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(Wikipedia)   So it's come to this; the final episode before Breaking Bad's one year mid-season break. Who will live? Who will die? What secrets will be revealed? What's for breakfast? It's the last Breaking Bad discussion thread of 2012   (en.wikipedia.org) divider line 94
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2012-09-02 11:01:41 PM  
9 votes:
Hanks going to see the Walt Whitman book
2012-09-03 01:53:35 AM  
3 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-09-03 08:54:42 PM  
2 votes:

NASAM: Joon:

8. They're at the White house.

Okay Smart Guy, if they're at the White House, then where was Obama?


He was one of the empty chairs near the pool.
2012-09-03 11:11:46 AM  
2 votes:
Okay, Degenz, I guess I shouldn't have engaged you because... you are really farking dumb.
2012-09-03 05:26:32 AM  
2 votes:
I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but just because Hank now has Walt pegged as the true Heisenberg doesn't mean he thinks Walt is the kingpin or the guy who ordered hits on 10 guys or was the one who took out Gus. The "Walt are you cooking meth to support your family?" conversation is much different from the "Walt are you a drug kingpin who murdered or been an accessory to the murder of 23* people?" Hank, up until now, saw Walt as a mild mannered family man. He's got a long ways to go before uncovering all of the ugly truth.

Could Walt just pretend like his was just some lowly meth cook at the mercy of a power struggle between the Cartel and Gus and now the Phoenix crew? Hank might be willing to bury that to save his own ass.

* 10 guys in prison, Mike, the dirt bike kid, Gus, henchman in nursing home, Hector (maybe this doesn't count), 2 guys guarding Jesse in the superlab, Gale, 2 drug dealers (mostly) with the Aztek, Jane, Crazy 8 and henchman

/I think I remembered all of them
2012-09-03 02:30:24 AM  
2 votes:
Nobody commenting on Hank's lines about tagging trees? Most important part of the episode. . .
2012-09-03 02:23:02 AM  
2 votes:

libranoelrose: I assure you that those were my work. I post gifs that others have made, but I've never called them my own.


I figured. Enjoy the CPU cooler.

Phins: And while Hank's brain is clicking and putting pieces together, it's also denying those piece and connections at the same time. Imagine you're Hank. You're looking at a meth ring with a wide distribution (Gus had franchises all over the SW) and connections in Thailand and with a large multinational corporation based in Germany. The ringleader is dead and none of his guys are talking because someone is still paying them off. There's already a decent body count (remember all the dead cartel members in Mexico). And then all the non-talking guys get killed in prison within 2 minutes. And the mastermind is your mild-mannered, cancer-having brother-in-law? Part of his brain is telling him he's crazy to think it's Walt.


I think Hank's biggest problem next season is going to be that the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on his physical therapy (because Marie said his insurance wouldn't pay for the good stuff) came from Walt and Skyler, because of "gambling money."

Hank, whether he realizes it or not, is complicit in the scheme. Walt can use that as leverage against him.
2012-09-03 01:52:33 AM  
2 votes:
This used to be the best place to discuss BB until all the "someone is going to smoke the ricin cigarette/mike's gun was in the bag Walt gave Jesse" crowd showed up.

Walt is not in any way trying to tell Jesse that Mike is dead. Why would he do that when he knows it would set Jesse off? The "Saul told me what you did" line refers to killing Mike's guys, the ones who would no longer keep quiet because they were no longer being paid. It's the reason Jesse didn't leave his house/leave town and the reason Jesse's not in jail. And Jesse was sitting a foot away from the bags when he reached behind himself and pulled out the gun.

Also, near the beginning of the episode, there's this conversation:
Jesse: So what's the story, you get to Mike?
Walt: ummm hmmm (nodding)
Jesse: He get out safe?
Walt: He's gone.
Jesse: All right.What about those nine guys, in jail? They got no reason not to talk now. So what do we do?
Walt: We? Who's we? There is no we Jesse. I'm the only vote left and I'll handle it.
And Jesse leaves.

Mike's "go" bag was brown (with a light stripe on it). It had some cash, not a lot. His real money, his millions, was in the safe deposit box for his granddaughter. That's why he had the big box and why there was a note in it that said "to Kaylee on her 18th birthday."

Am I the only one with a memory or a DVR? There's enough to ponder in the show without imagining things.

Walt is most certainly NOT out. You don't make a deal to supply a drug distributor with enough product for two cities and then just walk away 3 months later. And you most certainly don't set up international distribution and walk away 3 months later.

The question is why did Walk decide to give Jesse his money?

