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2012-09-03 03:27:55 PM

Psylent1: It would have been a so much better to reveal if the most insane Dalek in the universe was a Dalek without any hate within it.


"EXTERMINATE!"
"BUT WHY?"
"SILENCE! EXTERMINATE THE DOCTOR!"
"THE DOCTOR DOES NOT SEEM THAT BAD."
"SHUT UP!"
 
2012-09-03 03:29:21 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Mega Steve: [www.heatworld.com image 615x597]

I like her a lot already. She's adorable and a good actress.

Ace 2.0.

/not that that's a bad thing.


As long as we don't get an Adric 2.0.
 
2012-09-03 03:30:09 PM

Bloody William: FirstNationalBastard: Mega Steve: [www.heatworld.com image 615x597]

I like her a lot already. She's adorable and a good actress.

Ace 2.0.

/not that that's a bad thing.

As long as we don't get an Adric 2.0.


We never saw a body!
 
2012-09-03 03:33:08 PM

Son of Thunder: Psylent1: It would have been a so much better to reveal if the most insane Dalek in the universe was a Dalek without any hate within it.
"EXTERMINATE!"
"BUT WHY?"
"SILENCE! EXTERMINATE THE DOCTOR!"
"THE DOCTOR DOES NOT SEEM THAT BAD."
"SHUT UP!"

"HOLD ON A SECOND ... OK, STILL WANT ME TO EXTERMINATE THE DOCTOR?"
"DOCTOR WHO?"
 
2012-09-03 03:37:57 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Bloody William:
As long as we don't get an Adric 2.0.
We never saw a body!


If it weren't for Adric's failure, none of us would be here, Earth would be populated by the Silurians, and Madame Vastra wouldn't have a submissive young human maid to eagerly serve her every need.
 
2012-09-03 03:43:31 PM

HopScotchNSoda: FirstNationalBastard: Bloody William:
As long as we don't get an Adric 2.0.
We never saw a body!

If it weren't for Adric's failure, none of us would be here, Earth would be populated by the Silurians, and Madame Vastra wouldn't have a submissive young human maid to eagerly serve her every need.


Never. saw. a. body.

He could have been plucked out of the ship at the last second. Cybermen or Daleks or The Black Guardian could have plucked his shattered, mangled body from the wreckage. He could have lived!
 
2012-09-03 03:44:06 PM
Were the Dalek's eggs a little cracked in this ep?

Did the Doctor take a hard-boiled approach to the problem?

/runs/
 
2012-09-03 03:45:15 PM
Unless Oswin was somehow able to change her voice, how could the Doctor NOT have known what she was?

That's a hole big enough to fly Bootsy and the entire Dalek parliament mother ship through.
 
2012-09-03 03:53:37 PM

scalpod: Unless Oswin was somehow able to change her voice, how could the Doctor NOT have known what she was?

That's a hole big enough to fly Bootsy and the entire Dalek parliament mother ship through.


Talking through a radio/comm system is different from using the Dalek voice box. She'd imagine her voice the same way she imagined her body, the comfy chair etc.
A Dalek is just a tank. A tank operator will sound very different over the radio and over the tanks PA system.
 
2012-09-03 03:56:33 PM

Flint Ironstag: Talking through a radio/comm system is different from using the Dalek voice box. She'd imagine her voice the same way she imagined her body, the comfy chair etc.
A Dalek is just a tank. A tank operator will sound very different over the radio and over the tanks PA system.


Except that we & the Doctor hear her voice -- i.e., the actress' real voice, the one she will presumably still have when she starts as a companion in "Doctor Who's All-Lesbian Christmas Hour".
 
2012-09-03 04:13:54 PM

FirstNationalBastard: HopScotchNSoda: FirstNationalBastard: Bloody William:
As long as we don't get an Adric 2.0.
We never saw a body!

If it weren't for Adric's failure, none of us would be here, Earth would be populated by the Silurians, and Madame Vastra wouldn't have a submissive young human maid to eagerly serve her every need.

Never. saw. a. body.

He could have been plucked out of the ship at the last second. Cybermen or Daleks or The Black Guardian could have plucked his shattered, mangled body from the wreckage. He could have lived!


I still want to see the "Rory as a villain mentored by your version of a twisted and scarred Adric" as a 2 season story arc.
 
2012-09-03 04:17:55 PM

TheManofPA: FirstNationalBastard: HopScotchNSoda: FirstNationalBastard: Bloody William:
As long as we don't get an Adric 2.0.
We never saw a body!

