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(CNN)   Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley says Americans are not better off four years later - and he should know, he's a Democrat   (cnn.com) divider line 122
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2012-09-03 11:54:30 AM
As a Baltimore resident, O'Malley is okay. The best things about him are that he is young and good looking and plays in a celtic rock band. Other than that he is just meh.
 
2012-09-03 12:15:37 PM
Congress has a lower approval rating than the president.
 
2012-09-03 12:17:44 PM
This automatically means

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is President and Obama has to harvest beets at Shrute Farms to pay off his student loan debts.
 
2012-09-03 12:17:53 PM
The thing is, he's telling the truth. Obama took over on a severe downward slide in the economy, and it took a solid year to simply stop the bleeding. We're not quite back to pre-recession levels yet.

With that being said, Dems probably should have a more politically palatable answer to this question. :)
 
2012-09-03 12:19:51 PM
Americans aren't better off than they were four years ago.

If your house burned down, and after four years of trying to rebuild, you only have a partially standing house because half of your team of hired construction workers kept ripping out the nails from the support beams to spite the other half and the foreman, then you'd have a tough time saying "Yes" to that question.
 
2012-09-03 12:21:38 PM
4 years ago was September 3, 2008. The crash happened in October. I agree with him.
 
2012-09-03 12:21:41 PM
the thing is, the Democrats are living in FANTASYLAND.

You can't keep giving money back to your loyal voters when the country is deep in debt.
I'm watching the Governor of Montana (D) on TV talking about how we need to get back to "budget surpluses" so he can give some money back to hard working voters. Not pay down debt, give some more money to voters. Its not about Ds and Rs on this issue, but as far as I can tell the Ds are much worse.

If we keep electing people like this we will never pay down the debt and essentially younger generations will end up being wage slaves to older generations.
 
2012-09-03 12:22:46 PM
My life has actually never been better.
 
2012-09-03 12:23:06 PM
The question is bullshiat. Why not ask "are you better off than about March 2009 when the economy and unemployment were at their shiattiest?" The answer, despite some "Not so Cool Story, Bro"s, should be yes.
 
2012-09-03 12:23:13 PM

Animatronik: the thing is, the Democrats are living in FANTASYLAND.

You can't keep giving money back to your loyal voters when the country is deep in debt.
I'm watching the Governor of Montana (D) on TV talking about how we need to get back to "budget surpluses" so he can give some money back to hard working voters. Not pay down debt, give some more money to voters. Its not about Ds and Rs on this issue, but as far as I can tell the Ds are much worse.

If we keep electing people like this we will never pay down the debt and essentially younger generations will end up being wage slaves to older generations.


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2012-09-03 12:23:31 PM

Animatronik: the thing is, the Democrats are living in FANTASYLAND.

You can't keep giving money back to your loyal voters when the country is deep in debt.
I'm watching the Governor of Montana (D) on TV talking about how we need to get back to "budget surpluses" so he can give some money back to hard working voters. Not pay down debt, give some more money to voters. Its not about Ds and Rs on this issue, but as far as I can tell the Ds are much worse.

If we keep electing people like this we will never pay down the debt and essentially younger generations will end up being wage slaves to older generations.


so vote for the guy that wants to eliminate capital gains taxes.
 
2012-09-03 12:23:48 PM
This is why it doesn't pay to actually give an adult answer to a question if you're a politician in America. He's clearly making a point that is in favor of the president, but, of course, the Republicans are distorting what he said for their own advantage, and the media is abetting them.
 
2012-09-03 12:24:00 PM

Animatronik: the things is... word salad


Please don't respond.
 
2012-09-03 12:24:36 PM

Animatronik: I'm watching the Governor of Montana (D) on TV talking about how we need to get back to "budget surpluses" so he can give some money back to hard working voters. Not pay down debt, give some more money to voters


What debt does Montana have? We have a surplus. The money CAME FROM THE VOTERS.

Or are you suggesting Montana send it's surplus the the Federal government? I really can't figure out what the fark you are saying, other than "Dems bad for wanting to give back money the people paid in".
 
2012-09-03 12:24:55 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Congress has a lower approval rating than the president.


