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(NPR)   Copenhagen's new bike highways estimated to save the city $60 million/year in health care costs. I bet it'd be more if they didn't chew so much tobacco   (npr.org) divider line 176
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2012-09-01 11:20:01 PM  
I used to like riding bikes, but then I turned 10.
 
2012-09-01 11:23:54 PM  
First time I chewed Copenhagen was when I was a kid, painting houses in the summer. On my lunchbreak I picked up a can at the corner store and decided it would be a good idea to dip right before getting back to work on a 32' extension ladder.

Apparently, it is entirely possible to do that cool "slide down the ladder with hands and feet on the outside" trick and survive. Otherwise, there would be no inconvenienterection here.

/cool story bro
 
2012-09-01 11:24:34 PM  
Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.
 
2012-09-01 11:25:15 PM  
but you can't get to where you want to go. there is no shortcut. only longcut.
 
2012-09-01 11:25:22 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.


Bullshiat.
 
2012-09-01 11:26:06 PM  
This is a good trend. I like bikes, but I'm not a fan of bikes mixed in with motor vehicles, because they are generally disruptive to traffic even when the riders are being considerate, because cars have to maneuver around them. A nice network of good bike paths would be an awesome thing to see in every major cities. When I ride myself, I HATE being anywhere near a car and love when I can take a nice quiet bike path and not have to suck in car exhaust.
 
2012-09-01 11:26:32 PM  

xl5150: AverageAmericanGuy: Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.

Bullshiat.


Nope. I had to go to Harborview to get my elbow stitched up, and he got to steam over the ticket he got for reckless driving.
 
2012-09-01 11:27:30 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: xl5150: AverageAmericanGuy: Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.

Bullshiat.

Nope. I had to go to Harborview to get my elbow stitched up, and he got to steam over the ticket he got for reckless driving.


Bullshiat.
 
2012-09-01 11:27:35 PM  
In b4 Fark Fatties declare their superiority over riding rascal scooters and driving gas guzzlers instead of getting moderate exercise.
 
2012-09-01 11:28:00 PM  

xl5150: AverageAmericanGuy: xl5150: AverageAmericanGuy: Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.

Bullshiat.

Nope. I had to go to Harborview to get my elbow stitched up, and he got to steam over the ticket he got for reckless driving.

Bullshiat.


Whatever lets you sleep at night, dude.
 
2012-09-01 11:29:30 PM  

super_grass: In b4 Fark Fatties declare their superiority over riding rascal scooters and driving gas guzzlers instead of getting moderate exercise.


You sound cyclist.
 
2012-09-01 11:30:40 PM  

xl5150: I used to like riding bikes, but then I turned 10.


Is that when you got fat?
 
2012-09-01 11:31:20 PM  
t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-09-01 11:31:40 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-09-01 11:31:51 PM  
chew so much tobacco ??? That's in the UK and Sweden and lat I checked we gave sweden back because they invented the world fasted tank ( the Volvo ) or was something about Napoleons wars im not sure

anyhow the Sweden liberation movement stuffed under the EC membership, but they still want to move back to Denmark. they even have a flag but I guess to drunk to do anything about it all..

encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-09-01 11:32:22 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: AverageAmericanGuy: Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 340x255]


Not a badass. I'm just standing up for my rights.
 
2012-09-01 11:32:24 PM  

strathmeyer: xl5150: I used to like riding bikes, but then I turned 10.

Is that when you got fat?


I'd take being fat over being as skinny as my cancer treatment has made me any day.
 
2012-09-01 11:34:25 PM  
I love estimates, I estimate that the government is going to give me a 100000000% return on my taxes, doesn't mean they will.
 
2012-09-01 11:36:19 PM  
I used to like riding bikes, then I died.
 
2012-09-01 11:37:52 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: xl5150: AverageAmericanGuy: Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.

Bullshiat.

Nope. I had to go to Harborview to get my elbow stitched up, and he got to steam over the ticket he got for reckless driving.


He gets a ticket and you aren't arrested for breaking his window?

Bullshiat.
 
2012-09-01 11:38:35 PM  
This is what our fatass nation needs too - bicycle highways. fark the fatties - I'll vote for whichever presidential candidate delivers me real non-road warrior-esque bicycle highways... anddddd go!
 
