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2012-09-02 11:15:40 PM

TV's Vinnie: [i45.tinypic.com image 639x440]

If we pulled back on this shot, would we see him holdingup a glass of champagne and his foot on the front bumper of an old cream-colored Mercedes?


My parents taught me never to be more than 26 minutes away from a gym.
 
2012-09-02 11:16:12 PM
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Alexander Reber
21, alternate delegate from Virginia, head of University of Virginia student legislature

"It was because of [Virginia Gov.] Bob McDonnell. I met him at an event, and he was focused on higher education, transportation, smaller government forcing women to have transvaginal ultrasounds. All the things I'm interested in."
 
2012-09-02 11:31:31 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: snip

Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself, Mitt Romneys Tax Return? What makes you so special that Mitt doesn't want to reveal you?
 
2012-09-02 11:51:54 PM
It's hilarious how easy it is to get the lackwits to spin their wheels about reproductive rights. Pavlov's farking dogs.
 
2012-09-02 11:55:23 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Often what you're labeling as "willfully stupid" are just one issue voters.


That meets the criteria for 'willfully stupid' in my book.
 
2012-09-02 11:55:45 PM

intelligent comment below: the.swartz: buckler: As it is, we're just getting a bunch of yahoos screaming at each other, and trying to silence each other. That's not the way it's supposed to work. I think this is why the Founders came out as opposed to political parties in the first place.

Brilliant. Nicely stated. Most accurate thing I have seen in any political thread.


The founders were also opposed to a standing permanent army but that doesn't stop society from accepting it today


They also put forth the second amendment with the justification that we need local militias, but we don't see many of those.
 
2012-09-02 11:57:14 PM

UndeadPoetsSociety: That meets the criteria for 'willfully stupid' in my book.


My single issue is whether Romney or Obama will enforce an executive order to force the History Channel to go back to showing actual history.
 
2012-09-03 12:22:52 AM
Pro-life men. Yawn. Call me if you grow a uterus- then maybe you'll be allowed an opinion on the subject that matters.
 
2012-09-03 12:27:40 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: UndeadPoetsSociety: That meets the criteria for 'willfully stupid' in my book.

My single issue is whether Romney or Obama will enforce an executive order to force the History Channel to go back to showing actual history.


cdn.celebritycarsblog.com

"History? It's sort of old. It has a limited market. I'll give you twenty bucks."
 
2012-09-03 12:45:39 AM

bunner: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: UndeadPoetsSociety: That meets the criteria for 'willfully stupid' in my book.

My single issue is whether Romney or Obama will enforce an executive order to force the History Channel to go back to showing actual history.

[cdn.celebritycarsblog.com image 245x290]

"History? It's sort of old. It has a limited market. I'll give you twenty bucks."


He could at least call in his "expert".
 
2012-09-03 12:45:52 AM

bunner: "History? It's sort of old. It has a limited market. I'll give you twenty bucks."


I hate you. I love you, but I also hate you.
 
2012-09-03 12:47:16 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: bunner: "History? It's sort of old. It has a limited market. I'll give you twenty bucks."

I hate you. I love you, but I also hate you.


Are you my ex-wife?
 
2012-09-03 12:49:12 AM

Jadedgrl: Pro-life men. Yawn. Call me if you grow a uterus- then maybe you'll be allowed an opinion on the subject that matters.


Maybe when you can learn to make sperm out of Cool Whip, Sprite and mayo, you can have the *only* opinion on the subject. : )
 
2012-09-03 12:51:07 AM
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2012-09-03 12:58:41 AM

bunner: Jadedgrl: Pro-life men. Yawn. Call me if you grow a uterus- then maybe you'll be allowed an opinion on the subject that matters.

Maybe when you can learn to make sperm out of Cool Whip, Sprite and mayo, you can have the *only* opinion on the subject. : )


All the sperm in the world doesn't matter without a woman willing to carry it. Something I'm sure the majority of Republican men have trouble finding.
Besides, synthetic sperm cells are able to be made
from embryonic stem cells and even bone marrow. Go ahead, look it up. So no, actually you're not that needed. :) Not that any self respecting woman would lay with someone who doesn't think she should have control over her reproductive choices.
 
