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2012-09-02 05:49:29 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: I used to be a republican because I believe in small government and individual rights. Unfortunately the republican party no longer agrees with me.


that's kinda where i am. i got older and got tired of my party screwing over folks just because they could. i got tired of being told that i didn't count because i wasn't in lock step with them on social issues and only by bringing the bible into every aspect of government would we be ok. btw these same folks have been railing against "shria law" for some time completely failing to distinguish between government being run by their religious law and someone elses. i got tired of a party that disenfranchised blacks, latinos, the LGBT folks and anyone else who wasn't like them. and all that time they are ranting and raving about the founding fathers values. well when they aren't patting themselves on the back for being "Christian". 

dammit all i voted for Goldwater. do you hear me GOLDWATER. and you assholes have driven me from the party.

that i hated LBJ with a white hot passion had nothing to do with that goldwater thing.
 
2012-09-02 05:51:29 PM

Vindibudd: MacEnvy:
Because I'm an asshole.

This is what Democrats call tolerance.


Oh, we don't begrudge you your right to be alive and free. Like you would with women, gays, lesbians, bisexuals, trans persons, blacks, Latinos, Muslims, intellectuals, scientists, the poor, and oh yes, Democrats.

But when a petulant child is smearing shiat on my walls, I reserve the right to call it a petulant child and, ideally, send it to its room until it grows the hell up.

Or, in shorter words you might know: 1/10 for effort, and welcome to my ignore list.
 
2012-09-02 05:54:38 PM

EnviroDude: Because democrats want to destroy the Republic.


1 lie.

EnviroDude: I will be able to take a pain pill when I need a pacemaker at an elderly age per Obama. So much for the right to live.


2 lies.

EnviroDude: When the sitting president of the United States says it, it is more than a talking point.


3 lies.

Ah, ah, ah.
 
2012-09-02 05:54:39 PM

DarwiOdrade: www.npr.org

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

 

static.themetapicture.com
 
2012-09-02 05:54:47 PM
I'm not a Republican, so I can't say why I am. I can say why one of my FB friends is though. He is racist. And I don't mean he thinks Obama is a bad president. I mean he outright said, and I quote, "[H]e got elected for one reason only. He is black." You have no idea how much I wish I was kidding.
 
2012-09-02 05:55:47 PM
Hey Fark! Can you allow animated .gifs of moderate size to be posted? It's not 1998 anymore. Spring for a little more bandwidth, wouldapleeze?
 
2012-09-02 05:56:38 PM

TV's Vinnie: DarwiOdrade: [www.npr.org image 485x485]

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." 

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BECAUSE FARK FILTERS SUCK!:

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2012-09-02 05:56:45 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: I used to be a republican because I believe in small government and individual rights. Unfortunately the republican party no longer agrees with me.


So you went with the party that will NEVER believe in small government and individual rights?

/seems legit
 
2012-09-02 06:01:34 PM

Riche: There's only two REAL reasons to be Republican today:

either wealthy sociopath or ignorant/delusional.

It's pretty damn scary when you think about just how many Americans are willing to swallow obvious lies and vote against the best interests of themselves, their country, and world. And you can FORGET about reasoning pretty much any of them out of it-- their faith in The GOP is very similar to religious faith. You might as well try to reason the average Southren Baptist out of Christianity.

Yes, most of the Democratic leadership is corrupt too, but they aren't trying to lock-step the nation into some kind of bankrupt, theocratic third-world hellhole.


So you are basically pigeonholing half of the population as either mentally unstable and/or stupid. How compassionate of you.
 
2012-09-02 06:02:39 PM
Democrat masturbation thread?

why yes, yes it is.
 
2012-09-02 06:05:06 PM

hubiestubert: Weaver95: RoyBatty: Weaver95: i'm gonna guess....a mix of 'battered wife' and 'Stockholm' syndrome.

I don't want to ever see you complaining about idiocy in the politics tab.

