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(New York Daily News)   Cops recovered two handguns, 26 magazines, 10,537 rounds of ammunition, 32 machetes, 60 knives, 16 air pistols, an air rifle, seven tasers, eight brass knuckles, nine batons and 10 handcuffs, upon executing a search warrant   (nydailynews.com) divider line 233
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2012-09-03 02:04:35 AM

Uisce Beatha: Mythbusters also said jumping on a grenade wouldn't save other people nearby, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary, so take their safety advice with a hearty grain of salt.


Update: A minute with google turned up this, showing the complete opposite of what you said:
A hero could save his buddies by ... covering a grenade with his own body.
confirmed
During the control test, the Mythbusters detonated a grenade with no obstacles with several plywood dummies around it at varying distances. The shrapnel inflicted lethal injuries on most of the dummies. For the actual test, the Mythbusters planted a ballistics gel dummy over the grenade before detonating it. While the ballistics gel dummy was completely destroyed, only one of the plywood dummies suffered any severe damage, and what damage was caused was not lethal. While the hero would undoubtedly die in the attempt, he would be able to save his comrades nearby.
 
2012-09-03 02:05:13 AM
Pfft. You should see three amo and weapons my fallout 3 character carried.
 
2012-09-03 02:05:34 AM

Great Janitor: corn-bread: Ok, so he discharged a weapon into the air within city limits. That appears to be a Class A misdemeanor in New York.

He also had an additional firearm, bladed weapons, and 10,000+ rounds of ammo.
So? Is there additional information I'm missing which indicates he is otherwise unfit to own these weapons?

Maybe living in Texas for so long has jaded me, but I'm not seeing the big deal here. Charge him appropriately for discharging the weapon, lecture him sternly about firearms safety, and call it a day.

Only a misdemeanor??? I thought firing a gun into the air was a felony everywhere.


Discharge into the air without discernible property damage or injury is generally a misdemeanor. The kind of felony you're thinking of may kick in if the weapon is aimed in the general vicinity of a person or occupied building.

That said, I too was surprised it was so minor in New York, I expected it would be more severe there.
 
2012-09-03 02:07:23 AM

ladyfortuna: Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that in the photo, at least, there are more like 9 hand guns...


i think those are airsoft guns.

16 air pistols, an air rifle
 
2012-09-03 02:08:01 AM

GAT_00: Also, why all that and only two actual guns?


Seriously, and handguns no less? The triggers would fall off before he squeezed off all those rounds.
 
2012-09-03 02:09:36 AM

Great Janitor: corn-bread: Ok, so he discharged a weapon into the air within city limits. That appears to be a Class A misdemeanor in New York.

He also had an additional firearm, bladed weapons, and 10,000+ rounds of ammo.
So? Is there additional information I'm missing which indicates he is otherwise unfit to own these weapons?

Maybe living in Texas for so long has jaded me, but I'm not seeing the big deal here. Charge him appropriately for discharging the weapon, lecture him sternly about firearms safety, and call it a day.

Only a misdemeanor??? I thought firing a gun into the air was a felony everywhere.


FYI: It is a misdemeanor in Texas too.
 
2012-09-03 02:13:35 AM
Took subby a lot of words to say "two handguns". Really? like 10k rounds makes any difference if you've got two measly handguns? You think he's getting 10 THOUSAND shots off?
 
2012-09-03 02:20:28 AM
Yeah well, a lot of folks did call him "Two-Gun" but that wasn't because he was sporting two pistols. That was because he had a dick that was so big it was longer than the barrel of that Walker Colt that he carried. Now if Corky would have really had two guns instead of just a big dick he could have defended himself to the end.
 
2012-09-03 02:30:04 AM

Richard Saunders: Twenty-six magazines? Hell, that's nothing. My grandmother has every issue of National Geographic since 1968.


Oh, the collages I could make.....
 
2012-09-03 02:37:09 AM

loudboy: Amazing how many comments here and in TFA seem to miss the point that this nut FIRED HIS GUN INTO THE AIR in a residential area. That's third-world shiat right there, and I don't take kindly to it.


