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(Fox News)   Using the verbal equivalency of circling the wagons, top Dems claim balancing the budget now would actually be a bad idea   (foxnews.com) divider line 39
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2012-09-03 02:30:26 PM  
2 votes:

gameshowhost: WhyteRaven74: gameshowhost: Careful with that.. his head might explode.

Yeah, probably don't want to mention things like that being a corporation is a matter of privilege not right.

Wait. They weren't mentioned in The Sermon On The Mount?

/new idea: the sermon on the mitt


Hahaha.

Blessed be the unemployed, for they buy me Jet-Skis.
Blessed are the hostile takeovers, for they shall inherit my debt.
2012-09-03 12:02:25 PM  
2 votes:

DarwiOdrade: So you're saying we should lock Republicans alone in rooms with sharp objects?


I was thinking bottles of bleach labeled "Tax Cuts" but sharp objects work too.
2012-09-03 11:49:52 AM  
2 votes:

vernonFL: We should run the government like a household, or better yet, like a lemonade stand.


And if we could just get rid of those pesky regulations, we could increase volume by pissing in the pitcher. It's free money, why is this so hard to understand?
2012-09-03 11:47:44 AM  
2 votes:
But when a Republican told us "deficits don't matter" that was completely different.
2012-09-03 11:47:34 AM  
2 votes:
We should run the government like a household, or better yet, like a lemonade stand.
2012-09-03 07:23:12 PM  
1 votes:

gimmegimme: CPennypacker: DrPainMD: CPennypacker: DrPainMD: CPennypacker: It would be a bad idea. You don't balance the budget in a recession. You need to spend the money to get you out of the recession.

Cutting spending worked for the 1920 recession.
Increasing spending didn't work for the 1929 recession.

Are you serious? The 1920 recession didn't end because of cutting spending. Most of the spending cuts occured under wilson years before

And increased spending didn't work for the great depression? On what planet?

Ok... increased spending worked. If, by "worked," you mean, "turned a recession into the greatest depression the world had ever seen."

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Conservapedia on the Great Depression


Oh gawd, it even has the Kindleberger Spiral. "LET'S MAKE UP ECONOMICS BY INTERPRETING LITERARY DESCRIPTIONS RATHER THAN USING OBSERVATIONS"
2012-09-03 05:50:20 PM  
1 votes:

Spaz-master: CPennypacker: It would be a bad idea. You don't balance the budget in a recession. You need to spend the money to get you out of the recession.

1930's would like to have a word with you


You're right. The New Deal did help us get out of the Great Depression. Thanks for pointing that out!
2012-09-03 04:31:09 PM  
1 votes:

CPennypacker: DrPainMD: CPennypacker: DrPainMD: CPennypacker: It would be a bad idea. You don't balance the budget in a recession. You need to spend the money to get you out of the recession.

Cutting spending worked for the 1920 recession.
Increasing spending didn't work for the 1929 recession.

Are you serious? The 1920 recession didn't end because of cutting spending. Most of the spending cuts occured under wilson years before

And increased spending didn't work for the great depression? On what planet?

Ok... increased spending worked. If, by "worked," you mean, "turned a recession into the greatest depression the world had ever seen."

notsureifserious.jpg


Conservapedia on the Great Depression
2012-09-03 03:45:22 PM  
1 votes:

wademh: .
raise taxes


Excuse me? I pay a lot in taxes. I'm Taxed Enough Already!

See? This was my tax rate:

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2012-09-03 02:56:01 PM  
1 votes:
Do GOP shills get time and a half for working on Labor Day?
2012-09-03 02:28:30 PM  
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: gameshowhost: Careful with that.. his head might explode.

Yeah, probably don't want to mention things like that being a corporation is a matter of privilege not right.


Wait. They weren't mentioned in The Sermon On The Mount?

/new idea: the sermon on the mitt
2012-09-03 02:10:38 PM  
1 votes:

Cuchulane: More_Like_A_Stain: vernonFL: We should run the government like a household, or better yet, like a lemonade stand.

And if we could just get rid of those pesky regulations, we could increase volume by pissing in the pitcher. It's free money, why is this so hard to understand?

Lol! I'm stealing that.


You cannot steal that which is freely given.
2012-09-03 02:10:37 PM  
1 votes:

gameshowhost: Also, I can't believe that you haven't learned anything in all your years in the politics tab. It's almost as if you're a glassy-eyed ideologue.