It wasn't hard to click on the the dozen or so profiles and see what they had to say, but you couldn't do that, and you started off a thread off putting it right in the trash

I did click on those profiles...and I saw a lot of denial and no awareness of the lies told by Team Romney. dude - this convention went WAY beyond the norm for political campaigns. this convention was almost pure fiction. very little reality invaded the convention floor.

Which is pretty much the opposite of good Conservatism.

Reasoned, careful, and measured response to conditions. Fulfilling the needs of the republic, and preserving said republic. That means, those pesky national parks, our shared resources, and looking towards the future with investment into the nation and those futures.

Not tax breaks. Not railing against marriage equality. Not sending rafts of cash overseas. The entire platform at this point is pretty much the opposite of anything remotely looking like good Conservatism. The radicals have taken the party, and branded it as such.


hubiestubert 2016.
 
2012-09-02 06:10:10 PM

the.swartz: Republican ideal: Abe Lincoln being the first Republican president is a good place to start.


Well, then maybe Thomas Jefferson being the first Democratic president is a good place to start, too, eh?

Or, maybe referring back to 19th Century presidents to understand the principles of a 21st Century party isn't very smart.

the.swartz: I also believe, if any sort of history is correct, that this party tends to be more business-minded, and less about sticking noses in personal choices.


That may have been true at one time. It isn't true today.

the.swartz: Tends to be a little more like "the government will provide you with what you need"


Well, if we look at the Democrats historically -- starting with the first Democrat, Thomas Jefferson -- the ideal was this: leave people alone.

The 20th Century Democratic Party was much more interventionist...but, "the government will provide you with what you need" was NEVER an ideal of the Democratic Party.

The programs supported by the Democrats never were intended to act a substitute for personal responsibility. And, in fact, they've never been that.

Your answers indicate what you have imagined the party ideals are, rather than what they are -- either today or historically.

But, the truth is, we don't have to guess or imagine what the parties stand for. Each party, in fact, publishes a list of its ideals every four years in a document usually called the party platform.

/as an aside, I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican
 
2012-09-02 06:10:21 PM
Mitch McConnell 70, senator from Kentucky
I think we ought to have an opportunity society where everybody has a chance to do as well as they can, and I don't think an oppressive federal government involved in every aspect of our lives will allow you to have an opportunity society.


So, I am against an oppressive federal government involved in every aspect of your lives... except for the aspects of your lives that I deem appropriate to look over.... mostly concerning your bodies ladies.
 
2012-09-02 06:17:44 PM

the.swartz: eraser8: swartz

Republican ideal: Abe Lincoln being the first Republican president is a good place to start. Take a look at the Kansas Nebraska Act. I also believe, if any sort of history is correct, that this party tends to be more business-minded, and less about sticking noses in personal choices.

Democratic ideal: Great place to start, for sure. Absolutely the best thing going at the time. Tends to be a little more like "the government will provide you with what you need" which tends to come with "and we will keep a close eye on you as part of the deal."

Not saying that anyone represents this today, or that these ideals still survivie. I suspect there are those in both parties that believe in something close to the original ideals. Anyway, hope that answers your question.


You never grasped the concept that the poles switched between parties since the civil war, have you? Or that big businesses that look down on you benefits much more from government welfare than the people you look down on? Didn't think so.
 
2012-09-02 06:18:06 PM
Didn't read the article but I suspect that the truthful answer is the one that was omitted from every response:

"I'm someone who settles."
 
2012-09-02 06:23:08 PM

The Troof hurts: So you went with the party that will NEVER believe in small government and individual rights?


The republicans are the party of small government and individual rights? Are you people farking serious? Who started The Patriot Act? Enacted holding people without due process? Are pro-life? Anti-birth control? Ant-gay marriage? Anti-gays in the military? HOW THE FARK are you people pro-individual rights?

And before you say it, The democrats aren't after your farking guns.
 
2012-09-02 06:34:08 PM
If you call yourself, donate to, support or do anything associated with the "Republican" party you are nothing but a racist, bigoted, hateful €sshole. Birds of a feather flock together and even if you aren't one of those birds you are supporting them. That makes you a silent partner, just as bad and more cowardly.