2012-09-01 11:39:42 PM  
I just loves the way these copenhagens talks.
payload52.cargocollective.com
 
2012-09-01 11:40:43 PM  

super_grass: In b4 Fark Fatties declare their superiority over riding rascal scooters and driving gas guzzlers instead of getting moderate exercise.


troll on, Spandex Lad.
 
2012-09-01 11:42:23 PM  

KrispyKritter: super_grass: In b4 Fark Fatties declare their superiority over riding rascal scooters and driving gas guzzlers instead of getting moderate exercise.

troll on, Spandex Lad.


Say what you will. Spandex feels great and the padded crotch is definitely a must-have for anyone serious about riding.
 
2012-09-01 11:42:25 PM  

IsNoGood: chew so much tobacco ???


There's a popular "moist snuff" tobacco named Copenhagen.
 
2012-09-01 11:44:14 PM  

Mad_Radhu: This is a good trend. I like bikes, but I'm not a fan of bikes mixed in with motor vehicles, because they are generally disruptive to traffic even when the riders are being considerate, because cars have to maneuver around them. A nice network of good bike paths would be an awesome thing to see in every major cities. When I ride myself, I HATE being anywhere near a car and love when I can take a nice quiet bike path and not have to suck in car exhaust.


Bike paths, at least as they are implemented here in the U.S., are terrible. Pedestrians with baby strollers, walking several abreast, letting their dog go to the other side of the path, with the leash stretched across the path, etc, etc, etc,. Trying to approach twenty MPH, much less anything faster than that, is enough to endanger your life. And they get mad at you! In Tucson, the paths are (or were back in the early 90's) clearly marked that pedestrians were supposed to stay off to the edge. It made no difference. I had a few close calls, got hoarse from shouting warnings, and gave up and went back on the roads. I suppose if you ride eight to ten MPH, it probably isn't a problem. No, what we need are bike lanes, a dedicated portion of the existing roadway, not bike paths.
 
2012-09-01 11:45:05 PM  

Lsherm: He gets a ticket and you aren't arrested for breaking his window?

Bullshiat.

 

I'm having a hard time seeing it as well. He could always claim the bike lock was in his hand, and he accidentally broke the window when he put his hand out to avoid his body colliding with the vehicle, but I don't see a cop buying it.
 
2012-09-01 11:46:49 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: KrispyKritter: super_grass: In b4 Fark Fatties declare their superiority over riding rascal scooters and driving gas guzzlers instead of getting moderate exercise.

troll on, Spandex Lad.

Say what you will. Spandex feels great and the padded crotch is definitely a must-have for anyone serious about riding.


I am sure a moo-moo feels awesome, but at some point one should realize there is a clothing line that should not be crossed.

/yes, that line is spandex biker short
//also, the Jorts line should not be crossed
 
2012-09-01 11:47:41 PM  

Repo Man: Mad_Radhu: This is a good trend. I like bikes, but I'm not a fan of bikes mixed in with motor vehicles, because they are generally disruptive to traffic even when the riders are being considerate, because cars have to maneuver around them. A nice network of good bike paths would be an awesome thing to see in every major cities. When I ride myself, I HATE being anywhere near a car and love when I can take a nice quiet bike path and not have to suck in car exhaust.

Bike paths, at least as they are implemented here in the U.S., are terrible. Pedestrians with baby strollers, walking several abreast, letting their dog go to the other side of the path, with the leash stretched across the path, etc, etc, etc,. Trying to approach twenty MPH, much less anything faster than that, is enough to endanger your life. And they get mad at you! In Tucson, the paths are (or were back in the early 90's) clearly marked that pedestrians were supposed to stay off to the edge. It made no difference. I had a few close calls, got hoarse from shouting warnings, and gave up and went back on the roads. I suppose if you ride eight to ten MPH, it probably isn't a problem. No, what we need are bike lanes, a dedicated portion of the existing roadway, not bike paths.


What we NEED is better driver education so that everyone understands that we have as much right to the roadway as anyone in a motorized gas guzzler. The hubris of drivers these days is appalling. Asking for bike lanes is asking to be second class citizens, and I for one will not accept that. If you don't like being behind me, wait until it's safe to pass.

That's the law. Sorry it's so hard for you to live within the law, drivers.

/not sorry
 
2012-09-01 11:47:46 PM  
Personally, I prefer Copenhagen's Long Cut variety, but will occasionally buy the Southern Blend or snuff.

