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(MSN Entertainment (India))   Director Paul Thomas Anderson: Okay, fine, you got me, my movie "The Master" about a failed sci-fi writer who founds a cult IS based on L Ron Hubbard   (entertainment.in.msn.com) divider line 40
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2012-09-03 01:18:04 PM
Better hire Blackwater to protect PTA
 
2012-09-03 01:19:02 PM
In other mind-blowing news,his wife is insanely hot.
 
2012-09-03 01:20:36 PM

Apos: In other mind-blowing news,his wife is insanely hot.


Are you sure you aren't thinking of Paul WS Anderson
 
2012-09-03 01:21:41 PM
Link wants me to login to my Live account. It's an AP story so take your pick of links, here's one
 
2012-09-03 01:27:54 PM

you are a puppet: Apos: In other mind-blowing news,his wife is insanely hot.

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Paul WS Anderson


Ahhhh...She'shiatched to Paul Anderson The Lesser. Thanks for the correction.
 
2012-09-03 01:45:31 PM

you are a puppet: Paul WS Anderson


This movie sounds like it'd be way better of that Paul Anderson was the one directing this flick.
 
2012-09-03 01:46:06 PM

GreenAdder: you are a puppet: Paul WS Anderson

This movie sounds like it'd be way better of if that Paul Anderson was the one directing this flick.


Derp.
 
2012-09-03 01:46:26 PM
"The Master"?

Where's Torgo?
 
2012-09-03 01:55:26 PM
The Guardian gave the movie a perfect five stars.
 
2012-09-03 02:04:36 PM

I_Love_Cheesecake: The Guardian gave the movie a perfect five stars.


You scared the Bejeesus out of me. For a second, I forgot what tab this was. I thought I had the Oogieloves thread open.
 
2012-09-03 02:32:54 PM
I will see this movie when it comes out. It looks brilliant and will through the Xenu nuts into a tizzy. This is a movie every sane Farker should watch!
 
2012-09-03 02:38:36 PM
I can't wait to see it. Can't. Wait.
 
2012-09-03 03:03:20 PM

Krustofsky: "The Master"?

Where's Torgo?


John Saxon?
 
2012-09-03 03:19:59 PM
So if it's 70mm, do you need IMAX for that? So pumped to see this!
 
paj
2012-09-03 03:41:15 PM
Tried unsuccessfully to get tickets for the premiere @ TIFF, no dice. Sold out in minutes. I guess its just  Camp 14: Total Control Zone for me.  Oh, and Pusher too.
 
2012-09-03 04:09:21 PM

Mawson of the Antarctic: So if it's 70mm, do you need IMAX for that? So pumped to see this!


You just need a theater that us set up for 70mm projection, but those are way more rare than IMAX. Here in Seattle, only the Cinerama has 70mm projection as fas as I know, while several theaters near me have IMAX.
 
2012-09-03 04:10:15 PM

Faith Logic Passion: Better hire Blackwater to protect PTA


Nah, if Trey Parker and Matt Stone are still working in Hollywood after their Scientology-themed episode of South Park, which actually mentioned Xenu by name, PTA is gonna be just fine.
 
2012-09-03 04:12:07 PM
/Saw 2001 in 70mm at the Seattle Cinerama in 2001.
//Awesome experience
 
2012-09-03 04:19:48 PM
Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.
 
2012-09-03 04:43:58 PM

gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.


Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.
 
2012-09-03 04:47:21 PM

LucklessWonder: gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.

Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.


Actually, I haven't read Battlefield Earth, but I respect the opinion of those who have told me it's a good book. I've read some of his pulp fiction and it's...entertaining. Like it or not, serious science fiction folks consider Battlefield Earth a classic.
 
2012-09-03 04:48:50 PM

LucklessWonder: gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.

Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.


But that's your opinion, not necessarily other people's. Success and failure is usually measured in terms of the number of people who have read and enjoyed your work. Doesn't matter what your or my personal opinion is, if enough people like a writer then that writer is a success, like it or not. How else would you objectively measure success? (Please note that "success" is not to be confused with artistic merit.)
 
2012-09-03 04:51:55 PM
I liked bfeild earth, it had some good scenes, but it was never meant to be a movie
 
2012-09-03 04:56:08 PM

B.L.Z. Bub: LucklessWonder: gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.

Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.

But that's your opinion, not necessarily other people's. Success and failure is usually measured in terms of the number of people who have read and enjoyed your work. Doesn't matter what your or my personal opinion is, if enough people like a writer then that writer is a success, like it or not. How else would you objectively measure success? (Please note that "success" is not to be confused with artistic merit.)


Note, however, that before founding CoS, LRH was not a financially successful SF writer.
His fame and sales of his SF writing ballooned long after he had become a successful cult leader. 

//This is what I remember erading in the past. I am not going to provide citations, 'cuz who knows what's true or not on the 'Net
 
2012-09-03 04:56:47 PM
*reading*
 
2012-09-03 04:58:55 PM

sirrerun: B.L.Z. Bub: LucklessWonder: gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.

Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.

