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(The Realm Cast)   "Final Fantasy 25th Anniversary Ultimate Box Set" coming out in December. Details about box set to the left. Arguments about which game is the best to the right   (therealmcast.com) divider line 148
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2012-09-01 05:14:32 PM  
I'm going to bypass the ff# is better argument and just state that including psp discs in the set is pants on head retarded.
 
2012-09-01 06:04:17 PM  
Want.
 
2012-09-01 06:57:57 PM  
Only one game on each disc for the first 6. You could certainly fit FFI and FFII onto one disc - they have in the past, and with bonus material not available in the NES/Famicom original. A single PS1 disc with FFI through IV is certainly doable if there's no bonus dungeons, and it might not be out of the question to shoehorn FFV and FFVI onto the 650MB package as well; instead, they go with putting only one on each PS1 disc, except FFIII which requires a PSP (it would not work on a PSP Go, but most of the 7 or 8 people who purchased one did so for the express purpose of adding to their museum collections where it would be placed on a plinth alongside a Virtual Boy, an Atari Jaguar CD and a Wonder Swan).

7, 8 and 9 as multi-disc releases is not quite as absurd, since that's how they were released originally back in the 90s; however, there's no reason they could not have been put onto a single PS3 disc or even one double-layered PS2 disc instead of 4 PS1 discs each. Likewise, 10, 11 and 12 could have been put onto one PS3 disc instead of three PS2 discs (which most PS3 systems are unable to use, anyway).

Due to the nature of Blu-Ray technology, the first 12 Final Fantasy games could have easily been put onto a single PS3 disc -- even if the first 6 got bonus dungeons and 7-9 got remade in HD.

While 13 has its faults, requiring its own PS3 disc is not one of them.

The bonus material is not bad (anniversary video, 2-disc music collection, etc).

This box set looks good, but it's certainly not 50,000 yen (about US$450) good.

/and it's only available in Japan
 
2012-09-01 07:00:48 PM  
Played the original, x and the psp version

The only way I'd play any of them now is the original on my nes
 
2012-09-01 08:26:05 PM  
I read that as "sex bot."
 
2012-09-01 08:53:38 PM  

Dr. Goldshnoz: I'm going to bypass the ff# is better argument and just state that including psp discs in the set is pants on head retarded.


Why?

It's super popular in Tokyo thanks to Monster Hunter.
 
2012-09-01 09:18:49 PM  
I just want another Tactics..
 
2012-09-01 09:34:03 PM  
FFX, yes. I said that.
 
2012-09-01 09:35:35 PM  
So, to play this I need a psp, ps2, & ps3. Yeah. It'll sell like hoecakes.
 
2012-09-01 09:40:58 PM  
FFXI is still my favorite, but I'm not going to buy a legacy console for it.
 
2012-09-01 09:42:41 PM  
However you may need 3 to 4 different consoles to play this boxed set on as the games are not being reformatted for nextgen consoles.

Since they already released most of the SNES ones for PS1, why would I bother getting this? It'd be cool for those of us who don't have backwards compatible PS3s to be able to play the pre-PS3 versions without having to break out the PS2.
 
2012-09-01 09:46:52 PM  

stuhayes2010: FFX, yes. I said that.


Best battle system, but poor characters and job system.
 
2012-09-01 09:48:07 PM  
Best 3 (best first): 6, 4, 9
Worst 3 (worst first): 13, 7, 12

Honorable Mention: X-2. A diamond covered in poop. An incredibly fun, intricate combat system, possibly the best of the series over all, and certainly the best job system. Everything about it is gold, from the level of customization to the incredibly fast pacing. The partially hidden Shuyin and Lenne storyline isn't bad either. Visuals are pretty stunning as well. The J-pop wrapper sucks though, and contaminates most of the game.

/yeah, I said it
 
2012-09-01 09:48:35 PM  
Also, it's monumentally stupid to be putting games out on PS1 discs. How many PS1s are still working? 7-9 are available for download on PSN already. Wouldn't be hard to just do digital formats for the rest in one bundle. Even 10, as demonstrated by the other PS2 games on the PSN store already.
 