I find it interesting he thinks society has no business setting criteria for institutions that society allows to exist because they promise to meet certain criteria in the first place. Then again I'm willing to bet he doesn't see institutions, regardless of type, as being part of society and the terms under which they exist being what society decides on.
2012-09-03 02:09:27 PM  
1 votes:

Cuchulane: More_Like_A_Stain: vernonFL: We should run the government like a household, or better yet, like a lemonade stand.

And if we could just get rid of those pesky regulations, we could increase volume by pissing in the pitcher. It's free money, why is this so hard to understand?

Lol! I'm stealing that.


static4.businessinsider.com

I love how even the little girls Fox News talked to understood that they received generous grants from others to start their business. Not only didn't they have to pay for materials, but they received rent-free space on which to build their lemonade stand.

//I really hope they didn't build that...little kids shouldn't be playing with power tools.
2012-09-03 02:03:03 PM  
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: 10 U.S.C. 311: gameshowhost: GDP = C + I + G + (X-M)

If C, I, and (X-M) aren't performing, you're only left with G.

/it's really not that goddamned hard to understand, conservatives/libertarians

Amazing how that equation entirely omits the effects debt and interest...

10 U.S.C. 311: gameshowhost: GDP = C + I + G + (X-M)

If C, I, and (X-M) aren't performing, you're only left with G.

/it's really not that goddamned hard to understand, conservatives/libertarians

Amazing how that equation entirely omits the effects debt and interest...

It does?

Oh, is this opposite day?


Of course not. This is Labor Day, a celebration of the benevolence of employers such as Andrew Carnegie and JP Morgan, men who devoted their lives to building the middle class even at their own expense.
2012-09-03 01:48:29 PM  
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: Monkeyhouse Zendo: I sometimes wonder if people who espouse charity over guaranteed government assistance just want to see the poor and hungry beg.

Yes they do. And they think the late 1800s were awesome, what with the people living in squalor, with no protections to speak of.


See now... that gives me a conservaboner™.
2012-09-03 01:33:16 PM  
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: 10 U.S.C. 311: No. However, I do value charity

How do you feel about the fact that our lack of affordable health care for all citizens is a significant drag on business and negatively affects our ability to compete with other nations?


Stop being obtuse. The next time someone needs a heart transplant, they can just hold a chicken dinner benefit to raise the hundreds of thousands of dollars they need.

When a kid has leukemia, the parents can hold a bake sale to raise the money.

Duh. Charity totally works.
2012-09-03 01:08:53 PM  
1 votes:

Clonod: So vote for the Republicans who refuse to cut DoD spending promises to increase defense spending by $500 Billion/year in ten years.


That will pay off our debt in no time!!!

The GOP really is looking out for us aren't they?
2012-09-03 01:03:45 PM  
1 votes:

BMulligan: Has anyone bothered to look up the text of 10 U.S.C. 311? You're arguing with Timothy farking McVeigh!


Yeah, I looked it up about 45 minutes ago and immediately thought "Sharron Angle must be very proud of this dude. Second Amendment solutions!"
2012-09-03 12:59:51 PM  
1 votes:

BMulligan: Has anyone bothered to look up the text of 10 U.S.C. 311? You're arguing with Timothy farking McVeigh!


I just got here, but you're right. Awesome troll name.

Link
2012-09-03 12:51:42 PM  
1 votes:
Deficits dont matter.
2012-09-03 12:51:23 PM  
1 votes:
Hey, let's give him a break. At least he's not just spouting the same tired, old claptrap.

I mean his charts and graphs are crap, but at least it's something different.

He'll be gone soon anyway. Enjoy it while it lasts.
2012-09-03 12:46:33 PM  
1 votes:

DarwiOdrade: Did you notice that one of those graphs was from the House Budget Committee (derp) and another was "the author's estimates" (herpaderpadoo!)?


Once you harmonize the statistical quirks, their statisticals are infalliable!
2012-09-03 12:46:11 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: I don't know what more the US could to dissuade people from investing in it at this point - its rate of return is literally negative.