In the fall, when Copenhagen Black comes out, I buy shiatloads of it because, well, its the best dip EVER.


Huh? Oh...you mean THAT Copenhagen. Nevermind.
 
2012-09-01 11:48:12 PM  

Repo Man: Mad_Radhu: This is a good trend. I like bikes, but I'm not a fan of bikes mixed in with motor vehicles, because they are generally disruptive to traffic even when the riders are being considerate, because cars have to maneuver around them. A nice network of good bike paths would be an awesome thing to see in every major cities. When I ride myself, I HATE being anywhere near a car and love when I can take a nice quiet bike path and not have to suck in car exhaust.

Bike paths, at least as they are implemented here in the U.S., are terrible. Pedestrians with baby strollers, walking several abreast, letting their dog go to the other side of the path, with the leash stretched across the path, etc, etc, etc,. Trying to approach twenty MPH, much less anything faster than that, is enough to endanger your life. And they get mad at you! In Tucson, the paths are (or were back in the early 90's) clearly marked that pedestrians were supposed to stay off to the edge. It made no difference. I had a few close calls, got hoarse from shouting warnings, and gave up and went back on the roads. I suppose if you ride eight to ten MPH, it probably isn't a problem. No, what we need are bike lanes, a dedicated portion of the existing roadway, not bike paths.


that word, I do not think it means what you think it means...
 
2012-09-01 11:51:39 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Repo Man: Mad_Radhu: This is a good trend. I like bikes, but I'm not a fan of bikes mixed in with motor vehicles, because they are generally disruptive to traffic even when the riders are being considerate, because cars have to maneuver around them. A nice network of good bike paths would be an awesome thing to see in every major cities. When I ride myself, I HATE being anywhere near a car and love when I can take a nice quiet bike path and not have to suck in car exhaust.

Bike paths, at least as they are implemented here in the U.S., are terrible. Pedestrians with baby strollers, walking several abreast, letting their dog go to the other side of the path, with the leash stretched across the path, etc, etc, etc,. Trying to approach twenty MPH, much less anything faster than that, is enough to endanger your life. And they get mad at you! In Tucson, the paths are (or were back in the early 90's) clearly marked that pedestrians were supposed to stay off to the edge. It made no difference. I had a few close calls, got hoarse from shouting warnings, and gave up and went back on the roads. I suppose if you ride eight to ten MPH, it probably isn't a problem. No, what we need are bike lanes, a dedicated portion of the existing roadway, not bike paths.

What we NEED is better driver education so that everyone understands that we have as much right to the roadway as anyone in a motorized gas guzzler. The hubris of drivers these days is appalling. Asking for bike lanes is asking to be second class citizens, and I for one will not accept that. If you don't like being behind me, wait until it's safe to pass.

That's the law. Sorry it's so hard for you to live within the law, drivers.

/not sorry


Now you're just being an entitled idiot. "Second class citizens?" Grow up. I've ridden in urban areas with lots of traffic, and I've ridden in a city with lots of bike paths and lanes. There's just no comparison - it's a lot safer and smoother for everyone if you have a dedicated lane for vehicles travelling at bike speeds and another lane for vehicles travelling at, you know, car speeds. You can have a much smoother ride if you know you're not going to be dodging taxis making a right turn in front of you, and you know you're not going to get doored by a soccer mom.
 
2012-09-01 11:54:23 PM  

Harmania: What we NEED is better driver education so that everyone understands that we have as much right to the roadway as anyone in a motorized gas guzzler. The hubris of drivers these days is appalling. Asking for bike lanes is asking to be second class citizens, and I for one will not accept that. If you don't like being behind me, wait until it's safe to pass.

That's the law. Sorry it's so hard for you to live within the law, drivers.

/not sorry

Now you're just being an entitled idiot. "Second class citizens?" Grow up. I've ridden in urban areas with lots of traffic, and I've ridden in a city with lots of bike paths and lanes. There's just no comparison - it's a lot safer and smoother for everyone if you have a dedicated lane for vehicles travelling at bike speeds and another lane for vehicles travelling at, you know, car speeds. You can have a much smoother ride if you know you're not going to be dodging taxis making a right turn in front of you, and you know you're not going to get doored by a soccer mom.


