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(Des Moines Register)   Pilot in Soviet-era Czech L-39 military training jet executes perfect one-point landing at Iowa air show   (desmoinesregister.com) divider line 146
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2012-09-02 02:18:50 PM  

clear_prop


one of the ex-Soviet block countries


That's "bloc", btw.
 
2012-09-02 02:20:02 PM  

Timbered Club: In Soviet Czechoslovakia, landing executes you!


/Well, it WAS supposed to be a nonstop flight! (R.I.P. George Carlin)
 
2012-09-02 02:21:32 PM  

uncleacid: He should have read the czech list before takeoff.


/Czech Mate!
 
2012-09-02 02:21:37 PM  

edmo: clear_prop: Only the military is allowed to have ejection seats. The FAA doesn't like the idea of pilots leaving the plane in flight, so all the ex-military jets in civilian hands are supposed to have the ejection seats disabled.

That does not appear to be accurate Link


Interesting. Thanks for the link.

Still wouldn't want to take a ride on a Martinski-Bakerski seat.
 
2012-09-02 02:22:05 PM  

One Bad Apple: Fear_and_Loathing:

Slow is a relative term.

That is a terrible thing to say about your own family


I logged in to lol at this... LOL!
 
2012-09-02 02:25:27 PM  

whconner4: About to board a plane. Let us pretend this thread provided no lulz to me, shall we?


OMG! Stay safe, dude.

I bought some milk that was past the expiry date once, so I know what it's like to live on the edge.
 
2012-09-02 02:25:57 PM  

whconner4: About to board a plane. Let us pretend this thread provided no lulz to me, shall we?


So where you headed, Slovakia or the Czech Republic? (Don't look down...)
 
2012-09-02 02:26:20 PM  

Amusement: Looks at FAIL tag and thinks contributor needs an arrow to his crotch. HERO, as all heroes, given posthumously Of course this is Fark, which is another way of saying fark-it-all for the 4chan lulz.


Yes he's such a hero for dying in an airshow disaster.
 
2012-09-02 02:29:10 PM  
people go to airshows for the same reason they go to nascar races
 
2012-09-02 02:31:41 PM  
Fail tag subby? Think you can do better?
 
2012-09-02 02:32:40 PM  

Omnivorous: I was at the Davenport air show about 20 years ago and the day after the show they lost a Harrier and pilot.


Sometimes I Wonder how Harriers fly in the first place! Of course, I live 60 mi. from LeJeune-those Ospreys really intimidate me-and not for their military prowess (except as unguided air-to-surface missiles!)
/Excuse me, my driveway is full of Hum-Vees!
 
2012-09-02 02:54:27 PM  

clear_prop: CowboyUpCowgirlDown: I'll bet that piece of wreckage jettisoned to the right of the fireball was the pilot in his ejection seat.

Feeling toasty, it appears.

Only the military is allowed to have ejection seats. The FAA doesn't like the idea of pilots leaving the plane in flight, so all the ex-military jets in civilian hands are supposed to have the ejection seats disabled.


You would be incorrect. Ex-military jets in civilian hands can have ejection seats, they are just very expensive to maintain so a lot of owners have them disabled.

I do not fly ex military jets without an ejection seats. They were put in these jets for a reason, namely when something happens, they are not very crashworthy.
 
2012-09-02 02:58:29 PM  
I wondered if the flight attendants had time to perform a cross Czech before that landing?

//got nothin.
 
2012-09-02 02:58:48 PM  

clutchcargo2002: clear_prop:

You would be incorrect. Ex-military jets in civilian hands can have ejection seats, they are just very expensive to maintain so a lot of owners have them disabled.

I do not fly ex military jets without an ejection seats. They were put in these jets for a reason, namely when something happens, they are not very crashworthy.


I am not a pilot, just an enthusiast, but I also understand that most military jets (other than large transports) have an engine-out glide profile that is only slightly better than that of a manhole cover.
 
