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2012-09-02 01:13:32 PM
I don't care what anybody has to say when it starts with "Why I'm A...."

I don't care if it's Republican, or Democrat, or Christian, or atheist (please feel free to post your own definition of what this means! this should happen in every thread! at least 500 times!) or baseball fan or gay or straight or farking whatever.

But especially when it's "Why I'm a Republican," in this derptastic, up-is-down, cutting-taxes-lowers-debt, ignorance-is-strength, mission-accomplished, war-was-justified, job-creators-are-taxed-to-death, no-true-racists hall of mirrors world we live in.

I just don't care why anybody is anything, but I especially don't care why anybody is on board with the likes of Rmoney and Rayn and Dubya and Cheney and Rice and Rove and Lardbaugh and the whole steal-it-all-now crowd that farked everything up so completely last time.
 
2012-09-02 01:14:20 PM

hubiestubert: I was a Republican for many years, most of my time on Fark actually, up until the point that the party abandoned anything looking like Conservative thought--that is responsive tax policy, responsive spending policy, responsive domestic policy, and responsive foreign policy based on actual conditions, as opposed to the whims of a 12 year old who didn't want to share.

I still consider myself fairly Conservative. I still believe in the Constitution--which means church and state don't meld, that we deliver on free speech, the freedom of assembly, and that pesky equality under the law. I don't care what your churches want to do in their own confines, but I do draw the line against mandating that for the rest of the populace. Sadly, what passes for "Conservative" thought nowadays, only seems to like bits and pieces, and wants to take a pupu platter approach wherein the Second Amendment seems to trounce all the others, and the First is just an impediment, as is the Fifth and the 12th and the 14th.

The radicalism on the Right has soured me on the Party. And that is really what the RNC Convention highlighted, was the radicalism that the party has taken to heart. It is no longer the "Conservative" party, although it likes to style itself as such, to cloak the radicalism at its heart. "Social Conservatives" are anything but social in that they don't really like their neighbors all that much, and embrace a radical vision of the nation and law, while "Fiscal Conservatives" have taken "tax breaks" to their core, while abandoning anything like intelligent and considered spending policy.

That the party has abandoned Conservatism, for a rebranding of their radicalized agenda to be called as such is what turned me from her ranks. Intelligent and considered thought was what drew me to the party. Considered and intelligent like Snowe of Maine, like William Cohen whom she replaced. Like Margaret Chase Smith. And that saddens me a great deal, because careful and considered thought sho ...


Rino ;)
 
2012-09-02 01:14:33 PM

zappaisfrank: [www.politifake.org image 640x511]


Just for the record, everybody could see Hobbes. It's just that everyone but Calvin saw a stuffed tiger.
 
2012-09-02 01:15:41 PM

Cheesus: Or he went to college and didn't learn any critical thinking. I can't imagine what he spent his time doing instead though, judging from his classy sombrero. He's the kind of guy that hears "tax cuts" and doesn't bother to think what else that effects, or even if they apply to him.


He went to college. He was just that annoying shiat on your floor who just read Atlas Shrugged for the first time and needed to tell you about his revelation every time you hung out with him. He also never chipped in for beer or weed money, but drank and smoked more than anyone else.
 
2012-09-02 01:15:47 PM

skipjack: I'm conservative because that's the political ideology I agree with.


I'm impressed by the careful introspection that has led you to your current ideological position, and by the clarity with which you articulate the intellectual journey that brought you to this point. You're clearly a master of dialectic.
 
2012-09-02 01:16:55 PM
A lot of people deluding themselves in those explanations...
 
2012-09-02 01:19:01 PM

skipjack: I'm conservative because that's the political ideology I agree with.


No one asked why you were a conservative, they asked why you were a Republican. Big difference.

If you really are a conservative, then why the hell are you still a Republican.
 
2012-09-02 01:19:30 PM
Why I'm a Democrat

 
2012-09-02 01:20:50 PM

Mrtraveler01: skipjack: I'm conservative because that's the political ideology I agree with.

No one asked why you were a conservative, they asked why you were a Republican. Big difference.

If you really are a conservative, then why the hell are you still a Republican.


I asked him the same question, but he appears to have run off.
 