Is that statement supposed to have an impact? The President has a perfectly normal approval rating, Congress has lower popular regard than legitimate rape.
 
2012-09-03 12:25:45 PM
O'Malley and Maryland democrats were against casinos and slots in maryland while Ehrlich (R) was Governor and wanted to legalize them in the state. They blocked casinos and slots the entire Ehrlich tenure. Then when O'Malley was elected, Maryland dems approved casinos and slots and now they are taking all the credit for legalizing gambling in Maryland.

/table games now allowed in maryland.
 
2012-09-03 12:30:14 PM
I'm no better off than I was 12 years ago. Whats his point?
 
2012-09-03 12:30:52 PM

Animatronik: You can't keep giving money back to your loyal voters when the country is deep in debt.


but you can give it to rich people am I right?
 
2012-09-03 12:31:21 PM

SlothB77: O'Malley and Maryland democrats were against casinos and slots in maryland while Ehrlich (R) was Governor and wanted to legalize them in the state. They blocked casinos and slots the entire Ehrlich tenure. Then when O'Malley was elected, Maryland dems approved casinos and slots and now they are taking all the credit for legalizing gambling in Maryland.

/table games now allowed in maryland.


Actually, the only reason they legalized casino gambling in Maryland was because of the Referendum that passed in 08.
 
2012-09-03 12:31:38 PM
And 24 hours later after getting a phone call from team obummer, he says we are better off than 4 years ago. So that, settles that.
 
2012-09-03 12:32:33 PM
Wrong question after the depression (see link ) that George "screw up" Bush sent us into

The question is did Obama try hard enough to make you better off. The answer to that is clearly no and the proof would be a comparison to FDRs big government make work programs for the masses. FDR tried to make you better off. Obama did not.
_________________________________________________

IMF Declares America To Be In A Depression Two Weeks After Bush Left Office

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a6aaWZ8ab8yU
 
2012-09-03 12:34:29 PM

balloot: The thing is, he's telling the truth. Obama took over on a severe downward slide in the economy, and it took a solid year to simply stop the bleeding. We're not quite back to pre-recession levels yet.

With that being said, Dems probably should have a more politically palatable answer to this question. :)


Bingo. Came to say this. Unemployment rose for a year after Obama became president not because Obama caused it to go up but because the shiat was still hitting the fan from the Bush illegitimacy. However, speaking as someone who saw major layoffs in my company during and immediately after the initial impact of the financial crisis, I would have to say, yes, our business is better off than it was four year ago. For me personally, a wash, which given the severity of the current depression, is not all that terrible. The fault still firmly lies at the foot of the repub Party, which for some reason wanted this mess (they've certainly done everything in their power to prolong it), or at least expected to empty the till and get outta town while the rest of the country was looking elsewhere.
 
2012-09-03 12:35:35 PM

Animatronik: the thing is, the Democrats are living in FANTASYLAND.

You can't keep giving money back to your loyal voters when the country is deep in debt.
I'm watching the Governor of Montana (D) on TV talking about how we need to get back to "budget surpluses" so he can give some money back to hard working voters. Not pay down debt, give some more money to voters. Its not about Ds and Rs on this issue, but as far as I can tell the Ds are much worse.

If we keep electing people like this we will never pay down the debt and essentially younger generations will end up being wage slaves to older generations.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-03 12:35:37 PM
Ryan: "Without a change in leadership, why would the next four years be any different from the last four years?"

One prominent Democrat said the answer to the question was "no."


Since when is a "why" question answered yes/no?

"But that's not the question of this election," Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said on CBS on Sunday. "The question, without a doubt, we are not as well off as we were before George Bush brought us the Bush job losses, the Bush recession, the Bush deficits, the series of desert wars -- charged for the first time to credit cards, the national credit cards."

Oh yea, O'Malley really fileted Obama there.

Republicans pounced on O'Malley's admission, with Ryan issuing a statement saying it was proof that Obama's policies aren't working.

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2012-09-03 12:35:59 PM
Anecdote is not data, but I'm much better off than I was 4 years ago. Four years ago I was unemployed with a mortgage. Now I'm employed (although my company just did a round of layoffs), and my house is payed off.
 