2012-09-01 09:50:05 PM  

wraith95: Best 3 (best first): 6, 4, 9
Worst 3 (worst first): 13, 7, 12

Honorable Mention: X-2. A diamond covered in poop. An incredibly fun, intricate combat system, possibly the best of the series over all, and certainly the best job system. Everything about it is gold, from the level of customization to the incredibly fast pacing. The partially hidden Shuyin and Lenne storyline isn't bad either. Visuals are pretty stunning as well. The J-pop wrapper sucks though, and contaminates most of the game.

/yeah, I said it


You just summed up Spoony's review of X-2 in a few sentences. He also tore 8 and 10 a new one, and is gearing up for 13
 
2012-09-01 09:54:11 PM  
I just like playing them. Only ones I didn't really like were the online ones. FF9 is for some reason a personal fav
 
2012-09-01 09:55:32 PM  
XI was the best.
The only thing that makes a crappy game series great is being able to share it with friends.
 
2012-09-01 09:58:31 PM  
I liked VIII. There, I said it.
 
2012-09-01 09:58:53 PM  

Klivian: You just summed up Spoony's review of X-2 in a few sentences. He also tore 8 and 10 a new one, and is gearing up for 13


I actually enjoyed both 8 and 10, although they had their flaws. 13 remains the only FF I haven't finished. Absolutely terrible combat, and really nothing else to recommend it either.
 
2012-09-01 09:59:41 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-01 10:02:03 PM  

Klivian: How many PS1s are still working?


Japan is different from the US. I can buy a PS1 from just about any used video game shop because they never throw any of that shiat away. If I wanted, I could still get a WonderSwan and a dozen games. Not to mention all the Otaku who still own working consoles (y'know, the people who would consider buying this anniversary set for $500)

Just because you're into throwing out good electronics because Madison Avenue tells you to doesn't mean other people or cultures share your feelings.
 
2012-09-01 10:05:38 PM  

doglover: Klivian: How many PS1s are still working?

Japan is different from the US. I can buy a PS1 from just about any used video game shop because they never throw any of that shiat away. If I wanted, I could still get a WonderSwan and a dozen games. Not to mention all the Otaku who still own working consoles (y'know, the people who would consider buying this anniversary set for $500)

Just because you're into throwing out good electronics because Madison Avenue tells you to doesn't mean other people or cultures share your feelings.


Highlighted the flaw in your thinking there. I only picked up a PS3 when my PS2 died.
 
2012-09-01 10:05:58 PM  

doglover: Klivian: How many PS1s are still working?

Japan is different from the US. I can buy a PS1 from just about any used video game shop because they never throw any of that shiat away. If I wanted, I could still get a WonderSwan and a dozen games. Not to mention all the Otaku who still own working consoles (y'know, the people who would consider buying this anniversary set for $500)

Just because you're into throwing out good electronics because Madison Avenue tells you to doesn't mean other people or cultures share your feelings.


what? madison avenue tells you to? people get rid of old systems because they *stop making games* for them. also the desire for new technology.
 
2012-09-01 10:11:12 PM  
We need more brooding protagonists with awkwardly placed belts on them. Can't have enough of those.

i687.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-01 10:15:40 PM  

Gergesa: We need more brooding protagonists with awkwardly placed belts on them. Can't have enough of those.

[i687.photobucket.com image 400x449]


FF character design always struck me as "Anime meets Rob Liefeld."
 
2012-09-01 10:17:16 PM  

doglover: Klivian: How many PS1s are still working?

Japan is different from the US. I can buy a PS1 from just about any used video game shop because they never throw any of that shiat away. If I wanted, I could still get a WonderSwan and a dozen games. Not to mention all the Otaku who still own working consoles (y'know, the people who would consider buying this anniversary set for $500)

Just because you're into throwing out good electronics because Madison Avenue tells you to doesn't mean other people or cultures share your feelings.


Heh. My wife has a WonderSwan Color and I've got a Crystal, both bought used at Hard Off. She's got a few of the FF games for it too; I went with Super Robot Wars on mine.
 
