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2012-09-01 06:51:57 PM

Mrtraveler01: Amos Quito: Mrtraveler01: FARK ROMNEY!!! He's a robber-baron POS that made his money carving America up and selling it for scrap - and your precious Democrats did NOTHING to enact trade laws that would prevent him and his ilk from doing so.

Tweedle (D), Tweedle (R).

They ALL sold us out.

Time to stretch some rope.

This shtick is so boring. You really need to try something new.


No, America needs something new.

You keep playing the two-party game, and WE keep losing.

Problem is that you can't see beyond the blinders, and can't imagine that there might be some alternative.

We elect Republicans - we get shiat on.

We elect Democrats - we get shiat on.

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 365x324]

When are we going to realize that they're just two mouths talking out of the same head?

Lulz.

So when will we have a viable third party?



Probably never.

The deluded public will keep voting these same assclowns into office until we're reduced to nuclear ash and mental zombies rummaging through the rubble.

Jefferson was right, but it's too late now.
 
2012-09-01 06:55:01 PM

Amos Quito: You've resigned yourself to the idea that you're going to get raped no matter what, so you think your only "hope" is to vote for the guy with the smaller dick.

Is that about right?


If that was literally the situation, it would be the soundest plan of action.
 
2012-09-01 06:55:55 PM

Amos Quito: I told you the other day that I dislike Obama, and that I like Romney even less.


. . .Which is why you jumped into a thread mocking Romney and tried to deflect it by mocking Obama.
 
2012-09-01 07:01:42 PM

Mrtraveler01: Amos Quito: whidbey: Amos Quito: But either way, it doesn't matter. We're farked. We've been being farked by the Dems AND the Repubs for SO long that we're never going to recover as a nation.

Actually, no.

We should be throwing all of our support to the Democratic party,


You've resigned yourself to the idea that you're going to get raped no matter what, so you think your only "hope" is to vote for the guy with the smaller dick.

Is that about right?

Still not hearing anything about a viable third party option.

Why should I take you seriously again?



newsimg.ngfiles.com



Just sit back and enjoy the show.

Seriously.
 
2012-09-01 07:06:46 PM

thamike: Amos Quito: You've resigned yourself to the idea that you're going to get raped no matter what, so you think your only "hope" is to vote for the guy with the smaller dick.

Is that about right?

If that was literally the situation, it would be the soundest plan of action.



You haven't see his strap-on, have you?
 
2012-09-01 07:07:51 PM

Amos Quito: Just sit back and enjoy the show.

Seriously.


Which is probably exactly what the rapist with the mystery dick would say.
 
2012-09-01 07:09:32 PM

Amos Quito: thamike: Amos Quito: You've resigned yourself to the idea that you're going to get raped no matter what, so you think your only "hope" is to vote for the guy with the smaller dick.

Is that about right?

If that was literally the situation, it would be the soundest plan of action.


You haven't see his strap-on, have you?


Sure I have. I'm not the one getting raped here. I voted for that strap-on.
 
2012-09-01 07:10:27 PM

HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: I told you the other day that I dislike Obama, and that I like Romney even less.

. . .Which is why you jumped into a thread mocking Romney and tried to deflect it by mocking Obama.



I don't do sacred cows. Sorry.

America Chef exports: Jobs, cash
 
2012-09-01 07:11:25 PM

Rich Cream: "It's very frustrating insane, very. We go through Katrina and Rita and now we're going through Cindy, Lee and now Isaac."


I'm not usually the guy who says something about not learning a lesson, but, really?


gilgigamesh: He probably didn't understand why she didn't just go to one of her other homes.

Romney or Ben Stein?

"I'm not saying everyone can do it, but everyone can take a couple thousand dollars, and put it in a safe place so that when a disaster strikes and the ATM's don't work, he or she will have enough money to go out and buy food even at gouging prices. Anyone can have a car that he keeps in a high, dry spot, and you're wrong by the way, millions, and tens of millions, have a second home."


In the interest of full disclosure, while in graduate school I did go through Cindy Lee a few times.
 