2012-09-03 12:36:13 PM
Sorry for the long post:

Are we better off than we were 4 years ago? Here's what President Obama has done in the last 4 years originally from here):

1. Saved the banks
2. Brought the stock market from 6,500K to 13,000K
3. Saved GM
4. Repealed DADT
5. Ordered a Mini Dream Act
6. Created 4.3 million jobs
7. 27- straight months of private-sector job growth
8. Passed Healthcare
9. Ended the war in Iraq
10. Drawing down from Afghanistan
11. Doubled the Number of Border Security Agents
12. Appointed First Hispanic Justice
13. Restored America's Standing in the world
14. Dealt effectively with the BP Oil Spill
15. Dealt effectively with the Pirate Crisis
16. Dealt effectively with H1N1
17. Kept America Safe
18. Passed Financial Reform
19. Passed a Credit-Card Bill of Rights
20. Passed Equal Pay for Women
21. Nearly Wiped out Al Qaeda
22. Killed OBL
23. Added Eight-yeas of solvency to Medicare
24. Quit smoking
25. And got a dog

P.S. On a personal note: I also quit smoking and we got Sam dog. Also I got a PhD. So, yeah, we're a lot better off than under Bush.
 
2012-09-03 12:36:21 PM

Codenamechaz: then you'd have a tough time saying "Yes" to that question.


It's true. And now we get to hire a new construction company. We have two bids. One side submits a bid to complete the house. The other wants to burn down the partially built structure, piss into the ashes, and then let the boss of the construction company keep all the remaining money from the fire insurance while you live in a shack worthy of a West African shanty town.

Obviously the solution is the latter.
 
2012-09-03 12:36:39 PM
Four years ago, I was a college student staring into the jaws of a complete economic collapse, and wondering if there would be any jobs left when I graduated. Now, I have a decent job, my student loans are well under control, and I just bought a new car this weekend. On top of that, my father can now get health insurance despite having a bad back, he and my stepmother are hoping to retire into a non-gutted social security system on top of their much-recovered stock portfolio, and my entire family has seen our taxes go down in spite of what we're constantly told.

So, yeah. If we're going by anecdotes, I'd say things have gotten better for me and mine in the last four years. I guess I know who I'm voting for in November then.
 
2012-09-03 12:37:05 PM
I think the US is in a much better position going forward today compared to 4 years ago even if it's not "better". Obama hasn't done a bad job.

Bob16: Wrong question after the depression (see link ) that George "screw up" Bush sent us into


I think it was just payback for the recession that Clinton handed him
 
2012-09-03 12:37:09 PM

Bob16: Wrong question after the depression (see link ) that George "screw up" Bush sent us into

The question is did Obama try hard enough to make you better off. The answer to that is clearly no and the proof would be a comparison to FDRs big government make work programs for the masses. FDR tried to make you better off. Obama did not.
_________________________________________________

IMF Declares America To Be In A Depression Two Weeks After Bush Left Office

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a6aaWZ8ab8yU


How much of that is on Obama and how much of that is the Republican mantra of "Make him a one-term president at all costs."
 
2012-09-03 12:37:17 PM

Hobodeluxe: Animatronik: You can't keep giving money back to your loyal voters when the country is deep in debt.

but you can give it to rich people am I right?


The rich people already have it.
 
2012-09-03 12:40:25 PM
Four years ago i was bundling toxic assets and making a fortune... now my only pleasure is denying qualified people bank loans. Thanks Fartbama.
 
2012-09-03 12:42:04 PM

Tusz: Four years ago, I was a college student staring into the jaws of a complete economic collapse, and wondering if there would be any jobs left when I graduated. Now, I have a decent job, my student loans are well under control, and I just bought a new car this weekend. On top of that, my father can now get health insurance despite having a bad back, he and my stepmother are hoping to retire into a non-gutted social security system on top of their much-recovered stock portfolio, and my entire family has seen our taxes go down in spite of what we're constantly told.