If it weren't for Adric's failure, none of us would be here, Earth would be populated by the Silurians, and Madame Vastra wouldn't have a submissive young human maid to eagerly serve her every need.

Never. saw. a. body.

He could have been plucked out of the ship at the last second. Cybermen or Daleks or The Black Guardian could have plucked his shattered, mangled body from the wreckage. He could have lived!

I still want to see the "Rory as a villain mentored by your version of a twisted and scarred Adric" as a 2 season story arc.


At this point, they could do a whole season of the Doctor having to confront his failures, or go back and see what happened to the places where he created a massive upheaval or regime change then just farked off away in the TARDIS.
 
2012-09-03 04:28:01 PM

FirstNationalBastard: At this point, they could do a whole season of the Doctor having to confront his failures, or go back and see what happened to the places where he created a massive upheaval or regime change then just farked off away in the TARDIS.


That's the premise of Professor Candy's research. He is very anti-Doctor. That Moffat brought him into cannon last year was a very good sign. For those unaware, Moffat created Prof. Candy in his first published DW story, "Continuity Errors", in 1997, two years before he wrote the charity special, "Curse of the Fatal Death".
 
2012-09-03 04:32:04 PM

HopScotchNSoda: FirstNationalBastard: At this point, they could do a whole season of the Doctor having to confront his failures, or go back and see what happened to the places where he created a massive upheaval or regime change then just farked off away in the TARDIS.

That's the premise of Professor Candy's research. He is very anti-Doctor. That Moffat brought him into cannon last year was a very good sign. For those unaware, Moffat created Prof. Candy in his first published DW story, "Continuity Errors", in 1997, two years before he wrote the charity special, "Curse of the Fatal Death".


Speaking of Kandy, I think we're all agreed that this is one piece of Doctor Who history that can stay buried...

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

I could deal with the big green cock monsters of Peladon coming back, but not giant candy covered abortion.
 
2012-09-03 04:35:09 PM

Great Janitor: Great first episode. Just curious as to how that ship crashed onto that planet.


That's the one thing that bugged me about the episode. They played it off as Rory and Amy were scooped up by a Dalek ship and taken to the asylum in the same time period, yet in order for the Alaska to have crashed on the asylum it'd have to be centuries later.
 
2012-09-03 04:36:22 PM

Son of Thunder: Psylent1: It would have been a so much better to reveal if the most insane Dalek in the universe was a Dalek without any hate within it.

"EXTERMINATE!"
"BUT WHY?"
"SILENCE! EXTERMINATE THE DOCTOR!"
"THE DOCTOR DOES NOT SEEM THAT BAD."
"SHUT UP!"


WILL YOU BE MY FRIEND!
NOBODY WILL BE MY FRIEND!
*click*
TWILIGHT SPARKLE, YOU ARE MY ONLY FRIEND!
 
2012-09-03 04:37:55 PM

Psylent1: Oswin should have just been a Dalek, not a converted human


This times eleventy-billion.
 
2012-09-03 04:47:59 PM

HopScotchNSoda: Remember their casual proposal scene in "TWORS": "We should get drinks sometime." "O.K." "And married." "Fine." It probably went more or less the same way in the regular timeline(s) as well.


That's pretty much how my husband and I proposed to each other. He's the love of my life.

/Just sayin' 
//I'd marry Rory in a heartbeat
 
2012-09-03 04:51:26 PM

Serial: Great Janitor: Great first episode. Just curious as to how that ship crashed onto that planet.

That's the one thing that bugged me about the episode. They played it off as Rory and Amy were scooped up by a Dalek ship and taken to the asylum in the same time period, yet in order for the Alaska to have crashed on the asylum it'd have to be centuries later.


The Daleks have time travel though.
 
2012-09-03 04:53:41 PM

Bloody William: FirstNationalBastard: Mega Steve: [www.heatworld.com image 615x597]

I like her a lot already. She's adorable and a good actress.

Ace 2.0.

/not that that's a bad thing.

As long as we don't get an Adric 2.0.


You're just jealous because you suck at math!
 
2012-09-03 04:55:16 PM

rynthetyn: Serial: Great Janitor: Great first episode. Just curious as to how that ship crashed onto that planet.
That's the one thing that bugged me about the episode. They played it off as Rory and Amy were scooped up by a Dalek ship and taken to the asylum in the same time period, yet in order for the Alaska to have crashed on the asylum it'd have to be centuries later.
The Daleks have time travel though.


