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(CNN)   Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley says Americans are not better off four years later - and he should know, he's a Democrat   (cnn.com) divider line 122
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2012-09-03 01:13:02 PM

zetar: Sorry for the long post:

Are we better off than we were 4 years ago? Here's what President Obama has done in the last 4 years originally from here):

1. Saved the banks
2. Brought the stock market from 6,500K to 13,000K
3. Saved GM
4. Repealed DADT
5. Ordered a Mini Dream Act
6. Created 4.3 million jobs
7. 27- straight months of private-sector job growth
8. Passed Healthcare
9. Ended the war in Iraq
10. Drawing down from Afghanistan
11. Doubled the Number of Border Security Agents
12. Appointed First Hispanic Justice
13. Restored America's Standing in the world
14. Dealt effectively with the BP Oil Spill
15. Dealt effectively with the Pirate Crisis
16. Dealt effectively with H1N1
17. Kept America Safe
18. Passed Financial Reform
19. Passed a Credit-Card Bill of Rights
20. Passed Equal Pay for Women
21. Nearly Wiped out Al Qaeda
22. Killed OBL
23. Added Eight-yeas of solvency to Medicare
24. Quit smoking
25. And got a dog

P.S. On a personal note: I also quit smoking and we got Sam dog. Also I got a PhD. So, yeah, we're a lot better off than under Bush.


No, no see all of this was passed by the brave, courageous Republicans by just repeatedly refusing to compromise and providing ALL Americans with bootstraps. Or wait, this is all part of a normal recovery and President Obama had nothing to do with it. Or wait, it all happened IN SPITE of President Obama being the greatest threat to the greatest nation on the greatest planet in the universe!

/or wait...
 
2012-09-03 01:14:49 PM

coeyagi: The question is bullshiat. Why not ask "are you better off than about March 2009 when the economy and unemployment were at their shiattiest? and 0bama didn't have a clue about what he was doing " .


He didn't have a clue then, and after two Summer's of Recovery, shovel ready jobs bills, claims that spending a ton of money will prevent unemployment above 8%, lot of people giving up in the economy, huge spike in gas pricessince he started, he still doesn't have a clue about what to do, except for asking for Romney's tax returns and say he hasn't done a good job communicating.
 
2012-09-03 01:20:15 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: huge spike in gas pricessince he started


Dishonest talking point is dishonest.

Would you rather be in the deep recession we were in January 2009 that caused us to have those low gas prices? Or do you want to go back to the previous summer when gas was around $4/gallon UNDER BUSH?
 
2012-09-03 01:21:00 PM

zetar: 6. Created 4.3 million jobs


So tell me how does that make sense?

Unemployment is higher now than when he took office (8.3 vs. 7.8)
More people have left the workforce since he left office.

Conclusion: he created over 4 million jobs.
 
2012-09-03 01:32:06 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: coeyagi: The question is bullshiat. Why not ask "are you better off than about March 2009 when the economy and unemployment were at their shiattiest? and 0bama didn't have a clue about what he was doing " .

He didn't have a clue then, and after two Summer's of Recovery, shovel ready jobs bills, claims that spending a ton of money will prevent unemployment above 8%, lot of people giving up in the economy, huge spike in gas pricessince he started, he still doesn't have a clue about what to do, except for asking for Romney's tax returns and say he hasn't done a good job communicating.


He should totally be worrying about abortion, gay marriage, non-existent vote fraud, and sharia law.
 
Kiz
2012-09-03 01:47:25 PM
The economy is still shrinking 8% per year? Funny, I hadn't noticed.
 
2012-09-03 01:59:00 PM

balloot: The thing is, he's telling the truth. Obama took over on a severe downward slide in the economy, and it took a solid year to simply stop the bleeding. We're not quite back to pre-recession levels yet.

With that being said, Dems probably should have a more politically palatable answer to this question. :)


It's really sad that the average voter can't understand something that simple. Of course, the solution is to do away with public education, and imprison all those union thug teachers that failed the children.

/only first sentence was serious
//sad that I have to clarify since so many people would seriously type that nonsense
 
2012-09-03 01:59:10 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: zetar: 6. Created 4.3 million jobs

So tell me how does that make sense?

