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(Daily Mail)   Not news: NASA's working on a new type of airplane. News: It's the fastest supersonic ever. Fark: It flies sideways. GEEKGASM: And it looks like a ninja throwing star   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 36
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2012-09-03 03:20:10 AM
blastr.com
 
2012-09-03 07:15:35 AM
Wow, totally biatchin' music in that video.
 
2012-09-03 10:01:28 AM
FTFA: It is for this reason that normal commercial airplanes have such significant wings, because they need to use that wingspan to gain enough momentum to get off of the ground.


What hell did I just read?
 
2012-09-03 10:07:47 AM
Part A and Part B of the plan both seem reasonable... it's the transition that's going to get a wee bit entertaining. The lift asymmetry on that thing while it rotates is going to cause some issues. I predict a spectacular in flight break up of the first scale mockup to try it.
 
2012-09-03 10:09:10 AM
images.myreviewer.co.uk
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2012-09-03 10:13:27 AM

Fizpez: FTFA: It is for this reason that normal commercial airplanes have such significant wings, because they need to use that wingspan to gain enough momentum to get off of the ground.


What hell did I just read?


I think they just mean that planes with less enginer power need more wing.
 
2012-09-03 10:17:36 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Fizpez: FTFA: It is for this reason that normal commercial airplanes have such significant wings, because they need to use that wingspan to gain enough momentum to get off of the ground.


What hell did I just read?

I think they just mean that planes with less enginer power need more wing.


maybe they meant lift instead of momentum
 
2012-09-03 10:20:30 AM
I don't see how it is better than variable-sweep wings. Double the control surfaces and mechanics, difficult engine placement, and a very difficult transition between two flying modes as opposed to a gradual change between several modes.

Also, It's the fastest supersonic ever. For reals?

And, supersonic levels of the atmosphere. What?
 
2012-09-03 10:23:22 AM
The whole problem is how to go further on less fuel, and I'm not getting how this helps. Going extremely high only saves fuel if you find some way to gain altitude without burning lots of extra energy.

/NASA Needs to get back to work on its blended wing bodies.
 
2012-09-03 10:25:06 AM
Seriously people, it's the DAILY MAIL. How you can you honestly be worried about the wording? Of course it's wrong.

Here's another source:
Engadget

there are plenty that don't F up the words.
 
2012-09-03 10:37:42 AM

GEEKGASM: And it looks like a ninja throwing star


A: "Can you translate that?"

B: "Shuriken."

A: "What does it mean?"

B: "It means shuriken."

A: "I know you can, but what does it mean??"
 
2012-09-03 10:43:23 AM

Fizpez: FTFA: It is for this reason that normal commercial airplanes have such significant wings, because they need to use that wingspan to gain enough momentum to get off of the ground.


What hell did I just read?


Science, dude!

Everyone knows that big fat wings make planes go forward until they gave enough momentum for baby Jesus to levitate them.

/not gonna RTDM, but "flies sideways"? Doesnt that just mean that the cockpit is mounted wrong? I mean, a B17 didn't "fly sideways" just because a waist gunner was facing 3 o'clock
 
2012-09-03 11:03:36 AM

unyon: [blastr.com image 685x367]


First thought I had.
 
2012-09-03 11:24:02 AM

GRCooper: "flies sideways"? Doesnt that just mean that the cockpit is mounted wrong?


It turns ninety degrees in flight.
So at some point you'd have that sideways becomes the new forward.

/Doesn't sound like much fun to be inside when that happens.
 
2012-09-03 11:29:32 AM

GRCooper: Fizpez: FTFA: It is for this reason that normal commercial airplanes have such significant wings, because they need to use that wingspan to gain enough momentum to get off of the ground.


What hell did I just read?

Science, dude!

Everyone knows that big fat wings make planes go forward until they gave enough momentum for baby Jesus to levitate them.

/not gonna RTDM, but "flies sideways"? Doesnt that just mean that the cockpit is mounted wrong? I mean, a B17 didn't "fly sideways" just because a waist gunner was facing 3 o'clock


It has two modes of flight that are perpendicular to each other. You start out with long wings and short body, then turn ninety degrees so you have short wings and long body.
 
