence our thinking about foreign policy, it's quite germane.
 
2012-09-03 04:30:00 PM  
Talk about lack of balance.
 
2012-09-03 04:35:20 PM  

St_Francis_P: Because People in power are Stupid: St_Francis_P: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: Party Boy: Straight up yes or no question.

It is none of your business.

Classy.

LOL. Score one for Party Boy.

It's not germane to the discussion. I suppose that in your head I should give him my address too.

When you are trying to influence our thinking about foreign policy, it's quite germane.


"Our" thinking?

That is a fallacy at best. Stupid at worst, and most likely nationalistic.
 
2012-09-03 04:37:41 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: St_Francis_P: Because People in power are Stupid: St_Francis_P: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: Party Boy: Straight up yes or no question.

It is none of your business.

Classy.

LOL. Score one for Party Boy.

It's not germane to the discussion. I suppose that in your head I should give him my address too.

When you are trying to influence our thinking about foreign policy, it's quite germane.

"Our" thinking?

That is a fallacy at best. Stupid at worst, and most likely nationalistic.


Really? Knowing which nation's interests you represent is nationalistic? That just sounds prudent.
 
2012-09-03 04:39:16 PM  
i48.tinypic.com

^ is not a tu quoque? sweet. let's make up new definitions for everything. :|
 
2012-09-03 04:40:31 PM  

St_Francis_P: Really? Knowing which nation's interests you represent


Like I said -stupid.

In the marketplace of ideas just merely call me on my ideas rather than on a perceived bias. I don't represent any nations interests but rather my own.
 
2012-09-03 04:42:05 PM  

gameshowhost: [i48.tinypic.com image 620x132]

^ is not a tu quoque? sweet. let's make up new definitions for everything. :|


I already answered this dufus.

Because People in power are Stupid: It's not a diversionary tactic to ask: What is your solution to the problem? From anti-Israeli reactionaries -most of whom would either a) Tell the Jews to leave or b) advocate some two state solution (which is the current state of affairs).

But it's a diversionary tactic that pro-Palestinians use, to avoid these ideas as you come across the exact same problem of asking Americans to leave this country and give the land back to the natives. But that is venturing a little too much into a Tu Quoque argument that a hypocrite like yourself might not understand.

 
2012-09-03 04:42:39 PM  
So, it makes the Palestinians smell better then?
 
2012-09-03 04:44:30 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: perceived bias


*snort*
 
2012-09-03 04:44:42 PM  

thamike: Relax, it's merely traditional Jewish Israeli cuisine.


So, it's basically a food product?
 
2012-09-03 04:45:30 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: St_Francis_P: Really? Knowing which nation's interests you represent

Like I said -stupid.

In the marketplace of ideas just merely call me on my ideas rather than on a perceived bias. I don't represent any nations interests but rather my own.


...and Israel. Unless those are your own interests too.
 
2012-09-03 04:52:21 PM  

doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: St_Francis_P: Really? Knowing which nation's interests you represent

Like I said -stupid.

In the marketplace of ideas just merely call me on my ideas rather than on a perceived bias. I don't represent any nations interests but rather my own.

...and Israel. Unless those are your own interests too.


And you represent Iran's interests, but I'm not actually calling you on it.
 
2012-09-03 04:55:05 PM  
Israelis view Palestinians as sub-human creatures, deserving of all the abuse they can get away with giving them.
 
2012-09-03 05:01:17 PM  

Generation_D: Israelis view Palestinians as sub-human creatures, deserving of all the abuse they can get away with giving them.


Yeah, and all Palestinians view all Israelis as legitimate land owners.
 
2012-09-03 05:05:22 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: doyner: And what of the non-violent means of protest?

Well, since we're playing your game of right is right -why not give our nation back the the natives.

(BTW, I anticipate your answer.)


this this and ONLY THIS
Every single nation on the planet exists today on the land of previous nations.

So the idea that Israel has less of a claim to its land is completely and totally false.
Even if we ignore sovereignty claims and just focus on property rights.
Have all the muslim countries decided to give the land, buildings and property that they stole back to the jews? All the jews who were living in iran, iraq, morocco (I am sure that the list includes every muslim country).

These countries kicked the jews out and stole the property.
WHY arent they giving that back? They are concerned about fairness right??

no?? fark EVERYONE
sucks, but you are not getting your shiat back. ever.

/funny how the same people who think the jews should leave israel, refuse to leave america.
 
2012-09-03 05:06:31 PM  
i.telegraph.co.uk

"Okay, that's it. Now neither of you get to own the land. How do you feel now?"
 
2012-09-03 05:07:37 PM  
Come on in folks, to the dumbest Israeli thread to date!
 
2012-09-03 05:08:37 PM  
So they're improving the odor of your average Palestinian? Why the outrage?
 
2012-09-03 05:08:39 PM  
I guess people who post on message boards are stupid too.
 