Unemployment is higher now than when he took office (8.3 vs. 7.8)
More people have left the workforce since he left office.

Conclusion: he created over 4 million jobs.


I like how you ask what it means, and then just make up your own answer.
 
2012-09-03 02:21:17 PM
The actual question is: "Are you better off than you were TWELVE years ago?"
 
2012-09-03 02:24:12 PM

balloot: The thing is, he's telling the truth. Obama took over on a severe downward slide in the economy, and it took a solid year to simply stop the bleeding. We're not quite back to pre-recession levels yet.

With that being said, Dems probably should have a more politically palatable answer to this question. :)


Actually the economy had already bottomed out before Obama took office.
 
2012-09-03 02:26:23 PM
I'll just leave this from about 6 posts down the list -- Imagine your house burns and you are grateful that the firefighters come out and extinguish the fire. Do you ask, "Am I better off than before the fire?"
 
2012-09-03 02:29:44 PM
Oh, you guys - stop rehashing reagan's bullshiat. You're now on to recycling his questions. You got nothin'.
 
2012-09-03 02:36:54 PM

insano: I'll just leave this from about 6 posts down the list -- Imagine your house burns and you are grateful that the firefighters come out and extinguish the fire. Do you ask, "Am I better off than before the fire?"


No.
Vote Arsonist.
 
2012-09-03 02:49:49 PM
I have a brother-in-law who is doing MUCH better now than 4 years ago. New job, promotions and raises. His 401k has exploded. House is paid for now and 3 cars in the garage.
He'll be voting Republican again, while blaming Obama for making things worse.
 
2012-09-03 02:53:25 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Congress has a lower approval rating than the president.


Congress has a lower approval rating than herpes.
 
2012-09-03 03:01:17 PM

s1ugg0: [firegeezer.com image 502x305]

Why haven't you slackers not made this house better than it was 4 years ago? Let's see your birth certificates you socialists!


So how long do you need then? 4, 8, 10, 20 years?

/it's not FAIR when the democrat party is held accountable!!!
 
2012-09-03 03:03:08 PM
Maybe he's a "lifelong Democrat" like those Republican women who aren't gonna vote for Romney, nosiree.
 
2012-09-03 03:04:59 PM
readjack.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-03 03:07:23 PM
You mean to tell me that it's harder to rebuild an institution than it was to tear it down? No way!
 
2012-09-03 03:17:08 PM

TheJoe03: [readjack.files.wordpress.com image 445x667]


That's a warning from David Simon America - heed it.
 
2012-09-03 03:25:52 PM
Bush injured America.

Obama has stopped the bleeding.

But the Republicans won't let the wound heal.
 
2012-09-03 03:38:24 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: zetar: 6. Created 4.3 million jobs

So tell me how does that make sense?

Unemployment is higher now than when he took office (8.3 vs. 7.8)
More people have left the workforce since he left office.

Conclusion: he created over 4 million jobs.


Spoiler alert: When old people retire, they leave the workforce pool.
 
2012-09-03 03:46:01 PM
I wish the DNC had the balls to blame the GOP's obstructionism for why the economy is farked.

instead we have Obama promising to still try to negotiate with these economic terrorists.
 
2012-09-03 03:46:02 PM
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2012-09-03 03:51:23 PM

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: huge spike in gas pricessince he started

Dishonest talking point is dishonest.

Would you rather be in the deep recession we were in January 2009 that caused us to have those low gas prices? Or do you want to go back to the previous summer when gas was around $4/gallon UNDER BUSH?


not to mention that the US exports gasoline.

increasing the amount of oil supply (ie the right's derping on drilling permits and keystone) will not drive down gasoline prices. you need to increase refining capacity to do that. and even if that's done, it would take years to bring that capacity online.
 
2012-09-03 03:57:47 PM

vernonFL: As a Baltimore resident, O'Malley is okay. The best things about him are that he is young and good looking and plays in a celtic rock band. Other than that he is just meh.


See, this is why Ron Paul lost.
 
2012-09-03 04:00:05 PM
 
2012-09-03 04:02:01 PM

dumbobruni: I wish the DNC had the balls to blame the GOP's obstructionism for why the economy is farked.

instead we have Obama promising to still try to negotiate with these economic terrorists.


