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2012-09-03 01:33:24 AM
Bad subby. This should have the awesome tag attached.
 
2012-09-03 01:57:39 AM
FTA: "I had come up with the idea because I love the character and I think he's a character that hasn't been fully developed and hasn't been fully realized."

Really? 7 seasons of TNG, guest appearances on all other spinoffs and 4 movies and the character wasn't developed enough?
 
2012-09-03 02:08:31 AM
After becoming the Federation ambassador to the Klingon Empire in DS9, Warf gets demoted to mere captain?
 
2012-09-03 02:11:51 AM
I like the idea, but I think it will be a bad idea if every alien that beams aboard has to beat up the captain to demonstrate how tough he is.
 
2012-09-03 02:25:53 AM

azmoviez: FTA: "I had come up with the idea because I love the character and I think he's a character that hasn't been fully developed and hasn't been fully realized."

Really? 7 seasons of TNG, guest appearances on all other spinoffs and 4 movies and the character wasn't developed enough?


7 seasons of TNG and the 4 TNG movies offered little to nothing in the way of character development. Hell, Roddenberry only created the character to be a background prop to show that things had changed since TOS.

Now, yes, There was development on DS9, but Worf always did wind up being pretty damn boring compared to, say, Martok.
 
2012-09-03 02:41:46 AM

azmoviez: FTA: "I had come up with the idea because I love the character and I think he's a character that hasn't been fully developed and hasn't been fully realized."

= i need more money

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2012-09-03 06:03:02 AM
The only episodes worse than the ones featuring Worf were the ones featuring Troi.
 
2012-09-03 06:46:44 AM
Congrats, subby. You've raised whining like a little biatch to an art form.
 
2012-09-03 09:53:18 AM
Just have him fight the Borg in every episode. Then do spinoffs where his crew visits the Dr. Who universe and maybe whatever Joss Whedon is shiatting out this season. BAM- never ending cash cow.
 
2012-09-03 09:59:51 AM

azmoviez: Really? 7 seasons of TNG, guest appearances on all other spinoffs and 4 movies and the character wasn't developed enough?


He wasn't a guest on DS9, he was a regular after the 3rd season. He's been in more episodes of Trek than any character in the Trek universe.
 
2012-09-03 09:59:56 AM
I'm sensing incredulity in this thread
 
2012-09-03 10:00:02 AM
I dunno. On the one hand, more Star Trek: TNG universe TV. Awesome.

On the other hand, after re-watching most of DS9 on Netflix, Worf has become probably my least favorite character. I'd even take Nog over him. He's just too... predictable. Stoic. Boring even, for a Klingon.

On the other hand, I'd pay good money for a true Klingon-centric show. /pipedream
 
2012-09-03 10:00:10 AM
I would watch that show.
 
2012-09-03 10:03:29 AM
Huh... Well I'd be more interested in this than I would be in a Whedon-reboot tv series. This couldn't be any worse than Enterprise was... I hope.
 
2012-09-03 10:03:48 AM

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: I dunno. On the one hand, more Star Trek: TNG universe TV. Awesome.

On the other hand, after re-watching most of DS9 on Netflix, Worf has become probably my least favorite character. I'd even take Nog over him. He's just too... predictable. Stoic. Boring even, for a Klingon.

On the other hand, I'd pay good money for a true Klingon-centric show. /pipedream


1: Worf was the galaxy's worst father.
2: Didn't he go from commander to ambassador with the freaking Klingons at the end of DS9?
 
2012-09-03 10:04:03 AM

bsharitt: I would watch that show.


Right. He would have obviously been promoted to have his own ship at some point. I would indeed be interested in seeing what they come up with.
 
2012-09-03 10:04:31 AM
Haha, Abrams I mean.
 
2012-09-03 10:04:45 AM

skodabunny: Huh... Well I'd be more interested in this than I would be in a Whedon-reboot tv series. This couldn't be any worse than Enterprise was... I hope.


Abrams-reboot. Not Whedon-reboot.

Want to know what's farked up about Abrams Star Trek? ENTERPRISE IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S CANON NOW. It happened before the movie.
 