2012-09-01 10:20:50 PM  
This submitter are sick.
 
2012-09-01 10:22:17 PM  

doglover: Klivian: How many PS1s are still working?

Japan is different from the US. I can buy a PS1 from just about any used video game shop because they never throw any of that shiat away. If I wanted, I could still get a WonderSwan and a dozen games. Not to mention all the Otaku who still own working consoles (y'know, the people who would consider buying this anniversary set for $500)

Just because you're into throwing out good electronics because Madison Avenue tells you to doesn't mean other people or cultures share your feelings.


I still have my PS1 and it works, ya really.
 
2012-09-01 10:23:42 PM  
Favorites are 4, 6, 9, and 10, not in order. If pressed, I'd say 9 is probably my personal favorite. Also enjoyed After Years and Tactics, and (as mentioned above) enjoyed the battle system of 10-2 but didn't care for the overall style.

Couldn't really get into 5 or 8, and while I liked 7 I don't think it's held up all that well. I get the hate for 13, but I actually rather enjoyed it.
 
2012-09-01 10:30:10 PM  

flamingboar: I just want another Tactics..


This.

And for sheer memorability, I'd have to go with FFVI.
 
2012-09-01 10:30:30 PM  
Here's a test if a FF game is good: Did Amano do the character design? If so, then yes.
 
2012-09-01 10:36:30 PM  
images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-01 10:36:30 PM  
I used to like this series, but I haven't played it since FF X. After being frustrated with that game, the next RPG I bought was Morrowind, and I haven't looked at a JRPG since.

Grinding for experience points in between awkward cutscenes was fine in the 90s, but nothing out of Japan comes close to what companies like Bethesda and BioWare are releasing.
 
2012-09-01 10:36:58 PM  

wraith95: Best 3 (best first): 6, 4, 9
Worst 3 (worst first): 13, 7, 12

Honorable Mention: X-2. A diamond covered in poop. An incredibly fun, intricate combat system, possibly the best of the series over all, and certainly the best job system. Everything about it is gold, from the level of customization to the incredibly fast pacing. The partially hidden Shuyin and Lenne storyline isn't bad either. Visuals are pretty stunning as well. The J-pop wrapper sucks though, and contaminates most of the game.

/yeah, I said it


Nine as your pick of the playstation games? Wtf is wrong with you.
 
2012-09-01 10:39:30 PM  
Um......You can play PS1 games on a PS3 (and a PS2).

In fact, you can put a PS1 disc into the PS3, and play the game one a PSP over an internet connection. Laggy as hell, but if you really, really want to play Ehrgeiz at work, well, you can.
 
2012-09-01 10:40:35 PM  
As much I'd also praise FF6 as a leader in the series, I have to admit a lot of it is probably nostalgia. From what I remember, it was a pretty simple game, but I guess they did a good job of giving each character a real story arc through both worlds. And don't try to explain Gogo. He has no story. That's his only purpose.

That said, Tactics goes well beyond FF6, and tells a better story in a better way to boot. The PSP remake actually cut it down a little, because half the charm of Tactics was the almost 'theatrical' (as in, acting stage, not modern movie theatrics) feel of the cutscenes, where they were acted out in the combat engine by the same sprites used in combat. They did a very good job of making the sprites expressive, animated, and the sound effects did well to help express the actions, despite being stylized.

Too bad they had to go and spoil everything by setting more games in Ivalice.
 
2012-09-01 10:42:30 PM  
Glad to see 9 getting some love. It's definitely my favorite. Also thought 10 was good.

/stop liking what I don't like
 
2012-09-01 10:44:31 PM  

wiredtolain: [images.wikia.com image 640x389]


How the frak did I forget about that? I don't even know how many dozens of hours I played the card game. Possibly more than the game itself.
 
2012-09-01 10:45:00 PM  

Klivian: stuhayes2010: FFX, yes. I said that.

Best battle system, but poor characters and job system.


I didnt mind the job system. i think i would have if i hadnt cheated with walkthroughs to avoid missing the early keys.
 