2012-09-01 07:13:30 PM

Amos Quito: HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: I told you the other day that I dislike Obama, and that I like Romney even less.

. . .Which is why you jumped into a thread mocking Romney and tried to deflect it by mocking Obama.


I don't do sacred cows. Sorry.

America Chef exports: Jobs, cash



Should be Chief.

I don't think even WOMNEY has figured out how to send the restaurant business offshore.


Not that anyone can afford to eat out these days.

McBurgerWendy
 
2012-09-01 07:16:10 PM

shower_in_my_socks: [img41.imageshack.us image 600x325]


what's the deal with paul ryan in suits that are WAAAAAY too big on him??
 
2012-09-01 07:16:16 PM

Amos Quito: HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: I told you the other day that I dislike Obama, and that I like Romney even less.

. . .Which is why you jumped into a thread mocking Romney and tried to deflect it by mocking Obama.


I don't do sacred cows. Sorry.

America Chef exports: Jobs, cash


Sacred? Why make the deflection at all if you dislike Romney even less?
 
2012-09-01 07:16:27 PM

AbbeySomeone: This may have been said already, but he was obviously set up with a 'gotcha' question. He's not from NOLA. How is he supposed to know what those people should do?


He could have said something more personal and compassionate than "Maybe you should call somebody."
 
2012-09-01 07:22:47 PM

HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: I told you the other day that I dislike Obama, and that I like Romney even less.

. . .Which is why you jumped into a thread mocking Romney and tried to deflect it by mocking Obama.


I don't do sacred cows. Sorry.

America Chef exports: Jobs, cash

Sacred? Why make the deflection at all if you dislike Romney even less?



That sentence made my head hurt.

/You owe me a Tylenol
 
2012-09-01 07:26:06 PM
www.myconfinedspace.com
Mitt's next stop.
 
2012-09-01 07:27:17 PM

Mentat: Amos Quito: What a jerk!

Obama would have rolled up his sleeves and built the levy himself.

Obama wouldn't have made an idiotic comment that made the woman feel like trash. Obama has empathy and knows how to relate to people. So did Bill Clinton. Hell, George Bush knew how to relate to people. Romney just doesn't get it. It's not that he doesn't care, it's that he's lived in the bubble of wealth for so long that he can't relate to people who have to live under the rules of the 99%.


Bush would have been really helpful

s12.postimage.org
 
2012-09-01 07:28:20 PM

Butterflew: shower_in_my_socks: [img41.imageshack.us image 600x325]

what's the deal with paul ryan in suits that are WAAAAAY too big on him??


Politics aside, the guy wears a suit worse than anyone I have ever seen. They never fit. And they always hang on his shoulders in a way that makes it look like he's wearing a graduation gown.
 
2012-09-01 07:30:19 PM

Amos Quito: whidbey: Amos Quito: But either way, it doesn't matter. We're farked. We've been being farked by the Dems AND the Repubs for SO long that we're never going to recover as a nation.

Actually, no.

We should be throwing all of our support to the Democratic party,


You've resigned yourself to the idea that you're going to get raped no matter what, so you think your only "hope" is to vote for the guy with the smaller dick.

Is that about right?


That's where you've been completely deluded by the Right Wing Spin Machine. The Democrats have a perfectly viable solution. It is a tried and true, tested solution. The democrats' solution isn't some new-fangled, novel unheard-of-before solution. It's fairly simple. It's called taxation. Been around since the founding fathers. Also the stimulus plan is well known and a proven solution for recessions. Also, having a great social safety net, like social security, is a proven solution as seen in many, many countries and 75 years here in this country. Universal Health Care, as explained by Romney himself, when describing Israel's health care system, is a proven solution. All the proposals that the Democratic party have offered are realistic, do-able, proven solutions to the existing problems.

On the other side, if they actually spell out a proposal in detail, it is patently clear that it would not solve the problem at hand. The other side's "solutions" are mere ideology masked as a solution, pitched as a solution. But it's a failed concept: trickle-down economics? Never occurred. Voucher systems for health care? Name another country trying it. Also, can be mathematically computed to show it won't work. Cut taxes? That's the single greatest contributing factor to the current debt and budget deficit.