Why? Because it was advanced? Nobody said it was from Earth. Look at Titanic in "Voyage of the Damned".
 
2012-09-03 04:57:25 PM

thecpt: I'm sorry, but waiting for 2000 years trumps everything. That part of the episode didn't compare to everything else (which was fantastic) because of it.


She could have said "Yeah and that's the 2000th time you've reminded me." Maybe living with Rory isn't that easy.
 
2012-09-03 05:01:23 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Mega Steve: [www.heatworld.com image 615x597]

I like her a lot already. She's adorable and a good actress.

Ace 2.0.

/not that that's a bad thing.


Ace's only real drawback is that whoever was writing for her decided to SHOVEL the slang into her dialogue. And the slang didn't even make any sense. She acted the way the suit in the main office who created her thought teenagers acted. And then they hired a 26-year-old to play her. Sophie Aldred did her best, and she was given great material to work with, but she was swimming against those two things.
 
2012-09-03 05:15:06 PM

ItsJustJake: HopScotchNSoda: See, we just don' t know yet. She could have converted her consciousness into a data stream and uploaded herself into the TARDIS' computer like River went into a sonic screwdriver at her death

Or, even easier, she transferred herself to the Dalek network, which she was 9obviously) more familiar with. It's there if they ever want to bring her back.


Or maybe she meets the Doctor in her past, before she joins a ship that crashes in the Dalek Asylum.
 
2012-09-03 05:36:39 PM

shpritz: Or maybe she meets the Doctor in her past, before she joins a ship that crashes in the Dalek Asylum.


No, no, no, no. Enough with the mobius companionships. 57% of the multi-episode companions since Mel Bush (58.3% since Rose Tyler) have had mobius timelines vis-a-vis the Doctor -- plus non-companions Jackie Tyler and Elizabeth I. Of the multi-episdoe companions since Mel whose relationships with the Doctor were in-sync, half were pre-existing non-companions and were only companions for a single episode. And another of those in-sync with the Doctor had mobius relationships with her own mother and the house she torched. Donna and Rory are the only characters since Peri Brown in 1986 who have been official companions for multiple episodes without having their timelines loop back on other characters' timelines -- and even they qualify only if you disregard their negated/alternate timelines in "Turn Left" and "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang"
 
2012-09-03 05:38:21 PM
I guess Adric would make a good villain. He's a super genius that evolved from giant freaking spiders.
 
2012-09-03 05:43:07 PM

Mega Steve: I guess Adric would make a good villain. He's a super genius that evolved from giant freaking spiders.


Super geniuses don't always make very formidable enemies.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-03 05:53:25 PM

Mega Steve: I guess Adric would make a good villain. He's a super genius that evolved from giant freaking spiders.


Thanagarian Snare Beast in the third act?
 
2012-09-03 05:56:43 PM
 
2012-09-03 05:57:35 PM

Bloody William: FirstNationalBastard: Mega Steve: [www.heatworld.com image 615x597]

I like her a lot already. She's adorable and a good actress.

Ace 2.0.

/not that that's a bad thing.

As long as we don't get an Adric 2.0.


I was just reading the episode summary of Full Circle, and apparently the guy who wrote the episode was 17 and had always wanted to write for Doctor Who. I have to wonder if Adric wound up being a bit of a Gary Stu because of this.
 
2012-09-03 06:10:51 PM

HopScotchNSoda: No, no, no, no. Enough with the mobius companionships. 57% of the multi-episode companions since Mel Bush (58.3% since Rose Tyler) have had mobius timelines vis-a-vis the Doctor -- plus non-companions Jackie Tyler and Elizabeth I. Of the multi-episdoe companions since Mel whose relationships with the Doctor were in-sync, half were pre-existing non-companions and were only companions for a single episode. And another of those in-sync with the Doctor had mobius relationships with her own mother and the house she torched. Donna and Rory are the only characters since Peri Brown in 1986 who have been official companions for multiple episodes without having their timelines loop back on other characters' timelines -- and even they qualify only if you disregard their negated/alternate timelines in "Turn Left" and "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang"


Hell, even Rory's companionship is mobius, although only briefly within his companionship, and they still met each other at the same time. The Doctor who waves to him in The Flying Deuces , sends them the invitations to Utah, and enjoys a nice picnic with them from within the Tesalecta is from after "The God Complex".
 
