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(New York Daily News)   Cops recovered two handguns, 26 magazines, 10,537 rounds of ammunition, 32 machetes, 60 knives, 16 air pistols, an air rifle, seven tasers, eight brass knuckles, nine batons and 10 handcuffs, upon executing a search warrant   (nydailynews.com) divider line 233
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2012-09-03 12:41:46 PM

twiztedjustin: 2 hand guns, legal under the 2nd Amendment, and a bunch of toys.

What is so "scary" about that?


Same question, troll word removed, except I'm deadly serious. I have more ACTUAL guns at my house, but with the good sense not to fire them in the air in a residential district.

Arsenal: you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
 
2012-09-03 12:52:17 PM
It wasn't just the two unlicensed handguns that'll hang him. Here in the People's Republic of New York, tasers and brass knuckles are felonies as well. Just having something that LOOKS like a brass knuckle is a trip to the cooler here.
If he was popping off rounds in his yard, he's an idiot to the tenth power. As hard as it is to get handguns legally here in NYS, he's an insult. I'm with the "he's an illegal dealer" camp as regards the other crap they found, ammo, machetes and whatnot. The airsofts were probably for the dudes without the cheese for real steel.
 
2012-09-03 01:04:19 PM
Why does no one seem to care that every sensationalized gun story lately involves someone illegally obtaining or carrying firearms? So these people are not following the law, how are more laws going to make them listen?
 
2012-09-03 01:22:21 PM
Come on Fark! You're slipping!

This is NOTING to worry about. The police just stumbled into on of Jack Bauer's store houses.
 
2012-09-03 01:24:56 PM

Pribar: [i135.photobucket.com image 800x602]



Hell if 2 is a arsenal then what do I have?


You have only one. The Mk II...

It is excellent. You can take that one and toss the rest although you should fire off a magazine of the Jennings and see if it falls apart in your hand (you can even find that chambered in .32 btw). If it doesn't then sell it to a gang banger friend as a booby trap.
 
2012-09-03 01:36:57 PM
cops investigating reports of shots fired in the air in front of his home

so there was no proof that he actually fired the shots? firecrackers? drive by?

2 .22 pistols? tons of ammo and magazines he did not have weapons for? yeah, he is either crazy or is getting framed
 
2012-09-03 01:57:44 PM
Was it necessary to kill Mr. Warrant?
i.imgur.com
Isn't there enough violence already?
 
2012-09-03 02:27:11 PM

Ontos: 10k rounds is a "mountain" of ammunition?

Since when? shiat, I have that much in 5.56 just behind the couch.


It is only bad when you have that many between your couch cushions.

By the way, why the usename?
 
2012-09-03 02:30:06 PM
And tangentially related, there was a situation over on this coast where a big shipment of AR-15 replica air rifles from China turned out to be modifiable to be functional weapons. The receivers were 2 parts away from being actual semi-auto .223 or 5.56 rigs. You could buy the airguns from a corner store, then turn around an order the other parts from online suppliers and bam: you have a fully functional rifle totally under the radar. The BATFE only legally defines the receiver as the "firearm" so ordering the other parts online doesn't require any extra paperwork.

Sure it is possible, but I think anyone trying to do that would get themselves killed.
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/02/28/airsoft-gun-seizure-appar e ntly-toys-can-be-real-guns/
 
2012-09-03 02:53:04 PM
This is Charleton Heston's stash.

infectedtube.com

This clown in Queens is an amateur.
 
2012-09-03 02:55:58 PM

Click Click D'oh: Kibbler: If you were firing one round per second, and each clip had 20 rounds...

I tried to put a 20 round clip in my M1 once. The bolt wouldn't close. So I tried it in my Albanian SKS. No luck there either. For some reason, all my clip fed firearms won't function with extended clips.


That's because you try to pack the magazine to it's limit and the spring pressure is too great. Try only 15 rounds or 25 in a 30.
 
2012-09-03 03:04:10 PM

sycraft: Jim_Callahan: //26 magazines means there were more than two handguns at one point. Probably 11 more.