The Democrats aren't running on a "Hey, we've got new, innovative ideas to solve the problems!" They're running on, "We know how to fix this: there are hundreds of examples of these following solutions fixing these problems. Let's implement them."

And the GOP is running, "Nah-nah-nah. I can't hear you. I'm not going to do anything you say."
 
2012-09-01 07:32:28 PM

Butterflew: shower_in_my_socks: [img41.imageshack.us image 600x325]

what's the deal with paul ryan in suits that are WAAAAAY too big on him??


He's shilling for P90X and wants to show how much weight and girth he's lost.
 
2012-09-01 07:36:08 PM

Amos Quito: HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: I told you the other day that I dislike Obama, and that I like Romney even less.

. . .Which is why you jumped into a thread mocking Romney and tried to deflect it by mocking Obama.


I don't do sacred cows. Sorry.

America Chef exports: Jobs, cash

Sacred? Why make the deflection at all if you dislike Romney even less?


That sentence made my head hurt.

/You owe me a Tylenol


Sorry about that; sloppy cutting and pasting.
 
2012-09-01 07:44:28 PM
I dunno what's more insane, that this is a thing that actually happened or that there's toolbags ITT defending it. I mean, at least Amos is having the decency to BSABSVR but actually trying to spin this as anything other than a miserable bit of stupidity? Unbelievable. Some people literally have no shame.
 
2012-09-01 08:03:44 PM
His people are working on a solution . . .

bipolarbearnz.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-01 08:07:24 PM

Mrtraveler01: Amos Quito: Mrtraveler01: FARK ROMNEY!!! He's a robber-baron POS that made his money carving America up and selling it for scrap - and your precious Democrats did NOTHING to enact trade laws that would prevent him and his ilk from doing so.

Tweedle (D), Tweedle (R).

They ALL sold us out.

Time to stretch some rope.

This shtick is so boring. You really need to try something new.


No, America needs something new.

You keep playing the two-party game, and WE keep losing.

Problem is that you can't see beyond the blinders, and can't imagine that there might be some alternative.

We elect Republicans - we get shiat on.

We elect Democrats - we get shiat on.

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 365x324]

When are we going to realize that they're just two mouths talking out of the same head?

Lulz.

So when will we have a viable third party?


Our system is set up for two parties. I wish it weren't. I wish our voting system was different, but it's not. Frankly, we will not be able to make any progress until the Republican party is so marginalized that some other party can replace them. They need to go the way of the Whigs.
 
2012-09-01 08:08:02 PM

djkutch: Has anyone figured out why Romney asked this woman to turn to the government for help?


Quite so. Weren't there churches to help her?
 
2012-09-01 08:09:42 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: I dunno what's more insane, that this is a thing that actually happened or that there's toolbags ITT defending it. I mean, at least Amos is having the decency to BSABSVR but actually trying to spin this as anything other than a miserable bit of stupidity? Unbelievable. Some people literally have no shame.


???

I guess you missed the part where I said I'd rather see Obey do another term than the Fingerless Glove.


/Frying pan
//Fire
///Nice to have a "choice"


Don't you think?
 
2012-09-01 08:17:57 PM

Amos Quito: A Dark Evil Omen: I dunno what's more insane, that this is a thing that actually happened or that there's toolbags ITT defending it. I mean, at least Amos is having the decency to BSABSVR but actually trying to spin this as anything other than a miserable bit of stupidity? Unbelievable. Some people literally have no shame.

???

I guess you missed the part where I said I'd rather see Obey do another term than the Fingerless Glove.


/Frying pan
//Fire
///Nice to have a "choice"


Don't you think?


How about you try being intelligent about what you're ranting about instead of the nonsense you keep spouting like Old Faithful?

Do you have any idea for solutions? Anything positive and intelligent to say? For someone who hates Romney, you talk exactly like he does, all biatching and whining and no actual helpful material.
 