2012-09-03 06:27:30 PM
I mentioned this in the other thread from the night of the premier, but to me, Amy and Rory seem past their prime. Their story has concluded, and now they have to find ridiculously stupid reasons for the Doctor to continue to be part of their lives. Sarah Jane had the right way of it, "everything has its time." Amy and Rory just come off as having been with the Doctor too long.

And yes, the whole divorce seemed horribly contrived. Here are two people who have been through literal life and death, through the end of the universe and back, who have been shown more than once that they are destined to be together, but hey, let's have them split up. And all because Amy can't have kids any more...except, oh wait, they know someone with a magic box who shows up from time to time and has access to advanced technology that could probably fix that in a jiffy. One pop off to New Earth and a visit with the cat people and Amy would be good as new. Or a good dose of nanogenes.

Wait...nanogenes? Oh my. She ran into those in this episode!

The point is, it's just silly that she would react that way, especially considering she clearly never talked to the Doctor about that or heck, even River, who seems to pop by from time to time. I'm pretty sure if mom and dad asked, River could find a med scanner or two for them. Hell, her Vortex Manipulator probably can do the job, if not fix whatever is wrong. It's like a comic book character who's best friends with Superman chewing their leg off to get out from under a rock - you know, he could lift that for you...not even a big problem for him...kinda simple, actually.

Overall there were a couple of obvious hints in the episode ("Make them remember you." "Remember me." the blinking light on the vanity), but it actually didn't feel all that good to me, mostly because of the highly contrived divorce plot. And seriously, where do you go with Amy and Rory now? Break them up again? Kill one of them? Anything they do at this point to remove "and they lived happily ever after" will feel like a cheat.
 
2012-09-03 06:29:02 PM

HopScotchNSoda: Flint Ironstag: Talking through a radio/comm system is different from using the Dalek voice box. She'd imagine her voice the same way she imagined her body, the comfy chair etc.
A Dalek is just a tank. A tank operator will sound very different over the radio and over the tanks PA system.

Except that we & the Doctor hear her voice -- i.e., the actress' real voice, the one she will presumably still have when she starts as a companion in "Doctor Who's All-Lesbian Christmas Hour".


The Doctor heard "her voice" that she imagined and transmitted, just as she imagined the comfy chair, the souffle and the Carmen opera, the same opera they all heard on the Dalek mothership.. Once the Doctor was in the room with her he heard her Dalek voice.
 
2012-09-03 06:32:03 PM

TheManofPA: Mega Steve: I guess Adric would make a good villain. He's a super genius that evolved from giant freaking spiders.

Thanagarian Snare Beast in the third act?


You want the Doctor to wrestle a polar bear?
 
2012-09-03 06:55:23 PM

Flint Ironstag: The Doctor heard "her voice" that she imagined and transmitted, just as she imagined the comfy chair, the souffle and the Carmen opera, the same opera they all heard on the Dalek mothership.. Once the Doctor was in the room with her he heard her Dalek voice.


Yes, he heard her in-her-head voice when transmitted. The other poster's point was that he would presumably recognise that voice come Christmas, just like he and Rose recognised Gwen's face & voice, and he recognised Dodo's face & voice. You said that he only heard it through the transmission. I agreed -- but the transmitted voice that he and everyone else heard is the same voice as the forthcoming companion, which he will presumably recognise.

I don't know what their connection is supposed to be -- but Moffat clearly intends them to be closely related and, moreover, that Oswin is important to the new companion's story (as opposed to Myles' and Agyeman's characters who were just retconned to be related order to explain away the striking resemblances to the audience). Coleman was deliberately cast as Oswin after already hired on as the next companion.

Remember that this is the same man who provided a spoiler in "The Impossible Astronaut" to confirm that the little girl was little River -- by casting Sydney Wade. She and Kingston had both immediately come off of filming Marchlands in which they played mother & daughter. In that very same episode, Moffat had older & younger Canton Delaware played by the real-life father & son Sheppards (who have made a habit of playing both fathers & sons and older/younger incarnations of the same character).
 
2012-09-03 06:59:56 PM
If you look at the longer story arcs. Series 5 was all about the humbling and ultimate redemption for Rory. He starts off as bumbling fool, the butt of the Doctor's jokes and proves his heroism by becoming the Last Centurion. By Series 6. Rory is full Companion, often sorting messes Amy caused. Rory's now a more worthy companion than Amy.If anything Amy's turned into the Gooseberry.