Gay use to mean happy and gleeful.
Republican use to mean fiscally responsible and patriotic.
Neither are even remotely close to true today.

Modern "Republicans" are the worst enemy the United States has ever seen because they have infiltrated our Government.
 
2012-09-02 06:38:10 PM

nyseattitude: If you call yourself, donate to, support or do anything associated with the "Republican" party you are nothing but a racist, bigoted, hateful €sshole. Birds of a feather flock together and even if you aren't one of those birds you are supporting them. That makes you a silent partner, just as bad and more cowardly.

Gay use to mean happy and gleeful.
Republican use to mean fiscally responsible and patriotic.
Neither are even remotely close to true today.

Modern "Republicans" are the worst enemy the United States has ever seen because they have infiltrated our Government.


That's kind of an extreme statement to make.
 
2012-09-02 06:44:07 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: I used to be a republican because I believe in small government and individual rights. Unfortunately the republican party no longer agrees with me.



At what point in history did they actually agree with you? I'm genuinely curious.
 
2012-09-02 06:44:24 PM

randomjsa: Never let it be said that liberals will ever waste a chance to spew hate and misconceptions. There's a reason that when asked to accurately state liberals positions on things, conservatives can, and when asked to accurately state conservatives positions on things, liberals can't. That would be because conservatives don't have to lie to themselves or to each other about what liberals believe in so that their own ideas sound better.

Yes, we DID build that, including all the roads and bridges and infrastructure. All of those things are dependent on American business in order to come to fruition, not the other way around. Without successful hard working people to pay taxes, you don't get to have those nice things. I'm a Republican because I don't believe that being beholden to the government is a good thing. I'm a Republican because I believe it's primarily my own responsibility to take care of me and I don't hold out my hand demanding that anybody who made more than me pay my way too.

I'm a Republican because anyone who is paying attention can plainly see that Democrats maintain and continue to buy their way in to power by finding new and interesting ways to write government checks to as many people as possible and if the country goes broke in the process that's just fine because long term success or failure never mattered to a liberal anyway, only intentions.


I, Mr.Random Republican Jsa am an idiot
 
2012-09-02 06:49:04 PM

skipjack: A liberal circle jerk given to you by the mods...and you guys have barely got it over 50 posts.

/son..i am dissapoint


0/10. Needs a full ellipsis, not a half-assed 2/3rds one.
 
2012-09-02 06:49:22 PM
oi48.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-02 06:49:45 PM
 
2012-09-02 06:51:49 PM

cameroncrazy1984: EnviroDude: I will be able to take a pain pill when I need a pacemaker at an elderly age per Obama. So much for the right to live.

You're bringing up 3 year old, busted talking points? Oh my god, you are so screwed in November.


No, he's right. You forget: he's arguing with the Obama only Republicans can see.
 
2012-09-02 06:54:05 PM

vygramul: cameroncrazy1984: EnviroDude: I will be able to take a pain pill when I need a pacemaker at an elderly age per Obama. So much for the right to live.

You're bringing up 3 year old, busted talking points? Oh my god, you are so screwed in November.

No, he's right. You forget: he's arguing with the Obama only Republicans can see.


Damn you Fartbongo, raiding Medicare benefits that only Envirodude sees!
 
2012-09-02 06:54:30 PM

coeyagi: skipjack: A liberal circle jerk given to you by the mods...and you guys have barely got it over 50 posts.

/son..i am dissapoint

0/10. Needs a full ellipsis, not a half-assed 2/3rds one.


KONOS!

What constitutes a full ellipsis? I've never looked it up.

/now i'm gonna have to.
 
2012-09-02 06:55:47 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Democrat masturbation thread?

why yes, yes it is.


This is what you write when you have zero counter-argument. These are the words of TRUE patriots and REAL Americans who don't need facts, truth or arguments to let you know what they FEEL in their gut is ultimately the best path for America.

Tricolor Patriot Eagles Tears FTW!
 