2012-09-01 08:24:48 PM

dericwater: Amos Quito: whidbey: Amos Quito: But either way, it doesn't matter. We're farked. We've been being farked by the Dems AND the Repubs for SO long that we're never going to recover as a nation.

Actually, no.

We should be throwing all of our support to the Democratic party,


You've resigned yourself to the idea that you're going to get raped no matter what, so you think your only "hope" is to vote for the guy with the smaller dick.

Is that about right?

That's where you've been completely deluded by the Right Wing Spin Machine. The Democrats have a perfectly viable solution. It is a tried and true, tested solution. The democrats' solution isn't some new-fangled, novel unheard-of-before solution. It's fairly simple. It's called taxation.



Who do you intend to tax? The unemployed and underemployed?

dericwater: Also, having a great social safety net, like social security, is a proven solution as seen in many, many countries and 75 years here in this country.



Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that would make Bernie Madoff drool - and was designed as such. It was a tax sold to us under the guise of a "benefit".

"Trust fund". LOL!


dericwater: Universal Health Care, as explained by Romney himself, when describing Israel's health care system, is a proven solution.



Ponzi scheme part two. I said it was a TAX long before it ever got near the Supreme Court - and that's just what it is.


dericwater: All the proposals that the Democratic party have offered are realistic, do-able, proven solutions to the existing problems.



The crux of the "existing problem" is that our industries have been dismantled, destroyed, chopped up and sold for scrap overseas, while the bits and pieces filter back to us in the form of "cheap" goods that are paid for with debt money. The robber barons got fatter pulling the scheme as their pals on BOTH sides of the aisle patted them on the back, doing NOTHING to protect our ability to compete domestically, internationally, or even to survive as an economy.

Those jobs are GONE, and they're not coming back. What do the wise and intelligent Dems OR Repubs plan to do to fix that?

The US economic machine is destroyed.

Welcome to serfdom, peasant.
 
2012-09-01 08:31:14 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Amos Quito: A Dark Evil Omen: I dunno what's more insane, that this is a thing that actually happened or that there's toolbags ITT defending it. I mean, at least Amos is having the decency to BSABSVR but actually trying to spin this as anything other than a miserable bit of stupidity? Unbelievable. Some people literally have no shame.

???

I guess you missed the part where I said I'd rather see Obey do another term than the Fingerless Glove.


/Frying pan
//Fire
///Nice to have a "choice"


Don't you think?

How about you try being intelligent about what you're ranting about instead of the nonsense you keep spouting like Old Faithful?

Do you have any idea for solutions? Anything positive and intelligent to say?



Yeah. You can start by treating the people who have been consistently working to destroy this nation like the traitorous criminals that they are instead of planting their campaign signs in your yard.

We've been conned. Our mistake was complacency, trusting that these bastards and their masters EVER had our best interests at heart.

Human nature is human nature. This was all very predictable.

We should have listened to Tom.
 
2012-09-01 08:48:31 PM
That was his version of compassion and calm reassurance?

Good Lord.
 
2012-09-01 08:49:16 PM

Amos Quito: Keizer_Ghidorah: Amos Quito: A Dark Evil Omen: I dunno what's more insane, that this is a thing that actually happened or that there's toolbags ITT defending it. I mean, at least Amos is having the decency to BSABSVR but actually trying to spin this as anything other than a miserable bit of stupidity? Unbelievable. Some people literally have no shame.

???

I guess you missed the part where I said I'd rather see Obey do another term than the Fingerless Glove.


/Frying pan
//Fire
///Nice to have a "choice"


Don't you think?

How about you try being intelligent about what you're ranting about instead of the nonsense you keep spouting like Old Faithful?

Do you have any idea for solutions? Anything positive and intelligent to say?


Yeah. You can start by treating the people who have been consistently working to destroy this nation like the traitorous criminals that they are instead of planting their campaign signs in your yard.

We've been conned. Our mistake was complacency, trusting that these bastards and their masters EVER had our best interests at heart.

Human nature is human nature. This was all very predictable.

We should have listened to Tom.