And while Hank's brain is clicking and putting pieces together, it's also denying those piece and connections at the same time. Imagine you're Hank. You're looking at a meth ring with a wide distribution (Gus had franchises all over the SW) and connections in Thailand and with a large multinational corporation based in Germany. The ringleader is dead and none of his guys are talking because someone is still paying them off. There's already a decent body count (remember all the dead cartel members in Mexico). And then all the non-talking guys get killed in prison within 2 minutes. And the mastermind is your mild-mannered, cancer-having brother-in-law? Part of his brain is telling him he's crazy to think it's Walt.
2012-09-03 01:19:57 AM  
2 votes:
And now I'm more convinced than ever that this show is the craziest love story between Walter White and Jesse Pinkman ever put on TV. Walt doesn't get out (which is debatable, I think he's lying) until Jesse rejects him again. He sees how scared Jesse is of him, after chewing on the "monster" comment by Hank earlier. Walt didn't really think about how awful and scary he looked to other people (in fact, he kind of liked it), until Jesse was the one who was scared of him. Look how Jesse is so damn scared after Walt leaves. Walt could see that fear, and realized it was over. He couldn't do it anymore (maybe). And the only thing I can think of that would lead Walter to buy an M60 is something involving Jesse. Either jealous rage or heroics (Hank picks up Jesse and leans on him, Walt tries to save him), or utter fury at betrayal (Jesse turns in Walt). And yes, Lydia, Todd, the Phoenix crew, and 5% of the Czech Republic are going to be somehow involved, probably in body bags, trash compactors, plastic barrels of HF acid, etc. Skylar may or may not die, it doesn't matter much to Walt. Jesse was his one true love, it didn't work out, so he had to settle for Skylar. Walt never killed Gus, Gale, Tuco, etc in order to protect Skylar in the kids. He did it to protect Jesse.

All the other stuff, Gus and Mike, the meth business, Hank and the DEA, Skylar and the kids, it's all the most well made window dressing in TV history. The real tale is about Walt and Jesse, Walt the poisonous and intractable fly, and Jesse the scared kid who can't seem to kill it.
2012-09-03 12:31:59 AM  
2 votes:

Sandor at the Zoo: /but seriously, it's obvious that Skyler taking up smoking = death by ricin cigarette


I think it's a little more complicated than that.

Skyler took up smoking, which reminds you of the ricin cigarette. But! remember what Tuco said about his ricin meth? It smelled like head cheese. Ricin smells like head cheese. Head cheese.

So, what would happen if you smoked the ricin cigarette? You'd be smoking the head cheese. Just like Walt and Hector did to Gus. But! "smoking the head cheese" would also be a killer euphemism for fellatio. Smoking the head cheese.

So, who has the head cheese for an entire season? Jesse. The head cheese Jesse was supposed to have Gus smoke. Gus, the man who's alluded to being homosexual in flashbacks! Gus, the man who tried to cozy up to Jesse when things got bad with Walt.

What does that tell us about Jesse? He likes having head cheese for other people to "smoke". And who likes to smoke? Skyler. That means Skyler's going to smoke Jesse's head cheese -- if you know what I mean -- and together they're going to poison Walt with the ricin, literally smoking the head cheese.

Boom. Case closed, pack it in, everyone can go home now. I won Breaking Bad.
2012-09-02 11:46:47 PM  
2 votes:

Lsherm: that bosnian sniper: rocinante721: Reminder. Who owned the Whitman book?

Wasnt that evidence from the Gale murder ?

Was Walt's another copy?

No, that was the copy Gale gave Walt back in season 3.

Yeah, Hank didn't know about the book, he only knows about Gale's notebooks. Since Gale had such a homotard* hardon for Walt he included "To W.W. My Star, My Perfect Silence" in one of his notebooks.

The scene they reference is from Season 4 in the episode called "Bullet Points." It starts about 21 minutes into the episode.


Ok just went to Netflix to rewatch that scene. Hank shows Walt the notebook with all the meth stuff. Walt is going through the notebook when Hank points out that at the top of the notebook is inscribed (Like LSherm said) "To W.W. My star, My perfect silence"

Hank asks Walt who is W.W.?

Hank: Woodrow Wilson? Wily Wonka? Walter White?
Walt: You got me!!

Then Walt takes the notebook back and shows Hank a poem along with a drawing that Gale had in the notebook. It was a poem by Walt Whitman.
Walt tells Hank: There is your W.W.

Hank tells Walt he is a brainiac and thanks him.

I had totally forgot about that scene! fark!
2012-09-02 11:39:52 PM  
2 votes:

Degenz: CavalierEternal: Degenz: libranoelrose: [i.imgur.com image 834x1200]

Thank you!

So why is this book sitting in Hank's crapper?

They're at Walt's.

No, they aren't.

rocinante721: Degenz: libranoelrose: [i.imgur.com image 834x1200]

Thank you!

So why is this book sitting in Hank's crapper?

He unpacked it when he moved back into the house at beginning of season. Must have made its way into the crapper library

No...he never moved out. He was in the hospital two seasons ago, but Hank never moved out.

Sorry, that book doesn't make sense.