2012-09-02 06:57:35 PM

skipjack: coeyagi: skipjack: A liberal circle jerk given to you by the mods...and you guys have barely got it over 50 posts.

/son..i am dissapoint

0/10. Needs a full ellipsis, not a half-assed 2/3rds one.

KONOS!

What constitutes a full ellipsis? I've never looked it up.

/now i'm gonna have to.


It's ok, without at least three of more ellipses in a post, you can't be considered for the upper echelons of Fark Thread Crappers Incorporated.
 
2012-09-02 06:58:49 PM

skipjack: coeyagi: skipjack: A liberal circle jerk given to you by the mods...and you guys have barely got it over 50 posts.

/son..i am dissapoint

0/10. Needs a full ellipsis, not a half-assed 2/3rds one.

KONOS!

What constitutes a full ellipsis? I've never looked it up.

/now i'm gonna have to.


Is that before or after "conservatism," "non-sequitur" and "hyperbole"?
 
2012-09-02 07:05:13 PM

DrD'isInfotainment: I, Mr.Random Republican Jsa am an idiot


And?
 
2012-09-02 07:05:41 PM
Let me tell you why I am Republican:

1) My economics education leaves me unconvinced that Keynesian economics can work. The math doesn't seem to support it, although I can appreciate the point of view and the argument that, "...we're all dead in the long-run." And while my economic puritanism runs afoul of Republicans when it comes to funding things like the NIH, NASA, and Department of Education, it's still closer to what the GOP at least pays lip-service to than what the Democratic Party believes. This doesn't mean I think that Democrats are morons. We just disagree.

2) I'm pro-life. Of course, that, too, runs afoul of the GOP because I am also against the death penalty. But while my position is unpopular, more often than not, it's usually met with begging the question assertions about women's bodies that are unconvincing. I'm not absolut or completely without doubts about my position, but being wrong about mine is less tragic than being wrong about the alternative view.

3) I'm hawkish on foreign policy. This means, of course, I'm no libertarian isolationist. My hawkishness is not without limits. For the record, I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iraq, but was not against an impeachment investigation for his being wrong about Iraq. (That's generous. He royally pissed me off.) Anyway, that means I tend to be at odds with Democrats on defense spending.

4) I want to keep fighting the whackjobs in the GOP who have taken the party in a direction it should never have gone. Namely, increasing government interference in our lives in the name of religion. It may be a religion I share, but it's not a religion I believe should be removing free will by creating laws against sins that are God's to punish. 

That's the top reasons. I reserve the right to have more opinions.
 
2012-09-02 07:06:40 PM

skipjack: coeyagi: skipjack: A liberal circle jerk given to you by the mods...and you guys have barely got it over 50 posts.

/son..i am dissapoint

0/10. Needs a full ellipsis, not a half-assed 2/3rds one.

KONOS!

What constitutes a full ellipsis? I've never looked it up.

/now i'm gonna have to.


I think that's when a male stripper strips completely.
 
2012-09-02 07:12:01 PM

Ricardo Klement: Let me tell you why I am Republican:

1) My economics education leaves me unconvinced that Keynesian economics can work. The math doesn't seem to support it, although I can appreciate the point of view and the argument that, "...we're all dead in the long-run." And while my economic puritanism runs afoul of Republicans when it comes to funding things like the NIH, NASA, and Department of Education, it's still closer to what the GOP at least pays lip-service to than what the Democratic Party believes. This doesn't mean I think that Democrats are morons. We just disagree.

2) I'm pro-life. Of course, that, too, runs afoul of the GOP because I am also against the death penalty. But while my position is unpopular, more often than not, it's usually met with begging the question assertions about women's bodies that are unconvincing. I'm not absolut or completely without doubts about my position, but being wrong about mine is less tragic than being wrong about the alternative view.

3) I'm hawkish on foreign policy. This means, of course, I'm no libertarian isolationist. My hawkishness is not without limits. For the record, I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iraq, but was not against an impeachment investigation for his being wrong about Iraq. (That's generous. He royally pissed me off.) Anyway, that means I tend to be at odds with Democrats on defense spending.