Oh great, nihilism. Because burning it all down has never, ever in the history of the world resulted in large scale death and destruction and the rise of brutal warlords who fark over the average person who survived Tardpocolypse. Nope, never. It is always a happy, joyous orgasm-fest of bunnies and unicorns. I would ask if you realize that the American Revolution was not some complete slate erasing, but the removal of a single layer of government, while retaining the rest (said Founding Fathers not being the great unwashed, but the very people who had been running the colonial governments for decades); I would ask this, but you so obviously have no farking clue, I won't, because watching you stand there pulling your pud in blank ignorance is totally unappealing for all involved
 
2012-09-01 08:53:49 PM

Amos Quito: Keizer_Ghidorah: Amos Quito: A Dark Evil Omen: I dunno what's more insane, that this is a thing that actually happened or that there's toolbags ITT defending it. I mean, at least Amos is having the decency to BSABSVR but actually trying to spin this as anything other than a miserable bit of stupidity? Unbelievable. Some people literally have no shame.

???

I guess you missed the part where I said I'd rather see Obey do another term than the Fingerless Glove.


/Frying pan
//Fire
///Nice to have a "choice"


Don't you think?

How about you try being intelligent about what you're ranting about instead of the nonsense you keep spouting like Old Faithful?

Do you have any idea for solutions? Anything positive and intelligent to say?


Yeah. You can start by treating the people who have been consistently working to destroy this nation like the traitorous criminals that they are instead of planting their campaign signs in your yard.

We've been conned. Our mistake was complacency, trusting that these bastards and their masters EVER had our best interests at heart.

Human nature is human nature. This was all very predictable.

We should have listened to Tom.


I give the Republicans all the blame they deserve for destroying America. I'm wondering why you think I should say the same about the Democrats. They've messed up, yes, but not on the Rep's levels, no matter how much you want to insist "Both sides bad!".

You're like a conspiracy theorist. "You're all sheep and weak! I know all the intricate details about why you should think like me! No, I'm not going to tell you about them, you're too dumb to understand it!". How about actually doing something about it if you feel that strongly, instead of trolling on the internet?
 
2012-09-01 08:56:40 PM

Amos Quito: Keizer_Ghidorah: Amos Quito: A Dark Evil Omen: I dunno what's more insane, that this is a thing that actually happened or that there's toolbags ITT defending it. I mean, at least Amos is having the decency to BSABSVR but actually trying to spin this as anything other than a miserable bit of stupidity? Unbelievable. Some people literally have no shame.

???

I guess you missed the part where I said I'd rather see Obey do another term than the Fingerless Glove.


/Frying pan
//Fire
///Nice to have a "choice"


Don't you think?

How about you try being intelligent about what you're ranting about instead of the nonsense you keep spouting like Old Faithful?

Do you have any idea for solutions? Anything positive and intelligent to say?


Yeah. You can start by treating the people who have been consistently working to destroy this nation like the traitorous criminals that they are instead of planting their campaign signs in your yard.

We've been conned. Our mistake was complacency, trusting that these bastards and their masters EVER had our best interests at heart.

Human nature is human nature. This was all very predictable.

We should have listened to Tom.


Hey, I'm with you. Bring down the government, bring down capitalism, build a new system base don public trust and horizontal organization and not based on private profits.

Oh, wait... You actually just want the right wing to run roughshod over the government for a few years because you've been solid a moronic bill of goods by the TV machine and think that our problems are all because of the socialisms and giving undesirables the right to vote, don't you?
 
2012-09-01 08:57:02 PM

phalamir: Oh great, nihilism.


There's nothing to be afraid of.
 
2012-09-01 09:09:35 PM

AbbeySomeone: This may have been said already, but he was obviously set up with a 'gotcha' question. He's not from NOLA. How is he supposed to know what those people should do?


From TFA:

"...Romney had been in touch several days ago to ask how he could help with storm relief..."

Therefore one supposes that if he could in fact offer no actual help, considering as you say he has no knowledge of the area, and no executive authority of any kind, the best thing he could have done is stay the hell away from a disaster area.

