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2012-09-03 02:18:06 PM
fark! I just checked my voter reg. status even though I received a new registration card a few weeks ago. I'm not registered to vote. There's no record of me voting. God dammit.
 
2012-09-03 02:22:54 PM

WizardofToast: Funny how Obama is trying to help people register while the GOP is excluding people via Voter ID laws to stop the massive voter fraud (massive meaning tens of people that were caught for it years ago).


Well, yeah.

If the US had compulsory voting, and all eligible voters were required to vote, the Democrats would win in a landslide every time. Both parties know this.

This is why the Democratic strategy centers around registering voters, and the Republican strategy centers around purging voter registrations, enacting new ID requirements, eliminating early voting, and enacting other obstacles, and generally trying to suppress turnout.
 
2012-09-03 02:25:42 PM
Guys, I ...I've been told that this proves that, in fact, both sides are bad and I should vote republican. Is that true?
 
2012-09-03 02:29:21 PM

karnal: Interesting since only the Republicans seem to be interested in preventing voter fraud....then again, the Democrats know their base.


republican mike turzai from penn: ["Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done," he said to applause at a Republican State Committee this weekend.]

it's no accident that these voter suppression efforts disenfranchise democrats

why are you being intellectually dishonest about this?
 
2012-09-03 02:44:09 PM

Bontesla: Fark you, Republicans.


^
 
2012-09-03 02:50:45 PM

Epoch_Zero: Guys, I ...I've been told that this proves that, in fact, both sides are bad and I should vote republican. Is that true?


Absolutely. If you live in Illinois your R vote will offset my grandfather's D vote. He's been dead since 1983 but hasn't missed an election since the '20's. Vote early, vote often.
 
2012-09-03 02:53:47 PM

Anderson's Pooper: Absolutely. If you live in Illinois your R vote will offset my grandfather's D vote. He's been dead since 1983 but hasn't missed an election since the '20's. Vote early, vote often.


You might want to know that happened back in the '60s; you're using a talking derping point that's been out of date and irrelevant for longer than most of us have been alive.
 
2012-09-03 03:41:20 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: Anderson's Pooper: Absolutely. If you live in Illinois your R vote will offset my grandfather's D vote. He's been dead since 1983 but hasn't missed an election since the '20's. Vote early, vote often.

You might want to know that happened back in the '60s; you're using a talking derping point that's been out of date and irrelevant for longer than most of us have been alive.


Hey, ya gotta go with what ya got...even when it's nothing
 
2012-09-03 03:52:16 PM

gadian: fark! I just checked my voter reg. status even though I received a new registration card a few weeks ago. I'm not registered to vote. There's no record of me voting. God dammit.


Yeah, but those of us who know you, know you're just a dirty hippie. Even us former 'pub converts.
 
2012-09-03 03:56:39 PM
wookiee cookie


karnal: Interesting since only the Republicans seem to be interested in preventing voter fraud....then again, the Democrats know their base.

republican mike turzai from penn: ["Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done," he said to applause at a Republican State Committee this weekend.]

it's no accident that these voter suppression efforts disenfranchise democrats

why are you being intellectually dishonest about this?


Funny.....Is that the Dim's new buzz word? "intellectually dishonest"? Say it - say it often. How you guys fight and rail against voter id laws....must be a reason for it. Why is it wrong to have to prove you are a US citizen with the right to vote to be able to do so?
 
2012-09-03 04:04:36 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: -create public stink over unauthorized voters at the polls
-use illegal tricks to kick legit people off the roles
-on election day, millions show up but cant vote, thus proving the first point.
-since the election can only be held on one day, there cant be a do over even though the original of kicking people off the roles was illegal


This is pretty much completely in line with the GOP's SOP of "deliberately break X then trumpet that X is broken."

See: The budget, enforcement of safety regulations in oil drilling, enforcement of banking regulations, the operation of Congress, Medicare part D, preventing Medicare/Medicaid from using their purchasing power to negotiate lower drug prices thereby proving that they overpay, the public school system, infrastructure maintainence... Now we can add "voting rights" to that list I guess.

Someone should start a "List of things the GOP delibrately broke in order to claim they're broken" to go along with the LOPCATGOPATA.
 
2012-09-03 04:08:55 PM

karnal: How you guys fight and rail against voter id laws....must be a reason for it. Why is it wrong to have to prove you are a US citizen with the right to vote to be able to do so?


Poll taxes have repeatedly been ruled unconstitutional by the courts, since they have the effect of disenfranchising the poor and minorities in particular.