You are proof positive that the dumbest people are always the most sure of themselves.
2012-09-02 11:17:26 PM  
2 votes:
The biggest plot hole of the episode is actually why did hank use the master bathroom and not the guest bathroom. Is there only one in the house> You're telling me every time Jr. takes a dump he has to go through mom and dad's room?
2012-09-02 11:13:13 PM  
2 votes:
Dammit, Breaking Bad, you need to be more clever then this! You're telling me Walt doesn't immediately destoy everything associated with Gale as soon as he's killed? Check that, you're telling me Walt keeps any personal items he recieved during his illegal meth cooks in his own home? In plain site? For anyone to see? That's BS, and I don't even think it's necessary, Hank's a smart guy, he's just blinded by what's directly in front of him. Walt should have got a little drunk, made some type of off-hand comment (Like he did in season 4), and we should of had yet another montage with Hank recalling the entire case, and everthing that Walt said, and all the little things that ties Walt to everything (Like the ventilators 'stolen' from Walt's classroom in season 1). Hank could of easily pieced everything together, to get really really really suspicious. Finding the book while on the can? That's bush-league.
2012-09-02 11:02:08 PM  
2 votes:
Hank finds the Walt Whitman book?
2012-09-02 08:59:40 PM  
2 votes:
My guess is Hank gets hot onto Walt's tail. I'm sure most of those nine guys in prison are dead but I think Hank will still find a link.
2012-09-04 10:37:21 PM  
1 votes:
I was happy to see how many new comments had been added to this thread since the last time I checked. "Awesome", I thought, "some lively new discussion has picked up."

Sadly though, it was just the bleating of some moron who's obsessed with group masturbation. How disappointing.
2012-09-04 08:06:06 PM  
1 votes:

eddiesocket: /Though he should've tied both Walt's hands to the radiator. That one, I can't buy.


I had trouble with that at first, too, but there are a few ways to think about it--

Not Enough Plastic Cuffs.
(Mike ran out? He would have thought to bring two!)-
-Answer:

silverscreenmedia.files.wordpress.com

"I cuffed him to a radiator. I don't watch stupid sh*t on television, and I don't dick around on tvtropes. I, for the lack of a better word, am a real person. When I cuff a guy to a radiator, it usually plays out how it sounds when you say it out loud."

But Walter White can get out of anything! With SCIENCE! Everyone knows that! Mike should have been able to anticipate the genius of the Walter we all know, as opposed to the bumbling psychotic suburbanite liability Mike knows him as.


"Duly noted. Next time, maybe warn me that he also reconciles a bruised ego with a unique form of apologetic murder."

But there's no way Mike would just leave him there alone! Not after all they've been through! Doesn't Mike know that this obviously never-been-a-criminal-mastermind assnugget is Batman in glasses? He can't be trusted, securely tied to an immovable appliance, with an already pissed off henchman who has proven he can find anyone anywhere, at any time, and execute them threatening to do just that to him. He will obviously win through entertaining hijinks of his own!


silverscreenmedia.files.wordpress.com

"See above, kid. I have dumber yet more entertaining things to talk about."
2012-09-04 07:39:45 PM  
1 votes:

Degenz: Shazam999: You don't go out much, do you? I mean, you seem to think safety deposit boxes are magical mystery devices.

One more time -- the whole point of having an attorney deposit cash in safety deposit boxes is to insulate the other actors (the so-called "9", and Mike) from culpability by creating a layered buffer. I'm rather surprised you're dumb enough to fall for this gimmick of a few DEA guys following a lawyer into a bank vault and intimidating him in to rolling over within the time span of a few hours. I honestly thought Farkers were smarter than that.

I've explained this multiple times now, but none of you get it. The attorney/client privilege is the most sacrosanct bond lawyers have -- they couldn't do business without it. To think any lawyer, regardless of how stupid and lame and cowardly he might be, would just relinquish his primary Ace Card in the way Dan did is...just naive. No lawyer would ever do that.

But go ahead and join the circle jerk.


He didn't have an ace card. He was a dirty lawyer caught in the act committing multiple felonies. Lawyer/client privilege is moot when it's the lawyer committing the crime. Now he's a criminal, not a lawyer. And if there's anything a cop loves more than having dead-to-rights a crooked lawyer who has just lost his lawyer hat, it must be something fried and glazed that gives mind blowing handjobs for free.

If you want to talk suspension of disbelief, it would make more sense to criticize the notion that Mike didn't vet the guy like he would. As anybody knows, Mike knows the squealers when he seems them and...

i373.photobucket.com

Right?

But that criticism doesn't quite hold up in court, because Mike knew to use Saul (and probably a few other guys) for anything that didn't seem locked up tight. This guy was just a drop guy that Mike didn't think he needed to worry about--crooked enough to commit the crime, scared enough not to ask questions, and pencil-dicked enough to ply the bank lady with cookies and feel superior to an ambulance chaser while doing it. In the suspension of disbelief file, I'd feel much more violated if Mike had a Jokeresque omniscient wisdom that allowed him to think of everything, plug all the holes, and get out of every jam no matter the urgency. The show would be about Mike if that were true, and it would probably suck.
2012-09-04 10:05:18 AM  
1 votes:
I think what this is, is that Vince Gilligan is a Star Wars fan, but he hates George Lucas and the prequels. He's showing how you get Anakin Skywalker to be good, turn to evil, and then return to good (I believe Walt will end up being 'the good guy', perhaps with his own life as the cost). This is Darth Vader here people.
2012-09-03 08:33:58 PM  
1 votes:
Wait a minute, wait a minute, Walter White was cooking Methamphetamine? That's what the blue stuff was?
2012-09-03 07:54:02 PM  
1 votes:

ckevinc: Did they show Mikes other lawyer get killed off or could he still be around?