2012-09-03 05:08:54 PM  
So, they're marking the Palestinians so that they can be easily identified in a crowd? You'd think an article of clothing or something would be more efficient.
 
2012-09-03 05:09:59 PM  

gadian: So, they're marking the Palestinians so that they can be easily identified in a crowd? You'd think an article of clothing or something would be more efficient.


An armband, perhaps?
 
2012-09-03 05:11:10 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: gadian: So, they're marking the Palestinians so that they can be easily identified in a crowd? You'd think an article of clothing or something would be more efficient.

An armband, perhaps?


Maybe some sort of headwear.
 
2012-09-03 05:12:06 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: So they're splashing them with Eu Du Palestinien.
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Maybe next time they're offered peace they wouldn't detonate a bomb in Jerusalem.

Yes, because it really is that simple.

Considering that the Israeli's are replying with Non-Lethal force is much better than what the Palestinians would do were the situation reversed.


So they get to be bad because the Palestinians are worse?
 
2012-09-03 05:12:06 PM  
So? How is that going to be worse than Moslems already smell?
 
2012-09-03 05:12:35 PM  
Setting aside the twisted politics of the entire situation this does seem a rather effective dispersal and deterrent tool. Things that REALLY break up groups of people and motivate them to avoid further confrontation without risking actual injury are tough to come by.
 
2012-09-03 05:13:15 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: So they're splashing them with Eu Du Palestinien.
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Maybe next time they're offered peace they wouldn't detonate a bomb in Jerusalem.


You don't say much my friend, but when you do it's to the point, and I salute you for it.
 
2012-09-03 05:14:08 PM  
I guess if the people throwing rocks complain about the goo, they can accomodate them with bullets.
 
2012-09-03 05:15:06 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Because People in power are Stupid: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: So they're splashing them with Eu Du Palestinien.
[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

Maybe next time they're offered peace they wouldn't detonate a bomb in Jerusalem.

Yes, because it really is that simple.

Considering that the Israeli's are replying with Non-Lethal force is much better than what the Palestinians would do were the situation reversed.

So they get to be bad because the Palestinians are worse?


Putting stinky water on rioters who represent a faction that is shooting homemade rockets at a foreign country? That's not bad, that's forgivable.
 
2012-09-03 05:15:08 PM  
Religion is stupid. Why can't they just...share? Really. Why not.
 
2012-09-03 05:16:37 PM  
"Israel begins spraying Palestinians with disgusting goo that smells like "a chunk of rotting corpse from a stagnant sewer, placing it in a blender and spraying the filthy liquid in your face.""

So they are improving the smell of Palestinians.
 
2012-09-03 05:17:16 PM  

Scrotastic Method: Religion is stupid. Why can't they just...share? Really. Why not.


Because Yahweh.
 
2012-09-03 05:17:19 PM  

Scrotastic Method: Religion is stupid. Why can't they just...share? Really. Why not.


What, and ruin all of these years of frustration?

/it's not religion
//it's stupid people thinking they're being religious
 
2012-09-03 05:17:31 PM  

Party Boy: Because People in power are Stupid: doyner: And what of the non-violent means of protest?

Well, since we're playing your game of right is right -why not give our nation back the the natives.

(BTW, I anticipate your answer.)
Every time I see this Tu Quoque argument from Israeli government press director Daniel Seaman, [1] I picture a person sublimely satisfied with using a rhetorical fallacy as a diversionary tactic that does nothing to answer the original point. 

The sharply bizarre thing, is how many times I've seen this Israeli government press director Daniel Seaman argument.


While at a strict propositional logic level To Quoque is a fallacy, in a discussion and dialogue it is not necessarily a fallacy and can be very enlightening.

It can help:

Point out hypocrisy and agendas
Help everyone understand a current problem in terms of other, well known problems
Raise historical questions that participants may be ignorant about
Broaden a discussion and so broaden a possible solution space
Help each side understand the nuances involved and that neither side is strictly good or strictly bad
Raise other possible historical solutions to what seems to be an intractable problem
 
2012-09-03 05:17:45 PM  

serial_crusher: thamike: Relax, it's merely traditional Jewish Israeli cuisine.

So, it's basically a food product?


cache.gawkerassets.com

//Grrr...you beat me to it.
 
2012-09-03 05:18:10 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Gyrfalcon: Because People in power are Stupid: doyner: Because People in power are Stupid: So they're splashing them with Eu Du Palestinien.
[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

Maybe next time they're offered peace they wouldn't detonate a bomb in Jerusalem.

Yes, because it really is that simple.

Considering that the Israeli's are replying with Non-Lethal force is much better than what the Palestinians would do were the situation reversed.

So they get to be bad because the Palestinians are worse?

Putting stinky water on rioters who represent a faction that is shooting homemade rockets at a foreign country? That's not bad, that's forgivable.


So because one group has attacked Israel in the past, that's perfect justification for shutting down a demonstration, gotcha.