So, yeah. If we're going by anecdotes, I'd say things have gotten better for me and mine in the last four years. I guess I know who I'm voting for in November then.


You're outnumbered and they know who they will be voting for in November as well.
 
2012-09-03 12:42:20 PM
I changed jobs three years ago and have made more money each year since then.

I'm better off.

Sure, the people that lost their jobs because people like Romney liquidated their companies and his fellow venture capitalists on Wall Street crashed the economy four years ago aren't better off. But you can't really pin that on Obama now, can you. Well, unless you are a partisan shill of course. But there aren't many of those here.

Snort!
 
2012-09-03 12:43:58 PM
The Banksters are better off

Wall Street is better off

The health insurance companies have a captive customer base now so they sure are better off.

Obama went to bat for all of them and made sure they were better off.

But the O-bots want you to stop blaming Obama because Joe six pack isn't better off. Their ass-kissing analysis boils down to "you joe six packs have an unrealistic expectation of what Obama can do for you".

They are just like the Bush ass kissers.
 
2012-09-03 12:45:24 PM

Vindibudd: Tusz: Four years ago, I was a college student staring into the jaws of a complete economic collapse, and wondering if there would be any jobs left when I graduated. Now, I have a decent job, my student loans are well under control, and I just bought a new car this weekend. On top of that, my father can now get health insurance despite having a bad back, he and my stepmother are hoping to retire into a non-gutted social security system on top of their much-recovered stock portfolio, and my entire family has seen our taxes go down in spite of what we're constantly told.

So, yeah. If we're going by anecdotes, I'd say things have gotten better for me and mine in the last four years. I guess I know who I'm voting for in November then.

You're outnumbered and they know who they will be voting for in November as well.


Brought to you by the department of pulling things our of your arse.
 
2012-09-03 12:45:45 PM
The reason why we're not back to roaring prosperity? Because Barack Obama governs like a Republican.

/He's a damn good one, but a Republican nonetheless
 
2012-09-03 12:45:54 PM
firegeezer.com

Why haven't you slackers not made this house better than it was 4 years ago? Let's see your birth certificates you socialists!
 
2012-09-03 12:47:32 PM

Tor_Eckman: I changed jobs three years ago and have made more money each year since then.

I'm better off.

Sure, the people that lost their jobs because people like Romney liquidated their companies and his fellow venture capitalists on Wall Street crashed the economy four years ago aren't better off. But you can't really pin that on Obama now, can you. Well, unless you are a partisan shill of course.


And I didn't realize I was holding a mirror up to you until just now.
 
2012-09-03 12:48:30 PM
MOM is pushing hard for 2016. I hope it comes back to bite him in the ass.
 
2012-09-03 12:51:11 PM

Bob16: The Banksters are better off

Wall Street is better off

The health insurance companies have a captive customer base now so they sure are better off.

Obama went to bat for all of them and made sure they were better off.

But the O-bots want you to stop blaming Obama because Joe six pack isn't better off. Their ass-kissing analysis boils down to "you joe six packs have an unrealistic expectation of what Obama can do for you".

They are just like the Bush ass kissers.


But I bet you still voted for Dubya.
 
2012-09-03 12:54:16 PM

Bob16: The Banksters are better off

Wall Street is better off


So cut the capital gains tax and maybe the Job Creators® will start creating jobs.

The health insurance companies have a captive customer base now so they sure are better off.

But single payer is zOMG SOOOOOOOCIALISM!

Obama went to bat for all of them and made sure they were better off.

But the O-bots want you to stop blaming Obama because Joe six pack isn't better off. Their ass-kissing analysis boils down to "you joe six packs have an unrealistic expectation of what Obama can do for you".

They are just like the Bush ass kissers.


So vote Republican.
 
2012-09-03 12:55:56 PM
The 2010 republican landslide showed how much the public thought they were better off and things are not much better today.

Funny how the latino calvary that is suppose to ride to the rescue and crush conservatives for eternity didn't come through then.

Keep farkin that chicken Dems.
 