Let's think about this: What would John Q. Averagevoter (a well-documented dumbass) rather hear? A detailed and nuanced breakdown of why the broken legislative process won't open his factory back up or a calm, reasonable paternal figure tell him it's going to be okay (while making no mention at all of all the people who want to make sure it's NOT going to be okay to further their own careers)?
 
2012-09-03 04:04:37 PM

theknuckler_33: Buffalo77: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x480]

29 consecutive months of private sector job creation.

[www.npr.org image 462x360]

Private sector job creation returned in February of 2010, the 13th month of President Obama's term. Since then, the economy has added 4.3 million private sector jobs, a 4 percent increase.

Under President Bush, the economy stopped shedding private sector jobs in July of 2003, fully 30 months into his administration. From that point until May of 2004, the economy added just 1.5 million private sector jobs, an increase of only 1.4 percent.

But there is one area of job creation where President Bush clearly outshines President Obama: the public sector. Public sector employment is now down 608,000 workers since January 2009, a 2.7 percent decline. At the same point in President Bush's term, public sector employment was up 3.7 percent.


That graph should be all Obama needs to win reelection--if the public ever gets a chance to see it. I wonder if there's anything in the debate rules to prevent him from blowing it up and hanging a copy from his lectern for the whole 90 minutes.
 
2012-09-03 04:13:53 PM

The Great EZE: theknuckler_33: Buffalo77: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x480]

29 consecutive months of private sector job creation.

[www.npr.org image 462x360]

Private sector job creation returned in February of 2010, the 13th month of President Obama's term. Since then, the economy has added 4.3 million private sector jobs, a 4 percent increase.

Under President Bush, the economy stopped shedding private sector jobs in July of 2003, fully 30 months into his administration. From that point until May of 2004, the economy added just 1.5 million private sector jobs, an increase of only 1.4 percent.

But there is one area of job creation where President Bush clearly outshines President Obama: the public sector. Public sector employment is now down 608,000 workers since January 2009, a 2.7 percent decline. At the same point in President Bush's term, public sector employment was up 3.7 percent.

That graph should be all Obama needs to win reelection--if the public ever gets a chance to see it. I wonder if there's anything in the debate rules to prevent him from blowing it up and hanging a copy from his lectern for the whole 90 minutes.


While I don't know if the chart will be displayed, I think this fact will be repeated many times during the DNC.
 
2012-09-03 04:15:59 PM
I know one American that is not better off than he was four years ago....Barack Obama. At least he says he's American.
 
2012-09-03 04:18:55 PM
Marty seems anxious to take on Andrew Cuomo and Hillary Clinton for the DNC nomination in 2016.
 
2012-09-03 04:40:18 PM
BO: "Look people, it's going to take more than 4 years to fix the fark ups of the previous administrations. Y'all will have to chill the fark out, I got this."

GOP: "Passing the buck!! Dodging blame!! Take some responsibility for your failures, Ohibemuslima."

BO: "...Dumbasses".

GOP: "Insulting political rhetoric! Bringing down the level of discourse!"
 
2012-09-03 04:56:03 PM
beta_plus (favorite: Farkied in red. Ought to be brown.): democrat party

DRINK!
 
2012-09-03 05:10:16 PM

doyner: insano: I'll just leave this from about 6 posts down the list -- Imagine your house burns and you are grateful that the firefighters come out and extinguish the fire. Do you ask, "Am I better off than before the fire?"

No.
Vote Arsonist.


Socialist commie firefighters.
 
2012-09-03 05:10:48 PM
It took Atta & Co. about 3½ hours to bring down the Twin Towers. 11 years later, the new World Trade Center is still not complete. By Publican "logic", we should all vote for al Qaeda.
 
2012-09-03 05:28:29 PM

karnal: I know one American that is not better off than he was four years ago....Barack Obama. At least he says he's American.


dude, you can't just stroll in here and drop a steaming turd like that.
 
2012-09-03 05:28:49 PM
Like I'm going to listen to anything I read on the Clinton News Network or the Marxist Socialist National Broatcasting Company.
 