2012-09-02 02:58:52 PM  

stumpwiz: Did this myself, at 450 kts in an F8, so I'm getting a kick.

/Had an ejection seat.
//Didn't walk away from it.
///Still beat the reaper.


is that where the 'stump' in your username comes from?
 
2012-09-02 03:07:48 PM  

clear_prop:
Only the military is allowed to have ejection seats. The FAA doesn't like the idea of pilots leaving the plane in flight, so all the ex-military jets in civilian hands are supposed to have the ejection seats disabled.


Whereas the UK CAA prefers ejection seats to be maintained live.
 
2012-09-02 03:10:15 PM  
Yikes.
 
2012-09-02 03:11:48 PM  

buzzcut73: clutchcargo2002: clear_prop:
I am not a pilot, just an enthusiast, but I also understand that most military jets (other than large transports) have an engine-out glide profile that is only slightly better than that of a manhole cover.


Yea, they are not very good and the best glide speeds are very high. F-16 is something like 220 kts, the F-104 is close to 300 kts as well as the
MiG-21. Glide ratio for the above is roughly 3-1 on a good day. From 20,000 feet above a runway, you can do a 360 turn, followed by a 180 degree turn to final from about 6000' - 9000' and that's it. It happens very quickly.
 
2012-09-02 03:12:35 PM  

Enigmamf: is that where the 'stump' in your username comes from?


Correct. Rode the last of the Martin Baker ballistic seats. Got only one of the three charges. Vertical stab clipped me. Am a right BK.
 
2012-09-02 03:13:24 PM  
Lay off the slivovitz dude....oh wait, you're dead, never mind.
 
2012-09-02 03:14:48 PM  

Jarhead_h: FTA: "DAVENPORT, Ia. -- A plane that was part of an air show in eastern Iowa has crashed, and the pilot is dead, police told reporters."

[cmsimg.desmoinesregister.com image 512x322]

Oh, ya' think?


wadelhardt.eu

"You're supposed to be all cracked up at the bottom of the hill!"

" Airbags! Can you farking believe it?"

"You're supposed to be blown up into fiery chunks of flesh!"

"Sprinkler system set up in the back! Can you *farking* believe it?"
 
2012-09-02 03:17:05 PM  

ButterMule: And this is why I don't go to air shows.


And why many sick people do
 
2012-09-02 03:17:47 PM  
They were trying to do a Kolvoord Starburst.
 
2012-09-02 03:18:37 PM  
that's a big fireball
 
2012-09-02 03:25:42 PM  
Well, it's a good thing Rick didn't buy it on Pawn Stars then ;-)

Link
 
2012-09-02 03:26:17 PM  

Jarhead_h: FTA: "DAVENPORT, Ia. -- A plane that was part of an air show in eastern Iowa has crashed, and the pilot is dead, police told reporters."

[cmsimg.desmoinesregister.com image 512x322]

Oh, ya' think?


I posted that pict earlier with the comments "With the price of fuel, Im suprised he could afford to do that" and the fricken mods deleated it. WTF already!!!
 
2012-09-02 03:28:31 PM  
i277.photobucket.com

Do svidaniya
 
2012-09-02 03:31:46 PM  
 
2012-09-02 03:33:19 PM  
s18.postimage.org
 
2012-09-02 03:34:37 PM  

Iron Felix: They were trying to do a Kolvoord Starburst.


Yeah, but that idea was thought up by "Not Tom Paris But Totally Seemed Like The Same Character And Was A Pilot And Sent To Prison And Played By The Same Actor But For Some Reason They Aren't The Same Guy".

Star Trek: The Next Generation ("The First Duty")
i.imgur.com

Star Trek: Voyager
images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-02 03:51:50 PM  

OriginalGamer: Iron Felix: They were trying to do a Kolvoord Starburst.

Yeah, but that idea was thought up by "Not Tom Paris But Totally Seemed Like The Same Character And Was A Pilot And Sent To Prison And Played By The Same Actor But For Some Reason They Aren't The Same Guy".