2012-09-03 10:05:21 AM

azmoviez: FTA: "I had come up with the idea because I love the character and I think he's a character that hasn't been fully developed and hasn't been fully realized."

Really? 7 seasons of TNG, guest appearances on all other spinoffs and 4 movies and the character wasn't developed enough?


I think he is referring to Worf's typically rejected "Captain, we must kill everything and everyone!" suggestion during officer meetings in the ready room.
 
2012-09-03 10:06:24 AM

Bloody William: 2: Didn't he go from commander to ambassador with the freaking Klingons at the end of DS9?


But he was inexplicably back on the Enterprise as a Lt. Commander in Nemesis(The Riker wedding explains his presence, but not why he's back in Starfleet).
 
2012-09-03 10:07:39 AM
"But, Captain..."

NO, WORF
 
2012-09-03 10:08:09 AM
It'll never happen. Dorn did a perfectly fine job with Worf as a SUPPORTING character. But he doesn't have the acting chops to lead a series.
 
2012-09-03 10:08:26 AM

bsharitt: Bloody William: 2: Didn't he go from commander to ambassador with the freaking Klingons at the end of DS9?

But he was inexplicably back on the Enterprise as a Lt. Commander in Nemesis(The Riker wedding explains his presence, but not why he's back in Starfleet).


It was handwaved that he was at a nearby colony and... fark it, I don't know.
 
2012-09-03 10:09:40 AM

Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: It'll never happen. Dorn did a perfectly fine job with Worf as a SUPPORTING character. But he doesn't have the acting chops to lead a series.


Worf and Data as buddy cops in 1970s San Francisco.
 
2012-09-03 10:10:46 AM
I'm rewatching DS9 right now and I'm in Season 4, which is All About Worf, and this seems like a terrible idea. You want to continue a DS9 storyline? Have the Prophets deposit Sisko back somewhere.
 
2012-09-03 10:10:48 AM

bsharitt: I would watch that show.


I agree, only if they made it more of an aggressive campaign. Perhaps he is dealing with a Klingon war of some sorts, and his being a part of the Federation creates a nice gray area for character development/conflict? Maybe have it when he is MUCH older (like, almost retired age) so you can throw in some new technology along with him being more of a hardened/very angst type of captain?

This could actually have potential in the right hands.
 
2012-09-03 10:11:52 AM

Bloody William: Worf and Data as buddy cops in 1970s San Francisco.


Sure, why not. It was the 70s, you didn't have to act well. And Spiner could carry it ;)
 
2012-09-03 10:13:31 AM

Bloody William: The Dreaded Rear Admiral: I dunno. On the one hand, more Star Trek: TNG universe TV. Awesome.

On the other hand, after re-watching most of DS9 on Netflix, Worf has become probably my least favorite character. I'd even take Nog over him. He's just too... predictable. Stoic. Boring even, for a Klingon.

On the other hand, I'd pay good money for a true Klingon-centric show. /pipedream

1: Worf was the galaxy's worst father.
2: Didn't he go from commander to ambassador with the freaking Klingons at the end of DS9?


3. There should be a limit to the number of times you can be irrevocably disgraced and ostracized by the Klingon people before they, like, I dunno, run you through with a bat'leth.
4. I never bought Worf-Troi, or Worf-Dax. Riker-Troi made more sense, and Dax needed to continue the Trill lesbo thing. I'd say Dax-Bashir, but I always wanted Melora to come back for him after that one episode.
 
2012-09-03 10:14:16 AM

GAT_00: I'm rewatching DS9 right now and I'm in Season 4, which is All About Worf, and this seems like a terrible idea. You want to continue a DS9 storyline? Have the Prophets deposit Sisko back somewhere.


Originally, the DS9 finale had Cisco's death/ascension a Certain Thing. He died, farked off to the Prophets, and left forever. The bit at the end was put in because Avery Brooks thought a black character with a kid on the way abandoning them was a bad idea.

.... aaaand then we have Worf. Whose son is the only bigger biatch/punching bad in the Star Trek universe than Harry Kim.
 