2012-09-03 01:00:01 AM

Jadedgrl: All the sperm in the world doesn't matter without a woman willing to carry it. Something I'm sure the majority of Republican men have trouble finding.
Besides, synthetic sperm cells are able to be made
from embryonic stem cells and even bone marrow. Go ahead, look it up. So no, actually you're not that needed. :) Not that any self respecting woman would lay with someone who doesn't think she should have control over her reproductive choices.


You have kool aid on your chin. Did you know? : )
 
2012-09-03 01:01:54 AM
Oh, and if you want to invest half of your biological equation into something knocked together in a petri dish, that works fine for me. I'll make sure and tell my grandkids that their gramma is a cheap, gutless slag, bereft of self -esteem, though. *snort*
 
2012-09-03 01:08:22 AM
Because I claim to want the least amount of gov't interference, yet want filthy abortion seekers, recreational drug users, and to face punishment from gov't authority. They can get all that tax money to imprison them from somewhere else though, Im gonna funnel all my profits offshore like Romney and support further worthwhile conservative endeavors.
 
2012-09-03 01:26:23 AM
Reading this thread makes me glad I'm not a Dumbocrat... The excessively low IQs out here always make me laugh... I would pity most of you, but you brought it on yourselves...
 
2012-09-03 01:27:43 AM
Because you're a farking retard?
 
2012-09-03 01:31:14 AM

diaphoresis: Reading this thread makes me glad I'm not a Dumbocrat... The excessively low IQs out here always make me laugh... I would pity most of you, but you brought it on yourselves...


Believe me. There's no way anybody would mistake you for a democrat. Or as somebody who can enter a debate with something other than a loud fart and a hearty shout of "that's cause y'all STINK!" HAW!"

-1/10

-1 for the made up, 3rd grade word as witty scathingly witty. : )

Haw.
 
2012-09-03 01:32:53 AM

bunner: diaphoresis: Reading this thread makes me glad I'm not a Dumbocrat... The excessively low IQs out here always make me laugh... I would pity most of you, but you brought it on yourselves...

Believe me. There's no way anybody would mistake you for a democrat. Or as somebody who can enter a debate with something other than a loud fart and a hearty shout of "that's cause y'all STINK!" HAW!"

-1/10

-1 for the made up, 3rd grade word as witty scathingly witty. : )

Haw.


Awww... isn't that cute.. go to bed dear.. it's way past your bedtime...
 
2012-09-03 01:44:36 AM
-4/10 : )
 
2012-09-03 01:49:26 AM

diaphoresis: bunner: diaphoresis: Reading this thread makes me glad I'm not a Dumbocrat... The excessively low IQs out here always make me laugh... I would pity most of you, but you brought it on yourselves...

Believe me. There's no way anybody would mistake you for a democrat. Or as somebody who can enter a debate with something other than a loud fart and a hearty shout of "that's cause y'all STINK!" HAW!"

-1/10

-1 for the made up, 3rd grade word as witty scathingly witty. : )

Haw.

Awww... isn't that cute.. go to bed dear.. it's way past your bedtime...


How sad an existence you must have. Having to troll a dead politics thread at 130 am before labor day must suck.
 
2012-09-03 02:26:50 AM

EnviroDude: Because I keep hearing that democrats want to destroy the Republic.

 

FTFY
 
2012-09-03 02:29:39 AM

Ricardo Klement: He also needs to label his farking axes!


A guy who votes for the party that believes we are on the far side of the laffer curve demanding more accurate axis labeling? That's rich.

There are arguments in favor of decreasing taxation to be made, but the constantly repeated lie that it will increase total revenues is simply shenanigans. That it also comes from the side that doesn't really want to reduce everyone's taxes, but only the Job Creators makes it doubly ridiculous. The marginal difference in hours and effort put into earning an extra dollar is higher for poor people than it is for rich, so if we were to presume that people are choosing not to work that extra hour or work harder because of the top marginal tax rate, then lowering it for the lower brackets would provide the bigger boost, to say nothing of the basics of supply and demand and that poor people spend all of their money while rich have the capability to horde.


What a farking joke.

I'm not against the concept of balancing spending and taxation, and I'm not against the concept that keeping them low could be a good thing. I can even find acceptable the theory of busting up safety nets and welfare (provided we bust them down all the way and accept people dying destitute) as a functional solution, albeit a callous one to some. You say you'd do a write-in vote to try to send some kind of a message that the conservative party is going off the rails, but you know what, its been off those rails since before I was born.