Not necessarily. While handguns only come with a couple magazines, people often buy more. I have seven for my XDm. It came with two in the box, a coupon for three more free. I then got two on sale. So why seven? Well generally when I go to the range I go to shoot 100 rounds, two boxes, with it (I tend to bring two or three guns and usually a 100 rounds for each). I like to have all the magazines loaded at home. Much more comfortable to load them while watching TV than to do it in the heat of the outdoor range. The mags are 19 round so 5 doesn't quite do it. Then I like to have one extra, unloaded, in case I should find one has a problem and need to unload and reload in to a different one.

Given that they aren't all that expensive (particularly when I got 5 with the gun) there's no reason not to do it that way IMO.

Now in this case it looks like the dude was just pack ratting them for whatever reason. He has a bunch still in their retail box. As I said in my other post, someone needs to tell him Glock mags aren't collectibles, it is ok to take them out of the box and use them.


Last election, ammo and magazine prices jumped right along with firearms.

Considering the guy is in NYC draconian rule zone, stocking up on firearms would be a pain, but grabbing a couple dozen 1k bricks and some magazines isn't. A lucky person might be able to turn around and sell those the day after Obama wins for twice, or three times the price paid.

/Everybody feels foolish on the gun rush last time, but won't admit it, so it's not a sure bet this election.
//Neither is an Obama win.
 
2012-09-03 03:19:41 PM

stevarooni: Englebert Slaptyback: Wait 'til you see the shipping charges...

If eBay taught me anything, it's to read the fine print before pulling the trigger (so to speak) on a transaction. I like GrabAGun for their prices and selection, but the site's setup is crappy; takes half an hour to find something even when you know exactly what you want. But they did have a Chiappa Rhino 40DS for a couple hundred less than anyone in town.


Dick! I have been looking at the Rhinos and they have the 20DS Blk at 100 less than everybody else I have looked at.

Temptation....
 
2012-09-03 03:59:02 PM

Dextro: Gyrfalcon: twiztedjustin: 2 hand guns, legal under the 2nd Amendment, and a bunch of toys.

What is so "scary" about that, libmitter?

That somebody would want 32 machetes who wasn't the Zeta cartel is kind of scary to me.

Why?


Because he can cut off 64 heads before he has to stop and resharpen!
 
2012-09-03 04:53:14 PM

Aigoo: twiztedjustin: 2 hand guns, legal under the 2nd Amendment, and a bunch of toys.

What is so "scary" about that?

Same question, troll word removed, except I'm deadly serious. I have more ACTUAL guns at my house, but with the good sense not to fire them in the air in a residential district.

Arsenal: you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


That's it. He's not a responsible gun owner. In this case, the cops haven't persecuted a responsible citizen who is simply exercising his constitutional right, they took away an idiot who has more handguns than brain cells.

So let me turn it around: Why is anyone on here trying to defend this guy or make it sound like the cops are doing a BAD thing?

Oh, and maybe arsenal is journalist word like AK-47, but it means "more guns that I have."

/And put me down as also wondering what sort of person looks at his collection of 15 machetes and says "I could use another".
 
2012-09-03 05:29:36 PM

imsol: Do Americans realise that threads like this make you sound like a bunch of complete morons?

People flexing over owning more guns than the crazy guy.

People justifying a civillian who owns several pairs of handcuffs, which you can only pray are for sex play.

People just plain ignoring a man who OWNS 32 MACHETES in an urban area no less, he aint planning on doing no serious gardening.

Others claiming a guy who owns that much weaponary, and fires shots into the air for shiats and giggles, just needs a stern talking to?

Holy fk, you guys don't have the faintest clue what's wrong with you.

And when a loner, with a massive cache of legally obtained weaponary kills a whole lot of people, it happens so often your first instinct is, my cold dead hands.

You don't have the faintest clue what a downward slide your society is on, Citzens United, Death of the argument over the right to bear arms. No one is going to invade the US so you nutcases will be able to re-enact Red Dawn.

You guys are going to stuff up that lovely country all on your crazy own.


6/10
 
2012-09-03 06:23:26 PM

INeedAName: I know all the gun nuts want to immediately cry about this shiat, but this sentence explains it: Michael Millazzo, 53, of Shore Blvd. in Astoria, was arrested by cops investigating reports of shots fired in the air in front of his home on Aug. 26.

He fired his gun off into the air, in a residential area, and the police executed a warrant to search. This is the exact jackarse you guys should be lambasting for giving real gun nuts a bad name.