2012-09-02 01:21:19 PM
Why I'm a Democrat

i208.photobucket.com



ftfm
 
2012-09-02 01:22:58 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: [i49.tinypic.com image 639x440]

"I wasn't accepted to college."


Can someone please tell me, is there some significance to wearing a hat made from a Yuengling box?
 
2012-09-02 01:24:17 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Cheesus: Or he went to college and didn't learn any critical thinking. I can't imagine what he spent his time doing instead though, judging from his classy sombrero. He's the kind of guy that hears "tax cuts" and doesn't bother to think what else that effects, or even if they apply to him.

He went to college. He was just that annoying shiat on your floor who just read Atlas Shrugged for the first time and needed to tell you about his revelation every time you hung out with him. He also never chipped in for beer or weed money, but drank and smoked more than anyone else.


Hell, I'd be happy with a republican who actually read it. All the people I've heard spout off about how great Rand is don't have any farking idea what she was trying to say.
 
2012-09-02 01:24:20 PM
I'd like to see everyone have what I had, and the benefits we've had.

If you want people to have access to the same public services and educational system you enjoyed then why in holy fark would you vote republican. They have stated time and time again they would like to strip away those services and reduce the role of the government to a level not seen since the Victorian era.

WHAT THE fark IS WRONG WITH 45% to 50% OF YOUR POPULATION AMERICA. HOW CAN YOU PUT A PROBE ON MARS AND STILL BE THIS DUMB.
 
2012-09-02 01:26:30 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Cheesus: Or he went to college and didn't learn any critical thinking. I can't imagine what he spent his time doing instead though, judging from his classy sombrero. He's the kind of guy that hears "tax cuts" and doesn't bother to think what else that effects, or even if they apply to him.

He went to college. He was just that annoying shiat on your floor who just read Atlas Shrugged for the first time and needed to tell you about his revelation every time you hung out with him. He also never chipped in for beer or weed money, but drank and smoked more than anyone else.

Hell, I'd be happy with a republican who actually read it. All the people I've heard spout off about how great Rand is don't have any farking idea what she was trying to say.


Like Paul Ryan?
 
2012-09-02 01:27:35 PM
My parents taught me individual responsibility. You have to rely on yourself to get you anywhere. And I became a Republican because I truly believe that we are giving people the tools to build a successful life and really be a part of the American dream.

what tools have recent republicans given people to build a successful life and be part of the american dream?
 
2012-09-02 01:28:31 PM
LouDobbsAwaaaay

That smarmy dickbag doesn't know shiat. I know there are plenty of capable, mature, and experienced 23-year-olds, but I'll put money on this guy having minimal exposure to the real world.
 
2012-09-02 01:28:59 PM

Im_Gumby: poot_rootbeer: I question NPR's sampling methods.

6 of the 15 are women, and 2 of 15 are black. Does that sound representative of the GOP as a whole?

Sounds about right.


I'm pretty sure the GOP isn't 15% black
 
2012-09-02 01:29:08 PM

thomps: My parents taught me individual responsibility. You have to rely on yourself to get you anywhere. And I became a Republican because I truly believe that we are giving people the tools to build a successful life and really be a part of the American dream.

what tools have recent republicans given people to build a successful life and be part of the american dream?


Tax cuts clearly.
 
2012-09-02 01:29:20 PM
So has anyone in this thread yet actually provided actual reasons to be a modern Republican? I saw the one who said something like "I believe in conservative ideology" which is a total non-answer. Anyone going to defend the modern Republican Party?
 
2012-09-02 01:30:23 PM

Hobodeluxe: Im_Gumby: poot_rootbeer: I question NPR's sampling methods.

6 of the 15 are women, and 2 of 15 are black. Does that sound representative of the GOP as a whole?

Sounds about right.

I'm pretty sure the GOP isn't 15% black


Party of Jesus and prejudice against gays. I can believe it.
 
2012-09-02 01:30:37 PM
SuperTramp: Can someone please tell me, is there some significance to wearing a hat made from a Yuengling box?

because it's a Pennsylvania brewery and he's a PA delegate. Also, he's an attention whore.
 
