Bill_Wick's_Friend: A few summers ago three men were going to set out on a trail that starts near my house (near whistler) and hike to Coquitlam, east of Vancouver. Two of the men bailed at the last minute but the third guy decided to go alone, even though his friends had the water and the tents and some other critical gear.He disappeared, swallowed up by thousands of square km of Crown Land.I'm an experienced hiker and I mentioned to a friend of mine, also very experienced, that I'd never even heard of this trail. He hadn't either. We finally found details in an old trail guide. Seemed gnarly and long and extreme. Given that we'd never heard of it (and most trail guides hadn't either) we assumed it wasn't exactly a well-used or well-maintained trail.I'd be tempted to say "Good, let the guy rot. Darwin wins.", but I know too many SAR people who spent days/weeks looking for this lost idiot before the search was called off. For them it's a demoralizing and difficult and often heart-breaking job finding bodies and having to coordinate "dead-evac" or, as in this case, finding nothing and just leaving knowing he's out there (probably dead) somewhere and will likely never be found. For them, there's no sense of "stupid guy gets what he probably deserved". For them it's a permanent question mark of "could we have done more?" and "What if we'd searched one more day..?"The signs at most trailheads ask "if you get lost today, will anyone know? If you get hurt or lost, are you prepared?". I take that very seriously. I can never understand why people don't./BC Story, Bro.
VTGremlin: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, enjoy dying in the woods.
skinink: I see people get lost in the city too easily (just the other day some lady was lost even though she had the GPS on her iPhone on and couldn't figure out how to use the map on the phone) so I can't imagine people would be any better out in the woods.
indarwinsshadow: Here in Barrie, Ontario, we've started charging people for rescue
bacongood: She told me to stop treating her like a child.
Ennuipoet: FTA: Mr Park, who leads the Cockermouth Mountain Rescue TeamI am so going hiking there.
Notabunny: Test your equipment before heading out[img.photobucket.com image 640x448]
Endive Wombat: My BIL went hiking a few years ago by himself - he is a very experienced outdoorsmen, like he can tell you what plants you can and cannot eat, same with mushrooms...he can forage for all kinds of food, hunt, etc...he always registers at the ranger station or that main registration board that you see at many hiking trails...He is VERY well prepared to say the least.So anyway, he ran into a small group of ill prepared 20-somethings. These morans were pretty freaked out and genuinely thought that they were lost and were going to die. No tail maps, no GPS, no way of starting a fire (They actually thought that they could just rub some sticks together like they do in the movies/on TV), very little in the way of food, no water purification apparatus or tablets, no toilet paper, they had paper thin sleeping bags (They were hiking in Mid-October in the Mountains of WV - yeah, it gets cold at night), no bug spray, no guns or bear spray, no first aid kits of any kind...one of the girls had already sprained her ankle - oh yeah, she was wearing Converse shoes! Their "hiking backpacks" were basically their school backpacks stuffed to the brim.They did have plenty of alcohol and condoms though!So as you can imagine, they were overcome with joy when my BIL stumbled upon them. They were about a full days walk from the park entrance. My BIL called the rangers office from his satellite phone and told them that he was leading a group of idiots back to the main park/campground and that they would probably need medical attention. After wrapping up the girl's sprained ankle, and feeding these dolts, they set off.About 9pm they arrived back at the main campground with 2 ambulances waiting to check the kids out. My BIL debriefed the Ranger then the two of them went to the groups "leader" and chewed him the fark out in front of all of his friends. They then proceeded to scold the rest of the group and the ranger suggested that they never try this again.My BIL got only one t ...
Salmon: What's a BIL?
Silly Jesus: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 500x409]Farking rescuers. As someone said above, first time you can chalk up to a shiatty day, second time, let Darwin win.
cherryl taggart: Maybe part of getting a hiking permit ought to include a small fee that actually purchases an insurance policy against dumbassery. Enough people manage to go into the wild and return safely that a few bucks tacked on would pay off for the idiots.But there is definitely a part of me thinking, after the first rescue, let Mr. Darwin collect his tribute.
Molly Purebred: FTA: One rescuer suffered a broken leg during Friday's search operation.Is it ironic that the people that got lost a second night in a row didn't break a leg?Notabunny: Test your equipment before heading out[img.photobucket.com image 640x448]CLASSIC
thisisyourbrainonFark: Fell walkers
pktloss: When I lived in NYC I was quite lost one day around midday, and asked a police officer which way north was, he looked confused. I asked where uptown was and he answered readily. He wasn't an idiot, I just don't think it's a normal way for a lot of people to think in a city.
pktloss: I just don't think it's a normal way for a lot of people to think in a city.
Fear the Clam: skinink: I see people get lost in the city too easily (just the other day some lady was lost even though she had the GPS on her iPhone on and couldn't figure out how to use the map on the phone) so I can't imagine people would be any better out in the woods.A few years ago, a college-age woman asked me which direction was west. This was on Houston Street in Manhattan at sundown.
StreetlightInTheGhetto: Your mind just gets stuck sometimes. I spent my youth knowing that toward one lake was East, toward a river/Canada was South. Spent the week with a lake to the West of me, and had to do plenty of double takes before I got my bearings around camp and driving around. And I've lived on that side of the state before... but I still default to my growing up directional references, at least for a few seconds before my critical thinking catches up to my knee-jerk reaction.
Crazy Lee: Getting lost, unintentionally? It's more likely than you think. Not overgrown and rocky (with poor visibility), either:One of my favorites from a drier clime: http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/trail-use-safety-education/61292 -unsolved-missing-family-death-valley.html[img2-3.timeinc.net image 270x270]/hot, like the desert//a movie with nothing but atmosphere
filter: We often get foreign (usually German) tourists who wind up dead. Just because the trails around here are only an hour or two out of the city doesn't mean a sudden change in the weather won't kill you.
clear_prop: The kicker? The mom was a science teacher.
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