First thing I was ever taught about handling a gun, never point it at something you don't intend to kill.

/Grew up in a hunting family, but I always got bored sitting in the woods for hours on end.


You know how I know you haven't read the thread...?

There are a lot of "gun nuts" in here who posted that they are glad he got nailed for doing something that stupid.

They're also laughing at the press calling "2 pistols" an "arsenal".
 
2012-09-03 08:01:46 PM

Kibbler: I wonder, would 10,000 rounds be considered a lot?

How about 100,000? No?

1,000,000?

Would you consider 10,000,000 rounds to be "a lot"?

100,000,000?

Would it take a billion rounds before you would concede, "OK that's a lot--a disturbing number--of rounds"? Or would you continue to insist, "No, there's no limit, if the guy can fit 100 billion rounds into his apartment, then more power to him"?

Unless his name was Mohammed al Baqr of course. THOSE people are CRAZY.


Bulk prices are cheaper, so I can easily imagine someone having 1000 rounds of shotshells, couple of thousand 9mm a couple thousand .357, couple of thousand rifle rounds, 5k .223 ammo... 10,000 isn't really extreme, just a guy who shoots a LOT. I ordered 440 rounds of rifle ammo just because it was a good price for less common 7.62x54R rounds for my bolt-action rifle, and I don't shoot often.

100,000 seems an awful lot to me, but not necessarily crazy. If they have a LOT of different calibers and some are hard-to-find and the guy and his family basically shoots all the time as their hobby, that would seem more obsessed than I am with Civ4 and Moo2, and maybe unhealthy.

1m seems crazy.
 
2012-09-03 08:27:07 PM

jafiwam: Dick! I have been looking at the Rhinos and they have the 20DS Blk at 100 less than everybody else I have looked at.

Temptation....


It's a very fun gun (40DS is, anyway). Two things, though: First, it doesn't actually reduce the recoil, it just aligns it with your forearm, so the muzzle flip really is almost nothing (even as the .357 Magnum force presses hard against the meat of your hand). Secondly, some of the controls could use some work, they're a little...not perfect. The cylinder release is stiff, and moves awkwardly downward rather than forward as does a S&W's release. The charging hammer (not a true hammer; it doesn't stay cocked back) feels like it's poised on the end of a lever, so that if you pull back the wrong way it might bend or slip. This hasn't happened, but this is just the awkwardness of the gun. And the trigger is a little stiff for some. There's room for improvement, but putting the barrel at 6 o'clock makes a huge difference in muzzle flip.
 
2012-09-03 09:32:56 PM

Spare Me: This is Charleton Heston's stash.

[infectedtube.com image 850x544]

This clown in Queens is an amateur.


Why does he have college dorm furniture? It's the only flaw in that room.
 
2012-09-03 09:33:38 PM

Spare Me: This is Charleton Heston's stash.

[infectedtube.com image 850x544]

This clown in Queens is an amateur.


I've partied in better vaults.
But my lips are sealed.
 
2012-09-03 10:13:14 PM

Kibbler: I wonder, would 10,000 rounds be considered a lot?

How about 100,000? No?


There's a fine line between serious collector and hobby dealer / trader(which is what this guy sounds like).

So, no. No amount is automatically a "nutjob" level of ammo in and of itself. Same goes for toys and machete's.
 
2012-09-03 10:19:16 PM
/local legality as an aside for my above post
 
2012-09-03 10:54:25 PM
When is two handguns EVER an arsenal? Airguns, machetes? Come on...
 
2012-09-03 11:33:31 PM

Spare Me: I tried to put a 20 round clip in my M1 once. The bolt wouldn't close. So I tried it in my Albanian SKS. No luck there either. For some reason, all my clip fed firearms won't function with extended clips.

That's because you try to pack the magazine to it's limit and the spring pressure is too great. Try only 15 rounds or 25 in a 30.


It's a clip/magazine terminology joke. A magazine is an ammunition feeding device(typically has a spring in it). A 'clip' is merely a storage/holding system for ammo. Do a google search on the weapons he listed... Both, in their original setup, are internal magazine rifles fed by actual clips, from the top down through the open bolt. In the case of the SKS, stripper clips(IE the rounds are stripped off the clip as you load the magazine via an enthusiastic push straight down/in), and in the case of the M1 'En Bloc' clip, the clip goes into the magazine with the rounds; when you fire the last round the empty clip is ejected with a 'ping'.