I know this is a liberal site, and I have no problem saying I'm pretty liberal (more than the general public, while less than fark), but I can't figure out how some of you proclaimed conservatives can see anything in the Republican party. You should have been coming to the conclusions you seem to be drawing now 30 or more years ago. The party has been a mash-up of religious fundamentalism, cultural regression and bigotry, and completely retarded economics since before I was born. Yet for thirty years, it has managed to keep voters like you in the fold despite all that by pointing at liberals and yelling "TAXES, SPENDING, ZOMG" What few things they did have good ideas on economically have been taken in by the democrats and subsequently labeled socialism (cap and trade being called socialist? wtf).

I mean sweet jesus, at least for the fundies and the bigots they actually GET a taste of what the Republicans promise them. A guy like you has reasonable social views, has foreign policy views that are right there with Obama, etc, but because you've got a bug up your arse about keynsian economics you vote for the team that is against you on all the issues, doesn't practice good economic policies under any theory (unless I am misunderstanding your viewpoints and you like Paul Ryan's economics), but because it loosely and vaguely talks about the economy in soundbites that kinda sorta make sense, they get your vote?
 
2012-09-03 02:41:41 AM
Money to operate the machinery of governance comes from taxes. We are 14,000,000,000,000.00 in hock and printing IOUs. Lower taxes on the people with the most IOUs will fix that. Ah, ha ha.
 
2012-09-03 02:55:07 AM
Step back a few feet from all the assumptions about our government.

Look at it for what it is. A business.

Now, look at what it's been doing for 35 years in the view of what has hallmarked other businesses.

When you start to mouth the words "My God, they're busting the joint out!", you're up to speed. Now, in 25 words or less, *THIS* election will change all that because...
 
2012-09-03 03:06:18 AM

Ricardo Klement: KiltedBastich: Your 2nd point and your 4th point are inconsistent with each other on the face of it, as the only arguments that support the pro-life position are those that derive from religion. Science tells us that nothing like a soul has ever been discovered, and a fetus lacks a nervous system (necessary for any other possible definition of human) until late in the second trimestre. Thus any assertion that a zygote should have full rights is specious and arbitrary on the face of it unless you allow for the religious argument - which you expressly deny allowing as a political argument in your 4th point.

No one is talking about aborting late-term fetuses except in cases of extreme danger to the life of the mother, and even then most of the time it's a premature birth, not an abortion. The pro-life crowd is talking about preventing abortion during early development, before the formation of the nervous system. If you support that position, then I must conclude you're not paying attention to the detailed ramification of how the positions you claim to espouse here affect each other.

There are pro-life atheists. And while I'm not an atheist, I came to my conclusion without the need to resort to religious arguments. Whether a fetus is a person is not something where the answer seems obvious to me. I'm actually for abortion when the life of the mother is at stake, which sometimes is only discovered in the last trimester. I'm not an absolutist and I'm open to the discussion. I'm not actually comfortable banning the morning after pill, so my pro-lifeness is not nearly so strong as the GOP's has been in general. But you may be right: I haven't developed a Grand Unification Theory of my positions. In my defense, I bet that's rare for anyone.


THE EFFING MORNING AFTER PILL IS NOT ABORTION.

and as a woman who wholeheartedly supports the "safe legal rare" approach, that you can now buy it BTC is a VERY good thing.

I once drove a bad-reactions-to-BC friend around on a Saturday morning trying to find Plan B. When you could buy it BTC (behind the counter ) I damn near cried.

If I somehow had a kid naturally I'd love him or her to death... but there are too many kids who need homes so why would I
 
2012-09-03 03:12:07 AM

ignatius_crumbcake: I used to be a republican because I believe in small government and individual rights. Unfortunately the republican party no longer agrees with me.


More or less this.
 
2012-09-03 04:01:24 AM
Oh, so that's why you think you're a Republican??? Well let me, who clearly knows better than you, TELL you why! *angry gibberish*
 
2012-09-03 04:18:56 AM

buckler: intelligent comment below: the.swartz: buckler: As it is, we're just getting a bunch of yahoos screaming at each other, and trying to silence each other. That's not the way it's supposed to work. I think this is why the Founders came out as opposed to political parties in the first place.

Brilliant. Nicely stated. Most accurate thing I have seen in any political thread.


The founders were also opposed to a standing permanent army but that doesn't stop society from accepting it today

They also put forth the second amendment with the justification that we need local militias, but we don't see many of those.