4) I want to keep fighting the whackjobs in the GOP who have taken the party in a direction it should never have gone. Namely, increasing government interference in our lives in the name of religion. It may be a religion I share, but it's not a religion I believe should be removing free will by creating laws against sins that are God's to punish. 

That's the top reasons. I reserve the right to have more opinions.


I can disagree with you but I can take you seriously when you type like a mature adult instead of someone who dripped spittle on his keyboard.

1) I can understand some skepticism about Keynesian economics but at least you don't have the blind worship to a purely free market like some folks on the right do. Kudos.

2) Pro-life and against the death penalty? Holy crap, I didn't think people could be that consistent!

3) Being hawkish when it comes to foreign policy always seems to get us into more trouble...which is why I'm against it.

4) More power to you and I wish you all the best. Until some sanity sinks back into the Republican party, we can not have mature political discourse in this country.
 
2012-09-02 07:21:03 PM
The only person who seems to have made a decision not based on or not given a rationale steeped in talking points is Alexander Reber. Shame his party does not care about higher education or transportation and continues to bloat government except in utterly meaningless and invasive ways. Other than a couple folks who seem disillusioned with the party and merely with them for tradition, the rest are speaking in vagueries.
 
2012-09-02 07:23:00 PM

Ricardo Klement: 3) I'm hawkish on foreign policy


Doesn't that go against the whole "pro-life, anti-death penalty" thing?

Well anyway, at least you presented your reasoning in a reasoned manner, even if a lot of it was back handed compliments to the party at best.
 
2012-09-02 07:24:28 PM

Ricardo Klement: Let me tell you why I am Republican:

1) My economics education leaves me unconvinced that Keynesian economics can work. The math doesn't seem to support it, although I can appreciate the point of view and the argument that, "...we're all dead in the long-run." And while my economic puritanism runs afoul of Republicans when it comes to funding things like the NIH, NASA, and Department of Education, it's still closer to what the GOP at least pays lip-service to than what the Democratic Party believes. This doesn't mean I think that Democrats are morons. We just disagree.

2) I'm pro-life. Of course, that, too, runs afoul of the GOP because I am also against the death penalty. But while my position is unpopular, more often than not, it's usually met with begging the question assertions about women's bodies that are unconvincing. I'm not absolut or completely without doubts about my position, but being wrong about mine is less tragic than being wrong about the alternative view.

3) I'm hawkish on foreign policy. This means, of course, I'm no libertarian isolationist. My hawkishness is not without limits. For the record, I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iraq, but was not against an impeachment investigation for his being wrong about Iraq. (That's generous. He royally pissed me off.) Anyway, that means I tend to be at odds with Democrats on defense spending.

4) I want to keep fighting the whackjobs in the GOP who have taken the party in a direction it should never have gone. Namely, increasing government interference in our lives in the name of religion. It may be a religion I share, but it's not a religion I believe should be removing free will by creating laws against sins that are God's to punish. 

That's the top reasons. I reserve the right to have more opinions.


Your 2nd point and your 4th point are inconsistent with each other on the face of it, as the only arguments that support the pro-life position are those that derive from religion. Science tells us that nothing like a soul has ever been discovered, and a fetus lacks a nervous system (necessary for any other possible definition of human) until late in the second trimestre. Thus any assertion that a zygote should have full rights is specious and arbitrary on the face of it unless you allow for the religious argument - which you expressly deny allowing as a political argument in your 4th point.

No one is talking about aborting late-term fetuses except in cases of extreme danger to the life of the mother, and even then most of the time it's a premature birth, not an abortion. The pro-life crowd is talking about preventing abortion during early development, before the formation of the nervous system. If you support that position, then I must conclude you're not paying attention to the detailed ramification of how the positions you claim to espouse here affect each other.
 
2012-09-02 07:25:03 PM

Mugato: The Troof hurts: So you went with the party that will NEVER believe in small government and individual rights?