Series 6 also featured the great rise and fall of the Doctor. Running away from, then ultimately accepting his fate.

Amy started out as Mega-biatch from Hell this series. I think she's the one with the Redemption Arc. I think she threw Rory away not because she was sick of him and not because she couldn't have kids. It's because without the excitement of adventures with the Doctor, Amy could never give the LIFE Rory wanted. She needs excitement. She can't go to Upper Leadworth and live with old people.

And even though Rory's changed quite a lot, maybe he's changed too much. After seeing Rory's heroism Rory's not the luckiest boy to have landed Amy. She's the luckiest girl in the world for having landed him. And she is not worthy of him.

Rory does not need someone like Amy, someone who will always see him as the bumbling kid, someone he will always feel like he has to cower to. Rory needs someone who can see him as the Last Centurion and know him from that. That's why she set him free.

Part of the Doctor's humbling is that he had to break Amy's faith in him to save her from the Minotaur. Amy sees the need to break Rory's devotion to him. Rory presumed that he always loved her more than Amy him. He was wrong. That was the Amy and Rory before the Last Centurion. Now Amy loves him more. He just can't see it. Because he's still in the mindset of the snivelling bumble head. of the Kid from Leadworth and he'll always be that way until Rory is able to see the change inside himself. And Amy.

Amy needed the Doctor to bring back that in Rory or she'd have to leave him. How could you live with the man that you love when he can't see who that man is? Any time he's around you alone that man disappears and bumbly Pointy-nose comes back.
 
2012-09-03 07:07:01 PM
OK, I know the mantra, "it's just a show, I should really just relax." But...

How does the Asylum planet fit within the continuity set up by the Time War? In Dalek, the Dalek was certain that it was the only one left in the Universe after scanning for orders. (All of the other Daleks encountered since were either falling through the Time Vortex (The Parting of the Ways), existing in the Void between Universes (Doomsday), or were created by Davros after Dalek Caan rescued him from the Time Lock (Journey's End).) Wouldn't Time-Vortex-Rose have noticed a whole planet of Daleks when she was doing here thing at the end of The Parting of the Ways?)

I thought that the episode was good on first viewing, but little things such as this have started to nag at me since.
 
2012-09-03 07:08:36 PM

HopScotchNSoda:

Yes, he heard her in-her-head voice when transmitted. The other poster's point was that he would presumably recognise that voice come Christmas, just like he and Rose recognised Gwen's face & voice, and he recognised Dodo's face & voice. You said that he only heard it through the transmission. I agreed -- but the transmitted voice that he and everyone else heard is the same voice as the forthcoming companion, which he will presumably recognise.


They could spin that either way. Everyone knows that when they hear their voice on a tape recording it sounds nothing like they imagine it sounds, or what they hear themselves. So the way Oswin imagines she sounds, and what she projected, may be nothing like what she actually sounds like if and when she gets a human body to speak with.

But they could go either way with that. You'd quite possibly recognise the speech pattern and her personality even if the actual voice sounded different.
 
2012-09-03 07:09:52 PM
"...doing HER thing."
 
2012-09-03 07:13:09 PM
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You will now think of Honey Boo Boo every time you watch Dr. Who.
 
2012-09-03 07:18:42 PM
Maybe some day The Doctor will get another non-human companion. That might be a nice change.
 
2012-09-03 07:23:40 PM

sunsawed: If you look at the longer story arcs....

[I'm not going to waste space reposting your whole post]

I agree with you, and thank you for analogising Amy's treatment of Rory to the Doctor's treatment of her in "The God Complex". I had not thought to do that.

There is another thing to keep in mind when looking at Amy & Rory's Doctor-less home-life. Not only did they lose the Doctor and that excitement, but they lost their best mate, Mels. River pops by to see them now and then, but she is running around with the Doctor and by her self. Mels was their closest friend, both of theirs; they hung out together since they were small children; and she's suddenly gone forever. They also don't have any of their families and other friends around anymore, as they have lived in London since the end of "The God Complex". Sure, they can ring them up, unlike Mels, but it's not the same as being able to just pop round to their homes or meet up for a pint. They're all alone (apart for the few weeks they had the Ood butler).

If the Doctor had left them a few names of people they could invite over -- a black couple who are often out of town but who can certainly relate to them, a kindly old man who lives only a few miles away and understands, a pair of teens who are almost as close by as he is and who are now dealing with a similar loss, a philanthropist & pyromaniac in her late 30s -- then perhaps the Ponds would not be in quite as dire straights.
 