Thus, a 'high capacity clip' would still be sticking up, blocking the bolt, when inserted. Modification kits exist to convert the SKS to a removable magazine rifle taking AK47 magazines, but everything I've read says that they're unreliable POS. Not sure about the M1, it's built a lot heavier and there's not a common market for 30.06 magazines; they might exist but I haven't heard about them.
 
2012-09-04 12:53:53 AM

Firethorn: Modification kits exist to convert the SKS to a removable magazine rifle taking AK47 magazines, but everything I've read says that they're unreliable POS.


They also sell SKS-specific magazines; disassemble the gun and remove the fixed magazine, and the SKS magazine works...with mixed results based on production run. The magazine has this massive arm that can be difficult to use until you're used to it (and doesn't work so well with wood stocks).
 
2012-09-04 01:05:13 AM

stevarooni: They also sell SKS-specific magazines; disassemble the gun and remove the fixed magazine, and the SKS magazine works...with mixed results based on production run. The magazine has this massive arm that can be difficult to use until you're used to it (and doesn't work so well with wood stocks).


So we have another modification* that in exchange for modifying the rifle less requires custom, unwieldy, and STILL often unreliable magazines? At least AK magazines are cheap and readily available.

*You're going to have to modify the rifle; taking the original magazine off if nothing else.
 
2012-09-04 08:41:29 AM

Firethorn: So we have another modification* that in exchange for modifying the rifle less requires custom, unwieldy, and STILL often unreliable magazines? At least AK magazines are cheap and readily available.

*You're going to have to modify the rifle; taking the original magazine off if nothing else.


:D Yes. If you happen to get one with a good spring, they're reliable, it just takes some practice to load a magazine with proficiency. In terms of availability, though, Cabelas certainly carries them, in-store and online. Still, turns out...the SKS is not the ideal modern combat rifle, in several ways.

On the other hand, I have friends who swear by it as a deer hunting rifle.
 
2012-09-04 09:35:23 AM

stevarooni: On the other hand, I have friends who swear by it as a deer hunting rifle.


I don't think it's bad as one at all either. It's enjoyable to shoot and a neat piece of history, but one should remember that it IS rather out of date as far as military tech goes.
 
2012-09-04 10:10:42 AM

Firethorn: I don't think it's bad as one at all either. It's enjoyable to shoot and a neat piece of history, but one should remember that it IS rather out of date as far as military tech goes.


But you can arm an entire troop of girl scouts with sks's for the same price as one AR platform. Which would be more deadly? 15 armed girls that are experiencing their monthly "brain chemistry change" for the first time or one weekend warrior, who has only used his $2000+ tacool AR to punch holes in paper. I guess it depends on the tactics of the battle space. :-)
 
2012-09-04 10:48:21 AM
Eh, even Mosin-Nagants are getting pricey, these days! $150 a pop, at a recent gun show, and SKSs were running in the $300+ range. And a similarly-equipped, fairly cheap AR-15 (i.e. nothing beyond the stock) was running in the $700 range.
 
2012-09-04 11:32:07 AM
Yikes! $300+ for an sks? scary. I have to get out more. Back on topic: I'm thinking the cops didn't find this guys OTHER guns. You know, the rifles that actually use those magazines and bullets. So glad I live in a state where 10000 bullets are considered good enough for a few months supply.

And remember kids, listen to Tio Chango! "Temperature cycles and humility are the enemy of bullets" So always store your long term ammo supply at a constant temperature in a desiccated sealed box.
 
2012-09-04 11:59:41 PM

MonoChango: Firethorn: I don't think it's bad as one at all either. It's enjoyable to shoot and a neat piece of history, but one should remember that it IS rather out of date as far as military tech goes.

But you can arm an entire troop of girl scouts with sks's for the same price as one AR platform. Which would be more deadly? 15 armed girls that are experiencing their monthly "brain chemistry change" for the first time or one weekend warrior, who has only used his $2000+ tacool AR to punch holes in paper. I guess it depends on the tactics of the battle space. :-)


Like Stevarooni said, it's more like 2:1, assuming a relatively 'stock' AR-15. It's the bling like tactical scopes that make AR-15s expensive,
 
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