I think he was the first victim in the prison murder montage.
2012-09-03 07:16:05 PM  
1 votes:
So, if he has been cooking from a fixed volume of Methylamine, with the specific arrangement with Declan that has as its premise that Declan will be the exclusive distributor, anybody else wonder about how Declan would react to discovering he's been shipping assloads of the product overseas?
2012-09-03 06:09:25 PM  
1 votes:
I'm starting to think that he's just an alt of the guy that destroyed the Dead Freight thread.
2012-09-03 01:53:59 PM  
1 votes:

Degenz: Bill Frist: Okay, Degenz, I guess I shouldn't have engaged you because... you are really farking dumb.


My turn. You're an idiot.

And not because you were initially wrong while calling people "dumbasses," but because you kept doubling down, over and over, until you got a point where you claim to hate the show, rather than simply admitting you made a mistake and moving on.
2012-09-03 12:26:08 PM  
1 votes:

Degenz: NeoCortex42: Degenz: The way Mike went out last week just sucked and I'm still pissed about it. His lawyer Dan did absolutely nothing to get the DEA to roll over on Mike but have boat loads of cash in a bank vault. They had probable cause to seize the, but nothing in the way of evidence that would make a lawyer roll over on his client without at least a few court hearings and shiat. The whole chronology/time line just doesn't work.

It wasn't that the DEA had a lot of evidence on Mike and the lawyer gave him up. The lawyer was caught committing a crime and agreed to a plea bargain in which he gave up Mike.

And what crime was the lawyer caught committing? Sticking boat loads of cash in a safety deposit box? Puh-leeeze. That's not illegal.

Even if you volunteer yourself as a junior script writer to help the story along by constructing all this imaginary crap it still doesn't explain why a lawyer would roll over on his client in a matter of minutes the way Dan did. He was confronted by Hank's buddies from the DEA in the bank vault and the very next sequence is Walt calling Hank while he's at the playground with his grand daughter telling him the cops are on their way. And then the cops show up at the playground.

But Mike manages to elude them, once again. Just like he eluded them all the other times he met with Walt and Jesse when they were supposedly tailing him. And that was before Hank's boss told him to stop the surveillance.

I don't care how anyone imagines this is plausible. There's no way a lawyer is going to flip on his client under pressure without at least asserting the confidentiality privilege and keeping his mouth shut. And don't pull that shiat and say Dan wasn't working for Mike. Remember the scene where Saul told Walt and Jesse all they had to do was put a dollar in his pocket and he was their lawyer.

The story line is implausible bullshiat.


Yeah, but you're the moron from earlier who didn't realize whose house they were at, so no one cares what you have to say or will ever take your opinion seriously again.
2012-09-03 12:19:34 PM  
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: Degenz: The way Mike went out last week just sucked and I'm still pissed about it. His lawyer Dan did absolutely nothing to get the DEA to roll over on Mike but have boat loads of cash in a bank vault. They had probable cause to seize the, but nothing in the way of evidence that would make a lawyer roll over on his client without at least a few court hearings and shiat. The whole chronology/time line just doesn't work.

It wasn't that the DEA had a lot of evidence on Mike and the lawyer gave him up. The lawyer was caught committing a crime and agreed to a plea bargain in which he gave up Mike.


And what crime was the lawyer caught committing? Sticking boat loads of cash in a safety deposit box? Puh-leeeze. That's not illegal.

Even if you volunteer yourself as a junior script writer to help the story along by constructing all this imaginary crap it still doesn't explain why a lawyer would roll over on his client in a matter of minutes the way Dan did. He was confronted by Hank's buddies from the DEA in the bank vault and the very next sequence is Walt calling Hank while he's at the playground with his grand daughter telling him the cops are on their way. And then the cops show up at the playground.

But Mike manages to elude them, once again. Just like he eluded them all the other times he met with Walt and Jesse when they were supposedly tailing him. And that was before Hank's boss told him to stop the surveillance.

I don't care how anyone imagines this is plausible. There's no way a lawyer is going to flip on his client under pressure without at least asserting the confidentiality privilege and keeping his mouth shut. And don't pull that shiat and say Dan wasn't working for Mike. Remember the scene where Saul told Walt and Jesse all they had to do was put a dollar in his pocket and he was their lawyer.

The story line is implausible bullshiat.
2012-09-03 12:06:51 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-09-03 10:35:55 AM  
1 votes:

Gunderson: libranoelrose: While watching the scene where Hank is telling Walt about how he used to mark trees, I just caught Walt's response.

"I used to l love to go camping."

Was he referring to the RV?

My interpretation was that Walters reply was right after Hank said that now he's chasing monsters. Walters response was almost snide, like he was saying 'Well, I was a monster in the forest back then'.

I also thought the scene was a build-up to the old saying of 'can't see the forest from the trees', as in Hank has all the details down pat in the case, but can't connect it to Walt, who is sitting right there.