You do. They're called the National Guard and local police forces
 
2012-09-03 05:15:45 AM

intelligent comment below: buckler: intelligent comment below: the.swartz: buckler: As it is, we're just getting a bunch of yahoos screaming at each other, and trying to silence each other. That's not the way it's supposed to work. I think this is why the Founders came out as opposed to political parties in the first place.

Brilliant. Nicely stated. Most accurate thing I have seen in any political thread.


The founders were also opposed to a standing permanent army but that doesn't stop society from accepting it today

They also put forth the second amendment with the justification that we need local militias, but we don't see many of those.


You do. They're called the National Guard and local police forces


If a hostile foreign military appeared on US soil (not talking about embassy's) you would see an angry shiatload of well equipped militias in a heartbeat.
 
2012-09-03 05:34:54 AM

diadelsuerte: Riche: There's only two REAL reasons to be Republican today:

either wealthy sociopath or ignorant/delusional.

It's pretty damn scary when you think about just how many Americans are willing to swallow obvious lies and vote against the best interests of themselves, their country, and world. And you can FORGET about reasoning pretty much any of them out of it-- their faith in The GOP is very similar to religious faith. You might as well try to reason the average Southren Baptist out of Christianity.

Yes, most of the Democratic leadership is corrupt too, but they aren't trying to lock-step the nation into some kind of bankrupt, theocratic third-world hellhole.

So you are basically pigeonholing half of the population as either mentally unstable and/or stupid. How compassionate of you.


Accurate, you mean. Though it's less than half, it's about half of the people who vote.
 
2012-09-03 07:46:23 AM
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2012-09-03 07:59:26 AM
i1089.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-03 08:12:52 AM
I'm a registered Republican because I can't bear to be a Democrat, and there were no other options on my voter registration form.

I'm probably going to do a write-in vote for Dr. Zoidberg.
 
2012-09-03 08:17:03 AM

daveUSMC: I can't bear to be a Democrat,


i1089.photobucket.com


How 29 Palms these days?
 
2012-09-03 08:18:08 AM
How's, not how.

\not feeling the love
 
2012-09-03 08:29:09 AM

FuturePastNow: 14) I switched to Republican after a friend who worked for the Log Cabin Republicans asked me to be his secretary. They helped me learn how to fundraise, how to organize, how to make decisions about candidates. The big issue for me was the DREAM Act, because it's giving priorities to illegal aliens. That really pushed me away from the Democrats.

The DREAM Act that had strong bipartisan support?



This one got me. If they are willing to serve in the military and potentially DIE for the country, that does not qualify them to be eligible to obtain citizenship. Coming from a minority herself.
 
2012-09-03 08:49:33 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: runcible spork: Yes, government and private sector working together. And contrary to what randomjsa stated before, Democrats don't want people beholden to government. They want the government beholden to the people, whom it represents. Republicans want government as weak as possible so as to clear aware regulations and enforcement which prevent rapacious business from screwing everyone and everything else in pursuit of the almighty dollar for their stockholders.

Politics as football:

Conservatives would like to remove rules until the sport is survival of the fittest:

[i.imgur.com image 559x313]

Liberals would like to see rules put in place and followed fairly to minimize the chances of this:

[i.imgur.com image 639x362]


That's an excellent point, but I saw something recently that reminded me even more strongly of what passes for the modern "right wing". It was a montage of NASCAR clips. I had no idea this had become a "thing," but apparently it has become very common for drivers who have been in pileups to climb out of their car, and then fling their helmet at another car, the one they consider to be responsible for the pileup.

So a driver, who does all of the same crap that every other NASCAR driver does, climbs out of his car, once his chance at winning this race is gone, and flings his helmet in disgust at another driver still in the race. Quite possibly causing another pileup. And he might even walk onto the track and force other cars to slam on the brakes or swerve around him.

Boehner. Debt cap negotiations. McConnel. Top priority is denying Obama a second term. Immediately what I thought of.

This Is Your Modern Republican Party.

(I can't believe that those NASCAR drivers aren't tossed out for life, but apparently, based on the length of this montage, this sort of thing is very popular with mouthbreathing NASCAR fans, and if'n they like it, then it must be legal.)
 