2012-09-02 01:33:36 PM
I have a few sane, intelligent friends who still vote Republican and I'm baffled by it. They aren't rich, socially conservative or racist.

The only explanation I can come up with is that the GOP has done a masterful job of creating an illusory Republican party to challenge an imaginary Obama. In the echo chamber of Fox News (and to a lesser extent the mainstream press - in the interest of "fairness"), the Republicans are the conservative party of small government and small business, of personal responsibility and fiscal sanity. Democrats, by contrast, are the party led by a scary Black man that wants to take away your freedom, and turn the US into Sweden and your sons into queens. It's a bit harder to maintain the Republican illusion in the face of genuine GOP politicians - hence the reason "Generic Republican" frequently polls better than the actual candidate.

No amount of factual evidence to the contrary - such as demonstrating that Democrats have been better stewards of the economy over the last 40 or proving that Obama's politics are aligned with Eisenhower rather than Stalin - will change these people's minds, and I've given up trying.
 
2012-09-02 01:33:47 PM
SuperTramp: Can someone please tell me, is there some significance to wearing a hat made from a Yuengling box?

ultraholland because it's a Pennsylvania brewery and he's a PA delegate. Also, he's an attention whore.

thanks.
 
2012-09-02 01:35:41 PM

Cheesus: Hobodeluxe: Im_Gumby: poot_rootbeer: I question NPR's sampling methods.

6 of the 15 are women, and 2 of 15 are black. Does that sound representative of the GOP as a whole?

Sounds about right.

I'm pretty sure the GOP isn't 15% black

Party of Jesus and prejudice against gays. I can believe it.


you'd think they poll above 0% then wouldn't you?
 
2012-09-02 01:35:44 PM

thomps: My parents taught me individual responsibility. You have to rely on yourself to get you anywhere. And I became a Republican because I truly believe that we are giving people the tools to build a successful life and really be a part of the American dream.

what tools have recent republicans given people to build a successful life and be part of the american dream?


Well if you had watched the GOP primaries they gave us plenty of tools... for great comedy.
 
2012-09-02 01:37:25 PM
Mitt Romneys Tax Return

I have a few sane, intelligent friends who still vote Republican and I'm baffled by it. They aren't rich, socially conservative or racist.

The only explanation I can come up with is that the GOP has done a masterful job of creating an illusory Republican party to challenge an imaginary Obama. In the echo chamber of Fox News (and to a lesser extent the mainstream press - in the interest of "fairness"), the Republicans are the conservative party of small government and small business, of personal responsibility and fiscal sanity. Democrats, by contrast, are the party led by a scary Black man that wants to take away your freedom, and turn the US into Sweden and your sons into queens. It's a bit harder to maintain the Republican illusion in the face of genuine GOP politicians - hence the reason "Generic Republican" frequently polls better than the actual candidate.

No amount of factual evidence to the contrary - such as demonstrating that Democrats have been better stewards of the economy over the last 40 or proving that Obama's politics are aligned with Eisenhower rather than Stalin - will change these people's minds, and I've given up trying.


I sent this to a friend who votes R, and he actually got it, decided he's a Progressive, after all.

/no hard in trying
 
2012-09-02 01:37:59 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: hence the reason "Generic Republican" frequently polls better than the actual candidate.


Their 2016 nominee will be Clint Eastwood's empty chair and a footstool.
 
2012-09-02 01:38:24 PM
/harm

heh.
 
2012-09-02 01:42:22 PM
I'm a Republican because... (check one)

A. I'm rich, want to get richer, and don't give a shiat about anyone else.
B. I'm not rich, but I'm an idiot who votes for people who will make life worse for me and my family.
 
2012-09-02 01:43:57 PM

DeltaPunch: I'd rather my taxes went up so that every black person in America can use food stamps to buy steaks and Champagne, than to have one more penny of it go to the richest assholes that will move it offshore to avoid paying taxes.


I appreciate your hyperbole and agree with your sentiment. An economic variation on "it's better for 9 guilty men to be mistakenly declared innocent than for one 1 innocent man to be mistakenly declared guilty."
 
2012-09-02 01:44:24 PM
You throw enough money at the problem you can convince people to jump in a volcano. Look at Jim Jones, all he had was the power of belonging and he caused a massacre.
 