The "I used to love to go camping" line was a reference to how much Walt used to love cooking with Jesse - in the RV. That's backed up by his conversation with Jesse when he pays him off later. I say used to, because he probably doesn't get nearly as much satisfaction out of it now, without Jesse. This whole series is one big love affair between those two.
2012-09-03 10:34:47 AM  
1 votes:

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Actor_au: Apparently the pile of cash was meant to be $80 million or so.

My math on it was about $33 million.

(snip)

OCD much?


Or alternately, we could speculate on the aggregate cost of shipping 55 gallon steel drums full of thick black goo via air freight to the Czech Republic. That'd be a big pile o' cash right there. Just sayin'.
2012-09-03 09:13:52 AM  
1 votes:
I work at a law school, and purple is the color of law. We incorporate purple in all of our promo materials.
2012-09-03 07:59:15 AM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-09-03 04:12:14 AM  
1 votes:

Degenz: Alright! F*ck you farkers.

I can take a beat down!

/Just STFU already


Tard
2012-09-03 03:35:09 AM  
1 votes:

ThatBillmanGuy: The Ricin Cigarette didn't kill Gale to send a message to Jesse that Mike was dead from drowning in the pool that Walt Jr. crashed his car into.

/what Breaking Bad must be like in an alternate universe...


Apparently, a couple posters in this thread are watching the alternate universe Breaking Bad.
2012-09-03 03:29:51 AM  
1 votes:
Here's my prediction: Hank returns from the bathroom and starts throwing out subtle hints that he knows. Walt soon realizes he's onto him, and because of the way Walt works, he does the only thing he can - goes for the ricin stashed away inside. Walt asks Hank to join him inside for a private conversation and a drink. Hank hastily obliges, as this is time for closure as far as he's concerned. Once Hank has consumed enough of the drink, Walt discloses everything to him in a very arrogant fashion. Hank collapses within minutes. A ricin-induced coma ensues...
2012-09-03 02:48:47 AM  
1 votes:

Sandor at the Zoo: Is the White's pool really not cemented into our knowledge of the series at this point? Jesus, that damn thing's been around in so many pivotal moments, I wouldn't be shocked if it's the pool that has motivated Walt to buy the M60.


Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' guns is no basis for a system of government
2012-09-03 02:22:59 AM  
1 votes:
While watching the scene where Hank is telling Walt about how he used to mark trees, I just caught Walt's response.

"I used to l love to go camping."

Was he referring to the RV?
2012-09-03 02:04:33 AM  
1 votes:

count_chimpula: Grungehamster: Haven't seen a response, and since the rerun is about to hit the scene:

Were the bags of money Walt gave Jessie just Jessie's cut and Jessie had that gun as a separate thing, or did Walt leave Jessie the bags and gun Mike tried to skip town with (which was my understanding of the scene)?

Haven't seen anyone other than me suggest that Walt basically signaled to Jessie that Mike is dead and he was involved.

Yes, that's why Jesse looks so unhappy after opening the bags.


no way. after he saw Walt at the door he went off screen for a second, i'm assuming to grab the gun. The reason he sat down and looked all stressed was because he thought Walt was there to kill him, not give him money. he's afraid of Walt. he was relieved.
2012-09-03 01:53:51 AM  
1 votes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHpUs1edbzA
2012-09-03 01:41:39 AM  
1 votes:

Theory Of Null: bojon: See you all next year.

It's going to be a long year.


images.tvrage.com
Not as good as Breaking Bad, but damn fine television. In fact, Devil (RIP) was in this last episode of Breaking Bad.
2012-09-03 01:32:51 AM  
1 votes:

libranoelrose: /shameless begging on

My processor is overheating converting this episode while trying to make gifs.

Someone want to pop into my wishlist and buy me that CPU cooler before next season starts?

/shameless begging off


Fine. I've been using your .gifs like a drunken whore, so you get your cooler. Good work should be rewarded.

It wasn't Prime eligible - thanks, dick. ;)
2012-09-03 01:32:42 AM  
1 votes:

Bill Frist: Sandor at the Zoo: CavalierEternal: Samwise Gamgee: So, what was with the short clip of Walt apparently on an MRI table?

It's never spoken, but between the MRI and the shot of Walt having beaten the sh*t out of the hand dryer in the hospital bathroom, we're pretty sure the cancer is back.

Just to be clear, Walt didn't beat the sh*t out of the hand dryer (actually, I think it was just a paper towel dispenser) in this episode. That was the same paper towel dispenser he thrashed back in season 2 when he got the good news vis a vis remission.

Walt is only a year or so in remission. He would be gettign regular MRI treatments. In addition, the first episode of the season shows him with a full heard of hair. Guess it could be a wig, but doesn't seem likely cancer is back.


It's back. He was coughing and popping pills. You only lose your hair if you're doing chemo. Obviously, Walt's got other things on his mind, 9 months from now.
2012-09-03 01:31:12 AM  
1 votes:

Samwise Gamgee: Shazam999: I'll say it once, I'll say it again:

Are some of you watching the show called "Breaking Bad" before you post on here? Or are you watching something else on TLC? Because holy fark what the hell.