You approved of the pepper spraying of the UC Davis demonstrators, didn't you? (After all, Occupy protestors had damaged property in other cities, so therefore use of force in that case was entirely justified, by your logic)
 
2012-09-03 05:18:38 PM  
I think there are maybe 7 to 12 people in the country outside NYC and DC that really give two shiats about Israel and the middle east. I'm certainly not one of them.
 
2012-09-03 05:20:08 PM  
So the Israelis continue herding people into ghettos, confiscating their property and marking them. Sounds familiar.
 
2012-09-03 05:20:16 PM  
What are the Israelis blackmailing us with? What other group of genocidal, delusional psychopaths have we been bankrolling ( with zero return ) to the tune of billions of dollars a year for over half a century? And how can any Jew even feign respect for what Israel does?
 
2012-09-03 05:20:36 PM  
I get it, I get it. Israeli's aren't all racist - just the ones that signed up to Fark. Gotcha!
 
2012-09-03 05:20:55 PM  
For the army, skunk, and a less-used, focused noise beam called "scream", are proof of defense minister's Ehud Barak's claim that Israel's is "the most moral army in the world", pioneering non-lethal weapons.


files.abovetopsecret.com
 
2012-09-03 05:21:30 PM  

Gyrfalcon: shutting down a demonstration,

A riot yes.

The UC OWS protesters do not make homemade explosives attach them to rockets and shoot them at Mexico. The day that happens is the day that I approve of putting some stinky water on them too.
 
2012-09-03 05:22:21 PM  

St. Celery: What are the Israelis blackmailing us with? What other group of genocidal, delusional psychopaths have we been bankrolling ( with zero return ) to the tune of billions of dollars a year for over half a century? And how can any Jew even feign respect for what Israel does?


The US is run by Jews. Israel is a Jewish state, therefore the US supports Israel.
 
2012-09-03 05:23:04 PM  

Scrotastic Method: Religion is stupid. Why can't they just...share? Really. Why not.


Basically because early Islam was fighting some dudes and Mohammed told the Jews in a town "come fight for me or else" and the Jews weren't willing to basically endorse Islam by fighting on their side. Mohammed got pissed that the Jews wouldn't take orders, and that's when Islam vs Judaism happened.

The arrogance of Mohammed makes modern douchebags look well adjusted.
 
2012-09-03 05:23:32 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: St. Celery: What are the Israelis blackmailing us with? What other group of genocidal, delusional psychopaths have we been bankrolling ( with zero return ) to the tune of billions of dollars a year for over half a century? And how can any Jew even feign respect for what Israel does?

The US is run by Jews. Israel is a Jewish state, therefore the US supports Israel.


Dat's
Extremely
Realistic and
Perceptive.
 
2012-09-03 05:24:14 PM  

Gyrfalcon: So because one group has attacked Israel in the past, that's perfect justification for shutting down a demonstration, gotcha.You approved of the pepper spraying of the UC Davis demonstrators, didn't you? (After all, Occupy protestors had damaged property in other cities, so therefore use of force in that case was entirely justified, by your logic)


I thought the analogy it incidents pretty long in the past was a stretch, but, unlike Occupy this doesn't seem to have been a peaceful protest.

Gangly Palestinian youths in jeans are ready to let fly stones from homemade slings at Israeli soldiers down the main road of Nabi Saleh village, whose residents demand access to a local spring seized by Israeli settlers.

The soldiers form a phalanx around their curious weapon of war.

"We run away fast when it comes at us, but we don't quit," said a local boy clutching a rock, his dark eyes framed by the oval opening of a black t-shirt wrapped around his face.


There are also other times when there are "peaceful" protests called at various fences and checkpoints across Israel, but the protests are called for having so many people come knock down the fences that I think it does form a reasonable threat to Israel. Not sure if "skunk" is used then or not.

I don't know enough about skunk to know enough about skunk to judge it.

It seems much less dangerous than our microwave anti-crowd devices, and perhaps more dangerous than our acoustic anti-crowd devices, and less dangerous than shooting rubber bullets and stuff like that.
 
2012-09-03 05:24:38 PM  
Until someone invents a "sleep-ray", non-lethal deterrents will be unpleasant. The more unpleasant the better, because that makes them more deterring.
 
2012-09-03 05:25:20 PM  
And when you put your hand, in a pile of goo, that used to be your friend. Well, you'll know what to do.
 
2012-09-03 05:25:36 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Are they doing this from the safety of all those homes they stole from said Palestinians?


As noted by those who did the same thing to the Native Americans.
 
2012-09-03 05:26:28 PM  

KeelingLovesCornholes: The My Little Pony Killer: Are they doing this from the safety of all those homes they stole from said Palestinians?

As noted by those who did the same thing to the Native Americans.


Both sides are bad, so vote Atahualpa?
 
2012-09-03 05:27:06 PM  
I think the sick thing is not the use of this foul goo, but the fact that Israeli settlers seized control of a spring in the first place.
 
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