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(Washington Post)   Afghan army recruits will no longer be trained to kill Americans. Dick Cheney seen unloading his Halliburton stock, shooting his broker in the face   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 31
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2012-09-02 11:04:49 AM  
so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?
 
2012-09-02 11:19:11 AM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?

 
2012-09-02 11:25:43 AM  

johnny farker: tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


Ask the empty chair.
It seems to be the only public figure taking that question.
 
2012-09-02 11:28:51 AM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


Because goddamn Fartbongo got us into Afghanistan and only Romney has the balls to pull our troops back home.
 
2012-09-02 11:46:44 AM  

RogermcAllen: tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?

Because goddamn Fartbongo got us into Afghanistan and only Romney has the balls to pull our troops back home.


that folks at the RNC cheered that says things about America i don't want to hear.
 
2012-09-02 12:32:22 PM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


Same reason as Vietnam. We have got to contain the communists terrorists. We've got to build up the ARVN ANA so they can continue the fight against the NVA Taliban after we leave. Obviously this will work just as well as it did in the past.
 
2012-09-02 12:35:47 PM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


Short answer? Instead of finishing the war in Afghanistan, Bush diverted all our resources to starting a second war in Iraq in 2004. This left the Afghan conflict to fester and become an even bigger clusterfark than it was.

If we just up and leave (or if we'd just up and left when Obama took office) the government will collapse, anarchy will reign, and the warlords will again seize power.

Remember this is a country which had no legitimate government when we invaded in 2001.
 
2012-09-02 12:54:58 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Bush diverted all our resources to starting a second war in Iraq in 2004.


Early 2003, actually.
 
2012-09-02 01:03:57 PM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


Because no one could be heard over the cries of vengeance.
 
2012-09-02 01:08:41 PM  
We were giving them pretend guns but they kept yelling gun, gun ,gun at us. We wiped them out, but then they advanced and our guns no longer were affective. We couldn't tell why until they got closer and we heard them yelling tank, tank, tank.
 
2012-09-02 01:51:12 PM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


Because now probably isn't the best time to leave... what, with their new weapons and training and all.
 
2012-09-02 02:00:48 PM  
In a word? Drugs
 
2012-09-02 02:15:36 PM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


The plan is to be out in 2014.
 
2012-09-02 02:40:14 PM  
The move comes as NATO officials struggle to stem the tide of attacks on NATO forces by their Afghan colleagues. The attacks, which have killed 45 troops this year, have forced NATO officials to acknowledge a painful truth: Many of the incidents might have been prevented if existing security measures had been applied correctly.

But numerous military guidelines were not followed - by Afghans or Americans - because of concerns that they might slow the growth of the Afghan army and police, according to NATO officials.


So...it's better that they be able to kill us than not be able to kill Taliban.
 
2012-09-02 03:03:53 PM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


Because unlike the rest of the Government, the armed forces create jobs. And like the rest of the economy, there can't be jobs if there isn't any demand for their product.
 
2012-09-02 03:04:29 PM  
Of course, Cheney shoots his broker in the face no matter how well Halliburton stocks are doing.
 
2012-09-02 03:09:37 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?

Short answer? Instead of finishing the war in Afghanistan, Bush diverted all our resources to starting a second war in Iraq in 2004. This left the Afghan conflict to fester and become an even bigger clusterfark than it was.

If we just up and leave (or if we'd just up and left when Obama took office) the government will collapse, anarchy will reign, and the warlords will again seize power.

Remember this is a country which had no legitimate government when we invaded in 2001.


Too bad, after a decade, Karzai has no "Legitimate Government" in much of the country (esp. the east), and in many areas the populace prefers Taliban rule to Karzai's corrupt "rule"
 
2012-09-02 03:21:22 PM  
Ah yes.
Hearts and minds, hearts and minds.
 
2012-09-02 03:24:30 PM  

shiftyeyeddog: In a word? Drugs


Does anyone recall Tony Blair's speech urging the Brit's war? A major reason (or so he said) was that Afganistan was the world's largest opium producer. Do any of you recently deployed have pic's of this year's Northern crop? (I'm told it was simply lovely!)
/We never had a heroin problem in this rural county until a few years ago. (An AFB supplying CentCom is 20 mi. away.) Coincidence? ask a 'Nam Vet!
 
2012-09-02 03:27:02 PM  

Urine The Money: Ah yes.
Hearts and minds, hearts and minds.


Urine The Money: Ah yes.
Hearts and minds, hearts and minds.


"Hearts" have an extra hole, "Minds" are "pink mist". Now THAT's Winnin'!
 