I think we're dealing with those sorts of people that don't actively watch a show. They were probably posting in Fark threads while Breaking Bad aired on a television somewhere off to their left or right, or perhaps behind them, and they only occasionally actually looked at the television, relying mostly on the dialogue to understand what was going on. That's the only way I can figure that so many people seem to think that Walt dropped off Mike's gun/bag, or that the final events weren't taking place at Walt's house, etc. Nothing else makes sense.


Yea. I've always had this strange idea that Farkers are generally smarter than most people. This thread blows that the fark out of the water. This is NOT a complicated show, people.
2012-09-03 01:15:11 AM  
1 votes:

LesserEvil: I'm in the "Jesse grabbed the gun before answering the door" camp.


I seriously hope there's no "camp". We see him pull the gun from his waistband. Seriously, it's not meant to be in any way ambiguous. Some people are just too stupid to watch.
2012-09-03 01:14:02 AM  
1 votes:

Shazam999: I'll say it once, I'll say it again:

Are some of you watching the show called "Breaking Bad" before you post on here? Or are you watching something else on TLC? Because holy fark what the hell.


I think we're dealing with those sorts of people that don't actively watch a show. They were probably posting in Fark threads while Breaking Bad aired on a television somewhere off to their left or right, or perhaps behind them, and they only occasionally actually looked at the television, relying mostly on the dialogue to understand what was going on. That's the only way I can figure that so many people seem to think that Walt dropped off Mike's gun/bag, or that the final events weren't taking place at Walt's house, etc. Nothing else makes sense.
2012-09-03 01:10:06 AM  
1 votes:

count_chimpula: It was Mike's gun in the money bag.

Jesse recognized the gun and knew then that Mike was dead. That's why he was so devastated after he opened the bags.


Sigh.
2012-09-03 01:05:20 AM  
1 votes:
I'll say it once, I'll say it again:

Are some of you watching the show called "Breaking Bad" before you post on here? Or are you watching something else on TLC? Because holy fark what the hell.
2012-09-03 12:51:23 AM  
1 votes:

NASAM: Degenz: Okay, ya'll are on meth...or something.

How exactly is Hank going to put together the W.W reference just because he picks up a book in the crapper inscribed G.B. and which might have been inscribed years before Gale was even born?

And he wasn't at Walt and Skylars house, you dumbasses.

Dear God you are a moron.


Hey Sweetcakes I already kissed ass for that mistake. It doesn't matter who's house Hank was taking a shiat at if you want to argue the point.

In the end the whole farking story line is crap. Unless you like a circle jerk of continuous unbelief with your dose of bullshiat.
2012-09-03 12:46:55 AM  
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count_chimpula: It was Mike's gun in the money bag.

Jesse recognized the gun and knew then that Mike was dead. That's why he was so devastated after he opened the bags.


Jesus, you people. Jesse had that gun, already. He went to answer the door with it. Jesse doesn't know Mike's dead. There's nothing in the bag that would tell Jesse that Mike is dead. There's no reason for Walt to tell Jesse that's Mike's dead. This is totally going to be the new "Jesse didn't shoot Gale", isn't it?
2012-09-03 12:44:47 AM  
1 votes:

Grungehamster: but it appears to be the same model of gun as Mike's if I recall correctly


The f*ck? Walt shot Mike with a revolver. Do you not know the difference between a revolver and a not-revolver?
2012-09-03 12:40:49 AM  
1 votes:

Butterflew: I really liked the stabby stabby scene


I wonder how that conversation went with the censors...

BrBa: Can we have Mike write a note to Gomez that says "Fark You" ?
Censors: Heavens no! Think of the children!

BrBa: Can we show 9 convicts get brutally prison shanked and/or set on fire?
Censors: Well... OK. As long as you set it to a snappy jazz tune.
2012-09-03 12:40:12 AM  
1 votes:

Grungehamster: Haven't seen a response, and since the rerun is about to hit the scene:

Were the bags of money Walt gave Jessie just Jessie's cut and Jessie had that gun as a separate thing, or did Walt leave Jessie the bags and gun Mike tried to skip town with (which was my understanding of the scene)?

Haven't seen anyone other than me suggest that Walt basically signaled to Jessie that Mike is dead and he was involved.


No, that was Jesse's gun. How would he even know about Mike's gun in the bag and what his bag looked like?
2012-09-03 12:39:35 AM  
1 votes:

Grungehamster: Haven't seen a response, and since the rerun is about to hit the scene:

Were the bags of money Walt gave Jessie just Jessie's cut and Jessie had that gun as a separate thing, or did Walt leave Jessie the bags and gun Mike tried to skip town with (which was my understanding of the scene)?

Haven't seen anyone other than me suggest that Walt basically signaled to Jessie that Mike is dead and he was involved.


Jesse grabbed the gun after seeing it was Walt at the door because Jesse believes Walt is a psychopath and is scared shiatless of him. Jesse already knew that Walt killed Mike. That's what they were discussing before reminiscing about the camper.

The money in the bags was Jesse's cut and Walt felt he needed to give him it to get "out".
2012-09-03 12:33:03 AM  
1 votes:

CTZanderman: thisisyourbrainonFark: Grungehamster: Haven't seen a response, and since the rerun is about to hit the scene:

Were the bags of money Walt gave Jessie just Jessie's cut and Jessie had that gun as a separate thing, or did Walt leave Jessie the bags and gun Mike tried to skip town with (which was my understanding of the scene)?