A voter ID law that requires possession of a state-issued ID which costs money to obtain (as they almost all do) is a de facto poll tax.

That's my main problem with it. My secondary problem with it is that all of these voter ID laws have nothing to do with preventing voter fraud (which is vanishingly rare) but are a rather transparent attempt by Republicans to disenfranchise Democratic voters for their own partisan political ends.

Same reason they oppose early voting, same reason they oppose same-day registration, same reason they oppose community organizations that focus on registering voters. The more roadblocks they can throw up to the voting process, the fewer eligible voters who are allowed to toe, the better it is for e GOP.
 
2012-09-03 04:12:00 PM
Still registered. Going to keep an eye on this, though. Thanks for the heads-up.
 
2012-09-03 04:12:37 PM
Republicans have become so blantant about rigging elections that they barely even try to hide it anymore. I mean in one state they have different voting times in democratic and republican discticts that were obviously meant to reswtrict hours in democratic areas. It stinks of desperation and I only hope that this crap just makes people angry and start a massive voter reg drive
 
2012-09-03 04:14:13 PM

IvanTheSilent: Yeah, but those of us who know you, know you're just a dirty hippie. Even us former 'pub converts.


But I showered this morning. Last night. Sometime recently.
 
2012-09-03 04:16:26 PM

Doc Daneeka: Poll taxes have repeatedly been ruled unconstitutional by the courts, since they have the effect of disenfranchising the poor and minorities in particular.


THE CONSTITUTION IS UNAMERICAN LIBERAL PROPAGANDA.
 
2012-09-03 04:17:54 PM

karnal: Why is it wrong to have to prove you are a US citizen with the right to vote to be able to do so?


I agree 100%! And I can even think of a way to implement it. Hear me out here:

In order to, you know, make sure no "noncitizens" cast a fraudulent vote, we can make them provide proof that their grandfather was a naturally born US citizen. That ought to cut down on all that FRAUD from the undesirable types, eh? Eh?
 
2012-09-03 04:20:37 PM

Doc Daneeka: A voter ID law that requires possession of a state-issued ID which costs money to obtain (as they almost all do) is a de facto poll tax.


[Citation Needed] for current ID-required states.

Damn near everything required to go out and vote requires some sort of monetary investment.*

*Offer not valid in Oregon
 
2012-09-03 04:28:48 PM
gilgigamesh

karnal: Why is it wrong to have to prove you are a US citizen with the right to vote to be able to do so?

I agree 100%! And I can even think of a way to implement it. Hear me out here:

In order to, you know, make sure no "noncitizens" cast a fraudulent vote, we can make them provide proof that their grandfather was a naturally born US citizen. That ought to cut down on all that FRAUD from the undesirable types, eh? Eh?


Doesn't sound like you are really sincere unless you use the phrase "disenfranchise Democratic voters" because that is all voter id laws do, dontchaknow? And just the Democratic voters.


/too funny
 
2012-09-03 04:31:00 PM

Doc Daneeka: karnal: How you guys fight and rail against voter id laws....must be a reason for it. Why is it wrong to have to prove you are a US citizen with the right to vote to be able to do so?

Poll taxes have repeatedly been ruled unconstitutional by the courts, since they have the effect of disenfranchising the poor and minorities in particular.

A voter ID law that requires possession of a state-issued ID which costs money to obtain (as they almost all do) is a de facto poll tax.

That's my main problem with it. My secondary problem with it is that all of these voter ID laws have nothing to do with preventing voter fraud (which is vanishingly rare) but are a rather transparent attempt by Republicans to disenfranchise Democratic voters for their own partisan political ends.

Same reason they oppose early voting, same reason they oppose same-day registration, same reason they oppose community organizations that focus on registering voters. The more roadblocks they can throw up to the voting process, the fewer eligible voters who are allowed to toe, the better it is for e GOP.



Hey, commie, that less-than-one-fraudulent-vote-per-state-per-year is THE GREATEST THREAT TO OUR FREEDOM SINCE HITLER!!!1! WE MUST ACT NOWNOWNOWNOW!!!eleven!!
 
2012-09-03 04:33:09 PM

karnal: wookiee cookie


karnal: Interesting since only the Republicans seem to be interested in preventing voter fraud....then again, the Democrats know their base.

republican mike turzai from penn: ["Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done," he said to applause at a Republican State Committee this weekend.]

it's no accident that these voter suppression efforts disenfranchise democrats

why are you being intellectually dishonest about this?