2012-09-03 05:29:06 PM

Bob16: The Dems had a lock on government for almost 20 years when FDR was in office and he was clearly showing the working class that he was on their side.

Meanwhile todays pretend Dems (aka moderate conservatives) got killed only 2 years after their take over.

Gee i wonder if theres a lesson to be learned...


Yeah, it's that whatever Fox News is doing*, it sure works.

*What they're doing includes lying, taking sh*t out of context, spinning, propagandizing or anything to be the full-fledged media arm of the GOP. They should just change "red" to whatever color "least-informed viewer" is, at least until (don't hold your breath) the GOP becomes sane again.
 
2012-09-03 05:31:55 PM

Buffalo77: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x480]


Citation needed. I want the list. Does it equal more than 3 million*? If so, congrats, you have a gold star for the day.

*After about 1300 days in office, that would be about 2500 excuses a day, or about 1000 per hour, or about 160 per minute. Really?
 
2012-09-03 05:31:59 PM

32oz High Life: Like I'm going to listen to anything I read on the Clinton News Network or the Marxist Socialist National Broatcasting Company.


No, you should make sure to get all yur news from the Fascism Obfuscation and Xenophobia Network
 
2012-09-03 05:34:33 PM

32oz High Life: Like I'm going to listen to anything I read on the Clinton News Network or the Marxist Socialist National Broatcasting Company.


Better than Festering Overt Xenophobia. And congrats, least-informed viewer, your food pyramid must consist of paste, boogers and patriot eagle tears.
 
2012-09-03 05:35:38 PM

propasaurus: 32oz High Life: Like I'm going to listen to anything I read on the Clinton News Network or the Marxist Socialist National Broatcasting Company.

No, you should make sure to get all yur news from the Fascism Obfuscation and Xenophobia Network


coeyagi: 32oz High Life: Like I'm going to listen to anything I read on the Clinton News Network or the Marxist Socialist National Broatcasting Company.

Better than Festering Overt Xenophobia. And congrats, least-informed viewer, your food pyramid must consist of paste, boogers and patriot eagle tears.


They really need to make more words that start with X.
 
2012-09-03 05:41:14 PM

Buffalo77: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x480]


This coming from somebody who's greatest accomplishment was a bridge collapsing.
 
2012-09-03 05:42:11 PM

Bob16: The 2010 republican landslide showed how much the public thought they were better off and things are not much better today.

Funny how the latino calvary that is suppose to ride to the rescue and crush conservatives for eternity didn't come through then.

Keep farkin that chicken Dems.


Aww, look at how cute the little troll is. Let me get some nickels and toss you some pellets.
 
2012-09-03 05:48:13 PM

skykid: Buffalo77: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x480]

This coming from somebody who's greatest accomplishment was a bridge collapsing.


Churches and businesses should have sprung for new bridges in Minnesota, not government.
 
2012-09-03 05:57:01 PM

Ishkur: Bush injured America.

Obama has stopped the bleeding.

But the Republicans won't let the wound heal.


You call that stopping the bleeding? If we rub some salt in it, then we'll get some REAL results!
 
2012-09-03 06:07:51 PM

coeyagi: skykid: Buffalo77: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x480]

This coming from somebody who's greatest accomplishment was a bridge collapsing.

Churches and businesses should have sprung for new bridges in Minnesota, not government.


I imagine the lack of government oversight may have been part of the problem in the first place.
 
2012-09-03 06:17:16 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: Ishkur: Bush injured America.

Obama has stopped the bleeding.

But the Republicans won't let the wound heal.

You call that stopping the bleeding? If we rub some salt in it, then we'll get some REAL results!


He stopped the bleeding by cutting higher on the artery
 
2012-09-03 06:18:10 PM
I am doing WAY better than I was 4 years ago.

I make almost $10 an hour more than I did 4 years ago.

I have use of a company vehicle, and the company I work for covers gas, maintenance and insurance saving me a buttload of cash since I don't have to pay the 21st century robber barons (Oil Companies) out of my own pocket, and save a ton of mileage on my personal vehicles.

I live in the SF Bay Area, am a tradesman, and we are experiencing a major boom right now. If you are in the trades, can work in this area and want a job you already have one.

So yeah, things are a little better than they were 4 years ago.
 
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