2012-09-03 10:14:21 AM

LaChanz: The only episodes worse than the ones featuring Worf were the ones featuring Troi.


If at first you don't succeed, try Troi again
 
2012-09-03 10:14:58 AM

GAT_00: I'm rewatching DS9 right now and I'm in Season 4, which is All About Worf, and this seems like a terrible idea. You want to continue a DS9 storyline? Have the Prophets deposit Sisko back somewhere.


THIS. As I recall, they needed a pick-me-up in the ratings, so they brought him on. The interesting part was they ended up not even truly needing him because the Dominion War story arc become so good.
 
2012-09-03 10:15:28 AM

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: 3. There should be a limit to the number of times you can be irrevocably disgraced and ostracized by the Klingon people before they, like, I dunno, run you through with a bat'leth.


I have a feeling that there's a widget in Fas'bhuq that shows users whether Worf is disgraced or not that day.
 
2012-09-03 10:16:28 AM

Bloody William: GAT_00: I'm rewatching DS9 right now and I'm in Season 4, which is All About Worf, and this seems like a terrible idea. You want to continue a DS9 storyline? Have the Prophets deposit Sisko back somewhere.

Originally, the DS9 finale had Cisco's death/ascension a Certain Thing. He died, farked off to the Prophets, and left forever. The bit at the end was put in because Avery Brooks thought a black character with a kid on the way abandoning them was a bad idea.

.... aaaand then we have Worf. Whose son is the only bigger biatch/punching bad in the Star Trek universe than Harry Kim.


The DS9 producers actually wrote storylines around the idea that 'O'Brien must pay' and don't forget Barclay, so no Kim wasn't the worst punching bag. Honestly, Barclay was far worse than Wesley.
 
2012-09-03 10:16:55 AM

buntz: LaChanz: The only episodes worse than the ones featuring Worf were the ones featuring Troi.

If at first you don't succeed, try Troi again


Hey now, Sub Rosa had Dr. Crusher too. AND the Scottish Planet (Doohan 6)!
 
2012-09-03 10:17:11 AM

bsharitt: Bloody William: 2: Didn't he go from commander to ambassador with the freaking Klingons at the end of DS9?

But he was inexplicably back on the Enterprise as a Lt. Commander in Nemesis(The Riker wedding explains his presence, but not why he's back in Starfleet).


Didn't it also feature Wesley as a Starfleet officer as well at the wedding? In spite of the fact that he had left to explore all of time and space with the Traveler?
 
2012-09-03 10:17:22 AM
They should make it Cap'n Worf, Space Pirate.

I'd watch that.
 
2012-09-03 10:18:19 AM

Bloody William: .... aaaand then we have Worf. Whose son is the only bigger biatch/punching bad in the Star Trek universe than Harry Kim.


Is it established that Klingons age faster than humans or something? Because he was born in what, season 4 of TNG and by the time DS9 rolled around 5 or so years later he was like 30.

Seven of Nine spinoff, that's where it's at.
 
2012-09-03 10:20:27 AM
As much as I liked Worf on ST:TNG,I'm not sure this is a good idea. Sorry,Dorn.
 
2012-09-03 10:23:07 AM
Sounds like someone has burned through his I.M. Weasel money.
 
2012-09-03 10:23:33 AM

GAT_00: I'm rewatching DS9 right now and I'm in Season 4, which is All About Worf, and this seems like a terrible idea. You want to continue a DS9 storyline? Have the Prophets deposit Sisko back somewhere.


Have you seen the Shatner documentary Captains? It's on NetFlix streaming. Avery Brooks is not operating on all thrusters.
 
2012-09-03 10:26:27 AM

bsharitt: But he was inexplicably back on the Enterprise as a Lt. Commander in Nemesis(The Riker wedding explains his presence, but not why he's back in Starfleet).


Nothing about Nemesis worked. The plot. The directing. The acting. In other words - just like any Star Trek TNG tv episode.
 