/If he fired it straight up it would hurt, but not kill. Mythbusters said so.


They also didn't say what gun he fired 'into the air'. Look at the facts here... He has TWO HANDGUNS... that's 2. That's the only real guns listed. Then they list the knifes, and air guns. He could have been shooting an air gun you know. It might be illegal but come on it's not scarey. Take a look at that picture they used to show his guns. I see more than two hand guns which leads me to beleive that's not even his guns. This is propanganda bs to scare dumb people. This guy has knives and brass knuckles... big freaking deal the military has nuclear submarines and remote control drones that shoot missles into the air and kill civilians. Two freaking hand guns... big freaking deal.
 
2012-09-03 02:39:02 AM
Don't shoot in the air in a crowded urban setting. What goes up must go down.

Anyway, 32 is a lot of machetes.
 
2012-09-03 02:42:58 AM
Mr. Ekshun: I don't get the "scary" thing either - he can only use one effectively at a time.We don't assume that someone with a drawer full of forks is going to use all of them against every piece of food they see, do we?

/Except for Americans, that is.



oh c'mon! you can't eat doritos with a fork!
 
2012-09-03 02:50:34 AM

Pribar: [i135.photobucket.com image 800x602]



Hell if 2 is a arsenal then what do I have?

z

A few decent handguns. Although those Jennings/ Jiminez (or whatever the hell those Saturday night specials are) are lovely for removing fingers and generally farking a person's life up.
 
2012-09-03 03:15:32 AM

Bucky Katt: Don't shoot in the air in a crowded urban setting. What goes up must go down.

Anyway, 32 is a lot of machetes.


Mhm. He sounds Rwandan.
 
2012-09-03 03:19:33 AM

EatenTheSun: What 10,000 rounds of ammo may look like.

[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 220x220]


Really? Camo?

What, so they can't see it comin?

/shrug
 
2012-09-03 03:22:05 AM

Firethorn: Update: A minute with google turned up this, showing the complete opposite of what you said:


Huh - I stand corrected. In my defense, I generally fall asleep when the kids start watching Mythbusters.
 
2012-09-03 03:28:04 AM
THAT's a massive arsenal?

I have more than that in one drawer.
 
2012-09-03 03:29:10 AM

GAT_00: Also, why all that and only two actual guns?


Weapons collectors do that.

10,000 rounds of ammo is not much, lots of guys wish they'd bought ten times that back when it was cheap. I've got more than that in .22 on a shelf right behind me.

Im assuming its illegal to own the firearms where he lives and thats what the big stink is about, otherwise that just sounds like a lonely guy whose only hobby is collecting machetes.

But I do love how the report ends with...... "its not clear what he planned to do with it all"

Um, its way way more than one person could move, so he was just going to keep collecting it. He didnt even bother opening the extra magazines, and didnt keep them loaded so he wasnt planning a bloody stand off with police. He probably has a lot of photos on the internet of himself holding various knives. As long as he wasnt mentally ill theres no real danger in it beyond ammo cooking off in a house fire. You should invest in a gun safe or a flammable storage locker for your ammo. Something with a rating for staying cool inside until the fire department shows up. If you have a lot of ammo, a flammables locker is going to be the cheaper route.
 
2012-09-03 03:32:07 AM

whcrow: ladyfortuna: Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that in the photo, at least, there are more like 9 hand guns...

i think those are airsoft guns.

16 air pistols, an air rifle


OMG I just put that together, they put toys on the table like a mexican drug bust photo. How farking pathetic. Im surprised they didnt put his stack of guns-n-ammo magazines up there cause there are scary pictures inside.
 
2012-09-03 03:32:49 AM

archichris: whcrow: ladyfortuna: Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that in the photo, at least, there are more like 9 hand guns...

i think those are airsoft guns.

16 air pistols, an air rifle

OMG I just put that together, they put toys on the table like a mexican drug bust photo. How farking pathetic. Im surprised they didnt put his stack of guns-n-ammo magazines up there cause there are scary pictures inside.


He could cause startlement with those airsofts....... Maybe even mild redness of the epidermis.
 