Funny.....Is that the Dim's new buzz word? "intellectually dishonest"? Say it - say it often. How you guys fight and rail against voter id laws....must be a reason for it. Why is it wrong to have to prove you are a US citizen with the right to vote to be able to do so?


yeh i made this exact charge against you elsewhere recently

"intellectually dishonest" is accurate. you intellectually know the points i'm making are correct, but you dishonestly pretend they aren't.

or you ignore them. like you're doing here. like you've done before.

that's why the term is often correctly used against cons these days. it's apt.

and at first glance, sure, it seems perfectly reasonable to have an id card to vote (as long as it's free, otherwise you're charging people just to vote, which is poll tax territory)

but these id's aren't free. but more than that, it's unreasonable to roll out these broad changes to voting rules in the months before a major election.

republicans also tried to restrict early voting on the weekends in ohio (except for veterans!), knowing full well they would be disenfranchising more dems than repubs.

they've looked for evidence of widescale in-person voter fraud. turns out it doesn't exist.

republicans want less people to vote. why? because higher voter turnout benefits democrats more than republicans.

this is con game, so to speak. everyone knows it. including you.
 
2012-09-03 04:43:14 PM

karnal: gilgigamesh

karnal: Why is it wrong to have to prove you are a US citizen with the right to vote to be able to do so?

I agree 100%! And I can even think of a way to implement it. Hear me out here:

In order to, you know, make sure no "noncitizens" cast a fraudulent vote, we can make them provide proof that their grandfather was a naturally born US citizen. That ought to cut down on all that FRAUD from the undesirable types, eh? Eh?

Doesn't sound like you are really sincere unless you use the phrase "disenfranchise Democratic voters" because that is all voter id laws do, dontchaknow? And just the Democratic voters.


/too funny


That sonic boom you just heard was the sound of the joke doing Mach-1 at about 30,000 feet over your head.
 
2012-09-03 04:46:32 PM
thanks to you guys i checked my registration.

it's active.

and i have an acceptable photo ID.

nov 6th there will be people who don't like that. too bad.
 
2012-09-03 05:10:16 PM
Wow..the derp is strong with this one. This purge is allegedly being done in secret so people don't know they are being purged. But, somehow because of the purge, it's causing Romney to be ahead of Obama in the polls.

Methinks the Obama campaign is just out scaring people....again.
 
2012-09-03 05:16:14 PM

Cataholic: Wow..the derp is strong with this one. This purge is allegedly being done in secret so people don't know they are being purged. But, somehow because of the purge, it's causing Romney to be ahead of Obama in the polls. Methinks the Obama campaign is just out scaring people....again.


What the fark are you on about?
 
2012-09-03 05:24:33 PM
Voter ID laws: A solution searching in vain for a problem.
 
2012-09-03 05:35:40 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: Voter ID laws: A solution searching in vain for a problem.


It's more like firebombing your neighborhood to get rid of a bunch of weeds taking up a square foot in your garden.
 
2012-09-03 05:52:21 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Fluorescent Testicle: Anderson's Pooper: Absolutely. If you live in Illinois your R vote will offset my grandfather's D vote. He's been dead since 1983 but hasn't missed an election since the '20's. Vote early, vote often.

You might want to know that happened back in the '60s; you're using a talking derping point that's been out of date and irrelevant for longer than most of us have been alive.

Hey, ya gotta go with what ya got...even when it's nothing


You all might want to recalibrate your snark-o-meters. Or maybe I need to be slightly more obvious. Also, Grampa did vote in an election after he died. He sent in an absentee ballot before kicking the bucket. Yes, he did vote D.
 
2012-09-03 06:01:02 PM

WizardofToast: The Dog Ate My Homework: Voter ID laws: A solution searching in vain for a problem.

It's more like firebombing your neighborhood to get rid of a bunch of weeds taking up a square foot in your garden.


Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
 
2012-09-03 06:17:06 PM

Anderson's Pooper: Lionel Mandrake: Fluorescent Testicle: Anderson's Pooper: Absolutely. If you live in Illinois your R vote will offset my grandfather's D vote. He's been dead since 1983 but hasn't missed an election since the '20's. Vote early, vote often.

You might want to know that happened back in the '60s; you're using a talking derping point that's been out of date and irrelevant for longer than most of us have been alive.

Hey, ya gotta go with what ya got...even when it's nothing

You all might want to recalibrate your snark-o-meters. Or maybe I need to be slightly more obvious. Also, Grampa did vote in an election after he died. He sent in an absentee ballot before kicking the bucket. Yes, he did vote D.