2012-09-02 01:47:29 PM

Vindibudd: MacEnvy:
Because I'm an asshole.

This is what Democrats call tolerance.


No, I'm pretty sure that's what they call intolerance. Much like opinions, not all people are tolerable. Being an asshole is a choice.
 
2012-09-02 01:47:44 PM

MayoSlather: Well if you had watched the GOP primaries they gave us plenty of tools... for great comedy.


i151.photobucket.com

Q&D
 
2012-09-02 01:52:58 PM
As opposed to:
"I am a Democrat 'cuz Obamah gives me free stuff."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe in Utopia on Earth where Iranians kiss Jews and trees and snail darters are more important than people."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe we have the right to kill babies."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz de President is ah BLACK man."

Seems the stocks of Kool-Aid have gone up dramatically.
 
2012-09-02 01:54:29 PM

tony41454: As opposed to:
"I am a Democrat 'cuz Obamah gives me free stuff."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe in Utopia on Earth where Iranians kiss Jews and trees and snail darters are more important than people."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe we have the right to kill babies."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz de President is ah BLACK man."

Seems the stocks of Kool-Aid have gone up dramatically.


i agree, and what's the deal with democrats always raising taxes on our strawmen!
 
2012-09-02 01:54:37 PM

tony41454: As opposed to:
"I am a Democrat 'cuz Obamah gives me free stuff."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe in Utopia on Earth where Iranians kiss Jews and trees and snail darters are more important than people."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe we have the right to kill babies."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz de President is ah BLACK man."

Seems the stocks of Kool-Aid have gone up dramatically.


-10/10 

A fart would've been more enlightening than this post.
 
2012-09-02 01:55:37 PM

tony41454: "I am a Democrat 'cuz de President is ah BLACK man."


I thought it was the other way around.
 
2012-09-02 01:56:12 PM

WorldCitizen: So has anyone in this thread yet actually provided actual reasons to be a modern Republican? I saw the one who said something like "I believe in conservative ideology" which is a total non-answer. Anyone going to defend the modern Republican Party?


I can think of reasons...single issue voters who believe abortion is evil and needs to be stopped. people who want a 'family values' candidate. People who (for whatever reason) think the GOP is a 'pro-business' party. we might not agree with their reasons, but to them it's valid enough to support Romney with their time, money and votes. personally I think the GOP is playing single issue voters off one another to forge an uneasy alliance that they hope will be strong enough to stand up to Obama. that's why the party doesn't have a coherent message - they can't be coherent without losing a significant portion of their voter base. it's a balancing act that they have to get just right or everything will explode around 'em.

Now if you want to discuss all the reasons why the GOP factionalism is going to kill them come November, that's perfectly fine with me. But you have to concede the point that to the rank and file GOP voters, their reasons for supporting the Republican party are good enough for them. ain't no law says you can't vote for a bunch of religious pro-business nutballs.
 
2012-09-02 01:56:38 PM

LarryDan43: LouDobbsAwaaaay: [i49.tinypic.com image 639x439]

"... So I vote for the party that explicitly shoots down tax cuts for small business owners, and picked a Presidential candidate who made his fortune gutting businesses, raping their assets, and leaving them to pick up the tab for loans he used to give himself bonuses. I'm an idiot."

"and I vote for a candidate who along with his rich friends sent their money to overseas banks where it could never be lent out by banks in the US as small business loans and lines of credit"


"and I vote for (and run for election in) a party that would just as soon pitch me into the fires of hell than recognize that I have the right to be married to the person I love" (link)
 
2012-09-02 01:57:33 PM

tony41454: "I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe we have the right to kill babies."


Republicans do that too.

Granted they're babies in foreign nations but still the same premise...
 
2012-09-02 01:59:24 PM
I can't think of a single good reason for self identifying as a Republican and/or voting GOP this election.

Not one.

/Meh, neither can Skipjack apparently.
 