The republicans are the party of small government and individual rights? Are you people farking serious? Who started The Patriot Act? Enacted holding people without due process? Are pro-life? Anti-birth control? Ant-gay marriage? Anti-gays in the military? HOW THE FARK are you people pro-individual rights?

And before you say it, The democrats aren't after your farking guns.


The present iteration isn't, but there is always The chance that we could get to that ideal. It will never happen in the democratic party.
 
2012-09-02 07:28:06 PM

The Troof hurts: And before you say it, The democrats aren't after your farking guns.

The present iteration isn't, but there is always The chance that we could get to that ideal. It will never happen in the democratic party.


Did you type that correctly?
 
2012-09-02 07:28:16 PM
I disagree with the statement that modern republicans are stupid. That would be to say that we are all (after a fashion) stupid. I look at it this way: You really want a banana, with all your heart. Someone you moderately trust offers you a banana, but you must first cover your eyes. The entire time your eyes are covered, he describes the banana he will give you. It is not a banana, it is something else entirely, but when you open your eyes, what do you think you will see? That is what I read when I read these peoples statements.
 
2012-09-02 07:29:39 PM
So many new righty shills in this thread to label, so little time...
 
2012-09-02 07:32:11 PM

The Troof hurts: The present iteration isn't, but there is always The chance that we could get to that ideal. It will never happen in the democratic party.


Not sure why you believe this. Neither party has shown itself to be the party of smaller government in recent history, and at least one party is unwilling to present itself as such. Being hypocritical in this, the Republicans have essentially shown contempt for the notion of smaller government, just as liars who claim honesty show contempt for the notion of truth. To me, this says the Democratic Party is likelier to begin whittling down the size of government.
 
2012-09-02 07:33:08 PM

RoyBatty: I disagree with these people but I won't insult them, or any of us, by merely rotely, and cheaply, insisting they are stupid, irrational, greedy, brain-washed, corrupt. And I don't think you advance anything, either discourse, or liberal politics, or any of your political goals by doing the same.

This is a farked up thread -- NPR gave us the opportunity to listen and learn and you and the rest just spit in that.


I read all fifteen quotes. Does that make me qualified to think these people are stupid, greedy, brain-washed morons?

1) When I was really embracing who I was in terms of my faith ... as somebody who would be open and honest about my sexuality ... I had decided, 'OK, I'm going to embrace everything I believe in, and that includes my politics.'

-You believe you should be treated like a second-class citizen and that legislation is necessary to prevent you from getting married?

2) I was in college ... and I had read Thomas Sowell's book ["Vision of the Anointed"], and Sowell, eloquently ... lays out the moral cause, for not so much being a Republican but being a conservative. And really changed my life.

-Sowell believed that bigger, more bureaucratic government restricted social and economic freedom. Since a healthy chunk of the Republican Party's platform involves using the power of government to restrain or reverse social progress, it's hard to argue with that point.

3) My parents taught me individual responsibility. You have to rely on yourself to get you anywhere. And I became a Republican because I truly believe that we are giving people the tools to build a successful life and really be a part of the American dream.

-Meaningless platitudes.

4) I love the fact that the Republican Party stands for smaller government, where we make decisions for ourselves and our families.

-Since when?

5) I started to take a closer look at the differences in ideology. ... Republicans were about less government, less taxes, more individual responsibility. Democrats were just the opposite.

-Maybe you should take a closer look at Republicans *do* instead of what they *say*, Herman.

6) I think we ought to have an opportunity society where everybody has a chance to do as well as they can, and I don't think an oppressive federal government involved in every aspect of our lives will allow you to have an opportunity society.

-Except gays and pregnant women, right, Mitch? The government needs to be more involved in their lives, I guess. Also, you look like a turtle.

7) I was a registered independent until 1998. I grew up in Montgomery County [Md.], which has a very liberal atmosphere. I was exposed to a lot of stuff politically, and saw a lot of changes in the '70s through the '90s, and I just knew the conservative leanings that I had, that made me a Republican.

-Since she doesn't elaborate on what social changes from the 70s-90s put her off, I'm going to assume she just hates gays, too. Either that, or she thinks women show too much ankle now. The hussies.