2012-09-03 12:56:03 PM
Well that depends on how you view better. During the Bush administration I got two poorly planned and executed wars, one of which was definitely unnecessary and religious nuts dictating foreign policy because of warrior Jesus coming back to slay the unbelievers. The bar was set at basically not trying to bring about the end of the world with idiotic wars. Although the bar may be set low, with Republicans praying for war with Iran I'd say we are better off with a Democrat in the white house.
 
2012-09-03 01:03:12 PM

mediablitz: Animatronik: I'm watching the Governor of Montana (D) on TV talking about how we need to get back to "budget surpluses" so he can give some money back to hard working voters. Not pay down debt, give some more money to voters

What debt does Montana have? We have a surplus. The money CAME FROM THE VOTERS.

Or are you suggesting Montana send it's surplus the the Federal government? I really can't figure out what the fark you are saying, other than "Dems bad for wanting to give back money the people paid in".


Yeah, giving state surpluses back to the citizens is only good when a Republican governor does it.
 
2012-09-03 01:06:34 PM

balloot: The thing is, he's telling the truth. Obama took over on a severe downward slide in the economy, and it took a solid year to simply stop the bleeding. We're not quite back to pre-recession levels yet.

With that being said, Dems probably should have a more politically palatable answer to this question. :)


When he took over the financial world was about to end. We were hemorrhaging jobs by the millions. We were at war in Iraq. Osama was on the loose. GM was going down the tubes. If you had a pre-existing condition, you couldn't get health insurance. GWB was our president.

Things are definitely better today then they were in January of 2009. Demonstrably so.
 
2012-09-03 01:06:45 PM

zetar: Sorry for the long post:

Are we better off than we were 4 years ago? Here's what President Obama has done in the last 4 years originally from here):

1. Saved the banks
2. Brought the stock market from 6,500K to 13,000K
3. Saved GM
4. Repealed DADT
5. Ordered a Mini Dream Act
6. Created 4.3 million jobs
7. 27- straight months of private-sector job growth
8. Passed Healthcare
9. Ended the war in Iraq
10. Drawing down from Afghanistan
11. Doubled the Number of Border Security Agents
12. Appointed First Hispanic Justice
13. Restored America's Standing in the world
14. Dealt effectively with the BP Oil Spill
15. Dealt effectively with the Pirate Crisis
16. Dealt effectively with H1N1
17. Kept America Safe
18. Passed Financial Reform
19. Passed a Credit-Card Bill of Rights
20. Passed Equal Pay for Women
21. Nearly Wiped out Al Qaeda
22. Killed OBL
23. Added Eight-yeas of solvency to Medicare
24. Quit smoking
25. And got a dog

P.S. On a personal note: I also quit smoking and we got Sam dog. Also I got a PhD. So, yeah, we're a lot better off than under Bush.


Republican obstructionism:

1. Blocked the Anti-outsourcing bill (I put this as #1 -it is the root cause of the problem)
2. Blocked extending unemployment benefits to Americans who are out of work.
3. Blocked Small Business Jobs Act -because if you are unemployed and don't have any money -then how will you make a living.

All of this adds up to: REPUBLICANS INTENTIONALLY HARMING THE ECONOMY. No amount of claiming that "Obama is a communist" can fix what they did.
 
2012-09-03 01:07:37 PM
The Dems had a lock on government for almost 20 years when FDR was in office and he was clearly showing the working class that he was on their side.

Meanwhile todays pretend Dems (aka moderate conservatives) got killed only 2 years after their take over.

Gee i wonder if theres a lesson to be learned...
 
2012-09-03 01:08:36 PM
I see Republicans have found their latest "you didn't build that" bullshiat twisting of what was really said.

It really is a requirement to be stupid and ignorant to be a Republican today...
 
2012-09-03 01:09:35 PM

Bob16: The 2010 republican landslide showed how much the public thought they were better off and things are not much better today.

Funny how the latino calvary that is suppose to ride to the rescue and crush conservatives for eternity didn't come through then.

Keep farkin that chicken Dems.


Midterm elections historically don't have a high voter turnout.

Romney and his ilk have alienated Latinos. The vast majority of us are not going to vote for that flip-flopping, lying sack of shiat, and we certainly don't like his patronizing wife, either.
 
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