2012-09-02 02:02:13 PM
why do Republican shills always use the same tactics?

article: 'here's a bunch of facts about Republicans liars and why they lie.'
GOP shill: 'but the DEMOCRATS!? liberals!? OMG SOCIALISMS!'
fark thread: 'um dude...we're discussing the Republicans. don't change the subject.'
GOP shill: 'well...you are all just a bunch of LIBERALS! and you...you...liberal all over the liberal place with your liberal liberals and your gay liberals in the liberals!'
fark thread: 'well ok then. thanks for posting'.


seriously. this happens all the damn time. it's a discussion about the lies of Republicans, or a discussion on Republican policies and sure enough - some idiot shows up and starts screaming about liberals or the democrats. I wouldn't think it was so difficult to stay focused on the discussion at hand. are our local GOP folks all ADHD or something?
 
2012-09-02 02:02:31 PM

valar_morghulis: Why I'm NOT a Republican:

-I believe in a homosexual's right to marriage/civil unions and to receive all the rights and benefits therein
-I believe in the social safety net
-I believe in responsible management of natural resources, not raped-earth glutinous frenzies as proposed by Romney-Ryan
-I believe in a woman's inalienable right to choice and birth control
-I believe in equal pay for equal work
-I'm against shooting wolves from airplanes for sport
-I'm against rabid deregulation
-I believe in Keynesian economics
-I'm not afraid of Shariah Law and nor do I believe it's a threat to American law
-I'm against racial profiling
-I have a sense of humor



Agree with your points (and more), but can't hold my tongue on this: the word you probably wanted to use is "gluttonous."

/ While I'm at it: less critical, but worth mentioning. Using some words as nouns (as "homosexual," above) can be subtly dehumanizing.
 
2012-09-02 02:03:14 PM
tony41454: "I am a Democrat 'cuz Obamah gives me free stuff."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe in Utopia on Earth where Iranians kiss Jews and trees and snail darters are more important than people."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe we have the right to kill babies."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz de President is ah BLACK man."


Welp, looks like you've got us all figured out.
 
2012-09-02 02:05:31 PM

ultraholland: tony41454: "I am a Democrat 'cuz Obamah gives me free stuff."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe in Utopia on Earth where Iranians kiss Jews and trees and snail darters are more important than people."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz I believe we have the right to kill babies."
"I am a Democrat 'cuz de President is ah BLACK man."

Welp, looks like you've got us all figured out.


speak for yourself, i hate black people but i can't fight the white guilt that has been ingrained into my very soul by years and years of liberal education.
 
2012-09-02 02:05:49 PM
I would hate to be a Republican.

But, I would love to do a Republican:

media.tumblr.com 

And I hate myself for it. 

/DoBeDoBeDo...
 
2012-09-02 02:09:16 PM
Most of those answers can be summed up thus:

"I'm a Republican because I've lived a privileged life, whether I realize it or not. I'm comfortable assuming that because I had the tools to be successful at my disposal, they must be just as accessible to everyone else, and people who aren't as successful as me just didn't try hard enough. I'm a Republican because I don't believe in the government controlling my life, but I believe in it controlling the lives of people who are not like me. I am Republican because I enjoy the advantage of being a white Christian, and I am a Republican because I want that to continue."
 
2012-09-02 02:13:02 PM

EnviroDude: Because democrats want to destroy the Republic.


Everything about you, right down to you handle, is a troll.
 
2012-09-02 02:17:29 PM

Weaver95: seriously. this happens all the damn time. it's a discussion about the lies of Republicans, or a discussion on Republican policies and sure enough - some idiot shows up and starts screaming about liberals or the democrats. I wouldn't think it was so difficult to stay focused on the discussion at hand. are our local GOP folks all ADHD or something?


See also: the Kansas City Shuffle, "Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain".
 
2012-09-02 02:18:42 PM

violetvolume: Most of those answers can be summed up thus:

"I'm a Republican because I've lived a privileged life, whether I realize it or not. I'm comfortable assuming that because I had the tools to be successful at my disposal, they must be just as accessible to everyone else, and people who aren't as successful as me just didn't try hard enough. I'm a Republican because I don't believe in the government controlling my life, but I believe in it controlling the lives of people who are not like me. I am Republican because I enjoy the advantage of being a white Christian, and I am a Republican because I want that to continue."


I'm so stealing that.
 
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