2012-09-03 03:35:31 AM

Farty McPooPants: Arrested for owning 5 rifles and a handgun? Why do locales get to pick what amendments they get to have? 

What if your city decided a free press wasn't in their best interest? Or the right to vote?


FTFA: "Michael Millazzo, 53, of Shore Blvd. in Astoria, was arrested by cops investigating reports of shots fired in the air in front of his home on Aug. 26."


I would say this warrants a "looking into" at the very least.


AND! They include a free plug for an ammo shop right in the article for your convenience!
/gun owner
/cold dead hands
 
2012-09-03 03:41:16 AM

Bucky Katt: Don't shoot in the air in a crowded urban setting. What goes up must go down.

Anyway, 32 is a lot of machetes.


He could be going on a jungle safari with his friends.
 
2012-09-03 04:03:33 AM

Oh_Enough_Already: corn-bread: Ok, so he discharged a weapon into the air within city limits. That appears to be a Class A misdemeanor in New York.

He also had an additional firearm, bladed weapons, and 10,000+ rounds of ammo.
So? Is there additional information I'm missing which indicates he is otherwise unfit to own these weapons?

Maybe living in Texas for so long has jaded me, but I'm not seeing the big deal here. Charge him appropriately for discharging the weapon, lecture him sternly about firearms safety, and call it a day.

You're mistaking New York City for the United States of America.


Be careful, we're coming up on the day that you have to pretend you feel sorry for those who died when America was attacked. Don't want to have a slip-up on that day.

Don't worry, there's 364 other days a year you can openly call all the people who live there un-American "My delusional faux-news infromed version of what liberals are"-Liberal communist marxist "left-wing" freedom-hating traitors. Feel free to mix in other random perjoratives as they come to mind, since that's how most of these things go.
 
2012-09-03 04:11:11 AM
...And a Partridge in a Pear Tree.?
 
2012-09-03 04:50:40 AM
If I were a cop I'd find this guy highly suspicious. Why do you need that many bladed weapons in an apartment? In farking NYC. I don't see any reason why putting this guy in jail for a 72-hour hold while you make sure whether he wasn't the guy shooting into the air, and placing the weapons into temporary police custody (the media loves the word 'confiscate' when half the time that's not what happens) is anything short of prudent in an urban area where the police force is tasked with ensuring the safety of MORE THAN TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND PEOPLE PER SQUARE MILE. IT IS NOT TEXAS.

And tangentially related, there was a situation over on this coast where a big shipment of AR-15 replica air rifles from China turned out to be modifiable to be functional weapons. The receivers were 2 parts away from being actual semi-auto .223 or 5.56 rigs. You could buy the airguns from a corner store, then turn around an order the other parts from online suppliers and bam: you have a fully functional rifle totally under the radar. The BATFE only legally defines the receiver as the "firearm" so ordering the other parts online doesn't require any extra paperwork.

/There's a Glock Model 23 .40 within 30 feet of me as I type this.
 
2012-09-03 04:52:04 AM
"He's not all there. He's just odd," Alevreas said.

That's the sort of thing I want my odd, not-all-there neighbor to see me quoted in the paper as saying.
 
2012-09-03 04:57:19 AM
Maybe he was saving up to build a throne
 
2012-09-03 05:01:42 AM

ongbok: Was it this guy?
[www.funnypictures.net.au image 400x300]


Expected this.

Disturbing.

lizyrd: "He's not all there. He's just odd," Alevreas said.

That's the sort of thing I want my odd, not-all-there neighbor to see me quoted in the paper as saying.


Yeah.
 
2012-09-03 05:07:03 AM
The Raid: Redemption.
 
2012-09-03 05:18:32 AM

Salmon: The Raid: Redemption.


Don't spoil it! I have the disc at home to watch this week sometime. I was going to watch it this weekend but I talked my wife in to watching Nude Nuns with Big Guns and The Expendables so I held off on The Raid: Redemption.
 
2012-09-03 05:35:28 AM
Oh no, he has a massive quantity of legal items. Let's all freak out about it and act like there's something wrong with that.