I suppose blacks shouldn't have protested white's only water fountains. They had their own, and gosh golly, everything was just so smooth when the colored and the whites didn't drink from the same fountains.

Yeah, maybe I do feel entitled. It's because I am, under the law.
 
2012-09-01 11:55:23 PM  
I'm amazed by the picture in that story. The bike riders seem to be keeping to the right. For some reason, the people who use the bike paths around here insist on riding any which way they want......left, right, middle, figure eights....they seem to believe they are the only ones using the path and can do as they please.
 
2012-09-01 11:56:29 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: What we NEED is better driver education so that everyone understands that we have as much right to the roadway as anyone in a motorized gas guzzler. The hubris of drivers these days is appalling. Asking for bike lanes is asking to be second class citizens, and I for one will not accept that. If you don't like being behind me, wait until it's safe to pass.


Depending on the road, there can be a pretty big difference in speed and acceleration between bike and motorized vehicles. Someone going too slow for the flow of traffic is just as much of a safety hazard as someone going too fast, at the very least there needs to be at least a bike lane or a a bike path. The problem is when you see ones that are not well maintained, like a lot of cities that have a bunch of crap in the lanes, or you see cars intruding into the lane.
 
2012-09-01 11:56:49 PM  
Fantastic Cigarettes...Long in the Leaf & Short in the Can.
 
2012-09-01 11:56:52 PM  

xl5150: AverageAmericanGuy: Some dumbfark pulled right up against me today when I was riding through Bellevue and clipped my elbow.

He didn't seem to appreciate my bike lock going through his passenger side window.

Bullshiat.


I know where's the fark thread if this were true :)
 
2012-09-01 11:59:19 PM  

super_grass: In b4 Fark Fatties declare their superiority over riding rascal scooters and driving gas guzzlers instead of getting moderate exercise.


I actually walk and take public transportation to work. And I can't stand bikers. Maybe when the assholes get off the sidewalks and into the bike lanes a few feet away, or stop for red lights, or use a farking light at night (I'm sure they could power it using their smugness as an energy source) I would feel differently about them. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.
 
2012-09-01 11:59:51 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Harmania: What we NEED is better driver education so that everyone understands that we have as much right to the roadway as anyone in a motorized gas guzzler. The hubris of drivers these days is appalling. Asking for bike lanes is asking to be second class citizens, and I for one will not accept that. If you don't like being behind me, wait until it's safe to pass.

That's the law. Sorry it's so hard for you to live within the law, drivers.

/not sorry

Now you're just being an entitled idiot. "Second class citizens?" Grow up. I've ridden in urban areas with lots of traffic, and I've ridden in a city with lots of bike paths and lanes. There's just no comparison - it's a lot safer and smoother for everyone if you have a dedicated lane for vehicles travelling at bike speeds and another lane for vehicles travelling at, you know, car speeds. You can have a much smoother ride if you know you're not going to be dodging taxis making a right turn in front of you, and you know you're not going to get doored by a soccer mom.

I suppose blacks shouldn't have protested white's only water fountains. They had their own, and gosh golly, everything was just so smooth when the colored and the whites didn't drink from the same fountains.

Yeah, maybe I do feel entitled. It's because I am, under the law.


I feel so oppressed having to walk on the sidewalk. I'd so much rather walk in the middle of the freeway
 
2012-09-02 12:00:53 AM  

Fissile: I'm amazed by the picture in that story. The bike riders seem to be keeping to the right. For some reason, the people who use the bike paths around here insist on riding any which way they want......left, right, middle, figure eights....they seem to believe they are the only ones using the path and can do as they please.


Lack of education, maybe?
 
2012-09-02 12:01:55 AM  
Hmm, is it because people are healthier, because people aren't getting run over, or because they think the reduction in auto emissions have helped reduce respiratory issues?

RTFA: They're making up numbers.

I'll make one from what they give us. Gasoline at $5.93 a gallon (CNN/Money), 750k miles biked a day, figure 35MPG for a car... That's about $120k per day, $38 million a year (figuring 300 days of that level of usage). Plus the cost of maintenance and ownership, the citizens probably are directly saving $60 million a year in transport costs.

Of course, those savings are more than made up for in the cost of maintaining their nanny state. Which they actually pay for up front.
 
2012-09-02 12:02:03 AM  
I used to like riding my bike around Mizzou.