Gee, it's almost like investors don't trust Wall Street. Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to have a parade of investment bankers sit before Congress and essentially state "Investors should just put their big boy pants on and expect that we're going to fark them whenever we get a chance".
2012-09-03 12:40:18 PM  
1 votes:

10 U.S.C. 311: Agreed. Now let's reverse it.


Holy shiat, are you really stumping for the Ryan budget?
2012-09-03 12:36:35 PM  
1 votes:

10 U.S.C. 311: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Now was that so hard? Of course the graph's title is a little panicky for what is effectively a linear progression that started in 2000...

Agreed. Now let's reverse it.

[static.keithhennessey.com image 850x637]


By the way, this chart was created by a Bush Economic Policy adviser. Just thought I'd point that out... for teh lulz.
2012-09-03 12:35:22 PM  
1 votes:
"Deficits don't matter!"

-Some Famous Democrat
2012-09-03 12:32:39 PM  
1 votes:

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: 10 U.S.C. 311: This isn't about Obama, it's about spending and the deficit.

It only becomes about Obama and Romney because Obama wants to spend more than Romney.

Are they paying you more than the guys who came up with the 'DEBT BAD' billboards out on 480?


I would say that based on his retarded charts, they're not paying him enough.
2012-09-03 12:31:49 PM  
1 votes:

10 U.S.C. 311: This isn't about Obama, it's about spending and the deficit.

It only becomes about Obama and Romney because Obama wants to spend more than Romney.


Are they paying you more than the guys who came up with the 'DEBT BAD' billboards out on 480?
2012-09-03 12:30:36 PM  
1 votes:
This thread is just turning into Monkey Flinging Poo Misleading Charts that Don't Actually Prove a Point.
2012-09-03 12:26:22 PM  
1 votes:

CPennypacker: 10 U.S.C. 311: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Have that in real dollars? I'm pretty sure that the economy tanking is going to skew spending to GDP rations.

[www.hyscience.com image 601x535]

So it went down after Obama took office but they project it to go up after so Obama bad. Nice graph. Do you even look at these before you post them?


That is the greatest thing ever. Bonus points for being from Heritage.

Heritage - We bring you Teh Lulz!™
2012-09-03 12:18:38 PM  
1 votes:

DarwiOdrade: 10 U.S.C. 311: CPennypacker: It would be a bad idea. You don't balance the budget in a recession. You need to spend the money to get you out of the recession.

Because we haven't tried that yet.

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I think possibly now it may be time for somebody else to come along and solve the problem.

Q1 of 2009 is Obama spending? So you're not even attempting to make a credible argument - got it.


Jesus, I just noticed that. Well, if he's going with that, he should just parade out the "5 trillion in debt" argument too, while he's at it.
2012-09-03 12:14:46 PM  
1 votes:

10 U.S.C. 311: coeyagi: And if you put that on a scale of 0 - 25%, it would look fairly unchanged.

Not exactly.

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Yes exactly. You're f*cking scale on the X-axis changed from 1975 to 1960, you sneaky bastard. You must have been valedictiorian at your GED ceremony.
2012-09-03 12:07:51 PM  
1 votes:
burnpit.legion.org
2012-09-03 12:00:26 PM  
1 votes:

BMulligan: Aside from all the other comments here, pointing out (correctly) that this would be a terrible time to cut spending or raise taxes sufficiently to balance the budget, I will just add that real bond yields are negative right now, meaning that the federal government is actually profiting by borrowing. Anyone who thinks that the budget deficit is our biggest problem right now is too stupid to be left alone for extended periods.


So you're saying we should lock Republicans alone in rooms with sharp objects?
2012-09-03 11:56:38 AM  
1 votes:
Three players in the economy:

Government, business, consumers.

1) Consumers - we borrow ALL the time, we're encouraged to by both sides of the aisle.
2) Business - we borrow ALL the time, and we get PLENTY of government loans and subsidies to do so.
3) Government - why can't we borrow, GOP? We haz a sad. Wouldn't us borrowing help businesses and consumers borrow and thus grow the economy?
2012-09-03 11:49:41 AM  
1 votes:
Problem: Sluggish economy.

Democratic solution: borrow and spend.

Republican solution. tax cuts for the wealthy.
2012-09-03 11:42:08 AM  
1 votes:
In before cons use "running a business" as a model for a country.
2012-09-03 11:39:50 AM  
1 votes:
In before cons use household 'economy' as a model for a country.
 
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