2012-09-03 11:35:59 AM
Ah, gotcha. So it does what the F14 and Tu16(?) did via variable geometry.

Pretty nifty
 
2012-09-03 11:41:24 AM
That was some of the ugliest 3d animation I've seen in a while.
 
2012-09-03 11:48:20 AM
FTFA: The plane is created in a way that will allow it to take off from the ground...

Well, that will make loading passengers and crew a lot easier.
 
2012-09-03 12:08:38 PM
Looks like the pictures of the plan were taken in Google Earth Flight Simulator.

/not a typo... read the article
 
2012-09-03 12:18:51 PM
Hmmm, changes a large portion of its profile in flight...works well for the V-22 Osprey.
 
2012-09-03 12:22:32 PM
Video of them in action
Link
 
2012-09-03 12:50:33 PM

GRCooper: /not gonna RTDM, but "flies sideways"? Doesnt that just mean that the cockpit is mounted wrong?


Comfy swivel chairs. Weeeee!
 
2012-09-03 12:51:17 PM
"NASA approved a $100,000 investment" ... "the hefty fund"

hefty? 100k? thats like 4 months for a couple of dudes to do some computer simulation work lol...
 
2012-09-03 01:27:08 PM
please file this under flying wings, swing wings, and the moller flying car
 
2012-09-03 01:41:49 PM

daynar: "NASA approved a $100,000 investment" ... "the hefty fund"

hefty? 100k? thats like 4 months for a couple of dudes to do some computer simulation work lol...


Just enough money to finish the simulation that says you can't rotate an airplane 90 degrees at almost Mach 1
 
2012-09-03 01:45:07 PM
That thing looks like a puke machine.
 
2012-09-03 02:09:08 PM

way south: The whole problem is how to go further on less fuel, and I'm not getting how this helps. Going extremely high only saves fuel if you find some way to gain altitude without burning lots of extra energy.

/NASA Needs to get back to work on its blended wing bodies.


NASA has been flying the X-48 blended wing body sub-scale model for over 6 years. What's funny, and by funny I mean farking stupid, is that it seems NASA can't directly work on research to improve fuel economy, but they can work on "reducing pollution", which luckily is about the same thing (when you include CO2).

The National Research Council did a study a few months ago, and they said the top 3 things for aeronautics are to do a full-scale blended/hybrid wing body, a quiet supersonic demonstrator, and more hypersonics. The budget for hypersonics has since been cut to effectively 0.

Also, I've seen quite a few concepts for quiet supersonic flight that aren't too unusually shaped. I don't see this working out.

/Getting a kick, etc.
 
2012-09-03 02:23:18 PM
"The uppermost parts of space," huh?
 
2012-09-03 03:54:11 PM
Weird. Was doing a thought exercise over the weekend and this was my subject. My main issue was having an aircraft light enough to fly, but with enough structure to put in a rotation device.

/Get out of my head NASA!
 
2012-09-03 04:41:29 PM
Meeya Meefla does it again! No wonder it's destined to be Earthport!
/Obscure?
 
2012-09-03 05:31:58 PM
images.wikia.com

The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
 
2012-09-03 06:03:06 PM
I think the oblique wing was a much better idea, and it was still farking stupid.
 
2012-09-03 06:51:35 PM

way south: It turns ninety degrees in flight.
So at some point you'd have that sideways becomes the new forward.

/Doesn't sound like much fun to be inside when that happens



The preferred seats are mid-cabin
 
2012-09-03 07:15:15 PM
Yeah blah, blah, blah......

i486.photobucket.com
Here's the design in the 70's that they swore we'd be flying by 2000.
 
2012-09-03 11:44:53 PM

Fizpez: FTFA: It is for this reason that normal commercial airplanes have such significant wings, because they need to use that wingspan to gain enough momentum to get off of the ground.


What hell did I just read?


It's called the Daily Fail for a reason.
 
2012-09-04 12:02:43 AM
 
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