/'Ninth ward, eh? Heh heh, sounds fancy...really sprang for the big bucks, eh? There's your problem, you should have bought in the Garden District...ground, high, dry. My buddy who owns the Saints, Who dat, right? He lives there, and says the private schools are great. That's the type do solution you can expect from a President Romney!'
 
2012-09-01 09:11:13 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: So? 211 is a legitimate number for Essential Community Services in many states.

I suppose this is newsworthy in that it's one of the few times where Romney hasn't failed when appearing in public.


No, it WAS an essential community services number. Under the Romney administration's new "running the country like a business" philosophy, 211 is being reconfigured as the VIP Executive Government Services line. It'll be sort of like the Amex Centurion hotline for anything you may need from your government. Need to yell at your Senator. Just call. Need to stop an audit. Just call. It costs $100,000 annually, but those with a $100 million or above net worth will have their annual membership fee waived.

911 will continue to exist as a benefit for everyone, of course. It will, however, be outsourced to India, and a 'slight' charge of $1.99/minute will apply to all calls received after normal business hours. Additionally, rather than immediately sending police, ambulance services, or the fire department to assist you, you will need to go through a 150-level ''self-help" menu so that they can better understand the nature of your emergency. You will, of course, need to give all the same information again to Akmed, er, "Mike", when you finally do get through. Then Mike will walk you through 30 more steps of things you need to do (Have you tried putting the fire out yourself? Do you have any water?) before your call can be escalated to Tier 2 support. But have no fear, with 2-3 hours they can make a record of your call (please take down your case number in the event you need to follow-up) and send the help you need -- possibly not to you, of course, since Google Maps is really confusing when you're half a world away, but somewhere, none-the-less.
 
2012-09-01 09:11:40 PM

HighOnCraic: phalamir: Oh great, nihilism.

There's nothing to be afraid of.


I see what you did there.
 
2012-09-01 09:17:47 PM
i.huffpost.com

Louisiana. Wet. Bad.
 
2012-09-01 09:19:53 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7302110/79097054#c79097054" target="_blank">cchris_39</a>:</b> <i>What would have been the correct response?</i>

"Hey Bobby, listen we're just stealing focus here, so thanks for the invitation but we're going to get out of the way. Ma'am, John here from my staff is going to spend the next hour getting you some assistance before we leave. John, make sure this lady has a hot meal and a place to sleep. Bill me personally for any expenses. Good luck ma'am, we'll be thinking about you."

That took me as long to think of as it took to type it. I'm not running for high political office.
 
2012-09-01 09:20:07 PM
FTFA: On the visit from the pair of Republicans, Chiarello said, "He's good. He'll do the best for us. He has our best interests at heart. I thought he'd be more like a politician, but it was more understanding and caring."

After reading that article, it makes little sense that he would have said that had he known her house was lost, but the article makes it look like she told him that she lost her house and then he responded with the 211 line. There's a lot missing here in this article.
 
2012-09-01 09:22:57 PM

phalamir: Amos Quito: Keizer_Ghidorah: Amos Quito: A Dark Evil Omen: I dunno what's more insane, that this is a thing that actually happened or that there's toolbags ITT defending it. I mean, at least Amos is having the decency to BSABSVR but actually trying to spin this as anything other than a miserable bit of stupidity? Unbelievable. Some people literally have no shame.

???

I guess you missed the part where I said I'd rather see Obey do another term than the Fingerless Glove.


/Frying pan
//Fire
///Nice to have a "choice"


Don't you think?

How about you try being intelligent about what you're ranting about instead of the nonsense you keep spouting like Old Faithful?

Do you have any idea for solutions? Anything positive and intelligent to say?


Yeah. You can start by treating the people who have been consistently working to destroy this nation like the traitorous criminals that they are instead of planting their campaign signs in your yard.

We've been conned. Our mistake was complacency, trusting that these bastards and their masters EVER had our best interests at heart.

Human nature is human nature. This was all very predictable.

We should have listened to Tom.

Oh great, nihilism. Because burning it all down has never, ever in the history of the world resulted in large scale death and destruction and the rise of brutal warlords who fark over the average person who survived Tardpocolypse. Nope, never. It is always a happy, joyous orgasm-fest of bunnies and unicorns.