8) People in college a lot of times don't look at the bigger picture. When you get out of college and you're paying taxes, that's when you become a Republican.

-I'll let my parents and grandparents know that they're doing it wrong, thanks.

9) Ronald Reagan is the guy very early in his career as president of the United States that made me very easily affiliate with the Republican Party.

-By increasing government spending, increasing the deficit, and increasing the debt? It's easy to see why you're a Republican.

10) I chose to be a Republican when I first registered to vote. My father was pretty conservative, and I think I inherited that. I've become more disillusioned, more libertarian -- the party has veered off course a little. But it's a dynamic, human organization.

-Well, damn, if that isn't a little ray of honesty. I hope he made it off the convention floor OK.

11) It was because of [Virginia Gov.] Bob McDonnell. I met him at an event, and he was focused on higher education, transportation, smaller government. All the things I'm interested in.

-They say we always hurt the ones we love.

12) I've been an entrepreneur for as long as I can remember; I ran three or four different businesses in grammar school. The ideas that are exposed by the Libertarian Party and the libertarian part of the Republican [Party] really reinforce that Republican spirit.

-I think you may be at the wrong convention.

13) When I started looking [at] and reading their platforms and what they were interested in, I thought, 'I'm in the wrong party.' I said, 'I'm a conservative person.' And I am now a Republican.

-I'm going to take the safe route by simply assuming that she hates gays and abortion.

14) I switched to Republican after a friend who worked for the Log Cabin Republicans asked me to be his secretary. They helped me learn how to fundraise, how to organize, how to make decisions about candidates. The big issue for me was the DREAM Act, because it's giving priorities to illegal aliens. That really pushed me away from the Democrats.

The DREAM Act that had strong bipartisan support?

15) Ronald Reagan. I was in my 20s, just getting a job. And I liked how he was for the people, and we are the people. Government can't run us. It's scary. When Obama won, my stomach was aching. I'd like to see everyone have what I had, and the benefits we've had.

Because I know elderly actors are who I think are in touch with the masses. Hey, I sympathize lady, I know I got a little queasy whenever I saw Dubya on TV.
 
2012-09-02 07:35:51 PM

SusanCreature: why I'm not a Republican:

Stumping on abortion as a major platform issue.

Gimme a call after you've backed away from those two things, no promises but I'll reconsider.


The abortion issue is a valid complaint against us Republicans; it is a war we simply cannot win in its present state.

I am against Roe vs Wade simply because it should be considered a states rights issue - not adjudicated by a court. There will always be states that ban abortion, just like there will always be states that allow that procedure but getting all butthurt and self-righteous about when life begins is simply insane.

It is not up to anyone to mandate whether or not I carry a baby to term; that is between my conscience and my physician.  Personally? I'm pro-life but the decision to terminate a pregnancy is a woman's decision and not my place to force her to act against her conscience.
 
2012-09-02 07:38:02 PM

relcec: if the democratic party just once actually took a political position that was an unadulterated progressive policy I might be forced to admit that party has some actual interests that square with those of the entire body politic, if not me in particular, more than with some political patron getting a fat government handout.



Like a health care plan created by the Heritage Foundation? Oh right...
 
2012-09-02 07:38:26 PM

Spanky McStupid: SusanCreature: why I'm not a Republican:

Stumping on abortion as a major platform issue.

Gimme a call after you've backed away from those two things, no promises but I'll reconsider.

The abortion issue is a valid complaint against us Republicans; it is a war we simply cannot win in its present state.

I am against Roe vs Wade simply because it should be considered a states rights issue - not adjudicated by a court. There will always be states that ban abortion, just like there will always be states that allow that procedure but getting all butthurt and self-righteous about when life begins is simply insane.

It is not up to anyone to mandate whether or not I carry a baby to term; that is between my conscience and my physician.  Personally? I'm pro-life but the decision to terminate a pregnancy is a woman's decision and not my place to force her to act against her conscience.


RINO.

//not by my standards, by the current GOP's.
 