2012-09-01 10:46:00 PM  
I've enjoyed all FF but:

The Originals for the Game Boys (Legends 1-2-3 and Adventure) have been the only ones that I played many times over.

It's one thing to have an involved story, another to have a game that drags for months... until your memory card flakes and you lose your game save.

Never finished a few games due to this happening and just not having the time to redo 50-75% of a game that took me weeks to get anywhere.
 
2012-09-01 10:49:33 PM  
The best: 6. Say anything else and my response is as follows:

Link
 
2012-09-01 10:59:13 PM  
6 is my favorite. Haven't played anything after X.
 
2012-09-01 11:00:00 PM  
Is 13 that bad..It took five years to make..you think it would be somewhat decent..
 
2012-09-01 11:02:15 PM  

Greenbeanx: Is 13 that bad..It took five years to make..you think it would be somewhat decent..


By that logic, Duke Nukem: Forever should have been the greatest game ever
 
2012-09-01 11:03:34 PM  
FF 1 is still the best. I'm glad they stopped at VI and didn't cave in and make crappy 3D games. The dual trilogy is almost perfect except for the cluster-you-know-what that is FF II.
 
2012-09-01 11:05:06 PM  

Devoid: wiredtolain: [images.wikia.com image 640x389]

How the frak did I forget about that? I don't even know how many dozens of hours I played the card game. Possibly more than the game itself.


Some-one went and made a port of triple triad as an app for the android(probably the iphone too) I've been wasting a lot of hours on it at work.
 
2012-09-01 11:05:28 PM  
www.nwiizone.com

^what I'm looking forward to the most

Seriously, what is it with seeing some number like 20 or 25 and deciding "ZOMG! Let's re-re-re-release a bunch of games!!!"? I can kind of understand 25, being a quarter of a century, but 20 seems screwy. Not that I'm complaining mind you, when I first saw the Kirby Anniversary commercial I was extremely happy.
 
2012-09-01 11:11:46 PM  

wraith95: Best 3 (best first): 6, 4, 9
Worst 3 (worst first): 13, 7, 12

Honorable Mention: X-2. A diamond covered in poop. An incredibly fun, intricate combat system, possibly the best of the series over all, and certainly the best job system. Everything about it is gold, from the level of customization to the incredibly fast pacing. The partially hidden Shuyin and Lenne storyline isn't bad either. Visuals are pretty stunning as well. The J-pop wrapper sucks though, and contaminates most of the game.

/yeah, I said it


100% agree with this post.
 
2012-09-01 11:11:49 PM  

imfallen_angel: I've enjoyed all FF but:

The Originals for the Game Boys (Legends 1-2-3 and Adventure) have been the only ones that I played many times over.

It's one thing to have an involved story, another to have a game that drags for months... until your memory card flakes and you lose your game save.

Never finished a few games due to this happening and just not having the time to redo 50-75% of a game that took me weeks to get anywhere.


I loved those games. Which I believe were actually in the SaGa series in Japan, which are amazing.....except for Unlimited Saga, which is just shiat. (I KNOW! We'll make a video game, but it will be more like a pen-and-paper RPG mixed with a board game with no GUI to speak of! And we will never, at any time, explain the rules! People will love it!)
 
2012-09-01 11:18:15 PM  

ModernLuddite: imfallen_angel: I've enjoyed all FF but:

The Originals for the Game Boys (Legends 1-2-3 and Adventure) have been the only ones that I played many times over.

It's one thing to have an involved story, another to have a game that drags for months... until your memory card flakes and you lose your game save.

Never finished a few games due to this happening and just not having the time to redo 50-75% of a game that took me weeks to get anywhere.

I loved those games. Which I believe were actually in the SaGa series in Japan, which are amazing.....except for Unlimited Saga, which is just shiat. (I KNOW! We'll make a video game, but it will be more like a pen-and-paper RPG mixed with a board game with no GUI to speak of! And we will never, at any time, explain the rules! People will love it!)


Wasn't FF:Adventure actually Seiken Densetsu, first of the Mana series?
 
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