You don't like the idea of "burning it all down"? Neither do I, but I'm afraid we're both in for a disappointment, bubs.

The "single layer of government" that the FF's removed was the centralized authoritarian element that ALWAYS leads to tyranny. They then went about crafting a constitution that (they hoped) would divide the bulk of the powers among the several states and the PEOPLE, intentionally leaving the Federal government with a very small number of (what they believed were) carefully defined powers.

Over the past century, and especially over the past 70 years or so, we have witnessed a relentless power-grab by Washington, as the States and the people naively surrendered their rights in exchange for empty promises and handouts.

We made the mistake of believing that we lived under a benevolent central government, and trusted them to do the "right thing" as they sidestepped, ignored and overran the Constitution that was set up specifically to prevent the concentration of power in the hands of a few - and those hands belong NOT to those we elect, but to those who hold their leashes and fill their feeding troughs.

Jefferson indeed had the right idea, but a stitch in time saves nine - and at this point we're threadbare. There's nothing left to salvage.

Both the Dems and the Repubs are nothing more than lying mouthpieces for elitists who have no loyalty to any ideal other than the lust for power.

Yeah, you don't like the idea of "burning it all down", and neither do I, but spontaneous combustion seems inevitable.

Just wait until this Greenspan-Bernancke bubble pops and people start getting hungry.
 
2012-09-01 09:25:43 PM

Amos Quito: Over the past century, and especially over the past 70 years or so, we have witnessed a relentless power-grab by Washington, as the States and the people naively surrendered their rights in exchange for empty promises and handouts.


A lot of that was a response to tyranny at the state level, but I guess that was okay. . .
 
2012-09-01 09:26:44 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Hey, I'm with you. Bring down the government, bring down capitalism, build a new system base don public trust and horizontal organization and not based on private profits.

Oh, wait... You actually just want the right wing to run roughshod over the government for a few years because you've been solid a moronic bill of goods by the TV machine and think that our problems are all because of the socialisms and giving undesirables the right to vote, don't you?



No.
 
2012-09-01 09:27:26 PM

HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: Over the past century, and especially over the past 70 years or so, we have witnessed a relentless power-grab by Washington, as the States and the people naively surrendered their rights in exchange for empty promises and handouts.

A lot of that was a response to tyranny at the state level, but I guess that was okay. . .


State-level tyranny is okay. Massive concentrations of power and wealth in the hands of corporations and a wealthy aristocracy is okay. He's fine with tyranny. It's just the federal government that's bad, because... I dunno, he doesn't like the way the word "federal" sounds?
 
2012-09-01 09:38:33 PM

HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: Over the past century, and especially over the past 70 years or so, we have witnessed a relentless power-grab by Washington, as the States and the people naively surrendered their rights in exchange for empty promises and handouts.

A lot of that was a response to tyranny at the state level, but I guess that was okay. . .



Do you really think that was okay? Because I don't.

But the Constitution prescribed methods and process by which changes were to be enacted, and we largely followed these prescriptions when we did important things like ending slavery, granting women's suffrage, enacting (and then repealing) prohibition, etc.

But at some point the Feds (including the Supremes) got the idea that they didn't need no stinking process, and they just started doing whatever the hell they pleased.

That was the time for the people to act - but they didn't. Now we're farked.

What? You like your little pet program that the feds unconstitutionally put in place? You think it's a "good thing"?

If it's worth having it SHOULD be worth going through the prescribed, legal processes to enact.

Don't you think?
 
2012-09-01 09:41:59 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: Over the past century, and especially over the past 70 years or so, we have witnessed a relentless power-grab by Washington, as the States and the people naively surrendered their rights in exchange for empty promises and handouts.

A lot of that was a response to tyranny at the state level, but I guess that was okay. . .

State-level tyranny is okay. Massive concentrations of power and wealth in the hands of corporations and a wealthy aristocracy is okay. He's fine with tyranny. It's just the federal government that's bad, because... I dunno, he doesn't like the way the word "federal" sounds?