2012-09-02 07:39:27 PM

Ricardo Klement: Let me tell you why I am Republican:

4) I want to keep fighting the whackjobs in the GOP who have taken the party in a direction it should never have gone. Namely, increasing government interference in our lives in the name of religion. It may be a religion I share, but it's not a religion I believe should be removing free will by creating laws against sins that are God's to punish.

I've heard this argument more than once from Republicans posting in this thread. My question for you is this:

Good on you for staying in the Republican Party and fighting the good fight from within. Vote in the primaries for moderate, traditional conservatives.

Now what happens in the general election if the wackjob is the Republican candidate. Romney (if he has any personal convictions whatsoever) may be a moderate, but he's convinced me that he will sign whatever legislation the Tea Party Congress places on his desk. Do you "hold your nose and vote for the sane Democrat" or are you going to vote for the Republican anyway, even those he's the sort of person you're remaining in the party to fight against?
 
2012-09-02 07:40:57 PM

relcec: I also agree with the green party about capital controls to discourage outsourcing

.....statism


So you are AGAINST stateism yet for protectionism? WUT?
 
2012-09-02 07:41:18 PM

Spanky McStupid: It is not up to anyone to mandate whether or not I carry a baby to term; that is between my conscience and my physician.  Personally? I'm pro-life but the decision to terminate a pregnancy is a woman's decision and not my place to force her to act against her conscience.


Then why are you for making it a state's right to make that decision? Your statements are sort of contradictory.
 
2012-09-02 07:42:13 PM

Ricardo Klement: Let me tell you why I am Republican:

[...]

2) I'm pro-life. Of course, that, too, runs afoul of the GOP because I am also against the death penalty. But while my position is unpopular, more often than not, it's usually met with begging the question assertions about women's bodies that are unconvincing. I'm not absolut or completely without doubts about my position, but being wrong about mine is less tragic than being wrong about the alternative view.


I don't understand why being pro-life or pro-choice should have anything to do with a political party--believing something is wrong and wanting it to be illegal are two different things. The problem is, when you make abortion illegal, it gets worse--women have more of them, and much more dangerously, putting their lives (to say nothing of the fetuses') in significant peril.

Whatever your personal opinion on abortion, your choices are 1) make it illegal and let women die from the ones they will get regardless of the law or 2) make them legal and regulated so that they can be as safe as possible for the women who will get them, since they will get them.
 
2012-09-02 07:42:41 PM

Ricardo Klement: Let me tell you why I am Republican:

1) My economics education leaves me unconvinced that Keynesian economics can work. The math doesn't seem to support it, although I can appreciate the point of view and the argument that, "...we're all dead in the long-run." And while my economic puritanism runs afoul of Republicans when it comes to funding things like the NIH, NASA, and Department of Education, it's still closer to what the GOP at least pays lip-service to than what the Democratic Party believes. This doesn't mean I think that Democrats are morons. We just disagree.

2) I'm pro-life. Of course, that, too, runs afoul of the GOP because I am also against the death penalty. But while my position is unpopular, more often than not, it's usually met with begging the question assertions about women's bodies that are unconvincing. I'm not absolut or completely without doubts about my position, but being wrong about mine is less tragic than being wrong about the alternative view.

3) I'm hawkish on foreign policy. This means, of course, I'm no libertarian isolationist. My hawkishness is not without limits. For the record, I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iraq, but was not against an impeachment investigation for his being wrong about Iraq. (That's generous. He royally pissed me off.) Anyway, that means I tend to be at odds with Democrats on defense spending.

4) I want to keep fighting the whackjobs in the GOP who have taken the party in a direction it should never have gone. Namely, increasing government interference in our lives in the name of religion. It may be a religion I share, but it's not a religion I believe should be removing free will by creating laws against sins that are God's to punish. 

That's the top reasons. I reserve the right to have more opinions.


I was going to sponsor you for this post, but I see you're a Totalfarker already. What you wrote is almost exactly what I believe, and I give you big props for posting between the FarkLibTM hate machine comments.
 
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