I think the politics tab may have crossed Poe's Event Horizon. There's no turning back
 
2012-09-03 06:38:48 PM

CreamFilling: If you're a Colorado Republican you might want to do the same thing, but that wouldn't be as interesting a headline.


It'll be much more interesting if any republican's are turned away on November 6. Listening to the right wing dickheads on fox quote-unquote news and talk radio complain how the "wrong" people were targeted will be priceless.
 
2012-09-03 06:50:57 PM

karnal: Doesn't sound like you are really sincere unless you use the phrase "disenfranchise Democratic voters" because that is all voter id laws do, dontchaknow? And just the Democratic voters.


/too funny


They probably don't mind some collateral damage as long as the profiling sweeps up more more of the specific target.

Statistics donchaknow.
 
2012-09-03 06:54:21 PM
 
2012-09-03 06:58:47 PM

Cataholic:
Methinks the Obama campaign is just out scaring people....again.



Socialisms Socialisms. Sound familiar. Stupidity and lies from the right. Being informed of
shenanigans from Republicans by the Democratic party equals scare tactic. Gottcha.
 
2012-09-03 07:11:46 PM

WizardofToast: The Dog Ate My Homework: Voter ID laws: A solution searching in vain for a problem.

It's more like firebombing your neighborhood to get rid of a bunch of weeds taking up a square foot in your garden.


... more like a square millimeter

/and all that needed to be done was to ramp up the punishment for the crime
//to make the risk-reward even lousier than its current state of super-ultra-freaking-duper-lousy
 
2012-09-03 07:58:42 PM
Is it just me, or is the GOP using the exact same tactics Mexican politicians used to win these past elections?.
 
2012-09-03 09:15:10 PM

CygnusDarius: Is it just me, or is the GOP using the exact same tactics Mexican politicians used to win these past elections?.


There are elections in Mexico? What else have you kept from me?!
 
2012-09-03 09:31:21 PM

karnal: wookiee cookie


karnal: Interesting since only the Republicans seem to be interested in preventing voter fraud....then again, the Democrats know their base.

republican mike turzai from penn: ["Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done," he said to applause at a Republican State Committee this weekend.]

it's no accident that these voter suppression efforts disenfranchise democrats

why are you being intellectually dishonest about this?

Funny.....Is that the Dim's new buzz word? "intellectually dishonest"? Say it - say it often. How you guys fight and rail against voter id laws....must be a reason for it. Why is it wrong to have to prove you are a US citizen with the right to vote to be able to do so?



Consider suicide sooner rather than later.
 
2012-09-03 09:32:43 PM

actualhuman: CygnusDarius: Is it just me, or is the GOP using the exact same tactics Mexican politicians used to win these past elections?.

There are elections in Mexico? What else have you kept from me?!


Carlos Mencia is not Mexican.
 
2012-09-03 11:45:53 PM
Thanks subby. Not to be too paranoid, but Republicans have been gaming the voting system by purging eligible voters on the state level.

We just checked our registration. BF is registered and active, I was registered but inactive. Fixed that. Gonna let my super liberal coworkers know that they should check their statuses as well.

\liberals? In my Colorado? It's more likely than you might think!
 
2012-09-03 11:56:26 PM
So far in this thread there were people from WI, TX and AK who found they were not on the voter registration rolls, go here to find out if you are on yours: http://www.canivote.org/
 
2012-09-04 12:33:56 AM

glassgrl: So far in this thread there were people from WI, TX and AK who found they were not on the voter registration rolls, go here to find out if you are on yours: http://www.canivote.org/


Just did so.

My status as a nonpartisan Nebraskan has not been compromised, and my polling place is still a mere two blocks away from my house. I should be ready to rock in November.

/was a good idea to check, though, just in case
 
2012-09-04 01:25:37 AM

Strix occidentalis: glassgrl: So far in this thread there were people from WI, TX and AK who found they were not on the voter registration rolls, go here to find out if you are on yours: http://www.canivote.org/

Just did so.

My status as a nonpartisan Nebraskan has not been compromised, and my polling place is still a mere two blocks away from my house. I should be ready to rock in November.

/was a good idea to check, though, just in case


Yep, I too am non partisan registered and seem to still be intact down at the recorders office. Glad I checked though.
I made a facebook post on this issue. Slacktivism, I know, but folks should check and make sure while there is still time.
 
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