But that's your opinion, not necessarily other people's. Success and failure is usually measured in terms of the number of people who have read and enjoyed your work. Doesn't matter what your or my personal opinion is, if enough people like a writer then that writer is a success, like it or not. How else would you objectively measure success? (Please note that "success" is not to be confused with artistic merit.)

Note, however, that before founding CoS, LRH was not a financially successful SF writer.
His fame and sales of his SF writing ballooned long after he had become a successful cult leader. 

//This is what I remember erading in the past. I am not going to provide citations, 'cuz who knows what's true or not on the 'Net


He was among the most successful SF writers of the time, in there with Asimov and Harlan Ellison and all of those guys. I would agree that he wasn't buying massive yachts at that point...no SF writers were. But you're absolutely right, he became massively wealthy after he realized that starting a "religion" would make him a hell of a lot more than a penny a word.
 
2012-09-03 05:16:41 PM

LucklessWonder: gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.

Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.


Yes, it is very apt. When I was younger and ignorant of Scientology I tried to read Mission Earth, and even my teenaged self knew it was irredeemably terrible.
 
2012-09-03 05:21:08 PM

Mad_Radhu: LucklessWonder: gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.

Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.

Yes, it is very apt. When I was younger and ignorant of Scientology I tried to read Mission Earth, and even my teenaged self knew it was irredeemably terrible.


Well, he wrote that well after he went sooper dooper looney.
 
2012-09-03 06:03:24 PM
As always, for more info on that upstanding group running Clearwater, Fla. see clambake.org.
 
2012-09-03 06:06:03 PM

gimmegimme: LucklessWonder: gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.

Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.

Actually, I haven't read Battlefield Earth, but I respect the opinion of those who have told me it's a good book. I've read some of his pulp fiction and it's...entertaining. Like it or not, serious science fiction folks consider Battlefield Earth a classic.


Who are they? Because I'd worry about their mental state. That book is crap. Poorly written, overly long and filled with one dimensional characters.
 
2012-09-03 06:13:08 PM
The Master Pedophile and Disgraced Failure?
 
2012-09-03 07:15:17 PM

gimmegimme: Actually, I haven't read Battlefield Earth, but I respect the opinion of those who have told me it's a good book. I've read some of his pulp fiction and it's...entertaining. Like it or not, serious science fiction folks consider Battlefield Earth a classic.


It's 1940's-style pulp scifi. it's not terrible, but certainly not that good. Plus, it's overly long (like 1000 pages) containing about 200 pages of plot.

It's the Atlas Shrugged of scifi.
 
2012-09-03 07:36:36 PM

wraithmare: As always, for more info on that upstanding group running Clearwater, Fla. see clambake.org.


No wayyyyy!!! You tricked me the last time when you told me lemon party.org was a website for specialty lemonade drinks.

Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, won't get, won't get fooled again
 
2012-09-03 07:36:54 PM

Tax Boy: It's 1940's-style pulp scifi. it's not terrible, but certainly not that good. Plus, it's overly long (like 1000 pages) containing about 200 pages of plot.

It's the Atlas Shrugged of scifi.


If you sell enough, you're not a failure, no matter what kind of dreck you write.

That's why Danielle Steele has a bigger house than yours and mine put together.
 
2012-09-03 07:45:34 PM

Mad_Radhu: /Saw 2001 in 70mm at the Seattle Cinerama in 2001.
//Awesome experience


I was living in Seattle in 2001, and I saw several movies at the Cinerama, but I never heard that they were gonna play "2001" there.

I'm now insanely jealous for having missed that. That would have been incredible.
 
2012-09-03 08:34:52 PM
Is this the movie I'm supposed to think is totally awesome because I'm supposed to be very angry about Scientology or something?
 
2012-09-03 10:18:56 PM

LDM90: Is this the movie I'm supposed to think is totally awesome because I'm supposed to be very angry about Scientology or something?


No, this is a totally awesome movie which will also piss off Scientologists.

/it's win/win.
 
2012-09-03 11:07:30 PM
He can only admit that because L. Ron Hubbard is dead. David Simon can't admit Carcetti is based on Martin O'Malley or he'd get sued.
 
2012-09-03 11:14:13 PM

Flappyhead: gimmegimme: LucklessWonder: gimmegimme: Well, no one is more anti-Scientology than I am, but it's not fair to say LRH was a "failed" science fiction writer.

Have you read his stuff? Failed is apt.

Actually, I haven't read Battlefield Earth, but I respect the opinion of those who have told me it's a good book. I've read some of his pulp fiction and it's...entertaining. Like it or not, serious science fiction folks consider Battlefield Earth a classic.

Who are they? Because I'd worry about their mental state. That book is crap. Poorly written, overly long and filled with one dimensional characters.


Didn't Mitt Romney say "Battlefield Earth" was his favorite book? Not trolling.
 
2012-09-04 04:07:04 AM
So this guy is making a movie about Hubbard that's not about Hubbard, after a prominent devotee of Hubbard made a movie about Clinton that's not about Clinton? So, full circle then?
 
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