Well actually I think the brass knuckles might be illegal.

Particularly all the bladed weapons. People do collect knives you know. It is a hobby.
 
2012-09-03 05:48:38 AM

INeedAName: I know all the gun nuts want to immediately cry about this shiat, but this sentence explains it: Michael Millazzo, 53, of Shore Blvd. in Astoria, was arrested by cops investigating reports of shots fired in the air in front of his home on Aug. 26.

He fired his gun off into the air, in a residential area, and the police executed a warrant to search. This is the exact jackarse you guys should be lambasting for giving real gun nuts a bad name.

First thing I was ever taught about handling a gun, never point it at something you don't intend to kill.

/Grew up in a hunting family, but I always got bored sitting in the woods for hours on end.


Maybe he intended to kill the moon?
 
2012-09-03 05:56:08 AM

FormlessOne: LowbrowDeluxe: 32? Were these special collector's edition machetes? No? Then I don't care if you derp so hard you herp trying to turn this guy into a 2nd amendment hero, dude has issues.

/I do like the person above who compared guys like this to the manly version of crazy cat ladies. So, so, so right.

The circumstances can mitigate - for example, I own a handful of knives, a kukri, two machetes, two swords, one boar spear, two bows, at least 72 arrows, a pellet rifle, and until recently, a service revolver. Could be construed as an "arsenal", unless you knew that my wife and I are SCA members, and her dad used to be a county sheriff.

However, this guy does sound a bit... overencumbered, shall we say...


Seems a little light to me. Nothing should be construed an arsenal unless you have multiples of the same calibre weapon or can outfit a number of people.

/ Serious.
 
2012-09-03 06:02:09 AM

Pribar: [i135.photobucket.com image 800x602]



Hell if 2 is a arsenal then what do I have?


A whole lot of cheap crap.

/I keed; I collect Iver Johnsons, too. .32 hammerless safety automatic, 1900 in both .22 and .38 S&W, .38 safety hammer. Need a Sealed 8. Difficulty factor: nothing made after 1940.
//The line between collector and hoarder is a fine one.
///Guy lives in Queens. Not allowed to collect handguns without a difficult-to-obtain permit. If he doesn't like it, he should move.
 
2012-09-03 06:05:53 AM

ladyfortuna: Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that in the photo, at least, there are more like 9 hand guns...


Airsoft pistols =/= handguns.
 
2012-09-03 06:07:49 AM
I do have to wonder why the hell he'd have so much ammo for two guns. I understand having a fair bit. I buy ammo online because it is cheap and to make it cheap, you have to buy in bulk. Blocks of 1000 are the normal size at which it is cheapest per round (that is the wholesale bulk size, normally the little boxes come in big boxes totaling 1000). However 10k round for at most two calibers? Seems kinda silly. Unless you are talking .22LR, that is easy to get more of since 5k is the cheap amount for it.

To me though the machetes are stranger. I mean I understand liking something and collecting it, but who really has 20 machetes and says "Know what I need? More machetes!" I just don't see there being that many different kinds to make it interesting/worth it.

Also the magazines are rather weird. Not having a bunch, that makes sense (you load them in front of the TV before going to the range so you don't have to waste time there reloading) but the fact that so many seemed to be kept in the original packaging. Maybe someone needs to tell him that Glock mags aren't collectibles, there's tens of millions out there. It is ok to open them up.

Whatever the case it is way blown out of proportion for the sake of a story. Notice how they stack all the air guns out there to make it look like a fearsome arsenal, despite those being, literally, toys. Two guns is not a lot. Hell around here I think if the cops find you with only tow guns they give you third :P.
 
2012-09-03 06:27:55 AM

randomjsa: Oh no, he has a massive quantity of legal items. Let's all freak out about it and act like there's something wrong with that.

Well actually I think the brass knuckles might be illegal.

Particularly all the bladed weapons. People do collect knives you know. It is a hobby.


For me the disturbing part is that this guy is shooting his guns in the air in a residential neighborhood. Collecting the knives and guns by itself isn't disturbing. But add his collection to the fact that he doesn't have the self control and common sense not to fire a gun in the air in a neighborhood, and you get scary.
 