Haven't seen anyone other than me suggest that Walt basically signaled to Jessie that Mike is dead and he was involved.

Walt apparently told Saul who told Jessie.

I figured that conversation had nothing to do with Mike, but rather the nine in jail. Jessie didn't have to sell the place or leave town because Walt tied up the loose ends. Walt killing Mike will stay strictly between Walt and Todd; I have a hard time imagining an armed Jessie would let Walt simply walk out of the room if he knew what Walt had liquified Mike.


He didn't have the gun; he finds the gun in the bags of cash. Mike was trying to skip town with those two big black bags of cash, with a gun and holster in one of them. That was the gun Walt shot Mike with in his car.
2012-09-03 12:26:11 AM  
1 votes:
Apparently somebody figured this out a while back. I actually feel like it's a bit less sloppy now that I see exactly how Walt treated the book (and where he was in the show, having just started up Vamanos as a front) when he found it.

i.imgur.com
2012-09-03 12:25:42 AM  
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Sandor at the Zoo: As soon as Hank walked into that bathroom (which, yes, is weird that he's using the master bath) I became so tense that I circled right back around to giddy anticipation.

That book, man. That f*cking book.


shiatting in an out of the way bathroom is a courtesy that I wish more people would use at get togethers.
2012-09-03 12:21:53 AM  
1 votes:

Degenz: Aww f*ck, of course they were all at Hank's house. Where else would they be with Holly and Flynn?

And that's what I hate about this show. Vince Gilligan shifts times and locations so frequently you can't keep track of the story line. I should have been paying closer attention but I was too busy reading you doosh bags comments here :D


No ones buying what you're selling :) 0/10
2012-09-03 12:14:34 AM  
1 votes:
Why does everyone keep saying "ricin cigarette" like it's something you would smoke? Jesse just put the vial in an emptied cigarette to hide it.
2012-09-03 12:04:52 AM  
1 votes:

rocinante721: Walt's ego is his Achilles Heel. The Gale dedication was a verbal BJ to Walt



I don't think it ever occurred to Walt that anyone could ever trace the book back to Gale. I don't even think it was ego. I think he liked Gale and kept it as something to remember him by.
2012-09-02 11:57:36 PM  
1 votes:
Alright! F*ck you farkers.

I can take a beat down!


/Just STFU already
2012-09-02 11:44:40 PM  
1 votes:

Degenz: Alright, everyone is calling me out. The repeat is going now, I'll check.



That's the pool that's been in Walt's backyard since Season 1. It's where the pink teddy bear fell out of the crashing plane. It's where the poisoned berries are planted. It's where Skyler wandered into the pool earlier this season when she was having a meltdown. Do you really think that in a show this meticulously crafted they would go and "Oops, we accidentally shot this entire scene at the wrong house!! Doh!!!!"
2012-09-02 11:41:28 PM  
1 votes:

Degenz: And he wasn't at Walt and Skylars house, you dumbasses.



You should just stop talking now.
2012-09-02 11:36:26 PM  
1 votes:

Magruda: show me: I will cut Vince G some slack, because they need time to write a really good ending. I'm sure they will come up with something really kick ass. That said, if after TEN MONTHS they don't come out with an awesome product for some reason, I'm gonna be pissed.

They have already filmed it


Nope. They start filming in November.
2012-09-02 11:31:27 PM  
1 votes:

VRaptor117: rocinante721: Degenz: libranoelrose: [i.imgur.com image 834x1200]

Thank you!

So why is this book sitting in Hank's crapper?

He unpacked it when he moved back into the house at beginning of season. Must have made its way into the crapper library

The second plot hole of the episode. Who reads poetry when thy're pinching one off?


No kidding. I recite Shakespearean monologues like a normal person.
2012-09-02 11:31:07 PM  
1 votes:
Walt Whitman died from lung complications/disease
2012-09-02 11:25:53 PM  
1 votes:

show me: I will cut Vince G some slack, because they need time to write a really good ending. I'm sure they will come up with something really kick ass. That said, if after TEN MONTHS they don't come out with an awesome product for some reason, I'm gonna be pissed.


They have already filmed it
2012-09-02 11:20:18 PM  
1 votes:
Also, this is Vince's way of having us go back and watching previous $easons......
2012-09-02 11:19:50 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-09-02 11:18:51 PM  
1 votes:

jj325: shower_in_my_socks: res_nihil: So did Gale give Walt that book at some point, or was it a piece of evidence? I don't recall when it initially came into play.


I believe there was a different piece of evidence in Gail's apartment -- probably his meth cooking notebook that he used to write down Walt's method -- that had the W.W. initials in it. Hank now knows that Walt was working with Gail to cook meth. I've always wondered what Hank would do if he figured it out. Lots and lots of negatives for him professionally and personally to arrest Walt.