Huh. I never noticed that. Speaking of which, this needs a Pilot Chekov joke but I can't make it work.
 
2012-09-02 03:53:23 PM  
They did that with Tuvok too. He was a helmsman in one movie, and not a vulcan. Then he came back in Voyager as a Vulcan.
 
2012-09-02 03:57:05 PM  

OriginalGamer: Iron Felix: They were trying to do a Kolvoord Starburst.

Yeah, but that idea was thought up by "Not Tom Paris But Totally Seemed Like The Same Character And Was A Pilot And Sent To Prison And Played By The Same Actor But For Some Reason They Aren't The Same Guy".

Star Trek: The Next Generation ("The First Duty")
[i.imgur.com image 347x422]

Star Trek: Voyager
[images.wikia.com image 292x355]



Long story short: The producers of Voyager realized that if they had Locarno in the show they would have had to pay the writer of "The First Duties" a ton of royalties.
 
2012-09-02 03:57:07 PM  
Looks like a crossover without the requisite horizontal/lateral separation.
 
2012-09-02 04:05:49 PM  

MattyFridays: OriginalGamer: Iron Felix: They were trying to do a Kolvoord Starburst.

Yeah, but that idea was thought up by "Not Tom Paris But Totally Seemed Like The Same Character And Was A Pilot And Sent To Prison And Played By The Same Actor But For Some Reason They Aren't The Same Guy".

Star Trek: The Next Generation ("The First Duty")
[i.imgur.com image 347x422]

Star Trek: Voyager
[images.wikia.com image 292x355]


Long story short: The producers of Voyager realized that if they had Locarno in the show they would have had to pay the writer of "The First Duties" a ton of royalties.


Well, now I know. I would have assumed most shows would have a clause to the effect of "even if its your script, we own rights to all characters".
 
2012-09-02 04:14:21 PM  

clear_prop: CowboyUpCowgirlDown: I'll bet that piece of wreckage jettisoned to the right of the fireball was the pilot in his ejection seat.

Feeling toasty, it appears.

Only the military is allowed to have ejection seats. The FAA doesn't like the idea of pilots leaving the plane in flight, so all the ex-military jets in civilian hands are supposed to have the ejection seats disabled.


That is a bad idea. Better idea: ex-military jets may not have ejection seats...UNLESS they are going to be flying in air shows. The only thing worse than watching a plane explode in a huge fireball is knowing the pilot is also exploding in that huge fireball.

I can understand why the FAA would not want that in planes flying normal hops from airport to airport, but the tolerances are so much tighter in exhibition flying.
 
2012-09-02 04:19:31 PM  

OriginalGamer:

Well, now I know. I would have assumed most shows would have a clause to the effect of "even if its your script, we own rights to all characters".


I'm sure the Writers' Union has something to do with it.

The funny thing? Producers of VOY said they didn't just use Locarno because his actions were "irredeemable". (Mind you, Locarno was a *CADET* that did something stupid that led to another Cadet's death, who was a bad pilot to begin with)

Tom Paris was a Starfleet Officer whose error killed THREE people and covered it up, and THEN joined a terrorist organization!
 
2012-09-02 04:23:08 PM  
www.ejectionsite.com
 
2012-09-02 04:26:40 PM  

clutchcargo2002: buzzcut73: clutchcargo2002: clear_prop:
I am not a pilot, just an enthusiast, but I also understand that most military jets (other than large transports) have an engine-out glide profile that is only slightly better than that of a manhole cover.

Yea, they are not very good and the best glide speeds are very high. F-16 is something like 220 kts, the F-104 is close to 300 kts as well as the
MiG-21. Glide ratio for the above is roughly 3-1 on a good day. From 20,000 feet above a runway, you can do a 360 turn, followed by a 180 degree turn to final from about 6000' - 9000' and that's it. It happens very quickly.