2012-09-03 06:35:44 AM
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-03 07:05:09 AM

URAPNIS: In other news, someone was found with 2,000 baseball cards and some comic books.

Oh, noes!!!


You mean "2000 concealable edged weapons and myriad publications condoning vigilante violence!"
 
2012-09-03 07:12:44 AM

Lsherm: I'm glad they got him on firing his gun into the air, but if he hadn't done something stupid like that, he really only owns two handguns. He has magazines for guns he didn't have, and I'm guessing not all of that ammunition was for the two handguns.

Maybe he sells this stuff on the street.


Probably this. This sounds like a "nabbing Al Capone on tax evasion" type arrest to me. Probably doing something more illegal that they just couldn't get the data to charge him on.

//26 magazines means there were more than two handguns at one point. Probably 11 more.
//The ammo isn't really indicative of anything on its own, though, if you buy off the internet it comes in like crates of 5000. Or, if they're .22LR pistols, you literally buy ammo by the bucket.
 
2012-09-03 07:21:35 AM

Jim_Callahan: Lsherm: I'm glad they got him on firing his gun into the air, but if he hadn't done something stupid like that, he really only owns two handguns. He has magazines for guns he didn't have, and I'm guessing not all of that ammunition was for the two handguns.

Maybe he sells this stuff on the street.

Probably this. This sounds like a "nabbing Al Capone on tax evasion" type arrest to me. Probably doing something more illegal that they just couldn't get the data to charge him on.

//26 magazines means there were more than two handguns at one point. Probably 11 more.
//The ammo isn't really indicative of anything on its own, though, if you buy off the internet it comes in like crates of 5000. Or, if they're .22LR pistols, you literally buy ammo by the bucket.


I think he's just a nutball hoarder. If he were dealing stuff, it wouldn't be as weird and random. I mean, 32 machetes? For reals?
 
2012-09-03 07:54:36 AM
"...cops investigating reports of shots fired in the air..."


Sounds like a set up to me. Like getting pulled over forcrossing the centerline.
 
2012-09-03 07:59:24 AM
Today on "Internet Tough Guy" - this comment thread.
 
2012-09-03 08:20:21 AM
assets.nydailynews.com

"Two handguns"?

The NYPD can't even count to potato.
 
2012-09-03 08:24:31 AM
Oh, wait...those must be the air pistols.

So...they caught a guy with two handguns. Isn't that about average in the USA?
 
2012-09-03 08:32:38 AM
bbsimg.ngfiles.com

Crazy neighbors.
 
2012-09-03 08:34:44 AM
My hoarding of big plastic bags of cat shiat doesn't seem so bad, now, does it?
 
2012-09-03 08:42:42 AM

Pribar: [i135.photobucket.com image 800x602]



Hell if 2 is a arsenal then what do I have?


According to Mayor Banberg you'd be some kind of nefarious, illegal weapons dealer
 
2012-09-03 09:05:27 AM
68.169.81.135
And one of these..
 
2012-09-03 09:08:43 AM

Jim_Callahan: //26 magazines means there were more than two handguns at one point. Probably 11 more.


Not necessarily. While handguns only come with a couple magazines, people often buy more. I have seven for my XDm. It came with two in the box, a coupon for three more free. I then got two on sale. So why seven? Well generally when I go to the range I go to shoot 100 rounds, two boxes, with it (I tend to bring two or three guns and usually a 100 rounds for each). I like to have all the magazines loaded at home. Much more comfortable to load them while watching TV than to do it in the heat of the outdoor range. The mags are 19 round so 5 doesn't quite do it. Then I like to have one extra, unloaded, in case I should find one has a problem and need to unload and reload in to a different one.

Given that they aren't all that expensive (particularly when I got 5 with the gun) there's no reason not to do it that way IMO.

Now in this case it looks like the dude was just pack ratting them for whatever reason. He has a bunch still in their retail box. As I said in my other post, someone needs to tell him Glock mags aren't collectibles, it is ok to take them out of the box and use them.
 
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