Now where did I say anything like that?

Funny, I didn't have you pegged as a dishonest, lying, ass-biting POS A Dark Evil Omen.

Have I been underestimating you?
 
2012-09-01 09:43:25 PM

Amos Quito: HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: Over the past century, and especially over the past 70 years or so, we have witnessed a relentless power-grab by Washington, as the States and the people naively surrendered their rights in exchange for empty promises and handouts.

A lot of that was a response to tyranny at the state level, but I guess that was okay. . .


Do you really think that was okay? Because I don't.

But the Constitution prescribed methods and process by which changes were to be enacted, and we largely followed these prescriptions when we did important things like ending slavery, granting women's suffrage, enacting (and then repealing) prohibition, etc.

But at some point the Feds (including the Supremes) got the idea that they didn't need no stinking process, and they just started doing whatever the hell they pleased.

That was the time for the people to act - but they didn't. Now we're farked.

What? You like your little pet program that the feds unconstitutionally put in place? You think it's a "good thing"?

If it's worth having it SHOULD be worth going through the prescribed, legal processes to enact.

Don't you think?


Yeah, look, we had this dance in another thread over how to solve the civil rights problem in the South. Let's just agree to disagree, okay?
 
2012-09-01 09:46:22 PM

Amos Quito: State-level tyranny is okay. Massive concentrations of power and wealth in the hands of corporations and a wealthy aristocracy is okay. He's fine with tyranny. It's just the federal government that's bad, because... I dunno, he doesn't like the way the word "federal" sounds?


Now where did I say anything like that?


I think it was the thread where you described segregationists as rape victims because the Federal government mercilessly ended Jim Crow laws against their will.
 
2012-09-01 09:48:25 PM

Amos Quito: Mrtraveler01: FARK ROMNEY!!! He's a robber-baron POS that made his money carving America up and selling it for scrap - and your precious Democrats did NOTHING to enact trade laws that would prevent him and his ilk from doing so.

Tweedle (D), Tweedle (R).

They ALL sold us out.

Time to stretch some rope.

This shtick is so boring. You really need to try something new.


No, America needs something new.

You keep playing the two-party game, and WE keep losing.

Problem is that you can't see beyond the blinders, and can't imagine that there might be some alternative.

We elect Republicans - we get shiat on.

We elect Democrats - we get shiat on.

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When are we going to realize that they're just two mouths talking out of the same head?

Lulz.


Dont you just hate being correct, yet no one listens?
 
2012-09-01 09:54:11 PM

HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: State-level tyranny is okay. Massive concentrations of power and wealth in the hands of corporations and a wealthy aristocracy is okay. He's fine with tyranny. It's just the federal government that's bad, because... I dunno, he doesn't like the way the word "federal" sounds?


Now where did I say anything like that?

I think it was the thread where you described segregationists as rape victims because the Federal government mercilessly ended Jim Crow laws against their will.



So you don't think Civil Rights were an important enough issue to take the time and trouble to enact legally and properly?

And now Obama signs legislation that suspends habeas corpus and their ain't jack shiat you can do about it.

Precedents. How do they work?
 
2012-09-01 10:03:14 PM

Amos Quito: HighOnCraic: Amos Quito: State-level tyranny is okay. Massive concentrations of power and wealth in the hands of corporations and a wealthy aristocracy is okay. He's fine with tyranny. It's just the federal government that's bad, because... I dunno, he doesn't like the way the word "federal" sounds?


Now where did I say anything like that?

I think it was the thread where you described segregationists as rape victims because the Federal government mercilessly ended Jim Crow laws against their will.


So you don't think Civil Rights were an important enough issue to take the time and trouble to enact legally and properly?

And now Obama signs legislation that suspends habeas corpus and their ain't jack shiat you can do about it.

Precedents. How do they work?


"My friends, to those who say that we are rushing this issue of civil rights, I say to them we are 172 years late."

Link

--Hubert Humphrey at the 1948 Democratic Convention

Tell me again how the civil rights acts were illegally passed. You amuse me.
 
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