2012-09-02 03:41:07 PM  

Donn C. Drummond in Disguise: shiftyeyeddog: In a word? Drugs

Does anyone recall Tony Blair's speech urging the Brit's war? A major reason (or so he said) was that Afganistan was the world's largest opium producer. Do any of you recently deployed have pic's of this year's Northern crop? (I'm told it was simply lovely!)
/We never had a heroin problem in this rural county until a few years ago. (An AFB supplying CentCom is 20 mi. away.) Coincidence? ask a 'Nam Vet!


Yes, sir. Been at it a long time.
 
2012-09-02 04:20:04 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?

Short answer? Instead of finishing the war in Afghanistan, Bush diverted all our resources to starting a second war in Iraq in 2004. This left the Afghan conflict to fester and become an even bigger clusterfark than it was.

If we just up and leave (or if we'd just up and left when Obama took office) the government will collapse, anarchy will reign, and the warlords will again seize power.

Remember this is a country which had no legitimate government when we invaded in 2001.


Ha. I'm rereading Barbara Tuchman's "The March of Folly". It's about stupid decisions--military and otherwise--that led to horrible consequences that could have been avoided. She devotes much time to Vietnam, where America had many options to withdraw and didn't, because it would have made us, essentially, "look bad," and diminished our prestige in the eyes of the world. And yes, somebody actually said that, McNamara, possibly.

We went to Afghanistan for quite legitimate reasons (much more so than Iraq); and yet we KNEW fighting a war there was a losing proposition, having seen what happened to the Soviets only 10 years earlier. That we thought we could do it better, or differently, isn't just hubris, it's stupidity.
 
2012-09-02 04:48:17 PM  
Um, who is it that keeps on saying, *We've got the time*?

Oh, yeah, it's those guys.
 
2012-09-02 05:14:40 PM  

tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?


Someone has to keep the drugs flowing. The CIA makes too much money on the side in the drug trade.
 
2012-09-02 05:16:04 PM  
Hate for someone who really has never done anything wrong and love for people who are trying to subvert the Constitution.

Gotta love fark....
 
2012-09-02 07:44:04 PM  
If the retribution for 9 / 11 kills more Americans than 9 / 11, you're doin' it very wrong.

/ Which military mental midgets thought it would be a good idea to bring the warring factions of Islam together, to train and arm them ?
 
2012-09-02 08:57:32 PM  
There's gold in them thar brown peoples!
 
2012-09-02 09:20:26 PM  

Thunderbox: If the retribution for 9 / 11 kills more Americans than 9 / 11, you're doin' it very wrong.

/ Which military mental midgets thought it would be a good idea to bring the warring factions of Islam together, to train and arm them ?


The ones who thought that helping the mujahideen out against the Soviets was a fantastic idea and what's "blowback" anyway?
 
2012-09-03 10:03:13 AM  
This is relevant to my interests because 1. I stayed at that generals house last weekend, and 2. My husband is about to deploy to train afghanis...
 
2012-09-03 09:43:51 PM  

Donn C. Drummond in Disguise: Dwight_Yeast: tlchwi02: so why the fark are we still camped out in the craphole again?

Short answer? Instead of finishing the war in Afghanistan, Bush diverted all our resources to starting a second war in Iraq in 2004. This left the Afghan conflict to fester and become an even bigger clusterfark than it was.

If we just up and leave (or if we'd just up and left when Obama took office) the government will collapse, anarchy will reign, and the warlords will again seize power.

Remember this is a country which had no legitimate government when we invaded in 2001.

Too bad, after a decade, Karzai has no "Legitimate Government" in much of the country (esp. the east), and in many areas the populace prefers Taliban rule to Karzai's corrupt "rule"


I oppose all war. If there was a way to keep Afghanistan from going French Revolution on Meth, I'd be all over supporting that policy. However, we are not even efficiently delaying the inevitable. We are just keeping our people in harms' way.

We need to bring our folks home and invest heavily in a Veterans' Job Corp.
 
2012-09-04 12:28:51 AM  

Donn C. Drummond in Disguise: shiftyeyeddog: In a word? Drugs

Does anyone recall Tony Blair's speech urging the Brit's war? A major reason (or so he said) was that Afganistan was the world's largest opium producer. Do any of you recently deployed have pic's of this year's Northern crop? (I'm told it was simply lovely!)
/We never had a heroin problem in this rural county until a few years ago. (An AFB supplying CentCom is 20 mi. away.) Coincidence? ask a 'Nam Vet!


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