Then I saw two cyclists get hit in as many years at one intersection.

No thanks.
 
2012-09-02 12:02:40 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Fissile: I'm amazed by the picture in that story. The bike riders seem to be keeping to the right. For some reason, the people who use the bike paths around here insist on riding any which way they want......left, right, middle, figure eights....they seem to believe they are the only ones using the path and can do as they please.

Lack of education, maybe?


Yep. It cuts both ways. There are a lot of dumbfark riders out there.

But there are many more dumbfark drivers, and their capacity to kill in their air-conditioned death boxes is completely unmatched when compared to cyclists.
 
2012-09-02 12:03:17 AM  
I'm completely OK with this as a matter of taxpayer funding in the United States, as long as I can mount one of these on my car, and drive through Critical Mass events with it when they decide to be assholes.

www.ibiblio.org
 
2012-09-02 12:03:27 AM  

cmb53208: super_grass: In b4 Fark Fatties declare their superiority over riding rascal scooters and driving gas guzzlers instead of getting moderate exercise.

I actually walk and take public transportation to work. And I can't stand bikers. Maybe when the assholes get off the sidewalks and into the bike lanes a few feet away, or stop for red lights, or use a farking light at night (I'm sure they could power it using their smugness as an energy source) I would feel differently about them. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.


When I was cycling a lot people used to pull up next to me and either honk or yell get on the sidewalk, it's education that's needed for everyone.
 
2012-09-02 12:04:15 AM  

BronyMedic: I'm completely OK with this as a matter of taxpayer funding in the United States, as long as I can mount one of these on my car, and drive through Critical Mass events with it when they decide to be assholes.

[www.ibiblio.org image 640x471]


As long as they aren't impeding your ambulance, why do you hate us for exercising our rights?
 
2012-09-02 12:05:30 AM  

IsNoGood: chew so much tobacco ??? That's in the UK and Sweden and lat I checked we gave sweden back because they invented the world fasted tank ( the Volvo ) or was something about Napoleons wars im not sure

anyhow the Sweden liberation movement stuffed under the EC membership, but they still want to move back to Denmark. they even have a flag but I guess to drunk to do anything about it all..

[encrypted-tbn3.google.com image 200x165]


The headline is referring to Copenhagen chewing tobacco (aka smokeless tobacco).

plugtobacco.com
 
2012-09-02 12:06:08 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: tinfoil-hat maggie: Fissile: I'm amazed by the picture in that story. The bike riders seem to be keeping to the right. For some reason, the people who use the bike paths around here insist on riding any which way they want......left, right, middle, figure eights....they seem to believe they are the only ones using the path and can do as they please.

Lack of education, maybe?

Yep. It cuts both ways. There are a lot of dumbfark riders out there.

But there are many more dumbfark drivers, and their capacity to kill in their air-conditioned death boxes is completely unmatched when compared to cyclists.


I agree most pedestrians don't even know what side of the rode there supposed to walk on when there is no sidewalk, and it gets worse from there.
 
2012-09-02 12:07:15 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy:

What we NEED is better driver education so that everyone understands that we have as much right to the roadway as anyone in a motorized gas guzzler. The hubris of drivers these days is appalling. Asking for bike lanes is asking to be second class citizens, and I for one will not accept that. If you don't like being behind me, wait until it's safe to pass.

That's the law. Sorry it's so hard for you to live within the law, drivers.

/not sorry


Actually what we need is better biker education, that is teach you assholes that red lights mean STOP, that sidewalks are for PEDESTRIANS, and that lights need to be used at night so that people can see your smug asses. Should this "education" also inform you that stop signs also mean that you STOP, or at least slow down enough to see if oncoming traffic won't cream your sorry ass. Or hit any pedestrians.

You are a perfect illustration why people think bikers are entitled douchebags: it's because they are douchebags
 
2012-09-02 12:07:41 AM  

wildcardjack: I'll make one from what they give us. Gasoline at $5.93 a gallon (CNN/Money), 750k miles biked a day, figure 35MPG for a car... That's about $120k per day, $38 million a year (figuring 300 days of that level of usage). Plus the cost of maintenance and ownership, the citizens probably are directly saving $60 million a year in transport costs.


CORRECTION: Gas is about $8 per gallon in Denmark. That's about $48 million a year in fuel savings.
 
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