2012-09-03 08:49:36 AM

Ricardo Klement: There are pro-life atheists. And while I'm not an atheist, I came to my conclusion without the need to resort to religious arguments. Whether a fetus is a person is not something where the answer seems obvious to me. I'm actually for abortion when the life of the mother is at stake, which sometimes is only discovered in the last trimester. I'm not an absolutist and I'm open to the discussion. I'm not actually comfortable banning the morning after pill, so my pro-lifeness is not nearly so strong as the GOP's has been in general. But you may be right: I haven't developed a Grand Unification Theory of my positions. In my defense, I bet that's rare for anyone.


Weather or not the fetus is a person or not always seemed to me to be a diversion from the more fundamental issue of whether it has the right to enslave the mother as a life support system. If it doesn't, then abortion should, at the very least, be legal up until the point of viability.

Even if a zygote were entitled to the full spectrum of constitutional rights, it's hard to see how the right to force another person to keep them alive would be included. It would be akin to forcing someone with a tissue match to donate a kidney (or some other redundant organ) to save a life.

From another angle, Conservatives are usually staunch defenders of the Castle Doctrine with respect to protecting their homes. I don't understand why so many of them begrudge women the right to protect their bodies the same way.
 
2012-09-03 08:52:03 AM

zappaisfrank: Vindibudd: MacEnvy:
Because I'm an asshole.

This is what Democrats call tolerance.

Right, because Republican tolerance involves repeated usage of words like Libtard, Marxist, Socialist, Kenyan Muslim Usurper, America Hater, Liberal Scum, etc.

You have no argument there, Vin boy...seriously.


Don't feed the troll, ignore them.
 
2012-09-03 08:55:26 AM
PopularFront: Weather

Oops, Whether, not Weather
 
2012-09-03 08:55:46 AM

DeltaPunch: than to have one more penny of it go to the richest assholes that will move it offshore to avoid paying taxes.


Your taxes dont go to Rich people. They pay taxes, just not what you'd want them to pay.

This pretty much holds true for the 98% of people who think everyone else should ride the bus to work.

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: he's convinced me that he will sign whatever legislation the Tea Party Congress places on his desk. Do you "hold your nose and vote for the sane Democrat" or are you going to vote for the Republican anyway, even those he's the sort of person you're remaining in the party to fight against?


The Tea party is a strong libertarian-leaning bloc within the GOP. If anything, they are looking to primary out the congressmen who came into prominence during the 94-04 elections which was the heyday of the social conservative. While many individuals who identify themselves as tea party, you will find that a scant few of them believe government should be legislating their view of morality on everyone else. The GOP is leaning more and more towards a platform of fiscal conservatism since social conservatism is no longer a winner. Still, the social conservatives are like a turd that takes 2 or 3 flushes to get rid of. The second the party gets rid of the people who think gays and non-Christians are trying to destroy the world, the better off we'll be as a country and hopefully we can have honest debates about the stuff that matters.

intelligent comment below: You do. They're called the National Guard and local police forces


You also see local militias during times of disaster where people come together and form watches to protect their property and livelihood. Happens during hurricanes all the time. Funny how Federalist 28 envisioned the need for it?

IlGreven: And, in fact, the Obama administration has seen the largest decline in government jobs in recent history. That's at least step 1.


With a sharp decline in revenues, it only makes sense that government worker jobs cannot be sustained. Of course, the president believes that everything else is doing fine, if we could just raise taxes to put more cops, teachers and firefighters on the beat then we'd have 4% unemployment and a balanced budget.
 
2012-09-03 09:15:50 AM
Why I'm a Republican

I don't care why crazy people in the nut house think they are Napoleon.

Why would i care about the rationalizations that crazy people who are not in the nut house come up with.
 
2012-09-03 09:18:18 AM

o5iiawah: Your taxes dont go to Rich people.


Anti-socialist Bachmann got $250K in federal farm subsidies

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Antisocialist_Bachmann _ got_250k_in_federal_farm_subsidies.html
 
2012-09-03 09:23:41 AM
o5iiawah: Your taxes dont go to Rich people.

Ever hear of TARP Einstein
 
2012-09-03 09:27:42 AM
o5iiawah: Your taxes dont go to Rich people.

Corporate welfare

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html
 
2012-09-03 09:28:34 AM

Bob16: Why would i care about the rationalizations that crazy people who are not in the nut house come up with.


Because you're talking about that and not something important. It's called bounding the debate with process stories.
 
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