F-16 Deadstick Landing
 
2012-09-02 04:26:43 PM  

Principal Clarinet: Bigdogdaddy: Am I a bad person for wanting to see video?

Link


My God this video contains everything why I hate broadcast television. Take 20 seconds of actual footage and turn it into minutes of tease and commercials and talk through everything as if I'm blind.
 
2012-09-02 04:34:01 PM  
He might be ok.

thelongbrake.com
 
2012-09-02 04:35:45 PM  

OriginalGamer: Iron Felix: They were trying to do a Kolvoord Starburst.

Yeah, but that idea was thought up by "Not Tom Paris But Totally Seemed Like The Same Character And Was A Pilot And Sent To Prison And Played By The Same Actor But For Some Reason They Aren't The Same Guy".


They ARE the same guy, kinda, but if they used the original's name, then the writers of that TNG episode would have get get royalties from basically every episode of Voyager ever made.

There's your "some reason".
 
2012-09-02 04:36:00 PM  

clear_prop: edmo: clear_prop: Only the military is allowed to have ejection seats. The FAA doesn't like the idea of pilots leaving the plane in flight, so all the ex-military jets in civilian hands are supposed to have the ejection seats disabled.

That does not appear to be accurate Link

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

Still wouldn't want to take a ride on a Martinski-Bakerski seat.


But what if you lost control of your plane, couldn't recover, ejected and then the damn thing rights itself and does a intact belly landing in a cornfield?

4.bp.blogspot.com

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3.bp.blogspot.com

One of them stories that just can't be true, but is... Link to the story.
 
2012-09-02 04:38:09 PM  

durbnpoisn: They did that with Tuvok too. He was a helmsman in one movie, and not a vulcan. Then he came back in Voyager as a Vulcan.


He was also a baddie in "Starship Mine"

i291.photobucket.com

/watch out for that saddle
 
2012-09-02 04:39:40 PM  
cdn0.hark.com


R.I.P. mother goose
 
2012-09-02 04:40:26 PM  
The pilot in question

GLENN SMITH
"SKIDS"

"Skids" is a technology entrepreneur who founded a company in 1981 that provides IT services to local governments. Away from his computer, Skids started flying 24 years ago and now holds holds a commercial pilot's license with instrument rating. With over 2000 hours flying including 600 hours in jets, he is currently flying his PT-17 Stearman, T-37 Tweet ( one of two currently flying), MiG-17, L-39, and Super Cub. Skids is the newest member of the Hoppers and is currently working on his Lead qualifications.

"The Hoppers quickly became close and trusted friends. They are a special group of aviators dedicated to aviation safety and proficiency; and we use the excitement of aviation as a message to motivate kids to succeed."

In addition to his passion for flying, Glenn is a certified scuba diver, licensed sailor, snow ski enthusiast, and struggling golfer.
 
2012-09-02 04:46:37 PM  

Mildot: clear_prop: edmo: clear_prop: Only the military is allowed to have ejection seats. The FAA doesn't like the idea of pilots leaving the plane in flight, so all the ex-military jets in civilian hands are supposed to have the ejection seats disabled.

That does not appear to be accurate Link

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

Still wouldn't want to take a ride on a Martinski-Bakerski seat.

But what if you lost control of your plane, couldn't recover, ejected and then the damn thing rights itself and does a intact belly landing in a cornfield?


Awkward.
 
2012-09-02 04:54:14 PM  
i49.tinypic.com

Found him!
 
2012-09-02 04:58:33 PM  

Mildot: clear_prop: edmo: clear_prop: Only the military is allowed to have ejection seats. The FAA doesn't like the idea of pilots leaving the plane in flight, so all the ex-military jets in civilian hands are supposed to have the ejection seats disabled.

But what if you lost control of your plane, couldn't recover, ejected and then the damn thing rights itself and does a intact belly landing in a cornfield?

One of them stories that just can't be true, but is... Link to the story.


Here's another one...
 
2012-09-02 04:59:52 PM  
"FAIL" tag is for subby's entire life?
 
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