2012-09-03 07:28:12 PM

BizarreMan: I don't understand how someone can abandon a relationship based on whether the other person can or cannot have children. Children may be important, but do you stop loving someone because they can't provide you with one? You move on, enjoy your life in other ways.

//My sister lost a boyfriend because she couldn't bear him children (the son he "needed" to carry on his name).
//Six months later he was married and had a baby on the way.
//7 daughters later his wife finally gave birth to a son.
//Son died when he was 6 months old.
//Karma is a major biatch.
//My sister didn't lose out on anything with him. He was a dick.


You are a pretty sick F&&K for calling that karma.
Oh no, your sister's boyfriend wanted something in life she could never give him and he didn't want to live a life without the opportunity to do something he wanted to do. How farking tragic. I hope she got over it better than you did.
 
2012-09-03 07:39:34 PM

ZeroCorpse: Maybe some day The Doctor will get another non-human companion. That might be a nice change.


Do you mean a non-human companion who looks perfectly human like Susan, Romana, Nyssa, Adric, Turlough, Astrid, and hybrid-human River, who can look at humanity from an outsider's perspective; or do you mean a non-human-looking companion like Kamelion, K-9, and quasi-companion Jabe, for whom terrestrial stories would be problematic?
 
2012-09-03 07:45:37 PM

HopScotchNSoda:
If the Doctor had left them a few names of people they could invite over -- a black couple who are often out of town but who can certainly relate to them, a kindly old man who lives only a few miles away and understands, a pair of teens who are almost as close by as he is and who are now dealing with a similar loss, a philanthropist & pyromaniac in her late 30s -- then perhaps the Ponds would not be in quite as dire straights.


It would certainly make sense for ex companions to get together. Who else could they ever talk to about their experience? Who else could help them readjust to life back on Earth. It's a shock for people who leave the army for civilian life, and this would be a hundred times worse, so a support group would be a great idea.

Nice to see the article quote Steven Moffat giving Dollhouse and Joss Whedon a shoutout. RTD thought Whedon was a great writer as well, and he has clearly influenced both DW showrunners. Whedon arguably led the way in the long game, dropping hints to Dawn arriving two seasons before she did for example.
 
2012-09-03 07:56:51 PM

HopScotchNSoda: non-human companion


Could have a Star Trek-style "we have funny noses" alien. Or hell, just slap some facepaint on, like Dorium.

Useless Destruction of Exergy: How does the Asylum planet fit within the continuity set up by the Time War?


The Daleks from "Victory" ran off to rebuild the Dalek civilization. We can assume that they were successful, although this new civilization seems far more... genteel than the typical Dalek civilization.
 
2012-09-03 08:00:25 PM

t3knomanser: HopScotchNSoda: non-human companion

Could have a Star Trek-style "we have funny noses" alien. Or hell, just slap some facepaint on, like Dorium.

Useless Destruction of Exergy: How does the Asylum planet fit within the continuity set up by the Time War?

The Daleks from "Victory" ran off to rebuild the Dalek civilization. We can assume that they were successful, although this new civilization seems far more... genteel than the typical Dalek civilization.


They have a Parliament, presumably so everyone can get together just to yell EX-TER-MI-NATE! as the answer to every question posed.
 
2012-09-03 08:01:39 PM

HopScotchNSoda: a philanthropist & pyromaniac in her late 30s

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2012-09-03 08:07:31 PM

t3knomanser:

Useless Destruction of Exergy: How does the Asylum planet fit within the continuity set up by the Time War?

The Daleks from "Victory" ran off to rebuild the Dalek civilization. We can assume that they were successful, although this new civilization seems far more... genteel than the typical Dalek civilization.


Yeah, but the Asylum was filled with survivors of encounters with the Doctor from Vulcan, Exxilon, Spiridon, and other pre-Time War adventures (not to mention examples of Daleks from old stories like the Special Weapons Dalek), all of which predated the Time War, unless for some timey wimey reason Daleks from the shows "current" time went back and fought older versions of the Doctor.
 
2012-09-03 08:13:03 PM

Mad_Radhu: Yeah, but the Asylum was filled with survivors of encounters with the Doctor from Vulcan, Exxilon, Spiridon, and other pre-Time War adventures


Intensive care was filled with the survivors of the Doctor, not the whole planet. The most insane and dangerous Dalek of them all was guarded by those survivors.
 
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