Walt will slow Hank down by telling him the book is from some other G. B., and the reason he knew the W. W. connection in Gale's notebook was because he had this book


Hank won't tell walt he found the book. hank will take it and match the handwriting.
2012-09-02 11:18:37 PM  
1 votes:

VRaptor117: The biggest plot hole of the episode is actually why did hank use the master bathroom and not the guest bathroom. Is there only one in the house> You're telling me every time Jr. takes a dump he has to go through mom and dad's room?



He doesn't want to stink up the bathroom everyone else is using.
2012-09-02 11:17:46 PM  
1 votes:
I love this show's sense of irony. Hank found out right after Walt finally came to his senses and decided to get out.
2012-09-02 11:13:16 PM  
1 votes:

Ivo Shandor: Damn you Walt Whitman!


And the comments to this have already started including the episode.
2012-09-02 11:10:48 PM  
1 votes:

libranoelrose: Degenz: Does anyone have a screen cap of that?

I'll have one in a minute. I had to go take a Hank.


HA!! Goddamn I love this show! Next season could still go a million different ways
2012-09-02 11:04:31 PM  
1 votes:
Folks, it's been a pleasure doing these threads over the past eight weeks. These next ten months are going to SUCK.

We'll be back with the episode nine discussion thread...next July.

F*ck.
2012-09-02 11:03:31 PM  
1 votes:
NOW THAT IS A CLIFF HANGER
2012-09-02 11:03:13 PM  
1 votes:
GOD DAMN YOU "MID SEASON BREAK"
2012-09-02 10:59:20 PM  
1 votes:
"Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in!"
2012-09-02 10:59:18 PM  
1 votes:
hm, what kind of trick is this?
2012-09-02 10:56:06 PM  
1 votes:
So I guess this means the Whites are officially 1% 'ers.
2012-09-02 10:56:03 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, just shut up and kiss him already.
2012-09-02 10:50:04 PM  
1 votes:
And to think at one time Walt would have settled for $737,000......
2012-09-02 10:34:27 PM  
1 votes:
Purple pillows, purple rug.

Dammit, Marie.
2012-09-02 10:33:40 PM  
1 votes:
Knob Creek? I knew I liked Hank for some reason.
2012-09-02 10:29:22 PM  
1 votes:
I'm buying a Chrysler 300 to show my appreciation for how awesome that scene was.
2012-09-02 10:28:12 PM  
1 votes:
Note to self: Never go to prison.
2012-09-02 10:25:27 PM  
1 votes:
Godfather moment
2012-09-02 10:25:24 PM  
1 votes:
It's like the end of The Godfather.
2012-09-02 10:21:22 PM  
1 votes:
They keep showing the Walt Whitman book...WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!
2012-09-02 10:16:11 PM  
1 votes:
Wow...Lydia's six sigma buzzword schpiel saved her ass.



For now.
2012-09-02 10:03:41 PM  
1 votes:

Lsherm: coscausticevil: VRaptor117: odinsposse: My guess is Hank gets hot onto Walt's tail. I'm sure most of those nine guys in prison are dead but I think Hank will still find a link.

This is my guess, too. hank will find some piece of evidence that will implicate Walt, but he won't make the connection just yet. Because they want to leave us craving the next season.

Just curious, what was the reason for splitting the last season? AMC's greed/desire to drag out the ratings?

i said it last thread and i'll say it again. when there is a year long break between new episodes it's not a "mid season break". IT'S TWO SEPARATE SEASONS

No shiat. The original justification they peddled was that they couldn't fit the final season into 13 episodes, so they were going to split it up. However, it's still only going to be 3 more episodes than the standard 13 episode season. Then I heard they wanted to break up production into two parts, which didn't make any sense to me because that will make it more expensive, and Sony and AMC fought about the cost of the final season for months.

The real reason, I suspect, is that AMC gets an entire extra year of selling ads on reruns for the first part of Season 5.


i think it's so they can be nominated for emmys for two years instead of one..
2012-09-02 09:06:40 PM  
1 votes:
Before the more DERPY theories start rolling in, let me just say:

THERE IS NO RICIN CIGARETTE!!!!!
2012-09-02 07:54:52 PM  
1 votes:

elvisaintdead: thamike: Probably not this, judging by how they like to joke around with their foreshadowing.

nope, but consider what they did with "Heat" and its "Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner" line.

look how that showed up *exactly* a few eps later w/ Mike having to abandon his granddaughter.


A lot of these kinds of movies (in this case a TV show), there's a rule or code that the protagonist holds to that keeps him alive. Then he breaks it for some trivial reason and it kills him or gets him busted. Heat, Carlito's Way, Goodfellas, Scarface, Reservoir Dogs, etc

White's rule is that he's meticulous and exact about everything. Something's going to make him allow himself to get sloppy and badda bing! Walt Jr becomes the new Godfather. Or something.
2012-09-02 04:06:53 PM  
1 votes:
I predict that in the fictional world of Breaking Bad-that methamphetamine will become legal when a new politician named "Paul Ronald" becomes president. Walter White at this point will become a national celebrity when his cooking show (in the vein of Julia Childs) teaches average Americans different recipes like blue sky meth. Towards the end of the series even delves into MDMA recipes.
2012-09-02 01:50:08 AM  
1 votes:
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