2012-09-03 10:27:40 AM

GAT_00: The DS9 producers actually wrote storylines around the idea that 'O'Brien must pay' and don't forget Barclay, so no Kim wasn't the worst punching bag. Honestly, Barclay was far worse than Wesley.


That's because O'Brien is in the punching bag hall of fame and no longer up for consideration. Harry Kim would be too, but getting any recognition formalized at all is rendered moot by his career being farked over for banging an alien chick while his best friend gets demoted to his rank then promoted above him after farkING WITH A PLANET'S POLITICS, ECONOMY, AND ECOSYSTEM.
 
2012-09-03 10:28:17 AM

Mugato: GAT_00: I'm rewatching DS9 right now and I'm in Season 4, which is All About Worf, and this seems like a terrible idea. You want to continue a DS9 storyline? Have the Prophets deposit Sisko back somewhere.

Have you seen the Shatner documentary Captains? It's on NetFlix streaming. Avery Brooks is not operating on all thrusters.


It's been added to my queue. And yeah, from those con pictures with all of the captains together, Brooks looked terrible. I don't know what happened to him, but he looks like he jumped head first into the loony bin.

Honestly, there's no good place to put a new story except way into the future. There's someone trying to pitch that - Starfleet is collapsing and there's One Good Man left to save everyone. I guess absorbing Andromeda and Firefly into the Star Trek Universe. But really the universe is too fleshed out now, and honestly stupid with Romulus destroyed.
 
2012-09-03 10:29:17 AM

gingerjet: bsharitt: But he was inexplicably back on the Enterprise as a Lt. Commander in Nemesis(The Riker wedding explains his presence, but not why he's back in Starfleet).

Nothing about Nemesis worked. The plot. The directing. The acting. In other words - just like any Star Trek TNG tv episode.


That's because Frakes directed it. He's a godawful director, at least when he's a character in what he's directing.
 
2012-09-03 10:31:09 AM
Do we really need a series about Worf getting embarrassed over and over and over again?
 
2012-09-03 10:31:22 AM

GAT_00: It's been added to my queue. And yeah, from those con pictures with all of the captains together, Brooks looked terrible. I don't know what happened to him, but he looks like he jumped head first into the loony bin.


Avery Brooks is awesomely insane. Imagine if Keith David and Gary Busey had a son with a smooooooth voice.
 
2012-09-03 10:34:23 AM

Mugato: GAT_00: I'm rewatching DS9 right now and I'm in Season 4, which is All About Worf, and this seems like a terrible idea. You want to continue a DS9 storyline? Have the Prophets deposit Sisko back somewhere.

Have you seen the Shatner documentary Captains? It's on NetFlix streaming. Avery Brooks is not operating on all thrusters.


I was going to mention this. He's definitely out in space, his body is just here on Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AECEnj6r6k8 

Though that takes his interviews a bit out of context.
 
2012-09-03 10:34:27 AM

Bloody William: skodabunny: Huh... Well I'd be more interested in this than I would be in a Whedon-reboot tv series. This couldn't be any worse than Enterprise was... I hope.

Abrams-reboot. Not Whedon-reboot.

Want to know what's farked up about Abrams Star Trek? ENTERPRISE IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S CANON NOW. It happened before the movie.


Why the hate for Enterprise? Much better then DS9 or Voyager. Season 4 was probally the best season of any trek series
 
2012-09-03 10:35:50 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Bloody William: skodabunny: Huh... Well I'd be more interested in this than I would be in a Whedon-reboot tv series. This couldn't be any worse than Enterprise was... I hope.

Abrams-reboot. Not Whedon-reboot.

Want to know what's farked up about Abrams Star Trek? ENTERPRISE IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S CANON NOW. It happened before the movie.

Why the hate for Enterprise? Much better then DS9 or Voyager. Season 4 was probally the best season of any trek series


The entire crew was unlikeable or forgettable, the captain was out of his mind and had no rhyme or reason, most of the show is focused around a horrible time travel storyarc that doesn't fit into the Star Trek universe, and the entire series except for part of season 4 was a big example of how to waste potential.
 
2012-09-03 10:36:09 AM
Shut up, Wesley ...
 
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